#MISHA IN THE OPENING CREDITS

[cowardstiel]

dads were really onto something when they popularised talking at the tv. really enhances the viewing experience

[lordstormageddidnt]

You ever think about how in supernatural *ducks to avoid my mutual's broom* its always dean who refers to bobby as their (him and Sam's) father *puts up shield to avoid getting sprayed by water gun* do you think this is because sam sees dean as his father figure so instead bobby is more of sam's grandpa figure or what

[roastedsoup]

FINISHED SPN S3 UMMMM WGAT THE FUCK ACTUALLY

[strawlessandbraless]

[dotthings]

Okay yeah I am really really tired of this. So I'm just going to say outright that what spn did with 15.18, with Cas's confession, that was a whole lot of people at spn showing their love and support. Writers, Jensen and Misha, the director, and anyone else who cared--which was a good number of people who worked at spn. It was the show full on validating fan lens and the deliberate crafted work of writers that had to queer code Destiel for years due to network censorship.

Crew members were in tears watching that Dean and Cas scene get filmed.

No, Cas's love for Dean wasn't last minute added.

No, it didn't come out of nowhere.

It was a 12 season arc payoff.

It was many seasons, who knows how many years, of writers weaving it into the text.

Who even knows when the deliberation to try to push it into text decision was made. I usually think Carver era, but then Ben Edlund said some things and...who knows.

No, spn was not gaslighting and mocking Destiel shippers.

The original plan for the finale at the time 15.18 was filmed had Cas be there for the ending. They made 15.18 in good faith believing they'd be able to follow through on Destiel, as much as they could get away with it.

15.18 was filmed in March 2020 and the pandemic production shutdown hit a few days into filming 15.19. Production shutdown gave some higher ups too much time to think, and too much of an opening and an excuse to strip back 15.20.

Without the network support the most spn could do on Destiel anway was thread the needle to get as much into the text as they could, even if they couldn't make it open. But they tried to make it anyway within those parameters. They deserve credit for that and they didn't know how 15.20 was going to be stripped back when they filmed 15.18.

So tired of seeing malice assigned to the effort of the creatives who did it. Who told that story within a restrictive system.

Cas's confession wasn't even queer coded. That was the moment it switched to loud and blatant. Misha even said he was astonished they were allowed to film it at all. Lack of network support and PR erasure set in afterwards.

No, it wasn't fanservice. It was integral to the plot!!!! The major giant stakes save the world endgame plot!!!!!!!!!!!!

15.18 was respectful.

15.18 was showing the love!!!!

[imaginaryprotagonist]

I never relate to Dean Winchester tearing through Purgatory more than when I'm watching the Supernatural opening credits and there's no Misha Collins. WHAT DO YOU MEAN THIS EPISODE IS CAS-LESS!?!?

[drchucktingle]

queer horror memory lane

i know this screenshot above is just way of some algorithm but seeing these books together i am so honored youve allowed me to open my heart and trot out my art in this unique way. having two well received queer horror books (and third on way) is amazing given where i started my trot. thank you

easy to talk on 'death of unique art' these days but if you look at my story it is powerful example that buckaroos have a taste for challenging or untraditional figures in art. this is NOT to my credit, this is to YOUR credit. YOU have supported queer autistic art. i am so moved

i am already a pretty optimistic bud but still BLOWN AWAY by way my trot has been embraced over time. i recognize my perspective is 'strange' to many but to see the way this unique way was once treated with irony and now sincerity has bloomed in its place. it brings tears of joy

as i trot down my QUEER HORROR memory lane i am going to repost TRAILER for each book just because i have been basking in these memories and recalling the slow embrace of this timeline around me. thank you for allowing me this space i am so humbled and honored. LOVE IS REAL

STRAIGHT

When a strange tear in the cosmos appears within Earth’s annual path, the consequences are disastrous. For one night a year, the vast majority of humans now undergo a frightening mental change, transforming into hateful, rage-fueled zombies who will stop at nothing to satiate their desire for brutality.

While not much is understood about this horrific mass hysteria, the demographic it effects is very specific: cisgender straight people. 

A few years after the first of these tragic events, four friends from across the queer spectrum look for safety in solitude, hunkering down in a remote desert cabin for what is now known as Saturation Day. With a vaccine available for straight people to curb their violent episodes, some predict the worst is over. Others aren’t so sure.

As night falls, it becomes clear that survival isn’t guaranteed this Saturation Day.

GET STRAIGHT HERE

CAMP DAMASCUS

From beloved internet icon Chuck Tingle, Camp Damascus is a searing and earnest horror debut about the demons the queer community faces in America, the price of keeping secrets, and finding the courage to burn it all down. Welcome to Neverton, Montana: home to a God-fearing community with a heart of gold. Nestled high up in the mountains is Camp Damascus, the self-proclaimed “most effective” gay conversion camp in the country. Here, a life free from sin awaits. But the secret behind that success is anything but holy. And they’ll scare you straight to hell.

GET CAMP DAMASCUS HERE

BURY YOUR GAYS

Misha knows that chasing success in Hollywood can be hell.

But finally, after years of trying to make it, his big moment is here: an Oscar nomination. And the executives at the studio for his long-running streaming series know just the thing to kick his career to the next level: kill off the gay characters, "for the algorithm," in the upcoming season finale.

Misha refuses, but he soon realizes that he’s just put a target on his back. And what’s worse, monsters from his horror movie days are stalking him and his friends through the hills above Los Angeles.

Haunted by his past, Misha must risk his entire future―before the horrors from the silver screen find a way to bury him for good.

PREORDER BURY YOUR GAYS HERE

i am blessed by your support, your love, and your kindness. cannot believe how lucky i am to trot with you in all in this way and i cant WAIT to see what the future of this timeline holds for us. thank you for proving love with me from the past to the future

[angel-fruitcake]

i've been rewatching spn with my husband who has never seen it (we're on s9 currently), and here are some thoughts he's given throughout the series:

• pre-season 4- "when does that one guy you love with the trenchcoat show up?"

• Cas is introduced- "wow. that's my boy right there"

• each time Dean and Cas share a long Stare™- *mimics the look but exaggerates the homosexual longing*

• every episode where Misha isn't listed in the opening credits- *eye roll + groan of annoyance*

• anytime Dean and Cas go off to do their own thing- "ok perfect they're alone. now fuck"

• when Dean kicked human Cas out of the bunker- "WTF. fuck you, Dean. how dare you do that to him, he's BABY"

i truly have married my soulmate

[darkshrimpemotions]

Do you ever think back to Lazarus Rising and the first time "Misha Collins" popped up on the screen in the opening credits and how it didn't even REGISTER? Like he was just a name on a screen. "Castiel" was a word in a spell from season 3 that didn't even stick out to you when you heard it. Maybe you were even normal about Supernatural at that point. You had no CLUE what was about to happen to your brain.

[rapidhighway]

i know a lot of cas fans would look at the opening credits to see if misha is in the episode, but i think it would've been funnier if the producers caught on that it was happening and they just wouldn't put his name on the screen UNTIL the moment in the episode where cas shows up. It could be the last minute of the episode and suddenly he's there and "...and misha collins" appears at the bottom of the screen. cause i think it'd be funny

[shedontlovehuhself]

Yeah, it sucks that Bobo and Misha were not given the space to talk about the confession scene in the same way Oliver and the 911 peeps are doing with Buckley right now. Cas' coming out and his "I love you" to Dean should have gotten a bigger celebration than just Misha speaking about it on his own. Hell, Ruthie and other cast members tried to show support online and got shut down by haters and antis. Misha should not have been the only one out there in 2020 and 2021 talking about it. But he was. And yes, prior to 15x18 he went from safely playfully supporting Destiel to full on doing so right after the confession scene. Even without backup from his costar. Just like he was the only one to actively advocate for HIS character's canon queerness. Where was EW for Misha back in 2020? They definitely spoke to Jensen about it. And no, chaos machine had nothing to do with Misha talking about queer Castiel. The way certain Jensen fans try to give credit where it isn't earned and using Misha to do so should be studied.

And I'll add that yes, Jensen has grown over the years. He's more accepting of fans canon of bi Dean and has always happily signed and praised destiel fan art. He's proud of what Misha did with Cas and has said that Dean and Cas should have a conversation about what happened. But he still hasn't said the words Cas is queer. He still can't say destiel. He also has said in so many ways he doesn't see Dean as queer and even has stated Cas' confession can be open for interpretation. So while I'm proud of his obvious growth, y'all not bout to give him credit for what Misha was out here doing on his own.

I remember when everyone was saying Jensen has no power at CE cons. So now that the narrative calls for it, y'all are now saying he has power at CE. Suggesting that he made changes with said power that coincides with Misha talking more openly about queer at CE is truly a reach.

- Momento con in 2021(non CE con) where Misha happily talked about queer castiel and cas and Dean wanting to bang each other.

- German con in 2021 when Misha again talked about queer Castiel, Destiel, and had a positive reaction to a fan's "Dean is bi" t-shirt that had the audience cheering, meanwhile Jensen stans were crying on twitter that Jensen should be doing more euro cons (this was during Jensen's silent era, mind you).

- Misha's cameos where he had destiel trending and also talked about queer Castiel. He also talked about when Cas fell in love with Dean. Also the Cameo where he jokingly said "Cas, you can do better" about being in love with Dean.

- his virtual interviews in late 2020. And his pride posts each June. his interview when at a French con where he talked about Cas being a queer icon(y'all got mad at him for that one, too).

[angevvine]

RTC Incorrect Quotes

noel: I have one foot in the grave but in a kind of fun flirty way, the way one might slip on a fishnet stocking.

ocean: Hey, misha, do you have feelings for me?

misha: Yeah, anger.

noel: Be kind. Everyone is fighting their own battles.

misha: Why would I be kind? I will be brutal and relentless and ride into battle by their side!

constance : I love murder mysteries!

jane, trying to impress them: I've been a suspect in four murder cases.

ocean: I left instructions for everyone while I'm gone.

misha: Mine just says "misha no."

ocean: I want you to apply it to every possible situation.

ocean: I don’t even have time to tell you how wrong you are.

ocean: …

ocean: …

ocean: Actually it’s gonna bug me if I don’t, so—

noel: This is a bad idea.

misha: Then why are you coming along?

noel: Someone has to get your injured ass home.

noel: “ I want to grow up and be like noel!” That is called Acquiring Depression.

ocean: I feel like I have died and gone to heaven.

noel: I have that dream, too, but you go in the other direction.

constance: Are you the big spoon or the little spoon?

noel: I'm a knife.

misha, from across the room: He’s the little spoon!

ocean: I got grounded for a whole week just because I came home late.

noel: Well, you deserved it. I mean, getting everyone's hopes up like that and then showing up again.

ocean: So, constance , do you have a crush on anyone?

constance : The only crush I have is this crushing anxiety.

misha: I lost ocean.

constance : How did you LOSE ocean?!

misha: To be fair, they are very small.

misha: I wasn’t that drunk.

noel : You colored my face with a highlighter because you said I was important.

misha: BECAUSE YOU ARE!

constance: Unpopular opinion, not all dogs are good boys.

ricky: Blocked.

constance: Sometimes, they’re good girls!

ricky: UNBLOCKED!

constance : My stomach growled super loud in French.

constance : I would like to clarify, my stomach did not speak in French. It growled during French class.

noel: Bonjour.

ricky: Le growl.

misha: Hon hon hon, feed me a baguette.

constance, setting down a card: Ace of spades.

misha, pulling out an Uno card: +4.

ricky, pulling out a Pokémon card: Jolteon, I choose you!

ocean, trembling: What are we playing?!

ocean: What do you do when someone offers you drugs?

noel: Take them!

penny: Punch them in the neck!

constance: Say thank you!

misha: Offer them more drugs to assert dominance!

ocean: …

ocean: No.

misha: Get in loser, we're going shopping.

noel: This is a Tacobell drive thru.

noel: We need to open this locked door. ocean, give me your credit card.

ocean: Here.

noel, pocketing it: Thanks. misha, break down the door.

ricky: penny and I are no longer dating.

penny: ricky, that’s a horrible way of telling people we’re married.

constance : How do you want your coffee?

noel: Black, like my soul.

constance :

constance : noel, your soul is a latte.

noel: All in all, a 100% successful trip.

constance: But we lost ocean.

noel: All in all, a 100% successful trip!

misha: Bro-

noel: No, no, hold up, rewind.

noel: My tongue was down in your throat just a second ago and now you're calling me bro??

ocean: Might I make a suggestion you possibly won’t like?

noel: Do you make any other kind?

ocean: We’ll find another route, it’s not safe for amateur adventurers.

misha: That sounds like a challenge.

ocean: I have to stress, that is not a challenge.

misha: ...Is exactly what you say to dissuade the weak of heart from accepting the challenge. Well, challenge accepted!

ocean: There is no challenge!

ocean: We have fun, don’t we, constance ?

constance : I have never been more stressed out in my entire life.

noel: I'm trash.

ricky: As someone who's environmentally conscious, it's my duty to pick you up. Does 7 work for you?

noel:

noel: You smooth motherfucker.

noel: And yes it does.

misha: I’m really glad “fight me” has replaced “sue me” as the common saying because I don’t have money, but I do have fists and I am always angry.

constance : I'm trying to juggle family life and work life but I can't seem to find a balance. What do you suggest I do to keep everyone happy?

jane, deadpan: Quit your job, kill your family.

noel: If I say I love you, will you say it back?

misha: Yes.

noel: I love you.

misha: It back.

*Later*

ocean: Why is noel crying face-down on the floor?

constance : To be honest, I'm kinda pissed that I'm not asleep in bed next to the love of my life in a cottage with no obligations other than watering my vegetable garden.

Hairdresser: How would you like your hair cut?

ricky: Preferably with scissors, but a sword could be badass.

[ziigee]

Happiness is seeing Misha Collins in the opening credits even if he is there for 2 scenes.

I mean look at him. 💙

Makes the show so much more palatable.

And then we have moments like these

No other show or ships can fill the void like they do.

If it wasn't for this platform, i would have found a crossroad and kissed a demon by now.

How are you guys coping?

Are you in constant fever dream too?

I close my eyes and i see them. Sometimes Jenmish and other times Destiel.

What sorcery is this? How can 2 confused men have that effect on soooo many people? And the real life shenanigans that i keep seeing everwhere. WTF? How is anyone productive or functioning? I have become a drooling mess after coming down this rabbit hole after few years break.

I have never been a fan of a show or people or characters. I mean, yeah, some have been memorable, fondness there or some relatable characters but these guys. C'mon.

Holyfuck

[crackers4jenn]

Jeremy Carver didn't get the respect he deserves in that pollsnatural writers poll. I need to remind y'all who was doing a lot of the heavy lifting when it came to early destiel. Jeremy Carver wrote (or, was credited as the writer) for the following:

3x11 "Mystery Spot" - not a destiel ep, just a banger 👍

4x03 "In the Beginning" - aka the first hint of Cas being sympathetic to Dean. 3 episodes into Cas's existence Jeremy Carver was asking the big questions, like what would it look like if Dean and Cas stared all soulfully into one another's eyes??? I MEAN,

4x20 "The Rapture" - the Jimmy Novak episode. Gave us Dean's tranquil fishing dream, Cas's note-passing interruption. Gave us all the conflict of Dean witnessing Jimmy Novak in place of Cas. Gave us that mic drop "I learned my lesson while I was away, Dean. I serve Heaven, I don't serve man. And I certainly don't serve you" hell of a walk-off line.

5x03 "Free to Be You and Me" - do I even need to expand on this one??? "I need your help because you are the ONLY one who will help me," Thelma and Louise quote, Bert and Ernie quote, "you are not gonna die a virgin," the Raphael confrontation, etc etc Dean tells Cas it's the happiest he's been in years!!!

5x08 "Changing Channels" - another classic episode that's great even without the undercurrent of destiel. But undercurrent there is. One of the recurring themes of the episode is Dean being worried about what Gabriel's doing to Cas. Plus, helloooo, "pretty boy angel" Jeremy Carver's horniness for Misha CAME THROUGH.

5x18 "Point of No Return" - do you all not remember "last person who looked at me like that, I got laid" do you all not remember "I gave EVERYTHING for you, and this is what you give to me????" do you all not remember "what the hell happened to him? / "me"???? And a sidenote: do you all not remember Cas carving a banishing sigil into HIS OWN CHEST?????? Again I say, Jeremy Carver's crush on Misha CAME THROUGH.

8x01 "We Need To Talk About Kevin" - I'm pretty sure at this point JC became showrunner, so there was a ~shift in the blatancy of destiel in his writing, but still. This ep is the start of the Purgatory flashbacks, the first peek at Dean's guilt over Cas not making it out with him.

8x23 "Sacrifice" - the 'ET goes home" bar scene, the dozens and dozens of pages worth of meta about cupid and the arrows and the two dudes falling in love in front of Dean and Cas.

9x01 "I Think I'm Gonna Like It Here" - Dean's "please, man, I need you here" prayer to Cas, which miiiight be the first time he prays to Cas seriously. Their v. soft phone call sometime after where Dean is just as worried for Cas as Cas is for him. Plus, hey-o, would it be a Carver episode without objectifying Misha in some way? This is the ep with the infamous laundry scene, of Cas shucking off his clothes in a very poignant loss-of-identity horny way.

9x23 "Do You Believe in Miracles?" - uh, ever heard of "to save Dean Winchester. That was your goal, right? I mean, you draped yourself in the flag of heaven but ultimately it was all about saving one man" which is pretty much a Castiel thesis statement dropped casually as dialogue.

10x01 "Black" - okay, picture this, Cas is depressed and lying wantonly atop a bed, clad only in a robe that's open juuuust wide enough his chest peeks through. To Sam, he wistfully admits "I miss him" as they tiptoe around the subject of Dean. Fanfic, you say? No, Jeremy Carver.

10x23 "Brother's Keeper" - there's a deleted scene of Cas showing up in Dean's dream, bloody and beat up, introduced by the bartender as Dean's "admirer." Not to mention! Winchester Derangement Syndrome. Not to further mention!! Shattered at the altar of Winchester.

11x01 "Out of the Darkness, Into the Fire" - gonna let this gif speak for itself:

[dotthings]

Some spn Cas history (because yay facts!! Facts are fun!!)

Misha was a guest star in S4. Castiel was originally planned to be a 3 episode and done character, but Misha was so electrifying as Cas, had great chemistry with Jensen, and Cas turned out to be such a compelling character, the show kept him around.

Misha was promoted to regular in S5 and continued in S6.

He was dropped from the show for S7 because Gamble and Singer decided to write out Cas. The network did a lot of fans a solid for once, called up the EP's, and went "hahahaha you aren't really planning to get rid of that fan favorite pretty angel are you???? hahaha ok no really bring him back" and literally refused to let spn get rid of him.

There was for sure a listlessness factor in S7 once Cas was removed. J2 were the anchors in the early seasons. In later seasons, J2M really became the show's center supports, more than just J2. (No, this is not arguable. This is reflected in canon story, and Cas's growth as a character and plot role and emotional role and in promotion for many years. No, I don't care who is offended that I said it. It's not a point of argument).

Jeremy Carver took over as showrunner in S8 and brought Misha in for an 8 episode arc, so Misha was a guest star in S8. Carver wanted to rebuild the character and in S9 Misha was promoted back up to series regular, and he stayed at that status the rest of the series.

Originally, Misha's regular status was denoted by having him third in opening credits after Jared and Jensen, before the "guest starring" section. Eventually Misha was given an "and" credit.

The "and" credit is a contract status thing. It's for series regulars of particular note, usually for a particularly noteworthy performance. Tony Head was "and" status on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. When he stepped back to recurring, Alyson Hannigan became the "and" status.

Some have tried to paint Misha's "and" designator as a sign of his lesser importance, but it's the opposite. It's a promotion and a sign of respect.

A further note, zero fans have attempted to supplant Jared and Jensen as the "top leads" of the show, but it's abundantly fair to label Misha a 3rd lead, given the proportion of Cas's plot and emotion impact on story and Misha's longevity and status. It's semantics, really. If someone gets offended if you say he's a 3rd lead, they're aren't worth your time. Eh, okay, "main character" isn't wrong either, but I'm suspicious of people who break out in hives over calling him "3rd lead"--but main character is a descriptor for Cas's role. SPN at times had 3-4 series regulars, with J2 as the only two constants the entire run of the show, which is why we say J2 are the 2 top leads. But Cas and Misha's importance are also facts.

Misha was "guest star" in S4, 7, and 8. Eventually he got "special guest star" credit during his guest starring era on spn, another indicator of an actor/performance/character of note, but not a series regular. He was a series regular for S5, 6, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15. (No this is not arguable. These are production facts. Some people still, after all this time, try to erase his regular/main character status on spn, and they aren't working in facts).