#Rob Fishlegs

[garussy]

Tuffnut: I heard of people letting kids do stupid stuff to learn a lesson.

Ruffnut: I think someone we knew once let a kid burn their hand on the stove to learn a lesson!

Fishlegs: that was you two..

Tuffnut: OH YEAH!

Tuffnut: did Gustav ever recover from that?

Gustav, somewhere in the back: no!

Ruffnut: good.

[000marie198]

The fact that the Httyd gang knows about the effect of dragon nip but they are never seen using it on any dragons throughout the franchise unless it's like a last resort or an emergency to stop extremely out of control, hostile dragons. They know that grass is like a drug for the dragons so they never use it against them even to try and train them. As if it is against their moral code to try the easiest way to tame any dragon.

Like, these kids know all these little perks about dragons that Hiccup learned in the first movie. The dragon nip, eels, moving spot of light, specific disabling scratch spots etc. And none of them uses these to befriend or train any dragons throughout the course of the franchise! Dragon nip is an emergency last resort for when they encounter a super aggressive dragon, eels are an absolute no, nobody used shiny laser light spot on any dragons post Httyd 1.

No, they befriend the dragons with trust. They'll only give a dragon scratches after asking permission that is telegraphed in their body language.

The riders respect dragons and there are so many little subtle things which show how they never treat these incredible amazing beings as if they are animals, they always treat them as individuals. As equals.

I love Httyd so much like you have no idea.

[dragonnnfly]

[rosiethedragongeek]

Show Snotlout is just so vastly superior to movie Snotlout, and I KNOW i KNOW they had more time in the shows, but they didn't have to reduce him pretty much solely to comic relief in the movies (I adore movielout btw even though thw Snotlout was a total nightmare)

Bc like it would've been so easy to give him a moment w Hiccup where he's like we believe in you in the second movie to show his growth from the first, or to show him joking around WITH the gang as opposed to being the butt of the joke constantly and stuff idk

[jackshiccup]

the sound effects of astrid hitting tuffnut im crying

[randohumen]

i could rant forever on how much i hate him and how much i dislike him as a villain and that viggo was, and always will be, the greatest HTTYD villain of all time.

[howtodrawyourdragon]

I think we should all thank Stoick and Astrid for giving us the Dragon Riders. Because if it wasn't for one giving Hiccup the kill ring to establish the Dragon Academy and the other for periodically reminding Hiccup he had human friends now, too, Hiccup probably wouldn't be as close to Snotlout, Fishlegs, Ruffnut and Tuffnut as he ended up being.

[revive-the-fandom]

the dragons series had a lot of inconsistencies tbh and I've yet to see anyone spell some of them out? so I'm gonna be the critic i need in my life

Gothi

this childless Grandma is not a healer.

she is a Seeress or a Wise Woman. the Berkians canonically refer to her as The Elder.

A Seeress' job is to commune with gods and spirits (mostly thru getting high) and give advice to their King or Jarl (or Chief). Gothi does this canonically by being the final judge for whether Hiccup or Astrid got to graduate/get the honour of killing the Monstrous Nightmare.

Seeress' were almost always women, although men did occasionally become Seers, it was considered emasculating and unnatural.

Seeress' may also live in high, isolated places in order to be closer to the Gods, which Gothi most definitely does. They could also take vows of silence, which is most likely what Gothi has done, if she isn't physically mute.

Seeress' were highly respected and had a considerably amount of influence over their clan.

Berk's attitude towards the dragons

The end of Httyd 1 showed multiple people riding and co-habituating with Dragons. They had feeding stations (made out of old braziers), stables etc:

But RoB/DoB opens with the village seriously struggling to assimilate the Dragons into their lives, with the Dragons stealing food and shitting in the town square.

Fishlegs & Hiccup

Fishlegs is not Hiccup's friend in Httyd 1, he's one of Hiccup's bullies.

Fishlegs hangs out with Snotlout, the twins and Astrid and laughs along with them when teasing Hiccup. He may be a conflicted or opportunistic bully rather than a flat out asshole, but he's still participating.

Fishlegs is one above Hiccup in the pecking order, if Hiccup's not around to be bullied then Fishlegs is next in line. But as it stands Fishlegs is allowed into the friend circle, whereas Hiccup is not.

Fishlegs is the bully that needs Hiccup around so that he doesn't get bullied himself. He for sure wants to be friends with Hiccup too, but he's not going to risk his position in the group for Hiccup.

Snotlout & bullying Fishlegs

the series (The Iron Gronckle ep mostly) makes out that Snotlout has been terrorising specifically Fishlegs (both physically and verbally) to the point that Fishlegs has become meek and anxious because of him.

which is just blatantly not true, see my above point on Fishlegs being one of the bullies.

Snotlout is mean to Fishlegs, sure. but he's also mean to Hiccup, and on occasion to the Twins. Snotlout is second in command of this group's/generation's pecking order, and he only bows his head to Astrid because she is sitting solidly at the top (and he has a crush on her).

As soon as Astrid is booted off of her pedestal by Hiccup, Snotlout starts acting friendly to Hiccup. So does everyone save Astrid.

and once Hiccup is top dog, Snotlout takes orders from Hiccup, because Hiccup is the most successful and respected of their group. Even when they lead him into dangerous situations like the final battle against the Red/Green Death.

Snotlout is not The Bully TM he's just one of many bullies. He wasn't trying to single people out, he was just trying to fit in with the standard the adults of Berk had set, and one of those standards was bullying the weak.

Astrid & bullying hiccup

the series loves to forget that Astrid was the Leader of the group for most of Httyd 1, and she was at best a passive observer of their bullying Hiccup, and at worst an active participant. She shared Berk's views on "get tough or get out" and applied them to Hiccup.

Astrid took things a step further and started stalking Hiccup as soon as he started out pacing her in training. She pushed him around and hit him, while even Snotlout had only teased him.

Saying that Astrid and Hiccup have "known each other all [their] lives" in RTTE is true in that they have lived in the same village and grown up at the same time, but they most definitely weren't close in Httyd 1.

[lilyrosegold]

[ablatheringblatherskite]

HTTYD theory:

Why are Hiccup, Astrid, Snotlout, Fishlegs, Ruffnut and Tuffnut the only people their age?? Like any other kids we see are always younger than them. Why does their generation consist of literally only six people?? (Unless they exist off screen but why were they never shown??? Cause they're not main characters??? I refuse to accept it)

MY theory is when Hiccup and the others were babies, there was a particularly tough winter, or maybe a sickness that ravaged Berk's children so horribly that most of them died. And the gang were literally the only survivors.

Like no wonder Astrid felt so much pressure to be a good dragon killer (in the first film obviously). Because to her they were picked for a reason, spared by Thor. Like the pressure that they all must have felt being the Children That Survived. But eventually becoming the kids that literally CHANGED THEIR WORLD, and ended up saving Berk their own way. Like this group of kids that survived, who because of that felt pressured, afraid that they'd never be able to take care of and protect their home on their own, ended up doing it in a way they could've never imagined. And that's beautiful to me.

[toothbrushfingers]

MWAHAHHA I MADE MORE

[beefy-arms000]

Do you ever wonder where the other vikings are that’s the same age as the gang?

I mean, all the vikings in the franchise either seem to be 5-10 or 30-50. The only person I know that’s 13-21 is gustav (which who appears in rtte series).

I don’t know if they were born in like a disease or a deadly virus that effected the pregnancy, birth, or while the child was growing in that period of time.

Tell me this, did the gang (including heather) just only and I mean ONLY hang out with each other OR could they go out and hang with other friends if they were able to, considering there’s multiple people in the village that’s their age group?

[000marie198]

In love with how the gang interacts with one another's dragons.

Like, these dragons are their friends too just as much as their own are.

Tuffnut will give Toothless high fives and talk to him, Astrid will bring Hookfang fish and laugh with him at Snotlout and they'll give each other's dragons nicknames and communicate with them like friends and Hiccup will be sassy at Barf and Belch and he loves all dragons so so much but especially the ones he bonded with first and they're so close to him and one of the riders will look after Meatlug if Fishlegs is unavailable and share a look with Toothless when Hiccup is being stupid and they'd get so protective of Hookfang, Tuffnut will tell them bedtime stories and Snotlout will vent to them and Hiccup treats them like one would humans and Fishlegs will infodump about something to them and Astrid will give them The Look™️ that she gives her friends if they're being stupid and Ruffnut will involve them in her prank plans and they all talk to one another's dragon like those dragons are their best friends and any of them would recognize one another's dragons even in hoards of wild monstrous nightmares or nadders or gronckles or zipplebacks

I'm just so normal about the gang and their dragons.

[dragonnnfly]

Correct quote

Snotlout: fishlegs is afraid of heights, the twins can’t count past 9, and and Astrid has obvious anger issues…and… *turns to look at Hiccup*

Hiccup:

Snotlout:

Hiccup:

Snotlout: * looks him up and down* enough said

—

“You just gestured to all of me…” 2.0??

[queer-cosette]

*painting graffiti on the watchtower* Snotlout: That's it! It's done! Hiccup: Gentlemen, we've finally done it. A pot leaf on the watchtower. Fishlegs: It doesn't look like a pot leaf. It looks like a hand giving the finger. Snotlout: It looks fine! Tuffnut: No, Fishlegs is right. Get back up there and make it better. Snotlout: Fine. Snotlout: *climbs back up to keep painting but suddenly wobbles and falls off the watchtower* Hiccup: Oh my gods, Snotlout! Tuffnut: Hey, Snotlout! Snotlout, from the ground twenty feet below Tuffnut and struggling not to cry: Yeah? Tuffnut: What does it look like from down there? Snotlout: It looks like it's giving me the finger.

[jackshiccup]

i think everyone should watch riders of berk