#Siezen

[withered--s0uls]

No idea how many German mutuals or followers I even have but

Anyone else always hated the formal you/ being "Siezed"? It always felt so dehumanizing and alienating to me (and that says something considering I feel Nonhuman). Like I get doing it as a respect thing for like your boss or politicians or whatnot, but I hated it ever since it started when I was 14.

Back then it was just the weird "I'm a *kid*, why are you addressing me like an adult???" Thing to me, but now it just feels genuinely uncomfortable. And I will try to tell people "hey, please call me by my first name. Please use Du" but often its "sorry we legally can't" and??? I hate it??? It feels like I'm not allowed to set boundaries in how I want to be addressed or perceived.

I'm not comfortable being referred to by my surname for a multitude of reasons, nor am I comfortable being Siezed. But my comfort often goes ignored.

[please-let-this-work-oh-my-god]

One thing I find very interesting, as a learner of German, is Isolde's usage of du when speaking to Kakania. In German, there are three main second person pronouns: du, ihr and Sie. The first two are mainly used in informal and casual settings or when talking to people you're close with (with du being singular and ihr being plural sorta similar to english's y'all) while Sie is used in more formal situations (or situations which require some form of formality) such as talking to strangers, customer service or when you're talking to a doctor/patient. Kakania abides by this and uses Sie when talking to Isolde (such as in her speech at the end of chapter 6) but interestingly, Isolde doesn't reciprocate this and instead uses du when conversing with Kakania in German.

This is super fascinating to me because it implies different levels of closeness within their relationship. Isolde's usage of du implies a level of closeness and intimacy to Kakania as Isolde herself saw Kakania as a close friend (most likely due to the fact that Kakania was once of the few people in Vienna who actually sympathized with her and saw her as a human being) but Kakania's siezen suggests a certain level of estrangement or distance between her and Isolde. Of course. this could just be her maintaining her professionalism as doctors normally use Sie when talking to patients but with how things turned out after chapters 6 and 7, I'd like to think this goes deeper than just formality standards.

[lovesickgoose]

Do you remember this feeling?

[undead-cat-in-space]

Honestly whoever is responsible for “peanut” being translated as “Bärchen” in the German version of Deadpool and Wolverine, I extend my deepest gratitude to you.

Not only is Logan so totally a bear, Wade is also using the diminutive?? In love fr

[gondorsfinest]

i think it's a tragedy that I've never seen a discussion about 'fanservice' include erkläre chimäre (2015) because it's iconic.

imagine your country's main public service broadcast channel has been producing a series of thrillers with different detectives and locations since the 1970s. it's a well-established procedural crime show with 30 episodes per year. it's (contestedly) a national treasure. it's not masterpiece after masterpiece, but it's good ol' lowest common denominator family entertainment. in some households, sunday is not the lord's day, but tatort day. from retirement homes to suburban duplexes: boomers love tatort and barbecue. it is law.

then there's a new duo (a detective and a pathologist! fun!) and they are silly and codependent and have opposites-attract vibes. everything the zillennial tumblrina heart desires. the tone of their episodes is lighter than the others and soon, they become the most popular duo in the entire country.

and then imagine the channel says "hey folks, we’ll make an episode where the main two guys pretend to be gay married to get an inheritance from Boerne's gay uncle. for an entire episode. they're wearing heirloom rings that belonged to his grandparents. you can read it as romantic with minimal effort. it has a number of characters commenting on how they're an old married couple without it feeling mean, gimmicky or queerbait-y. it's a silly episode bc all tatort münster episodes are silly. don't like don't read. eat up oma gisela."

like... that's a slay. nobody does it like tatort münster.

[wulfhalls]

THE X FILES ON THE REGULAR TELEVISION

[angryducktimemachine]

Mein Senf zu der Siezen und Duzen Sache ist übrigens auch dass sie sich Siezen. Ich weiß in dem einen Bild habe ich das Du benutzt, aber das war weil der Text über Holmes ursprünglich nicht von Watson kam sondern von mir und ich duze meine Blorbos halt.

[daughterofhecata]

Habe übrigens neulich festgestellt, dass es zumindest einen (1) Präzedenzfall gibt, wo Cotta tatsächlich "Samuel" sagt und nicht "Reynolds".

[darkacademiaarchivist]

Once again watching the german doctor who dub and S2 is worse for me than S1 because David Tennant's German voice just. Doesn't fit.

[german-enthusiast]

16 of the German Hamilton Songs are out on Spotify now

[tardis--dreams]

I should be finishing my the devil judge rewatch but here i am being sucked into my 7th time of beyond evil and there's nothing i can do about it

[queereinstieg]

20 sein ist so anstrengend weil auf der einen Seite hab ich mich noch nicht daran gewöhnt gesiezt zu werden und es fühlt sich mega weird an Aber auf der anderen Seite finde ich es asozial wenn mich Erwachsene automatisch duzen nur weil ich jünger bin als sie

[dasozelotvonnebenan]

I think english should adopt an honorific version of "you" simply so the translators don't make a mess of it

[1eeminho]

n teenager hat mich heute gesiezt hahahahaaa :) :)))

[forustothinkistobealive]

Siezen die sich??

[mothmans-cumrag]

I love Siezing and being Siezed actually. It was the fact that they kept calling me Frau X that annoyed me about it