#Vidcon 2015

[reunitedinterlude]

phil trash number one

bonus:

[thisdayindnphistory]

This Day in Dan & Phil History - July 23

2010 - phil uploads Which Deadly Animal Are You?! | INTERACTIVE QUIZ!

2011 - lmao

2012 - besties move to their london flat together :)

2014 - TEEN ICON

2015 - PHIL TRASH #1

#danzell

bestie boos

2017 - crash bandicoot

2018 - detroit boys

2023 - judging your faves with no context

[tachyonblu]

"I’m going back to when Sargon went to that VidCon where Anita Sarkeesian was there. He sat quietly in the audience, and she called him out as someone making endless videos about her. He said, 'I just want a discussion,' and she was like, 'No way.' To me, that was part of the problem—it was all kind of one-sided," says Hogwarts Legacy lead designer Troy Leavitt.

Plus Troy shares his thoughts on NotYourShield and why GamerGate was censored.

[lizardsmp3]

i really wanna go back in time to little baby amelia 9 years ago losing her fucking mind over dan first calling himself phil trash number one at vidcon 2015 and let that kid know that well he was only gonna get weirder and weirder about the title forever and ever

[fuckdanhowell]

my favorite personal dnp lore

when i started watching dnp in 2012, my mom (who grew up catholic conservative in the south and never really understood Gay) asked me IMMEDIATELY if they were gay together (poor dan; everyone clocked it) and i got So defensive and swore they were not gay. then the very next year she asked me again and i was like Yeah .

because i told my mom in 2013 that they were (are) gay, she has ALWAYS . ALWAYS thought they have been hard launched since ALWAYS. she Never lived in a world where dnp love was a secret. i did this on purpose to avoid explaining the lore. however, i was visiting my hometown last year and watching new dnpg videos while doing jigsaw puzzles and she was like .... "when did they... start talking about it?" and i was gagged. i said, approx "... 2009. but it was on the dl/on lock until 2019 and especially since they moved into their house and started making videos again. now it's a free-for-all." My cover was blown.

unrelated: i am the person who filmed the phil trash #1 clip at the vidcon panel in 2015 and my mom was next to me and you can hear her laugh in multiple dan main channel and dinofvy1 (aww throwback) videos. this clip got millions of views across different platforms and i gained thousands of followers for literally such a nothingburger reason

less exciting but when i met them last fall, i had them sign our framed m&g photo from when i met them 10 years ago and it was very sweet. also i asked them to pick from my 4 cats which was their favorite and dan immediately gagged over my ginger cat. then in the q&a 30 minutes later he was like "phil is a ginger cat ^_^" ok homotron

[amyoffline]

It's done! The outline for—

—is below the cut. The goal of this project is to explore the following phenomena with as much context and nuance as I can manage, tracing our history over the past 15 years:

What about us, and what about Dan and Phil, drew in and continues to draw in a very specific audience. If they are a ranch metaphor, we are a pizza metaphor 🥗🍕🫶🏻

Why we were Like That™, by which I mean so parasocially invested in them that we became, at times, the most annoying people on the internet. Much of that reputation is undeserved, and the videos on the phandom to date have been strongly negative. So, uh, I guess I'm going to put my face on camera and (mostly) defend us.

Reblog, share in your Discord servers, reply, or send me messages/anon asks with feedback or resources if you have any! Especially if your experience being in this fandom community has been dramatically different from mine. There are TIT spoilers near the end of the outline, but I'm not tagging because certain individuals seem to be lurking over there. Thank you!

Chapters:

Full outline:

introduction

cold open

felt personally attacked by jonathan haidt's last press tour

showed up to the phrenaissance 11 months late

had an unexpectedly strong response to their new content, needed to find out why

what the hell are we doing here?

- phenomenology (academics are professionally insufferable) - research question 1: what drew the audience in? - research question 2: why were we Like That™?

what we're NOT doing here

- a strict content analysis or "wow we sucked" video - providing sources for things best left uncirculated, thank you

reflexivity (personal biases)

- american zillennial in public health - in the youtube audience by spring 2010 - lurking in the phandom on tumblr 2013-2015, back* since 2019 - fan behavior i did and did not engage in

(----): truly necessary background information, i swear

(pop) cultural trends, tech, and their intersection

- nerd/geek identity and the first online weirdos - broadcast tv & the music industry vs the internet - defining "emo" - blogging & vlogging - early internet comedy

broader social/economic trends

- so the U.S. economy collapsed in 2007 - a decade that sucked except for rom-coms and square enix games - the flip/slide phone + digital camera + mp3 player loadout

(05-8): early youtube and early phil

youtube: a great video uploader without a clear purpose

the content on the website

- crossposts, corporations, and creative/social outlets - omg guys it's amazing phil - contemporary youtube-to-legacy success: justin bieber

the audience of "early adopters"

contemporary social media sites and forums

(2009): origin story

a wild dan appears… in the comments

the global constant that is teenagers being messy online

daring my old school district to sue me

- "one town's war on gay teens" (literal rolling stone headline!) - epidemiology 101: rates of… ugh… "unaliving" oneself - ways kids cope when it seems no adults will help them

the earliest days of dan & phil

- hello internet + pinof - a chronically overexamined timeline - file deleted ---* so how big WAS the audience at the time? ---* acceptable funny/edgy language was just different

contemporary youtube-to-legacy success: lucas cruikshank

omg it's meeeeeee

- how amy & friends were using youtube - ways i was just destined to end up here - being in social environments with peers 3-6 years older

(2010): is it "twenty-ten" or "two thousand ten?"

youtube is a platform about to explode in popularity

- the algorithm before it was The Algorithm™, lost site features - let's take a trip through the wayback machine :3c - actual dan & phil content in 2010 - the green brothers found vidcon - contemporary youtube-to-legacy success: darren criss

social media: also about to explode in popularity

- facebook was cool at the time, believe it or not - law of equivalent exchange: 2010 amy cringe compilation - the birth of instagram and pinterest - youtube slash livejournal (the first phanfics… sort of) - shockfic and its place in the overton window

the beginning of "the great rewiring" as haidt calls it

- ways social media is about to dramatically change - third spaces become online spaces - confounding variable: changing expectations of teens

(2011): the end of an era, the start of an age

a very long tangent on fandom and pop culture

cultural exchange

counterculture and teenagers as concepts

the first british invasion: the 1960s

- beatlemania and its descendents - moral panic about the virtue of tween/teen girls - tv/film/fashion trends being imported from the uk - in parallel, star trek births the modern fandom

the second british invasion: the 1980s

- synth/new pop that came out of the punk movement (hi, emo?) - confined mainly to music and fashion - cool britannia

it's harry freakin' potter

- absolute titan of pop culture influence - the rise of online fandom: examining the horrors ---* what is "wank" ---* flaming, sockpuppeting, and general cyberbullying ---* censorship: ffnet purges, boldthrough, & strikethrough ---* other fandom shenanigans of the time (yaoi paddles, anyone?)

harry potter's over. now what?

- for those who needed coming-of-age hero's journeys ---* twilight and YA dystopia waiting in the wings ---* some pretty iconic tv shows start or hit their stride ---* the mcu's phase one ---* takeaway: the rise of "geek culture" generally - for those who just wanted to go to hogwarts ---* doctor who & the wider world of bbc programming ---* british vloggers, you say? where? on youtube? brb--

end tangent, back to your regularly scheduled programming

dan & phil in the first half of 2011

- a continuation of 2010… for now - the videos - british pancakes as a case study of bad fan behavior

streaming and social media

- the birth of snapchat, twitch, and younow - netflix starts developing original programming - multi-channel networks (mcns) - digitour

dan & phil in the second half of 2011

- and they were roommates (omg they were roommates) - fantastic foursome - youtube glitches out - the super amazing project - the first proper baking video + wait, is that the bbc?

~ baking interlude 1: christmas cookies ~

the family sugar cookie (sorry, delia)

amy's 2011

(2012): why is anyone nostalgic for this

the transition from desktop to mobile

- massive growth in smartphone ownership 2011-2015 - things one might do on mobile one might not do on desktop - non-online ways smartphones changed being a youth™

what is tumblr and why is my child using it

- how the site is meant to work - fandom, memes, aesthetics, and SOME public figures - want to be anxious and depressed in peace? come to tumblr - this site seems a little……… gay ---* tumblr's very queer, very neurodiverse userbase ---* legacy media representation in 2012: bad! ---* actual academic research on tumblr users (yes, it exists) - the tumblr experience for non-native english speakers

amy becomes a vibrating mass of panic and paranoia

- in context of the above - additional rant about the american public school system

the growing dan & phil audience

- investigating the origin of the term "phannie" - more collaborations = more viewers - more video uploads = more /invested/ viewers - younow and interacting with fans - watch time replaces clicks in the algorithm

online etiquette, or lack thereof

- mid-transition from the 2000s to the 2010s - "professional internet celebrity" is still basically brand-new - lack of boundaries - various ways to be an asshole online - unsupervised kids simply do not engage in best practices

the end of 2012

- dan and phil move to london - wikipedia vandalism - tiptoeing around a top contender for the phandom's greatest sin - super amazing project DONE, now it's BBC RADIO TIME

(2013): arguably the most important year

- wait. what's that six-second video platform over there--

[amy's curated vine compilation]

- a new wave of internet comedians (read: future youtubers) - the zillennial lexicon - other platforms start emphasizing short-form video content - magcon

emo is BACK - well, sort of

- fob hiatus ends, mcr breaks up. my god. you had to be there - more open ties to nerd/geek culture than in the 2000s - these things once again intersect at dan and phil

dan and phil in the first half of 2013

- siri, what's a "sex symbol?" why are you booing me i'm right-- - d&p are everywhere - radio shows, interviewing, hosting - youtube uploads on their individual channels

rapidly changing cultural attitudes towards queerness

- gay marriage will be legal in places other than canada soon - a lot of assimilationist rhetoric though tbh - parallels to the pop feminism of the decade

hey kids, let's talk about compulsory heterosexuality!!

- what is it and why do people do it - academic, tumblr-level, and anecdotal research - the dannies, the phillies, and the phannies

amy

- the closet™ - mental health stigma - 2013 dnp posts from my main blog

dan and phil in the second half of 2013

- subscriber milestones, vidcon - joint content before the gaming channel - phandom starts having a major presence outside tumblr

(2014): achievement unlocked!

it's time to talk about rpf

- definitions (a chance to be annoyingly pedantic) - academic perspectives and fan discourse on the ethics - when the subjects clearly aren't fine with it - so… we can acknowledge "shipping phan" was different, right? ---* sometimes the subjects are fine* with it, actually ---* how dan and phil started to handle the shipping ---* obvious differences between phan and other rpf ships ---* sharing my favorite passages as a first-time phanfic reader

dan and phil in 2014

- wikipedia vandalism 2: electric boogaloo - bbc request show → internet takeover - the 7 second challenge - youtube content, subscriber milestones, rewind - cons and award shows

tumblr reaches the peak of its influence

- yahoo's attempts to monetize the userbase - buzzfeed and aggregators steal our jokes and bait our clicks - legacy media dangles carrots and uses us for free marketing - the legend of korra breaks TV precedent, almost out of nowhere - the tumblr user experience ---* on mobile, without xkit ---* on desktop, with xkit ---* 2014 dnp posts from my main blog

gamergate and its long shadow

- trolling, renewed and revamped - algorithms push increasingly extreme content - the broad conservative backlash conglomerate - increased normalization of conspiracism in general

my greatest sin [not clickbait] [very funny]

- so, circling back to comphet… - the actual story

anyway, let's talk about danandphilgames

- a star is born: dil howlter - different types of gaming content on youtube at the time - why did 17yo amy not subscribe? well…

~ baking interlude 2: chocolate cupcakes ~

make your own frosting. it freezes well

roasting myself further

(2015): it's not queerbaiting when it's real people

facebook "pivots to video"

- mark zuckerberg lied. water is wet - causes other platforms to REALLY double down on video - the birth of musical.ly - corporate-branded creators (read: future youtubers)

queerbaiting enters mainstream public consciousness

- academic origins - early fannish and acafan writing - johnlock, destiel, and sterek - statistics 101: type i error, type ii error, and queerbait

dan, phil, and the phandom

- bbc, cons, & the brits - danandphilcrafts - phan conspiracies ---* japhan ---* body language experts ---* timeline truthers ---* floor plan investigators ---* no but seriously imagine it - regular youtube uploads ---* solo content ---* joint content ---* subscriber milestones, rewind - tatinof uk and tabinof ---* on "selling out" ---* revisiting the statistics 101 lesson: now with real people! ---* never meet your heroes (unless they're dan and phil)

amy's (temporary) exit from the phandom

- it's legal adulthood with a steel chair!! - growing discomfort with some fans' behavior - 2015 dnp posts from my main blog - the closer: final fantasy vii

(2016): season finale

vine's imminent demise

- content platforms behaving badly - content creators behaving badly

youtube after "the great rewiring" (as haidt calls it)

- version 1.0 of the modern youtube algorithm ---* deep neural networks for dummies ---* what's holding creators accountable, or not - advertising and sponsorships ---* basically every child and youth™ is watching now ---* the battle for our attention ---* regulators start to crack down on undisclosed ads - the rise of drama/tea content (and later, channels) ---* youtubers are now seen as regular celebrities ---* dan and phil as the butt of other youtubers' jokes ---* baiting the phandom for engagement

tatinof us and aus

- a proven new model for live show tours - show & documentary released to youtube red (now premium) - [sigh] the tour bus

sea change in online fandom

- the newer, sometimes queerer media in korra's wake ---* better and more representation in live-action tv shows ---* voltron (i'm sorry!!!) ---* the mystic messenger craze ---* alice oseman & heartstopper - the new dynamics of #discourse ---* proship is to anti as phannie is to phanti ---* the bad behaviors of the 00s get a new coat of paint ---* new, though: fans harassing creators ---* a personal note on ace discourse

dan and phil presence off-tour

- the internet takeover ends - regular content, subscriber milestones

so. uh. current events.

- brexit - sorry the united states is a font of chaos - ripple effects

closing out the year

- amy finally gets an anxiety diagnosis and treatment! hurray! - dapgo, rewind - bbc radio awards & the boncas - gamingmas

(2017): time for a rebrand

tangent - sit down!!! buckle up!!! today's lecture is on PSIs & PSRs!!!

"parasocial" as defined by the current zeitgeist

- summing up youtubers' and laypeople's opinions (not dan's) - an unfairly negative stance overall, imo

older academic literature

- the 1956 paper (yes, 1956) - with traditional celebrities - with fictional characters

current academic literature

- with youtubers and other content creators - positive effects on the audience - negative effects on the audience - broader societal implications

fandom spaces as a parasocial experience

- parasocial and truly social interactions with each other - phandom as a supportive, welcoming space for oddballs - what research i can find about neurospicy folks, + anecdotes - me and everyone else on planet earth move to discord

inherent transactionality

- the nature of celebrity - positive effects on creators - negative effects on creators

reexamining early phandom through a parasocial lens

- the good, the bad, and the ugly - the role audience demographics played in all of this - entering, exiting, and remaining in the phandom

end tangent, back to your regularly scheduled programming

vine is well and truly dead

- some had prepared to become primarily youtubers (smart) - some move to musical.ly, insta, facebook, or snap (less so)

the sun sets on danisnotonfire

- i am very normal about dan's hobbit hair, i swear. - the last dnp content before the rebrand - new apartment, new floor plan investigations

adpocalypse now

- youtube has become the village elder of platforms ---* increased scrutiny, increased responsibility ---* some youtubers had been getting away with !#$!#@% - the scandals ---* pewdiepie + logan paul ---* elsagate and being "family- friendly" (read: ad-friendly) - censorship and monetization ---* adsense revenue goes down as advertisers pull out ---* the glory days of posting whatever and making bank are over

amazingphil and ~daniel howell~

- youtube & younow content - that week in march - vacations and conventions - conjoined baking and the concept of a "soft launch" - daniel & depression → dan as a mental health advocate - truth bombs, ii announcement, rewind

(2018): the phandom vs the hiatus they told us not to worry about

interactive introverts

- "giving the people what they want" - in hindsight… - let's talk about dnp fans from the global south

youtuber burnout

- it wasn't just dan: (more examples than header fits) - the old model was simply not sustainable - newer contributing factors - research on burnout, plus personal anecdotal experience

other dan and phil content

- younow/rize lives - dan's last videos before… you know… - phil's solo content in 2018 (quiff!!) - pinof → wdapteo - the gaming channel

other stuff happening online and in the world

- youtube raises the barriers to monetization - many "pivot to video" creators are now independent - the modern youtuber's multiple streams of income - continuations of societal trends in 2016 - musical.ly becomes tiktok - notable: she-ra and the princesses of power

the hiatus™: part myth, part reality

- how long dan was actually offline - major confounder: tumblr implodes almost overnight - major confounder: perception of content density from '13-'16 - major confounder: rapidly maturing audience - major confounder: our temporal awareness is about to go way ↓↓

~ baking interlude 3: scotcheroos ~

minnesotans and their obsession with "bars"

amy has one last existential crisis (you know, to date)

(2019): demolishing the closet with a nail bat

phil videos in the first 5 months of this very important year

basically i'm gay

- my thoughts - its legacy in the canon of "coming out" stories - multiple things can be true at once

coming out to you

- my thoughts - its legacy in the canon of "coming out" stories - why phil waited (actual explanations, speculation)

amy's 2019

- return to the audience, not really to the phandom (rip tumblr) - strange coincidence that i also had a major life transition

dan and phil: still here, freshly queer

- twitter becomes the main nexus of phandom, by default - regular phil uploads + brief return to younow - vidcon

(2020): go home and stay there

so it's a goddamn global public health crisis

- infectious disease perspective - effects on overall well-being of adults - effects on kids and teenagers (sorry to all of you) - political and economic impacts

hitherto unforeseen levels of online content consumption

- tiktok replaces basically all short-form video content - yet another wave of new (otherwise unemployed) youtubers - you're watching a video essay. these got really popular now. - being young and isolated: thoughts from younger phannies

the Content™ bc that's the one word we use for this now

- phil's videos - when dan is around - that attitude magazine interview - pour one out for the phil solo project(s) the panini wrecked

further political disaster… avoided?

- checking in on the state of social issues previously discussed - unfortunately,

(2021): welcome to the 2020s, we have lingering trauma

THE PHOUSE?!?!?

- social media posts - the stereo shows

other dan and phil videos

- phil's solo videos - gay and not proud - hometown showdown - other joint videos - phil's #shorts (sounds normal in american english)

panini updates

- vaccines soon, uwu??? + entrenched misinformation - pros and cons of remote work - pros and cons of remote school - pros and cons of remote socializing

you will get through this night

- younger me really could have used this book too, dan - thoughts as a professional in a related field - reflecting on some of my more unique circumstances

daring my old school district to sue me (again!!)

- updates: racism and transphobia - updates: right-wing freaks take over the school board again - residents vote against improving mental health resources

(2022): dan returns (still not on fire)

hey so politics are um getting worse

- americans lose the right to reproductive freedom ---* the quickest of histories on where these freaks came from ---* this shit kills people. - trans kids become the punching bag of culture war discourse ---* fuck off! (gently) ---* fuck off! (i have a knife) ---* checking in on terf island

we're all doooooooooooooooomed

- dystopia daily my beloved - the style, the substance, the metatextual analysis-- - not everyone loved it, though. why? - the promo - dan on tour + sister daniel

amy's 2022

- i got covid - then i got long covid: brain fog, pots-like symptoms

some more news (i will work on my warmbo impression)

- dan joins tiktok + danisnotinteresting uploads - phil: uploading less, busy doing remote crisis management - twitter is acquired by an idiot jackass - heartstopper on netflix! ---* the show and what it means to people ---* drama (revisiting "real people can't queerbait") ---* why this has anything to do with the phandom

~ baking interlude 4: cinnamon rolls ~

- lovingly, recipe changes and corrections :) - if i have an opinion about anything, it's sweet yeasted breads

(2023): the phrenaissance

phil

- joins tiktok! - youtube uploads through september - what even is phannie tiktok. i've never used this app. help.

dystopia daily b-sides

- dan memes of 2022 - the 2023 dystopia daily episodes

amy: the doctoral candidacy process

- purgatory, privilege, poverty, and free pizza - checking in on what this is like outside the united states

pretending the panini is over

- complaining about post-adpocalypse censorship standards - honest take about "giving up" on covid - who gets the short end of the stick

the youtube algorithm is BAD and UNINTELLIGENT, actually,

- unhinged rant about not hearing about the gaming rephrival - because i was offline from other platforms. like, @amyoffline.

pov: you are a phannie (not me) on october 15th

- what i was doing on october 15th - saying goodbye forever, spooky week, and november - gamingmas - phil uploads through december

(2024): fifteen years of terrible, terrible influence

hey what the fuck is going on

- dan and phil ---* joint and phil videos ---* jokes they never would've made ten years ago ---* a collection of emotional posts about how far they've come ---* people want fun and silly content again. we'll get to why ---* nostalgia, hope, and other warm and fuzzy feelings - the phandom ---* ancient parasocial attachments, reactivated instantly ---* people are way more normal now. let's discuss why ---* tumblr vs twitter vs tiktok phandom

we're all doomed, youtube version

- my thoughts - thoughts on "dan should/shouldn't" do video essays - i can't objectively evaluate anything he makes bc [gunshots]

terrible influence tour

- legally phlonde - the concept: healing one's inner child / taking it back - we gotta talk about phannies in the global south again - no but seriously imagine it? ---*ogres are like onions, they have LAYERS ---* [placeholder for whatever does(n't) happen]

anglosphere current events once again

- the likely us tiktok ban - the tories get fired - [placeholder for whichever hell americans manifest] - witnessing genocide and feeling powerless

ffx full-circle moment to the intro of this video essay

- the night i found out they came back - why i am doing this, now with context - reflections on a nearly 15-year (parasocial) relationship

whatever youtube uploads we get during fall/december

AMY SEES TIT (nov 14)

- the vibes at the phamily reunion - buying merch to apologize for eternal ublock origin use - how much should i document?? (not during the show) - phanspiracies confirmed - atlanta confessions - favorite bits - the alternate universe where i went to tatinof and/or ii

(2025): the horrors persist, but so do we

whatever 2025 content is out while i'm still working on this

our parasocial social club

- let me be philosophytube for a second ---* every interaction has a parasocial element ---* what are we obligated to do as a phandom, actually? ---* as people who parasocially care about these two dorks? ---* what else should we be doing socially to be at our happiest? - "they're my gay uncles" vs "i'm a little in love, even now" ---* riffing about the boundary/overlap between these camps ---* sibling reads me for filth in a single text (sister daniel...) ---* at least we're all in this together

what's going to continue to draw people in

- grown adults drawing our cat whiskers back on - updates on queer/nd kids - updates on anxiety/depression rates - updates on tech and the broader environment of content - world still feels doomed

tangent - the "hard launch" and why people want it

what are people referring to, exactly

- general definition and other examples - when it comes to dan and phil - maybe they hard launched already and we just missed the memo

the ludonarrative of phandom

- if you got here early on - if you got here in the mid-2010s - if you got here after they came out - if you got here post-hiatus - final fantasy comparison: ffvii's chokehold over first-timers

a rom-com for the ages

- the tropes in play - brief tangent on the evolution of the genre - queer romantic comedies - final fantasy comparison: ffviii's plot and squall/rinoa

phriends… or…

- wholesome influence, slice-of-life - projection - final fantasy comparison: ffxv's gameplay loop, the chocobros

humans don't like ambiguity

- from a media perspective (narrative tension) - research from the hard sciences - final fantasy comparison: fanille ---* the first gay final fantasy characters, actually ---* ffxiii's character development process ---* fang and vanille in the text. brb, clawing at the walls ---* so, if anyone is looking for a phyuri au prompt…

tl;dr: reality is not fiction. make peace with not "knowing"

end tangent, back to your regularly scheduled programming

the phuture

- phil's big solo project when??? - dapg is just the joint channel now - youtube has changed since when dan last "regularly" uploaded - nothing lasts forever, and that's okay

~ baking interlude 5: ranch + pizza ~

- ranch propaganda and ranch metaphors - showing off my dough and sauce skills

conclusions

- a lot has happened in 15 years - [placeholders: don't write your conclusions before you do your research]

Proof this project can only be done in consultation with Tumblr: no other platform we're on could accommodate a post of this length and formatting detail lol

[phanfictioncatalogue]

Sharing A Bed (4) Masterlist

part one, part two, part three

As He Goes, So I Go (ao3) - cloej88

Summary: It’s November of 2015, and Dan and Phil have just finished their UK leg of The Amazing Tour Is Not on Fire. They’ve sworn off the romantic side of their relationship in order to protect the rest of this life they’ve built. However, with all of the close proximity of touring, their connection feels headier and more charged than ever. As soon as the UK tour ends, they fly to the US for a quick book-signing trip, but they become snowed in by a blizzard in Chicago. In the solitude of their shared hotel room, can they fumble their way back to one another?

Featuring: Pining, lots of fluff, the TATINOF UK afterparty in all its glory, an arcade bar in snowy Chicago, a NYTimes How to Fall in Love quiz, lots of introspective musing about how much these idiots adore one another, and some well-earned smut.

dear to the heart (ao3) - dontcrydraft

Summary: Dan and Phil meet each other in real life for the first time, and they end their first day together by watching a movie on Phil's couch. Except Dan gets a bit too comfortable and falls asleep.

for your eyes only (ao3) - blossomsphan

Summary: and they were roommates

(the fluffy tatinof bed sharing fic no one asked for in 2024… or did they?)

Honey (ao3) - p4stmybedtime

Summary: ““Morning, bear” Phil murmured softly, before nuzzling his nose into the crook of Dan’s neck, his delicate lashes tickling the sensitive skin there. He shifted back down and rubbed his pink cheek against Dan’s chest, before lying still and exhaling calmly.”

Or: Just some soft morning cuddles. They’re in love.

i thought that i was dreaming (ao3) - twoheadlights (fizzfic)

Summary: Dan and Phil and the beds they've shared. Basically.

milagros (ao3) - bloodyscarab

Summary: a conversation in the dark. before bed.

because that's when all the most authentic conversations take place.

oh, baby, seasons change (ao3) - antiadvil

Summary: dnp sharing a bed in 2010 x them sharing a bed now :3

On Tour Bus Beds (ao3) - katiecal1013

Summary: “Best buddies can share a bed!” - Phil Lester, 2024

our love keeps the things it finds (ao3) - dbg_708

Summary: The minutes they spent at the top of Manchester, when he first saw Dan in a train station, looking at him out of breath and sweaty in front of hundreds of people, giving him flowers when he was finally coming back home, and kissing him silly in their kitchen all reside in the same crook of his heart: unrelated to and away from his aches and pains.

Rock, Paper, Scissors! (ao3) - xXspencerXx

Summary: Dan and Phil realise they have to share a bed during the american leg of their TATINOF tour.

Safe With Me (ao3) - Sillylittleroomba

Summary: Dan and Phil have always had two bedrooms, but that doesn't mean much.

Or: Phil can't sleep on the first night back home during their break from tour. Dan is always the solution to this problem.

A frankly irresponsible amount of domestic fluff, set January 2025.

what would you do (if they never found us out) (ao3) - weuspronouns

Summary: It's Vidcon 2015 and Phil checks out after two drinks. Despite it going against their every rule, a tipsy Dan decides to visit his hotel room anyway.

wouldn't it be nice (ao3) - possumdnp

Summary: Four conversations Dan and Phil have in their tour bus beds over the years.

[danhowellz]

whats the 2015 japhan bedgate lol

okay so excuse the very vague details i couldn't find any posts from the time given it was in 2015 lol but it was basically your classic "there was only one bed" theory that people were discussing after the japan vlog was posted.

i'll add some screenshots here an you can deduce for yourself:

i think we decided it was 2 beds pushed close together which i have seen hotels do but i guess we'll never know but what is important is the context of the time and how INSANE this was. bear in mind they'd just announced tatinof/tabinof out of nowhere and then dropped in a liveshow so casually that they were about to go on their dream holiday to japan.

the demon phannie theories were rising at an increasing pace like this truly was The year of the demon phannie and then seeing stuff like this only heightened peoples theorising. like there was so much that came out of this. and this only increased when they went to vidcon/playlist live like it was just the norm to watch any snippet of a vlog we got where we might have seen their bedroom to see if there was one bed or two like it was all part of the fun.

i wanna add onto the end too lol (this has nothing to do with sharing a bed) but the theories that went round at the time that they were holding hands in this clip:

like it was INSANE everyone was convinced they were holding hands and even i was too before rewatching to get these screenshots only to realise phil is just holding a bag ??? which makes it look like hes holding dan's hand

anyway thats japan bedgate. maybe i blew this out of proportion but i was there at the time and i remember seeing so many tweets and posts about it.

[sleepyslag]

Packing like I'm going to Vidcon in 2015 tbh :/

[vlogbrothershistory]

April 24 in Vlogbrothers History

2007: Brotherhood 2.0: April 24: Moving

2008: Pills Pills Pills

2010: VidCon: User Generated Conference

2012: Beneath an Abandoned Hospital: Thoughts from Places

2015: Mother Pheasant Plucker - A Song

2018: This Video is about Red Eyed Tree Frogs?

2020: The Sharpest Tool in the Shed

[thisdayindnphistory]

This Day in Dan & Phil History - June 23

2010 - Dan uploads Stalker Prank Call (which is now deleted but can be viewed here!)

2012 - gay ass liveshow from VEGAS

2013 - omfg

2015 - phorse at their holiday in Isle of Man

his comedy was so ahead of its time

2016 - TATINOF wraps up in the US at Dolby Theatre in Hollywood 🥹

featuring the KING OF VINE Thomas Sanders omfg

oh to be at this afterparty

2017 - Vidcon era

so gay

oh if only they knew what was coming

2018 - fucking fortnite wtf

[fredseibertdotcom]

Behold, the king of online cartoons

Ex-Hanna-Barbera whiz Fred Seibert blazing a trail with YouTube network

A couple of times over the years, then-USA Today’s entertainment and tech reporter (and photographer) Jefferson Graham was nice enough to feature me in an article about the cartoons I was producing. First time was in the late 90s with “Oh Yeah! Cartoons,” but in 2015, with streaming video finally reaching the mainstream press (Channel Frederator actually started in 2005) and Graham’s animator son joining our network, he revisited.

Thanks to animator Michael Hilliger, who sent over his copy of the article in 2024.

By Jefferson Graham USA Today July 17, 2015

LOS ANGELES — Fred Seibert wants you to have his card.

And his phone number. He even won't mind if we print his fred@frederator.com e-mail address right here in USA TODAY.

Seibert, 63 is the online toon king, with 400 million views monthly to his Channel Frederator network on YouTube, but he's never sure where his next hit will come from.

So he's always out there looking, at schools, industry gatherings, book signings. You name it.

Next weekend, he'll be at the Vidcon convention near Los Angeles, a gathering of folks who make their living off YouTube, which is where most folks see his online `toons.

"I have no ideas," he says. "But I recognize talent."

That's for sure. Seibert, then president of Hanna-Barbera's cartoon studios in the 1990s, is credited with discovering Seth MacFarlane, the creator of the Family Guy, fresh from college, when he hired him to work on Hanna-Barbera cartoons.

For Seibert's "What a Cartoon!" series for the Cartoon Network, Seibert hit ratings gold, signing up the creators who churned out hits like "The Powerpuff Girls," "Dexter's Laboratory" and "Johnny Bravo." Their series debuted as shorts for first for Seibert's series.

He still serves as executive producer of "The Fairly OddParents," a TV series he began producing in 1998 when it debuted on his "Oh Yeah, Cartoons," series. It's been running ever since on Nickelodeon.

Seibert's biggest audiences, however, have come from online, to the tune of some 1.9 billion views for 'toons like the Bee and PuppyCat and Bravest Warriors.

We had Seibert as a guest on our #TalkingTech podcast in June. At the time, he was averaging 300 million monthly viewers to the Channel Frederator network. Now he's already up to 400 million monthly viewers, and predicts he'll top 700 million by year's end, and 1 billion by 2016.

The reason for the massive growth is that unlike before, when animation was targeted just to young kids, either for Saturday morning TV, and kid-based cartoon TV channels, anyone of all ages can view `toons online.

Seibert's Cartoon Hangover, a Frederator section where he shows the best of his `toons, bills itself as the channel for "cartoons that are too weird, wild, and crazy for television."

“Bee and PuppyCat,” about a young woman with a hybrid dog-cat, is written by Natasha Allegri, a woman in her 20s, about a character in her 20s, and thus, obviously not targeted to the traditional animation crowd.

"No matter what your interest online — whether it be anime, or science fiction or comedy cartoons, there is a place for you," Seibert says. "TV has a tough time supporting the sub-genres. Online is all about sub-genre."

Channel Frederator is what's known as a multi-channel network. Cartoons run on YouTube, but his network promotes them, sells ads and distributes the proceeds to some 2,000 of his video makers.

Through Frederator, the channel makers learn about which color to make their thumbnails to find larger YouTube audiences (he recommends yellow) and which keywords to use in the descriptions ("funny" always works, he says.)

"We give them the tools to grow their performance," he says.

Dominic Panganiban, a 24-year-old animator from Toronto, joined the Frederator network in November, and has seen his subscriber base grow ten times since.

He had been working with Full Screen, another multi-channel network that works with YouTube creators to help them monetize their videos and attract larger audiences.

"Frederator was a better fit, because they cater more towards animation channels," Panganiban says. Because Frederator attracts folks who enjoy cartoons, "I have more potential here."

By being part of the Frederator network, Australian animator Sam Green says he's learned about how to better promote his cartoons, and gotten access to a database of free music and sound effects to use in his cartoons.

He too has seen a spike in traffic.

Being with Seibert "helped me move from my mother's garage to affording my own apartment in the big city," he says.

How did the traffic for both creators go up so dramatically?

Seibert promoted the cartoons to his audience. With 2,000 cartoon makers, that's a lot to choose from. He says he'll plug as many of them as "show an interest" to growing their audience. He looks for people who post new work regularly, stay in touch, and ask "what we can do to help them more."

And despite the massive online audience, Seibert isn't making money yet, and doesn't think he will for another three years. 

"Our cartoons are 3-4 minutes long, and the average American watches 6 hours of TV a day," he says. "We have a long way to go to even that out."

Photography by Jefferson Graham, July 2015

[onenettvchannel]

LATE-BREAKING NEWS: American YouTube Star 'Motionwarrior' evicted her home in New York, became homelessness and permanently leaves their YouTube channel [#K5NewsFMExclusive]

(Written by Rhayniel Saldasal Calimpong / Freelanced News Writer, Online Media Reporter and News Presenter of OneNETnews)

MANHASSET, NEW YORK -- A YouTube content creator named 'Motionwarrior', whose real name as Ms. Rachel, hailing from Port Washington in New York was unjustly evicted last month, where she is now became homeless, because of her mental health, severe financial constraints, college difficulties that forced to be voluntarily dropped out, and completely rejected for having a job in her own state of America.

Her friends in high school & college combined, as well with families are all in part ways to lose contact from their personal life and internet circle, feeling alone and unable to understand why their inactivity happened, or need for time to realign themselves led to friendships ending.

Ms. Rachel, known online as 'Motionwarrior' is a 23 y/o female American YouTuber and self-freelanced animator. Her content on YouTube sparked nearly 200,000 subscribers, after she was first joined on this video-sharing platform in the late mid-June 2015. She occasionally focuses on content related to video games, animation and storytelling. It covers various topics, including relatable experiences, her school life and more.

But that's not all, her potential earnings in statistics according to SocialBlade are for annual earnings generate nearly between U$D600 to U$D9,500 (or PHP35,100 to PHP554,758). It is unclear if she was a legitimate member for monetization of the YouTube Partner Programme (YPP). She was taking a break from her own YouTube channel, after the previously uploaded "Stealing My Mom's Credit Card 2" a few years back in late August 2020, but this came out very unexpectedly. Rachel quit her video-sharing platform permanently.

Rachel talks about what they have gone through with their YouTube channel when her videos not reaching their typical online viewers, subscribers complaining that they aren't seeing uploads in their feeds, and self-criticism regarding their content that was yet to have possibly been shadowbanned on its search results. They mention becoming overly critical of their videos and developing an unhealthy means of self-discipline, leading to immense self-hatred and a belief that their efforts were not enough.

For years, the Coronavirus Disease-19 (CoViD-19) affecting New Yorkers including herself -- confirmed positive during the global pandemic days. But today, however, in a final video uploaded on Saturday (July 6th, 2024), Rachel discusses the intense incidents and situations they faced while attending her college and commuting in New York, leading to issues in their personal life and family unraveling into chaos and brokenness due to mental health concerns. Comparing to 'VidCon' at the Anaheim Convention Center in California, previously on the early mid-July 2019, added into pressure to perform better on YouTube and being forced to attend college despite financial constraints.

Last month on Thursday (June 13th, 2024)… Her image, family and personality of YouTube have reportedly evicted and became homeless, paying the last ounce of a local hotel room while trying to seek help personally online or facing suicide in advance. Theoratically, Rachel needs to change strategies and self re-training by trying make something new to viewers without criticizing her negativity in mental health. It is their way of humbly and shamefully pleading for assistance to support her family at this trying moment.

Wrapping of her final video uploaded on YouTube, Rachel setting up her own GoFundMe page and pitching for donations of U$D859,000 (or nearly PHP50.2M). Minimum donations starts at U$D5 and up. Since 'Motionwarrior' cannot afford to attend 'VidCon' events and other several reasons today, you can be part of it with your support to donate via the GoFundMe website.

Life goes hard about money, her dream job but later rejected, and brazenly call it quits on her YouTube channel… The reality is to keep trying what is best until you succeed, rather failing to yourself to attract new audiences. One day, 'Motionwarrior' will soon become popular if she is eligible to collab other YouTubers like 'JaidenAnimations', 'Saberspark' and among others, once she is yet to recover her personal life when pursuing her dreams by choosing the right paths to the future.

CONTRIBUTED PHOTO COURTESY via GoFundMe BACKGROUND PROVIDED BY: Tegna

EDITOR's NOTE from Rhayniel: If you're reading this Motionwarrior, in my Tagalog dialect… Huwag mawalan ng pag-asa para dito. Laban lang!

SOURCE: *https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-secure-a-home-for-family-unjustly-evicted *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIFL5AIi5_8 [Referenced YT VIDEO via Motionwarrior] *https://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/motionwarrior.html and *https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCptTTLvJDQjVLVTSw-tVrxw/

-- OneNETnews Online Publication Team

[smoshgoshbefosh]

june 21 for uploaded videos pls 🥰🥰🥰

I think?? This is the first one I've done in June. Potentially.

But also. Your birthday in 2006? ICONIC BRO. And your birthday in 2023 was one day after the announcement.

What Smosh Videos were Posted on Your Birthday?

2006:

Boxman- Smosh Main

2007:

No videos uploaded June 21

2008:

No videos uploaded June 21

2009:

No videos uploaded June 21

2010:

MILFs Like Terrorists?!- Smosh Pit

2011:

No videos uploaded June 21

2012:

I Lick Turtles- Smosh Pit

2013:

My Friends Hot Sister- Smosh Main

Top 5 Games That Need to be a Web Series- Smosh Games

Shooting Balls in the Hoops (Game Bang)- Smosh Games

2014:

Bishes Better Werk, Bish- Smosh Pit

Portal (Honest Game Trailers)- Smosh Games (All Honest Game Trailers were recently deleted)

Top 5 Anti Heroes in Games- Smosh Games

2015:

Best E3 Ever (Bonus)- Smosh Games

2016:

Uncharted 4 (Honest Game Trailers)- Smosh Games (All Honest Game Trailers were recently deleted)

2017:

Secret Hitler (Smosh Games Live)- Smosh Games

2018:

The Worst Product Jingles (Squad Vlogs)- Smosh Pit

2019:

Mario Kart Drinking Game w/The Try Guys (Gaming with A Twist)- Smosh Games

Olivia's Bald Spot and How Defy Forced us To Be Friends (Smoshcast #18)- Smoshcast

2020:

No videos uploaded June 21

2021:

Every yearbook ever- Smosh Main

2022:

Try Not to Laugh Challenge #97 (Blind Pairs)- Smosh Pit

Can You Guess the A.I. Generated Image?- Smosh Games

2023:

Smosh Merch is Available at the Youtube Drop Shop @ Vidcon- Smosh Main

The WRONG Way to Play Zelda...- Smosh Games

[ahappydnp]

hi! do you remember any instances when dan talked about running but in a more casual way? so maybe like a liveshow / twitter and not the vidcon video. i remember only the photo with ugh fml sneakers but maybe he's mentioned it since. thanks in advance <зз

(hopefully it gets better at work! sending all the vibes)

yes! it was a whole thing! he said he wanted to take up running in the festive ditl and then in january 2015 the phandom made the hashtag #runwithdan where people would go for a jog every time dan went for a run (him talking about it on younow)

they posted this in january as well during their SIM card 'control our day' spon

phil joined him a couple times but said it was boring because they couldn't talk to each other while jogging

the dan runner era lasted about a month

[alittledizzy]

How'd you get into phan?

The tl;dr is that i 2012 I saw a Dan video and thought it was hilarious, so I watched his livestreams. I didn't like his sense of humor and thought he was homophobic af so I just wrote him (and Phil) off until 2015. In my mind they were just like Caspar and Joe, straight roomies baiting their relationship for content because they found it funny/profitable.

In 2015, I kept seeing them in the background of people's vlogs at Vidcon, since I watched a lot of other vloggers at that point. Somehow they must have just kind of incepted themselves into my head because I had a dream about them cuddling? So the next day I googled them to see what they were up to and I came across the Guru Gossiper threads about them. I read those from page one to what was then current day, then I found the phan timeline and read it start to finish.

Then I decided I'd actually watch some of their content, and my fate was sealed.