The fact that everyone in the Mario movie gave their entire Mariussy to their part.
The fact that the cast fits so naturally into their roles despite not being the original voices of these iconic characters.
The fact that the animation is honestly breathtaking (especially if you're a fiend like me who likes pretty lights and bright colours).
The fact that the music is already setting up to be a banger .
All of this only makes crisp rat's half assed performance more upsetting, the bar is set so high for what this movie is capable of and Chris won't give us a single decent yahoo.
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Sooo I started playing Paper Mario Thousand Year Door... still basically at the beginning. But its so weird that... this is my first og Paper Mario experience, and all I can do is be like 'Oh I know this mechanic from Bug Fables'
And now I kinda wanna go and play Bug Fables xDD
I've played Super Paper Mario and Origami King- and honestly I consider those two games pretty good and fun.
And Bug Fables is GREAT, so I'm super excited to see how TTYD goes, especially with some of the unique battle mechanics.
It's a game that even tho I've been around since its original release on gamecube, I have NEVER watched a lets play, never looked into the details. All I've ever known is that Vivian and Goombella are two of the most popular Paper Mario characters, and that the game is one of the best Mario games, like, ever.
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Been seein some rather cold takes about Daisy lately…
I’ve seen some people say that she has no personality outside of fanon, but that’s just not true. There is a very very common misconception among the fandom (at least that I’ve noticed) that if a character doesn’t appear in a “mainline” game, then they have no personality. But I’d argue that the spinoffs actually offer waaaaay more in terms of looking into character personalities. And no, I’m not talking about the RPGs ala M&L and Paper Mario as those are obviously full of personality (and Daisy isn’t in those). I’m talking about the Party, Kart, Tennis, and other sports games.
Yes, Daisy hasn’t appeared in any mainline game since her debut, but she’s been in nearly every sports game and her traits, stats, abilities, victory/loss animations, and various other tiny details add up to her personality. The fact that she’s nearly always yelling or just speaking really loud in general (noticeably more than any other character), the fact that she constantly feels a need to say her name and make herself known, how she loves flowers and considers even a small patch of flowers worth protecting, how she’s easily bored by tasks that don’t excite her and isn’t so reliable for them. She tends to jump around a lot, and spin and dance around when she’s excited! She’s apparently a rather fast runner and that is considered her specialty! These are all traits that are displayed in the spinoffs, and there’s probably soooo many more that I just can’t remember right now.
Now, I do think her tomboyish nature is probably fanon, as I don’t really remember seeing anything to show that she acts that way in the games. I think people probably think she’s tomboyish due to how loud and energetic she is. But hey, there’s plenty of fanon for just about any character from any fandom out there. And what’s so wrong with that? Isn’t the whole point of making fanworks to expand on the framework already provided by canon? If we want to stick to what’s actually “canon” then nearly everything the fandom has created would have to be tossed, because there really isn’t much to work with. Fanworks and fandoms thrive on what fans can create based on the canon work, not just sticking to it perfectly.
It’s fine if you think the “fanon” Daisy outshines the “canon” Daisy and you dislike that. But to say that she has no personality aside from fanon interpretations just tells me that you have a very narrow idea of what counts as “canon” in an already rather simplistic world. The Mario games are very simple and straightforward without much consistent lore that actually makes sense cohesively, but the characters are what keep everything tied together despite that. The characters are nearly always consistent, and that includes Daisy. Even when the setting is completely different and some random new villain shows up with some random new power source to steal or species to torment, our same well-known lovable characters will be the center of the story and that’s what makes it fun!
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I'll admit that Chris Pratt as Mario was the one part of the trailer that didn't work for me, but everything else really did have quality to it. Jack Black had the perfect balance of threatening Bowser and campy Bowser, the animation was exactly what I'd hope a Mario movie would look like, and it's clear there's a lot of passion in the project, to the point where they even incorporated Mario creatures that aren't as well-known and mainstream. I don't think it deserves being entirely ragged on just thanks to one lackluster part.
I’m afraid I have to disagree! Chris Pratt Mario is easy to rag on because it’s exactly as awful as predicted and ties into an existing awful trend in current animated movies (also Chris Pratt sucks as a person), but I also think it's just ... the most obvious symptom of an issue strewn all throughout the trailer.
It lacks soul. Sure, the character models are up to the industry standard and the color work is very good and there’s nothing immediately artistically offensive about it, but it’s just so lackluster. The characters’ lines and body language are completely to-the-point, have no individuality or spunk, no flavor. There’s no word play, no slang (made up or real), no distinct speech patterns. All the characters’ lines sound like they came directly out of 11 other movies from the last decade. The body language accomplishes getting across some very basic emotions, but again, everyone moves the same, there’s no sauce on there, it’s just “character is scared,” “character is excited,” “character is surprised.” Bowser’s character acting while talking is also very awkward and janky (reminder that Hotel Transylvania, a similarly badly written but EXTREMELY well-animated CGI movie came out TEN YEARS AGO).
On the subject of Bowser, I also think Jack Black was a very poor choice for him. Yeah, he can do the voice rumble, but it has no depth, no reverberation. It’s generic.
It’s not just Chris Pratt Mario that sounds flat and lifeless, even though he is definitely the worst offender - everyone, from Toad to Luigi to the penguin guys at the beginning, all literally just sound like Some Guy.
Which becomes a problem when “tiny cute cartoon animal sounds like a grown human being” was supposed to be a joke at the beginning! The joke doesn’t land when every other character sounds like that and it’s not meant to be funny!
This being another problem. It’s not funny or has an interesting plot teased? They tried to crack some jokes, but they were regurgitating common cartoon gags that were done to death a decade ago. It was some Ice Age 4 style comedy. And with the generic plot threads introduced, the trailer really had nothing going for it except “please come look at our movie, it has some nice special effects!”
As for using lesser-known Mario characters ... I’m sorry to say, but that’s a really common marketing tactic for this era of big franchise movies. A really basic, generic plot front and center so newcomers to the franchise can keep up with the plot, with these little nuggets of “remember this obscure guy or thing?!” for longtime fans to point at and go “oh yes I remember that guy or thing!!” It isn’t evidence of passion, it’s evidence of the creators knowing how nerd fandom operates and taking advantage of people’s sincere affection for their favorite stories.
I love bad movies and I don’t fault anyone for being excited about the Mario movie, but it’s disheartening to see people hyping up these soulless cash grabs just because franchise movie creators have caught onto which levers to pull to make fans swallow their garbage without complaining too much.
It was the same thing with the Sonic movies. They have basically nothing to do with the Sonic franchise, even the main character is completely divorced from the thematic context he was born out of, but tons of people love it just because it’s superficially “heartwarming” and more or less manages to dodge some of the obvious problems of other family films in the same genre.
Again, I’m not saying no one’s allowed to like these movies. But how anyone can look at the Mario trailer or the Sonic movies and call them good adaptions ... is beyond me.
The Mario and Sonic games’ stories aren’t good because there’s a guy named Mario in overalls and a blue hedgehog named Sonic who save the day in each their silly little way, they’re good because of their unique themes and ideas. Mario’s story is appealing because it’s quirky, energized, full of weird places and weird people that are nothing like any big blockbuster movie. Sonic’s story is all about environmentalism and anti-capitalism! Sonic stands for a green future! These traits are the heart and soul of the franchises these movies are trying to adapt, it’s what makes them good, but mainstream movie producers don’t care about any of that. They just put the funny-looking guy on the screen, try not to piss off any parents or long-time fans too much, then wait for money to start rolling in.
Besides, Mario’s only two defining character traits are “Italian” and “plumber,” and I do think it says a lot that even getting those two things right was too much effort for Illumination. The sheer balls it takes to look at a massive franchise like Mario and decide to change 50% of the most recognizable traits of its main character are astounding. Maybe it would be stupid to trash the movie over a single miscast voice ... but when it’s the main character? When said miscasting takes away one of his two character traits? That’s not nitpicking, that’s identifying an underlying problem with the production process, that is, a lack of interest in the very franchise they’re trying to adapt.
Nintendo has more money than god. They should be able to get a hold of an animation studio that can do more than just make pretty special effects and look up obscure characters on a fan wiki.
I don’t want a Mario movie that’s more or less non-offensive, I want a Mario movie that’s good. I want a Mario movie that understands the property it’s adapting. We have got to stop patting big blockbuster movies on the back for doing the bare minimum.
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The Mario movie was really good!! The animation was nice and
BOWSER WAS FUCKING GORGEOUS GOD I LOVE HIM AND SUPPORT EVERYTHING HE DID IDC, Hes my poor Little Meow Meow 😌✨
I dont support the vanilla ass Mario x Peach happening but like SUUUUURE
I dont understand why anyone would choose a hero over a big ass monster villain whos a king but maybe thats just me-
(But Bowser being in love with Peach was vindicating <3)
..Megamind changed my entire idea of relationships and now all I can think about is the villain getting the girl and once again only Megamind has given me what I wanted 😔
BUT BACK TO THE ACTUAL MOVIE-- Donkey Kong was dope, and Im obsesssed with the animation, Peach wasnt..Peaching for me, she looked..generic?? Like her eyes were too big and it was just too disney and not that pretty but cutesy instead?? Idk, but the voice acting was GOOD! (Yes even Chris Pratt did his little thing, surprisingly didnt mind it..but he wasnt like. The main part of the movie to me)
Id see it again
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Is heartache gonna be on here or some where like archive of our own?
Yep!!
Ao3 - https://archiveofourown.org/users/Prince_of_Wyrms/profile
It will definitely be on Ao3 and very likely on here too. And if not I will at the very least provide links to the corresponding site the story is on, each time it updates.
There is also a Heartache dedicated side blog in the works which will act as a sort of chronological archive to this whole thing. I'm hoping that will make me somewhat more comfortable in using this main blog more freely. I'm still not used to simply making posts, honestly. Or reblogging whatever pleases me, by extension.
All of this is still under construction and thus empty for now. Once I get the story up proper that will change of course. In the mean time I'm going to try and be better about posting my process here, on my main blog. Part of me not posting a lot here is that I'm just so bad at just…talking about what I'm up to with this story. It's something I want to get better at.
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there is something so viscerally satisfying about when bass kicks in. like a song already fucks. and then it just gets deeper. it gets more. you feel it in your fucking bones, it fills in the hollow parts in your fucking brain that you may or may not have even felt where there and it's just. runs my hands down my FACE Y'ALL
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Magmato (those tomato fellas from the Luncheon Kingdom) is a very interesting case when it comes to species.
On one hand, it is clearly a tomato, so that would make it a plant, right? But on the other, it is filled with lava, which tempts me to call it an elemental ghost… It doesn’t seem like a plant at all, considering that it appears to just be a tomato skin encasing lava (so no plantlike anatomy whatsoever). How would a plant have even evolved to be completely filled with lava? I might be more inclined to call it a plant if we could see where it comes from, like if there was a vine that grows these lava tomatoes, but we never see anything like that.
Maybe I will call it an elemental ghost that was a tomato when it was alive? Maybe living things in the Luncheon Kingdom are prone to becoming fire elementals after death due to the volcanic environment of the kingdom.
I mean, I guess it could just be a plant, but Idk it just doesn’t make sense to me to classify it amongst the other plants…
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