Ok I’m asking this question in the most polite way I can. I’m very very new to the fandom and just the Beatles in general and I just have to know the pure truth on John and Cynthia. Any time John is ever posted on anywhere, like TikTok, insta, ect, people are always flooding the comments saying John beat his wife and kid. Why is that such a popular belief when that didn’t happen? I know he slapped her once or something but people are alway saying it and I just want to know why if it’s not true. Again I’m asking this in the most respectful manner I can. Thank you !
Hello nonny!
I can tell this is an important and emotive question for you, and I hope I can respond in a way that is helpful to you without avoiding the truth.
I don't like the way that John's violence is often discussed---people do like to make complicated things out to be simple---but we can't avoid the fact that John was a violent man. He said it himself [1], Cynthia said it [2], May said it [3], Yoko sat next to him while he said it and she didn't deny it [4].
In her 2005 book, Cynthia claimed he only ever hit her once [5], but four decades earlier she told Hunter Davies a different story [6]. The way I interpret this inconsistency is some combination of personal revisionism (as we all do when we look back on our lives) and choosing a particular version of John to publicly remember after his death.
So what are we to do with this knowledge? This may be controversial of me, but I don't believe in dividing the world into Abusers [irredeemable] and Non-abusers [decent].
If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?
-- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
John was violent, yes, but he also recognised that about himself and worked on changing. None of the Beatles were (or are) pure, and as fans we each need to decide for ourselves how much we engage with that reality, and how it affects our relationships with them and their work.
It's also worth noting that John was a notorious revisionist himself, and that whatever he said later, he really did love Cyn.
[1] "I used to be cruel to my woman, and physically — any woman. I was a hitter. I couldn’t express myself and I hit. I fought men and I hit women."
--- John discussing the song Getting Better in an interview with Playboy 1980
[2] "Molly, the cleaning woman, once caught John hitting me, really clouting me. She said I was a silly girl, to get mixed up with someone like that."
--- Cynthia to Hunter Davies in the official biography (chapter 7)
[3] "He was drunk and looked very confused. Slowly he reached out, put his hands to my throat, and began to strangle me. As his hands closed tighter I screamed out and I tried to pull away, but he was incredibly strong."
--- May Pang in her book Loving John (chapter 14)
[4] https://amoralto.tumblr.com/post/46083471661/september-5th-1971-st-regis-hotel-new-york-in#notes
[5] "The next day at college he followed me to the girls' loos (toilets) in the basement. When I came out he was waiting with a dark look on his face. Before I could speak he raised his arm and hit me across the face, knocking my head into the pipes that ran down the wall behind me,". She goes on to claim that John promised never to hit her again and he kept that promise.
[6] See note 2 above. These don't sound to me like they could be the same incident.
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The Dirty Mac: a supergroup that lasted only one evening
So, meet the British supergroup The Dirty Mac! And here are the participants:
John Lennon (vocals, rhythm guitar)
Eric Clapton (lead guitar)
Keith Richards (bass guitar)
Mitch Mitchell (drums)
The really cool supergroup is The Dirty Mac, with Eric Clapton, John Lennon, Mitch Mitchell and Keith Richards, 1968
The figures of The Beatles, Cream, The Rolling Stones and The Jimi Hendrix Experience gathered in one group at the same time! Probably, The Dirty Mac is the most stellar supergroup in the history of rock. But why did it last so little?
The fact is that The Dirty Mac musicians initially did not expect to continue their joint activities. This supergroup was formed specifically for the sake of a single performance at the famous Rock and Roll Circus Rolling Stones show on December 11, 1968. In addition to The Dirty Mac, they also performed on this show The Rolling Stones, and The Who, Jethro Tull, Marianne Faithfull and Taj Mahal. It turned out to be a real extravaganza, the footage of which can be seen in a small trailer:
The newly formed supergroup John Lennon and Mick Jagger, the main inspirer of The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus. After chatting sweetly for about a minute, they finally introduced all the musicians (Lennon introduced himself as "Winston Leg-Hip"), and The Dirty Mac took the stage. The most unusual thing was probably to see Keith Richards was behind the bass, but apparently they trusted him more in terms of soloing on the electric guitar Eric Clapton.
The Dirty Mac's "leader" John Lennon's song "Yer Blues" from The Beatles' just-released "White Album" was chosen for performance. It sounded dirty and depressing on the record, so when performed by The Dirty Mac it turned out to be appropriate - heavy and very powerful. So the word "Dirty" in the band's name comes in handy here. (Curiously, the prefix "Mac" was also chosen by John Lennon not by chance, but by analogy with the famous Fleetwood Mac band).
Then several other members joined the supergroup: an Israeli violinist Ivry Gitlis and Yoko Ono, with whom the song "Whole Lotta Love Yoko" was performed. A video image of this action can probably be found only in the full version of the "Rock and Roll Circus", which is not freely available, so we will be content with only an audio recording and let our imagination run wild.
Thus, The Dirty Mac actually functioned for less than one day, ceasing to exist simultaneously with the completion of the filming of "Rock and Roll Circus".
At that moment, each of its participants was going through a difficult but turning point in their lives.
Less than a month ago, another supergroup Cream broke up, and Eric Clapton went free swimming. A little later, he and Ginger Baker will join another supergroup, Blind Faith, which will last even less afloat.
The Jimi Hendrix Experience was also on the verge of collapse. Soon the bass player will finally leave it Noel Redding, and Mitch Mitchell will continue to play with Hendrix in other bands.
Only one Keith Richards held firm in The Rolling Stones, even though they were about to get into trouble. The guitarist felt worse and worse Brian Jones: Very soon he would leave the band, and in July 1969 he would be found dead in his own pool. The Rock and Roll Circus show is his last performance with The Rolling Stones.
The Beatles were not doing better either - their joint career was also gradually declining.
Therefore, the performance of these four great musicians for a few hours is a kind of creative outburst against the background of the ocean of raging passions in their lives, short, but bright and memorable.
Before the start of filming, when asked which guitar amp he wants to use, John Lennon replied: "The one who will play." And The Dirty Mac played. With just a few strokes, demonstrating to the world the full power of rock and roll and making history in a few minutes.
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Originally from the website http://thebeatlesinthenews.blogspot.com/2016/09/john-lennon-camera-press-newswire-press.html . And this photo was take on July, 1968 by Stefan Tyszko.
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