#Theory?

[queerbug05]

Deltarune this, deltarune that, Sans is from deltarune, no Sans was created in a Gaster experiment, no Sans and Papyrus were Gaster experiments from the deltarune universe that got trapped in Undertale, wouldn’t it be hilarious if they were from a secret third Tobey Fox universe revealed at the end of Deltarune, cause I think that would be hysterical tbh

[notagayman]

Is it a stretch to say this might've been foreshadowing for Ribbit or am I dumb

[yasyyah]

guys...? is Barnaby trying to say something to us-?

[gelu-the-babosa-multiversal]

Something something that has been scratching my brain. Where is the third member of the Sunshine Sisters?

We know Rumi's mom (one of the members) died when Mira was young, and we know that the parent role ended on Celine (the second member), but we never get to hear what happened to the third member, whose name isn't even said...

Was she more heartbroken by Rumi's mom's death, and did she not accept Rumi as a hunter? Did she die as well? If she is still alive, then why didn't she help Celine train the girls?

I feel that having her in the movie could have stalled the story of the film a bit bc is already too many characters, but I also wonder how the writers could have handled it. Like, have the last 2 members of the Sunshine Sisters disagree on what to do with Rumi? IDK I just thought about it...

[thewallsaretalking-again]

Ok i understand why they made Hollyberry Cookie a steel element (y’know, the giant metal shield and all,) but i would like to propose my own concept:

YEAH I RECENTLY LEARNED THAT HOLLYBERRIES ARE POISONOUS AND THERES SO MUCH POTENTIAL THERE???

Like seriously, i had an idea recently that revolves around this specific fact. Notice how in every single one of hollyberrys sprites have gloves on (with the exception of her “baby” sprites)? The hollyberry kingdom is known to be quite hot, and yet she has herself covered from head to toe. The only other character to do this is Royalberry Cookie, Hollyberrys son. What if she covers herself up so much because her dough is poisonous, and if someone were to touch her and somehow get that poison in their mouth they could be killed (or at least get really sick)? And what if royalberry covers himself completely because either a. Hollyberry cookie didn’t want him getting sick if he touched/licked/ate something she touched bare handed as a baby or b. The notoriously anxious king isn’t sure if his dough is also poisonous and doesn’t want to take any chances. Just a concept, but i might adopt it as a head cannon.

Unless of course her awakened form comes out and doesn’t follow the same rule and then suddenly my theory goes out the frikin window. Y’know, like FNAF and game theory. Immediately debunked. Well guess i gotta wait and see.

Ref image under the cut

[muzetrigger]

Nevermore Season 2 Bingo

Back to burying my actual writing with more Nevermore! (Go check out my #DiaryOfNana tag if you're interested in that other thing I do besides Nevermore.)

Anyway, I've never actually done a prediction bingo sheet before, but people on the Nevercord brought it up, so I thought I'd give it a try, leading to this... uh, mess?

Reusing the pngs from this project:

because I spent way too much time on them and now I'm going to use them in anything I can shove them in >:P

So, anyone else have some predictions or wild asks they want in season 2?

[sansa286]

F&B Propaganda: Paternity Disputes (or Lack Thereof)

Something that's always confused me when reading Fire & Blood is why some characters have their paternity placed under scrutiny due to a lack of resemblance to one parent, while others are given a pass. These are some thoughts and analysis I had on the subject.

So, we all know F&B is a pseudo-history book written from a plethora of unreliable pseudo-sources, some of whom very well may be telling the truth, other's who are fibbing a bit (or a lot), and the rest that told flat-out lies and regurgitated gossip. Therefore, certain inconsistencies, like paternity debates, are not showing that GRRM is an inconsistent writer, but rather him pointing out the blatant favoritism and narrative spinning that happens when history is written. Simply put: unless/until we get the events of F&B written in an ASOIAF style multi-POV structure, most of the stuff in F&B is meant to be taken with a grain of salt, some grains bigger than others. For example: Visenya being "jealous" of Rhaenys over Aegon preferring her romantically is clearly out-of-character, but treated as legit because Visenya is not a well-liked person in the grand-scheme of Westerosi history and culture. Therefore, painting her as envious is a way to spin her as "bitter" and "unlikable," when she more than likely just had a lot of ambition, and/or did what she thought was right for the Targaryen cause (flawed those actions may be).

We all know Rhaenyra was the subject of side-eyes over her three eldest sons, Jacaerys Velaryon, Lucerys Velaryon, and Joffrey Velaryon, who are officially recorded as sons of Laenor Velaryon; however, it's widely believed (and canon in the show) that they are biologically the sons of Harwin Strong, who Rhaenyra had an affair with because Laenor was gay and their attempts to conceive children were not successful. The reason in-universe people believed (both in the books and the show) that they were Harwin's is due to their dark hair and eyes (Harwin has green eyes in the show, but in the books it's inferred that they're brown like the Velaryon boys'.)

However, the Velaryon boys are not the only ones who don't share the same coloring as their parents (or the parents on paper). There are actually two others that come before them in the Targaryen bloodline that share that in common, however their paternity is never called into question. They are Alysanne and her daughter, Alyssa.

Biblically accurate Alysanne Targaryen. "Her eyes were blue rather than purple, her hair a mass of honey-colored curls." - Fire & Blood (pg. 131, ch. "The Year of the Three Brides")

Alysanne is the fifthborn child and secondborn daughter of Aenys Targaryen and Alyssa Velaryon. Her older siblings were Aegon, Rhaena, Viserys, Jaehaerys (who she married), and Vaella (passed away in the crib). All of Aenys and Alyssa's children are inferred to have had stereotypically Valyrian features (silver hair and purple eyes); Rhaena is the only one we get a full description of outside of Jaehaerys and Alysanne, but if the others didn't look Valyrian, it definitely would've been noted in the book. Aenys and Alyssa are noted for both having Valyrian features (par. 3 here & F&B p. 127; Aenys weirdly enough never gets hair color mention, but if it were anything other than silver we'd know, but we'll get to Aenys in a minute). We're told explicitly Alysanne has a head full of honey colored curls and blue eyes. But this is never brought up as a point of contention or placed her paternity up for debate. It's just assumed that it's due to her maternal grandmother, Alarra Massey, being an Andal woman.

However, this assumption is never mentioned in F&B. Her features are just mentioned and that was it. The theory laid-out by fans is that her hair and eyes come from her grandmother, however, Alarra's looks are never detailed in F&B. We only know that she was considered very beautiful (p. 127); and there are plenty of people of Andal descent who do not have blonde hair and blue eyes.

"Her [Alyssa Targaryen] hair was a dirty blonde tangle with no hint of silver to evoke the dragonlords of old, and she had been born with mismatched eyes, one violet, the other a startling green." - Fire & Blood (pg. 287, ch. "The Long Reign-Jaehaerys and Alysanne: Policy, Progeny, and Pain")

Which brings me to her daughter, Alyssa Targaryen, who was also noted for having non-traditional Valyrian features (dirty blonde hair, green and purple heterochromia eyes). But Alyssa's paternity is also never brought up as possibly being anything other than what was recorded at her birth. (As for the show, Daemon's perspective on his mother is warped due to being knee-deep in the Targaryen sauce, so that's why I think his mother doesn't look like what she's supposed to in the show. If they ever do an adaptation of Jaehaerys' reign, I hope they don't throw a silver wig on her, but given what they did to Rhaenys who tf knows?) Interestingly, Alyssa is also described as long-faced, which is a trait associated with the Starks, and Alysanne was noted for being close to...Alaric Stark (I'll spare you that theory though.)

This is all fascinating with the knowledge of the dance being in the exact same book, because Rhaenyra has three dark haired and dark eyed boys and there's all of this speculation. Some may assume it's because both Rhaenyra and Laenor have silver hair and purple eyes, but so did Alysanne's parents, Aenys and Alyssa V. And like their great-great grandmother, Alysanne (if we're to believe she simply looks like her grandmother), Jace, Luke, and Joff also have a grandmother with non-Valyrian looks in Rhaenys, who in F&B had dark hair. There is no report of catching Rhaenyra and Harwin screwing around, jut observing the differences in looks of her children and Laenor. Surely, if we're to never assume that Alysanne is not a bastard because her grandmother (may have) had the same features/genes that simply skipped a generation, we could also do the same for them?

Sidebar: I am not saying that Alysanne is secretly a bastard or that the Velaryon boys' actually are trueborn, just that the reasons for this assumption are silly. If one kid is going to have their paternity scrutinized for not resembling their parents coloring-wise, then all kids who fall in that category should. That being said it is important to point out that it's not IMPOSSIBLE for Alysanne and the boys being/ not being a bastard to be true. It's been pointed out for years by the fandom that the people in ASOIAF don't understand genetics. The only reason Ned had a leg to stand on is because Cersei straight-up admitted to sleeping with Jaime, and letting him father her kids. Had Ned realistically went to Robert without Cersei's admission, and said that her children are not his because they have blonde hair and green eyes, he would be laughed at because a child resembling their mother and not their father is common. And on the off-chance that he does get some traction with it, well, not enough people would believe him, and Tywin would make a bigger example out of House Stark than he already has.

But again, secret-bastardy/secret-trueborness is not the point I'm trying to make. And if Alysanne were really a secret bastard, then, honestly, more power to her. She'd only become more iconic in my eyes.

So this begs the question: why are some people not speculated on for not resembling one or both parents coloring-wise while others aren't? It brings me back to the introduction: F&B is propaganda and certain pseudo-historical figures need to be portrayed in a certain light in order for the story they want to tell to be successful. This goes doubly-so for those that were close to Jaehaerys, and in this case: his mom (Alyssa V), his wife (Alysanne), and his daughter (Alyssa T).

Jaehaerys is considered the peak of the Targaryen dynasty and well liked by the establishment in Westeros (the Citadel, the Faith, various lords and ladies of the major houses). He is the Great Conciliator. Therefore, certain "creative liberties" being afoot is quite expected and this is not above the antics we see take place during his reign. Just look at how the true cause of Gael's death was covered up for years and the fishiness of Saera's disappearance and Viserra's death.

Alyssa V is considered a perfect mother, despite the less-than-stellar choices she made with her children outside of Jaehaerys. She's considered to be so great that the lords that sat the Small Council were able to put aside their misogyny and allow themselves to be ruled by a woman until Jaehaerys came of age. She is one of the main reasons Jaehaerys was able to take the Iron Throne in the first place. It would not go well if the man who was considered to be the greatest king of Westeros had a mother who may have cuckolded his father. Compare this to Aenys, who despite having Valyrian features had a one-off rumor about him being the secret bastard of Rhaenys the Conqueror and one of her male favorites mentioned in F&B; and this is 100% due to the fact that Aenys is considered by Westerosi historians to have been a weak and incompetent king. (Just think: if Aenys, who resembled his parents, had bastard rumors - do you seriously expect us to believe that neither Alysanne nor Alyssa ever had any?) "But, Jaehaerys is strong, brave, diplomatic, wise, etc... of course he comes from a mom who embodies Westerosi ideals to a tea. She even died trying to give her second husband more heirs despite her delicate age. Such a moral [debatable] man could only be born from a woman who was nothing but dutiful."

Alysanne is considered the perfect wife and queen consort, highly regarded for the active role she took during her husband's reign. She was intelligent, altruistic, birthed many children, and rode a dragon. She was so good at her job as queen she got several laws passed that now share her name. "Not only could such a woman not be born a bastard, but she in addition to being Jaehaerys' wife is also his sister, and could surely not be born from a woman who would ever risk bringing a bastard into this world."

And then, there's Alyssa T, the secondborn daughter and fifthborn child overall of both Alysanne and Jaehaerys, and was a wife to the highly regarded Baelon (also her brother), which means she was never going to be on the receiving end of those accusations. She even escapes having the usual witchcraft practitioner and/or lesbian/queer rumors that are usually thrown at women in Westeros who do not fit the traditional ideas of being a woman (even Visenya had those accusations). Her preferring boyish activities is never painted as a negative by the narrative unlike with other women in Westerosi culture. "Of course she's straight as an arrow and brags about how much sex she's having with her well-beloved and cherished-by-all brother-husband who was considered a peak heir and would neverrrrrr marry a bastard. Of course she thought most girls were idiots. Of course she brags about how many sons (never daughters) she's going to give her husband. Of course she does not care about anything outside of being a broodmare after being married like all good girls do. Bastard? Never. Two of her grandsons were kings we fondly remember. She is trueborn like her mother. She is Athena if she fucked."

But Jace, Luke, and Joff? Their mother was the first ever female heir apparent (not presumptive, apparent) to the Seven Kingdoms, and kept this status even after her father had three sons. She never apologized for this. And she entered a war over for her claim. "She wore a braid like that crazy warrior-witch Queen Visenya. She's breaking tradition by going ahead of her brothers in succession. She's bitchy sometimes. She's not thin like good women are supposed to be even after birthing several children. Speaking of children, yeah she did her duty and had many male heirs but some of them have dark hair and she's a whore, so they must be bastards. She's trying to take over a man's place. Of course she's evil and reveled in the deaths of her baby nephews. Of course she fucks outside of marriage. Honestly, I'd be more surprised if they weren't bastards!"

TL;DR: F&B uses paternity debates as a way to attempt to delegitimize/sow doubt against people the narrators don't like, this only prove by how inconsistent one's potentially faulty paternity is evoked on the basis of looks and nothing else. The chances of any of your trueborn faves secretly being a bastard is never zero. Now, I kind of want Alysanne to be a secret bastard.

UPDATE Sept. 5, 2024: Edited for grammar, word-flow, and minor spelling mistakes.

[mommyscarcass]

Sometimes, I sit and wonder about scenarios that are morbidly intriguing. Like what if it turned out Danny's parents were unreliable narrators and Maddie was the one to cause Vlad's accident? Like we're shown Ecto-acne is actually pretty bad in the show and not just something that just "ruins your social life". Who's to say any part of that story is true. What if Maddie was the one that made the mistake, and Jack, being her boyfriend, decides to cover for her while Vlad's in the hospital. But the guilt starts eating at her, so they avoid him for as long as possible. Eventually, she lies to herself so much that she believes they did nothing wrong. Meanwhile, Vlad still believes his best friend scarred him and "stole" his crush. Imagine if that was the truth and it was revealed to Vlad. It would absolutely crush his perception of everything he knew for the last few decades.

[the-cinnamon-snail]

Okay. Here's what I don't get. So here the nine headed demon has nine snakes on his head. All fine and dandy, makes sense, nine heads (ignoring his actual head because yeah I get it for character design.)

But here? He has 8 snakes, and the demon bird thing head.

Now, if we ignore the middle head like we do for the more humanoid form, what does this mean?

Well, maybe it could be a reference to how in actual mythology and the like, The Nine Headed Demon had one of his heads bitten off by the celestial howling dog, Erlang Shen's companion, Xiaotian Quan.

Is this just being said because I want to see Erlang in LMK? Yes. Yes it is. But also because I love NHD

[p3arl-luk1]

Crazy theory but what if the way Sebastian’s eyes looked in the April fools update is what his eyes look like when his more violent instincts kick in. Like, when we see him in the base game, his eyes are fully dilated and his expression is friendly because he treats us like some kinda ally. But in the April fools update, we’re just a security guard he has no care for and he’s out to get us. He’s planning violence and so his pupils are smaller as a result of his violent nature taking over. Idk but it was an interesting thought I had while drawing him today.

[bug-100]

i had this idea pop up in my head a few days ago before bed and its ena's are people who slowly grow that triangle stuff (like at the end in ena dream bbq chapter 1) on them to the point it covers them and makes cocoon that soon grows an ena

i like to think that it resets their memory's but keeps the same personality

here is a sketch of the idea I made in like less than 30 min

[s-wave-entertainment]

...Hey so like. Who's J's admin now?

We know that the disassembly drones' previous admin was Cyn. I personally think Cyn and the Solver are two separate entities, and I have reason to believe that's true for a few reasons, but That's a later rant. Let's assume Cyn herself (≠ Solver) has 0 control over the drones and is only listed as their admin because the Solver's primary host was Cyn, who was completely unresponsive on her own. But now the Solver's primary host is Uzi, who is still VERY MUCH responsive on her own. Now, N and V were already changed to have Uzi as their admin by Uzi's own hand. But... did J's admin also change due to the host switch?

Basically. Prior primary Solver host = Cyn, Cyn = DD admin, [EP. 8 OCCURS], Cyn is destroyed, Uzi = current primary Solver host, Uzi = DD admin???? And if so. You guys think J experienced any significant change?

I think we have enough evidence to conclude that J didn't LOVE being a suck-up to the Solver, she did it to gain better circumstance and maybe to protect herself from getting hurt because people above her have only ever hurt her COUGH sorry that's a later post as well but anyway, it's likely it was either threatening her or just generally being a dick. Suddenly the space in her head where there was previously a manipulative threatening asshole is clear because the Solver is being actively reigned in by Uzi. It makes me wonder, if my theory is right... would J head to the outpost to get some answers? Possibly even closure?

Even if she didn't/doesn't, it's interesting to me to imagine J's reaction to suddenly having a new admin - and knowing her, I'm pretty damn sure she'd notice pretty quick. I imagine she's not exactly fond of not knowing everything about her own systems... y'know, to ensure efficiency remains maximized! Yeah...

Also also just a little extra thought about this - Cyn's heart was destroyed, effectively destroying Cyn, who we can assume was J's admin, yeah? We cool on that? Okay so take this next bit with a grain of salt as I'm no computer girly and know nothing about how this works, BUT, if she suddenly loses the piece of code/program she was dependent on for normal operation, would that not lead to her Error 606ing somewhere? Which we know didn't happen because we see her up and active in the post credits, and also, typically when/if the Solver fully takes over, it goes to constitute its material (eldritch) form, right? So J HAS to have an admin, and I only see one drone as a possible candidate. But, just a little ramble for you on this fine Thursday afternoon. Food for thought, if you will. Or oil. Whatever it is you consume <3

[alias-main]

Am I the only one who thought expresseline or am I just being delulu?

[classified-animations]

[awesome-shoes-with-wings]

Athena’s Characterization in Epic: The Musical Makes a Tragic Amount of Sense If Her Backstory with Pallas Is Canon

AKA I Have A Lot Of Feelings

At least I know what I'm fighting for While you're fighting to be known Since you claim you're so much wiser Why's your life spent all alone? You're alone - My Goodbye, Cyclops Saga

Odysseus' words here hit Athena hard—enough to shift her narrative the next time we see her. Maybe there’s a reason she pushes Odysseus to be the best, to never fail. Because the last time Athena failed, her best friend died.

Now Odysseus lost Polites and his soldiers to the Cyclops. Another failure - "I don't know where I went wrong". Athena partially blames herself for the way it turned out.

You are reckless, sentimental at best That's not a teaching of mine You've grown soft, your dead friends can attest - My Goodbye, Cyclops Saga

When Athena was still a new goddess, she was educated by Prince Triton. His daughter, Pallas, was her best friend. Her first, even. Killed by her own spear.

While Zeus may have been responsible for setting the events in motion, Athena likely holds herself responsible. If she had been a wise warrior, then Pallas' death could've been avoided. If she had been a ruthless warrior, she would've won and Zeus would've had no reason to intervene. Even in practice, Zeus' expectations for Athena were higher than she could reach. Athena cannot fail again.

Now, I'm knocking on your door With hopes to save a friendship - God Games, Wisdom Saga

Athena is once again fights for the life of a friend. She says "friendship", knowing she and Odysseus might never reconcile. She's not quite saving a friendship as much as she is saving her friend. Now make it even worse by thinking about Pallas.

I can't help but wonder what this world could be If we all held each other with a bit more empathy I can't help but feel like I led you astray What if there's a world where we don't have to live this way? - I Can't Help But Wonder, Ithaca Saga

These lines reflect something deeper within Athena. A question she has grappled with from the start. She has a desire to "make a greater tomorrow". It's why she takes young Odysseus under her wing. She recognised in him the potential for a better world. Athena lost sight of what that meant. Then Odysseus reminded her—and maybe, just maybe, it was Pallas too.