#NO DISCOURSE PLEASE!!

[em0puppy]

headcanonssssssssssssssssssssss

[owlpero]

free will is all about headcanoning your faves as autistic

[idolomantises]

man i dont want to get all "fandom elder" on people because i think its cringe when people talk about the "good old days" of shipping culture and then ignore the rampant misogyny, queerphobia and racism in those communities but i gotta say: why are people so weird about shipping now?

Like there's really bizarre things i keep seeing younger/newer people in fandoms get upset over. like the obsession with only shipping canon couples. getting upset over crackships. viewing two characters as siblings (who arent considered siblings in the narrative) and getting mad when people ship them. If you get a relationship slightly off people will right a massive thesis statement about it flat out harass you over it. people have to put "not a ship" under platonic art because shippers will blow a fuse if they read it as slightly romantic. pick me queer people getting pissed off when people ship two characters of the same gender and accusing them of "not appreciating platonic relationships" (which by the way, funny to me that this is only thrown at m/m ships and never f/f ships).

Like shipping culture is supposed to be fun, what are we doing here.

[sugarloom]

How it feels being proship while antis argue over whether or not shipping found family with each other is problematic:

[badantitakes]

antis: our community actually cares about victims

Anti community when they see a victim who copes in a different way:

Yet these people still want to call themselves normal? Sure.... sure....

[andthelaw]

Normalize not liking things for no reason or for stupid reasons.

Normalize disliking things others like and still treating them (the person and the thing in question) with respect.

Normalize not having an opinion on things.

Normalize not knowing things and asking others about them.

Normalize doing research.

Normalize disagreeing with your friends' tastes.

Normalize having mixed feelings about things.

Normalize being proud and loud about things you're into.

Normalize trying to emphasize with those you have opposing views with.

If something doesn't HURT anyone

It's okay.

We're only human!

We are not perfect and nobody should expect us to be.

Allow yourself to be you and let others be themselves.

[purpleblanketz]

It's important to recognize that proshippers can be predators. An adult sending art of an age gap ship to a minor in order to groom them into a relationship is not unheard of. It is a very real grooming tactic online. Of course, enjoying darkships doesn't instantly mean someone is a predator- but implying that darkship art can't ever be used as a grooming tactic isn't helpful. Predators are in every online space, and it's important to recognize and watch out for the signs. Proshippers are not predators, but some predators are proship.

[supertaliart]

It’s loving mom!Shaak-ti hours.

[el-sandwich-de-geto]

i miss when people could just dislike things without somehow making it a sociopolitical statement.

it's never "i just don't like that show/comic/movie/manga/anime, i think it sucks".

now it's gotta have some deep reason tied to your personal lore or identity or wtv the fuck. essay youtubers are the worst at this.

at this point i just don't bother to read/watch any critiques of anything anymore, i hate having to click out of a vid midway, wasting 15 minutes of my time because you bring out some bullshit looney excuse like "that anime is misogynistic because the protag has her titties out" or wtv.

just say you don't like titties and move on, man, it's not the activism you think it is.

[proxythe]

sorry im really obsessed with this pair … 🧚 u guys must understand… i have a rare pair addiction …

[badantitakes]

Anti admits to wanting to write actual CSAM.

We know what you are....

[poppytommy]

proship on an adult website : ok TRIGGER WARNING!!!! INCEST PEDOPHILIA TOXIC!!! THIS IS NEVER OKAY IN REAL LIFE!!!! NO MATTER WHAT!!! DO NOT PARTAKE IN THOS!!! THIS IS BAD!!! IF UR UNDERAGE FUCK OFF THIS ISNT FOR YOU!!!! STAY SAFE!!!!! AGAIN THIS IS A FETISH DO NOT LOOK AT THIS IF YOU ARE UNDERAGE!!!

anti on youtube shorts and tiktok who had a primarily child audience : guys look at this artist theyre a proshipper!!!! fixing proshipper art!!! *shows barely censored porn*

[acorntrees]

i think someone has to say it that it's odd to make age regression headcanons about real people. celebrities are real people. you would not make headcanons about john down the street

[bitchslapblastoids]

you know what? it all started here didn’t it?

Their reactions are so completely unhinged unless you view them in context and recognize their completely valid and real instanteous hysterical shock of realizing that while live and thus irreversibly, phil just undid the straightjacket of his fandom’s decade+ theories.

I think probably part of them may have liked how off base the majority of the speculation had always been (even though dan had been screaming verse at the top of his lungs for years), but then this moment comes along and they have absolutely no chill. the loudest (literally and figuratively) reactions of all time.

And thus the first domino is cast into motion. it’s all over. Phil has self-canonized as bottom. Dan has confirmed through his deeply not-normal scream laugh. Nothing matters anymore. What has been done cannot be undone. No fucks are left to give. Fog meat tad tea era begins.

[idiotsonlyevent]

it is completely understandable to be uncomfortable with the sexual assault in dandadan. it's important to discuss how it's framed, whether it's handled poorly, or if it could be been portrayed better. but the number of people - even fans - stating that it is only fanservice, irrelevant, or could be removed is frankly bizarre to for SO many reasons, starting with the fact that this parallel exists.

the anime made it even more obvious by interpolating cuts from the first scene into the second one.

i thought this scene showed that momo gaining her powers by believing in her relationship with her grandmother gives her the strength to fight back against what is basically a horrific, much more aggressive and abstract (maybe even absurd?) representation of her shitty gross ex - who was demanding she 'put out' and pay for the love hotel in very first scene.

while the escalation from one scene to the next is surprising, it's not something that comes out of nowhere. this first scene is meant to be a set-up to what will happen later. it sets the tone, though significantly more lighthearted at this point. it tells you that sex, sexuality, etc. is something dandadan will touch on - though you don't know what the scope and depth will be until later in the chapter.

i cannot recommend this video enough, as it discusses some interesting interpretations of what the serpoians and turbo granny represent in their respective assault scenes, as well as how right now the treatment of both scenes is unfortunately uneven.

more notes about plot and thematic relevance below the cut. spoilers for anime-onlies (up to chapter 8, will probably be covered in episodes 4/5).

momo was assaulted, and almost cut up by the serpoians, much like the other victims turbo granny appeared around. this is an intentional parallel. turbo granny goes to momo because that is what she does. again, SUPER unclear how that factors into turbo granny's assault of ken, but if we keep the video's interpretation of cynicism in mind, it could be related to that; maybe turbo granny has a cynicism toward men - similar to momo in chapter/episode 1 - and this is why she chose to attack ken. unfortunately, it's still too early to really understand and explain a lot of her motivations.

again, completely understandable to not like how the sexual assault was handled or portrayed, and it's important to keep discussing it. but this is what dandadan does for many different types of trauma and difficult life experiences. this is a huge part of dandadan's identity. if you don't like it, that is fine, but calling the sexual assault 'just fan service' is blatantly untrue.

[internally-weird]

some anti on tiktok: hey guys just so you know 🌺💞 is a proshit combo for mom x daughter, 🐺🍡 means adult x child and 🦷🧠 is cannibalism kink!!

other antis in the comments: omg thank you!! now i know who to block

proshippers who have never seen those combos in their lives: what