#WTF Dorian

[emiliawritings]

Keiran had been a child when the war that would soon be known as The Divine Massacre ended.

Worth The Fight's Prologue, posted separately from the rest of the story.

[emi-writings]

wtf mumza and phil? considering their potential in fanfics im very curious what part they play in the story/lore of worth the fight

I honestly don't entirely know how to answer this without spoiling... a lot of WTF's story...

One of these days I'm going to have to write down an entire lore doc or something for WTF, because... I need to explain things. But Camilla and Dorian's relationship... well, let's just say even when Dorian and Camilla aren't there, they are having some kind of influence on the story...

[ravenlocksentwisted]

Why do the American localizations keep trying to remove the queer relationships by adding incest?

Tell me I'm wrong, Netflix. Tell me there won't be some WEIRD VIBES because you wanted to remove the queer subtext from the 2024 adaptation of a book that was effectively used as legal evidence in the 1895 trials against the author for gross indecency (i.e., homosexual activity).

[yours-truly-alcide]

Fuck you

*ungays your favourite book and one of the greatest works of classic queer litterature by making two characters that have homoerotic tension so thick you could cut it with a knife SIBLINGS*

[starmaker-astral]

Back then, the world censored Oscar Wilde's "The picture of Dorian Gray", now Netflix managed to censor it even MORE (and its horrible)

💀💀💀

I hate Netflix even more now.

What do you mean some people will will discover Dorian Grey with this show and believe Dorian and Basil were BROTHERS ????

Im going feral

[ghxst-system]

NETFLIX IS ADAPTING DORIAN GRAY?

AND ERASING EVERYTHING QUEER?

he painted such a beautiful portrait that captured dorians PERSONALITY and BEAUTY and SELF ABSORBED ASSHOLERY so well that it was fucking magic... and ur making him HIS BROTHER? when he saw every beautiful detail in dorians face as well as every disgusting flaw in his personality? HOW IS THAT MAN HIS BROTHER?

ur doing this... to OSCAR FUCKING WILDE????

TO OSCAR. WILDE.

[justastrugglinghotchocolate]

10 things Henry Wotton does that scare and confuse me

Does not engage with Dorian’s antisemitism

To paraphrase MandaloreGaming, “[Henry] not being [antisemitic and/or] racist feels almost like a plot hole.”

In fact, Henry is the only one to treat Sybil’s manager like a human being.

“Lord Henry, upon the other hand, rather liked him. At least he declared he did, and insisted on shaking him by the hand and assuring him that he was proud to meet a man who had discovered a real genius and gone bankrupt over a poet.”

This isn’t even him being mocking, we have seen that Henry doesn’t mock in such an involved way—he prefers to talk shit afterwards (not counting Basil :( ).

Says a ton of misogynistic shit, but never takes a misogynistic action

You would expect a guy as supposedly misogynistic as Henry to be offended and insult every woman who argues against him, but he just talks with them and genuinely takes them seriously. He tries to convince them of his ideas, but if they don’t believe him, he doesn’t push it.

Implied to have close relationships with sister and his aunt.

Gwendolyn is the only sibling that is named and that is because she is the only one he makes a point to hang out with.

Same with Aunt Agatha.

Is possibly implied to have gotten at least a bit annoyed with Dorian sleeping with Gwendolyn (his sister). *this is based off the way Dorian reacts after Basil brings it up. Considering that entire moment was added in the 1891 ver, it’s certainly interesting, but nothing definitive, so take this with a grain of salt!

Has a decent relationship with his wife

Based on the fact Victoria was able to divorce him at all, he respected her enough to not put up a legal fight (divorce in England was difficult as fuck because women essentially became property to their husbands. They didn’t own anything and couldn’t even bring up a case without a man doing so. The fact Victoria was able to do so and the fact no other family members are mentioned, implies he brought the case to court for her, thus making the divorce process much easier than it ever would have been)

Always involves the women who enter discussions with him. 

He never once objects to them out nor insults them or makes them feel inferior or otherwise unwelcome. Constantly, he cheekily, but genuinely, suggests that the women he speaks with should have their own ‘fun’ regardless of the scandal involved. Recall that Victorian society characterized women as only valuable as wives and less than human. Henry is actively inviting women to be just as bad as men, thus seeing them at the same level as men. 

More so, in chapter 17, his banter with the duchess is not done so mockingly. Like his early conversations with Basil, Henry entertains and elaborates on her ideas, never once dismissing her. Even when he points out things she’s gotten wrong in his perspective, he does so playfully, which we actually haven’t seen him do with anyone except for Basil.

The entire scene with the Duchess of Monmouth in chapter 18. 

Henry is strangely gentle and compassionate with her in a way we have never seen him be with anyone (even Dorian!). He is genuine with her in a way that is comforting, he compliments her, makes her laugh, and, weirdly, warns her not to enter a scandal.

Owns a parrot.

Is pretty accurate on the importance of youth in society

Ever since the 1960s, youth culture has absolutely dominated social norms

The concept of teenagers and childhood were created because companies realized they could sell shit to you.

Is constantly criticizing marriage because of how it limits relationships between the men and women involved. 

This is novel because marriage was an expectation of Victorian Society, especially for someone in Henry’s class. The fact he actively despises it and recommends against it would be one of the many many things that would paint him as amoral to everyone else.

“the one charm of marriage is that it makes a life of deception absolutely necessary for both parties.”

“there are other and more interesting bonds between men and women. I will certainly encourage them.”

 Disclaimer: this is headcanon: Would probably say, “I’m going to live forever” and immediately get hit by a bus.

I don’t have evidence for this, it just feels right.

Bibliography because I reference historical shit and hbomberguy has reawakened the fear of accidentally plagiarizing i have had since i was six (but i am not doing this in some college style, because ewww)

MandaloreGaming: Anonymous Agony: An Extra Edgy Adventure Game

Shanspeare: Life Doesn’t End in Your 20s: The Myth of the Teenage Dream (for the childhood part)

Mary Lyndon Shanley: Feminism, Marriage, and the Law in Victorian England, 1850-1895 (for the divorce part)

[finncakes]

A Dance of Deception🎭✨️

based of J.C. Leyendecker's advertisment for Arrow (under the cut)

[bookholichany]

AU: the Ghost of Oscar Wilde will go to the Dbda and ask them to haunt Netflix until this abomination they made of his masterpiece is out of the picture.

[pocketgalaxies]

"she doesn't know."

"who's she? you're she!"

"am i?"

"are you?"

"are you?"

[turniptitaness]

Ah, yes, I, a talented yet underappreciated artist, shall now paint a portrait where each detail is so carefully and lovingly recorded that the completed painting has the power to steal the subject's soul and keep him forever young and beautiful.

And the subject shall be...

Why, my brother, of course, because there is nothing at all weird about that!

[astersghost]

I had the absolute joy of meeting Robbie Daymond yesterday @MomoCon and it was probably the best decision made all con 😭💕 I was stupid nervous but I did beat him in rollies and I am so very glad I got to meet him and that he got to come to atl !

[emi-writings]

WTF Philza

Dorian claims to be a harpy, but it would be extremely hard to find anyone who isn't suspicious about that. He is the father of Selena and Soleil, and he's been around for a while - he seems to know a lot. He's a sharpshooter and he's somewhat detached from most conflicts.

[josiwonderland]

Excuse me, this armor with ropes? Pardon me?

[maddyshome]

Ok so a lot of yall are pissed off by my critique of The Coffin of Andy and Leyley. Some of you who have read my posts (mostly the incest proshippers) think I am sensible to mature subjects so my critique is just based on the fact I'm against the ship between Andrew and Ashley.

I am really not sensible to mature subjects. Fear & Hunger is one of my recent fav games.

The themes present in Fear & Hunger are muchhhh worse than twisted incest. Trust me. Or I guess you can check out the game if you can't trust me. There is cannibalism, csa, sa etc. A lot of bad things are happening there.

I dislike The Coffin of Andy and Leyley because its meaningless and boring. There is nothing complex or complicated in this game. The story is simple. The world is underdeveloped and everything in this game is about Andrew and Ashley. That gets boring very fast.

I am against shipping Andrew and Ashley and I do think (with proof mind you) that it is UNNECESSARILY fetishizing the incest aspect of the game. But the fact that their society is literally nonexistent because we barely have any details is still true.

Miro doesn't really "hide" the gruesome themes in his games. In fact there is a scene in the first Fear & Hunger game where your character gets SA.

The difference is that one game has a developed culture, religion, characters. And the other game is just repeating itself.

[sophiejanefostersilver]

rereading the picture of dorian gray

I forgot how much I love this book and how much I hate Henry