#actually that theory makes a lot of sense

[iri-desky]

So I'm jumping on the bandwagon. For anybody who's making fics, here are my best guesses as to who the "parents" of each of the petri dish children are in Karma.

Before I start, I want to clarify here that, judging by the way that these kids were made, every child is the product of one male character and one female character. So, unfortunately, no Mizisua kids or ivantill kids, or anything else in between.

From left to right (in the scene itself):

Hyuna/Till - They definitely have Hyuna's hair, but those sharp eyes and teal irises are 100% Till's. They also look to have a bit of Hyuna's face shape.

Sua/Till or Mizi/Till? - Okay, work with me here. This is the hardest one for me to figure out. I've seen a lot of people argue that this is actually a Mizi/Till child. In total honesty, I'm not too sure myself--if the theories about how every child corresponds to a cover are right, then this is 100% a Mizi/Till kid. Sua never covered a Till song, and vice versa, but Mizi and Till did have an UTTE cover together. But from appearance alone, I'd assume this is a Sua/Till child. The choppy and thin hair consistency mixed with the silver hair really signifies a mix of Sua and Till to me--however, I could definitely be wrong. Unlike all the other kids, this little one isn't showing their eyes, making it harder to tell what genes they have. I'll reluctantly say that this is most likely a Mizi/Till child, but unless Vivimeng releases a comic or something that gives us a better look at the kids, I'll never be sure.

Mizi/Ivan - They're 100% a Mizi/Ivan kid. The pink hair is obviously mizi, and those dark eyes with the red irises are characteristic of Ivan. It's kind of a no-brainer.

Luka/Hyuna (and maybe Sua?) - This kid is, at first glance, very very clearly a mix of Luka--the tan skin is obviously Hyuna's, and other than that, the kid is basically a carbon copy of Luka. That said, their eyes are notably more akin to Sua's than Hyuna or Luka's. I checked the footage to see if there was another angle, assuming that this was just a lighting issue and the purple-ish tone was actually something like Hyuna's grey eyes reflecting in the light, but this kid undoubtedly has purple-ish eyes. Again, if the cover-kid theory is right, then this would make sense--ROMH was sung by Luka, Hyuna, and Sua, and this kid is definitely a mix of the three. How the aliens pulled that off? Don't ask me.

Luka/Sua - The second easiest one (the first being the Ivanmizi kid), in my opinion. They're very short, like both Luka and Sua, and have Sua's hair consistency with Luka's golden eyes. Very clearly Luka and Sua mashed together. They even have the same passive expression.

And thats the most detailed breakdown I can give you. I know I sent out a post confidently claiming that the silver-haired kid was a SuaTill child earlier today, though I took another look and am definitely reevaluating myself...Either way, hope this was a helpful read, and happy fanficking!

P.S. please, I need more single dad Till content.

[orengejoshi]

HI I hope this doesn't come across as weird in anyway but I've had this question for a while(a few days) and you seemed like you'd know the answer. Also because I have adhd and cannot stfu, there's a TL;DR at the end

so I'm relatively new to Villainous (watched it in 2022) and even more new to the fandom (literally started looking at it a week ago because i've hyperfixated on it rewatching) and I'm asking you specifically this question as you appear like a very good and well informed Flug fan. Again, hope this doesn't come across as fucking bizzarre, I just know, like, 3 Villainous accounts on here.

Anyway. I keep seeing a lot of people in the fandom saying that it was confirmed that Blackhat makes Flug wear the bag. Now. I'm not saying I can't get behind that, but do you appen to know WHERE was it confirmed exactly ?

I can believe that I'm just...somehow skeptical because 1-he pretty much throws a jab at Flug for wearing it in the Rhyboflavin orientation video and if that's true WHY would you do that if he has to because of YOU. Okay I mean it would make perfect sense if he did that just to be a dick but still idk I HOPE THIS IS NOT COMING ACROSS AS ME TRYING TO ACT AS IF I KNOW BEST THAN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS,,,i just like to ramble. 2-in the Blackhat ask.fm someone asked him if he knows why Flug wears that and he says "Indeed I do." And I mean...if Alan Ituriel was going to confirm it outside of the show/books(or maybe he did confirm it in the books i haven't read the 2 Blackhat ones yet) why wouldn't he back then...or like hint at it. Again, not saying i dont believe it or that it wouldn't make sense even if it was true, I just don't want to BLINDLY believe it,,,not sure if any of this made sense

TL;DR : does Flug actually wear the bag because Blackhat forces him? Do you also know WHERE it was confirmed?

no don't worry, this is interesting.

so I read up on it again and had to find out that all of the info was strewn about and not just in 1 livestream. so as tedious as that is, I'm referring you to @ nightfurmoon

click the tag [# villainous livestreams] in their description, scroll all the way down and read all of the bullet points on every post there. there were crumbs to this topic in like 3 or 4 livestreams

all of this happened mostly in the 2019 livestreams. good times.

basically, Flug despises the bag apart from the fact that he appreciates the anonymity that it allows him.

other than that he is forced to wear it by Black Hat.

in Alan's words, "it's ridiculous to wear a paper bag over one's head... it was perfect for Flug. he's miserable, and what's more embarrassing than to wear a bag over your head?"

basically bullying tbh. Black Hat forces him to wear it and yet still (or probably specifically TO) humiliate him. and also there's probably some secret that he wants to keep. Black Hat has his reasons for not wanting anyone to know what Flug looks like. we're "not ready" to know yet.

Flug's face makes Black Hat sick. like he genuinely feels ill. he's also called him "cursed" before.

the theory is that Flug must be exceptionally cute and beautiful, because Black Hat hates cute and pretty things, it's disgusting to him.

I lowkey don't ever want to know what he looks like, I'm DREADING that day

[peechglaze]

I’m gonna preface this by saying I love abby as a character this is not me hating on her but the arrogance of abby and her friends always astounds me in the game and now in the show LOL. they hunted down joel for 5 years and didn’t think maybe the girl who obviously has an attachment to joel and was held down forced to watch his murder would hunt them down too? they think by letting her live she was gonna let it go? in the show much more time has passed so their surprise at seeing her makes a little more sense. but I truly don’t know what they expected after ellie was screaming at them that shes gonna kill them all. they Deeply underestimated her and them realizing that she actually WAS able to find them is kind of satisfying to me because of that.

ignore that this is literally a month later oh my god

!!! You're so so right and should actually say it louder!

Ellie was not on Abby's mind at all. I'm pretty certain that Abby doesn't even know/remember Ellie's name in the whole time they were circling one another. And when Abby realised they were getting hunted down, when she wrestled with Tommy on the pier, it never crossed her mind that Ellie could be there with him because Tommy is obviously the bigger threat to her.

She reacted quickly when Jesse ran through the door, but you can see the shock and confusion on her face when Ellie starts talking, especially when she starts mentioning her father.

Here is where I will wave around my 'Mel is cool' flag and put my theory hat on because I think out of all of the Salt Lake Crew, she was (probably) the only one to truly not underestimate Ellie. She saw her screaming and yelling and practically foaming at the mouth on the floor and agreed that they needed to tie up loose ends. Mel was really fucked up by what happened in Jackson, but even she was set on taking Ellie out because I think she really did see it. I think she saw Abby in Ellie in that moment and knew.

And it could have just been because she thought she'd go and tell everyone in Jackson. I'm sure that's what everyone else was thinking. But idk, something about the way Mel said it felt loaded.

While we're here, I also wanna talk about Abby's lines right before the switch, where she says "We/I let you live... and you wasted it". Because there's a lot of things that you can take away from this moment, but the one thing I always get stuck on is how much it sounds like Abby did Ellie a favour??

Which is so unfortunate because to maybe anyone else, letting them live could be considered one. But to Ellie 'I was meant to die there' Williams??? Abby couldn't have said or done anything worse.

[fuzy-i]

Deltarune prophecy theory (SPOILERS FOR CHAPTER 4)

Ok so, I think by now a lot of people have heard the theory that Susie wasn't meant to be one of the heroes and thus the prophecy has already been broken, but I have a different theory.

First off, as people have pointed out, it wouldn't make sense for Ralsei to still be so worried about the prophecy if he already knew it had been changed.

Second off, people have argued that the picture of the girl in the prophecy doesn't look like susie, and that it might actually be Noelle or Dess, but that doesn't track either because why wouldn't the girl have antlers then ? If Susie would be disqualified by the appearance so too would they.

Now here's my actual theory, the two most obvious differences between Susie and the girl depicted by the prophecy are the sword and the outfit (you could also argue the lack of snoot, but I think that would just be the angle of the picture). Obviously, Susie wields an axe and isn't wearing a robe, but you know who DOES have a sword ? And who DOES wear a robe, with a symbol that looks like a black heart ?

Yup, Its Kris and Ralsei respectively.

And you know what's also a topic of debate in the fandom ? The last prophecy, the one Ralsei was so scared of Susie finding. People have argued wether it's about Ralsei dying, or Kris dying.. but what if it's both ?

What if in the end, the cage will have to be destroyed for the soul to seal the final fountain for good. And with it gone, every darkener, including Ralsei, will cease to exist ?

And at last, the girl.

At last, Susie, will be the only one left.

Man, that would be fucked up right ?

[summerofofelia]

Thinking a lot about the ending of Kpop Demon Hunters. Like, the part that happens after the credits. So this rookie kpop group bursts into the scene and within a month wins hearts and minds and international kpop awards, then somehow people find themselves at a surprise concert where the Saja Boys concept has gone from bubblegum summer hit to cunty joseon dynasty demons and the special effects are INSANE like there’s giant pink flames everywhere and then Huntrix turns up out of nowhere (after having a very public breakup onstage at the international idol awards) and like… fights them? And kills them maybe? There’s this whole… special effects thing? where the leader of Saja Boys becomes a giant sword? And it ends with Huntrix levitating like a mile off the ground, I mean not actually levitating, but like, where were the wires? The harness? And Rumi has all these tattoos now?

See my theory is the girls run the story that this whole thing was an incredibly elaborate publicity stunt. Saja Boys were actually in on it with Huntrix. They were planted by Huntrix’s agency. They were never a real group, they just existed as part of the Huntrix universe. The next concept for Huntrix has to be demon hunting themed to connect with everything that happened so it makes sense.

[chloesimaginationthings]

William Afton has top tier FNAF parenting skills

[3liza]

the number of afab people replying to the pain poll going "yeah I've broken limbs and had 1st degree burns and given birth but nothing tops my menstrual pain" is so fucked up it is unbelievable. and I was right there with everyone else until I stumbled on a low dose progestin regimen that just made me stop menstruating. which I would recommend to everyone except it just doesn't work for everyone. ask your doc about it though, it won't cause permanent side effects or injury to try it out. i take norethindrone 2.5mg 2x/day. this dose has to be different for each patient to work correctly, that's just what I take. there's some research to suggest synthetic progesterone like norethindrone is carcinogenic so I'm going to look into switching. anyway i just got extremely lucky. there is seriously nothing like it. it was the worst pain I ever felt until the urology incident and frankly I think the menstrual pain was already a factor in the outcome of the urology incident

[eshithepetty]

So. Others have noted that 'aiming for the boss's gut" could mean 'filling the boss's gut', and "putting that dead meat in its place" could mean just like. Cooking steak or something. And that perhaps ENA is just misunderstanding this and thinking she'll have to kill the boss because of her prior history with violence, and that Froggy only worded it that way because that kind of wording is more familiar to her and he was imitating her ('as you say in that wacky language of yours')

So, from this, we can deduce that ENA Dream BBQ is possibly just a story about a woman experiencing microagressions and PTSD while trying to deliver a doordash order. And that's just insanely funny to me lol

[egophiliac]

the lovers, reversed

(aka I'm still freaking out about Jou)

[magical-awesome-kid]

That moment when you use your Master’s Degree in Cell and Molecular Biology and your peer-reviewed knowledge of cancer and blood biology to write out a highly accurate reason for Anime Logic…

[lonicera-caprifolium]

Body-swap theory!!

okay, just putting this all together for ease of access, since it's been spread out across several posts now--

The day after it aired I watched the ending like actually 30 times and I became fully 99.999999% certain they switched places. I was initially thinking during the kiss, cuz of how the camera angle changes, but after watching an additional 20 times a few days later, I'm personally leaning much more towards them stopping time in the instance after "no nightingales".

Before the kiss, Aziraphale is saying "nice" things about the Metatron, but his face and voice keep switching to broadcasting distress, and they make it a point to show in ep 1 that Crowley can read him just from tone of voice

As they're pulling away after the kiss, they lock eyes and "Aziraphale's" expression shifts in the teeniest tiniest way, like a confirmation glance, before they shift back (and Michael Sheen is a master, so no chance it's not on purpose)

---(Like really, go back and watch how Aziraphale's expression shifts literally *a second* before "I forgive you" cuz the change is SO minute, but entirely different emotionally.)

Also the way he moves his jaw right after he pulls his hand away from his lips, is a bit from MS's Crowley (you can see it in the very last two seconds of this vid- link)

Aziraphale's hands -stay by his sides- after that, he doesn't clasp them at all, and it's particularly noticeable while he's walking to the elevator with Metatron. The way he walks is very stiff and precise, similar to after the swap in S1.

We don't see the underside of Crowley's jacket collar after the kiss, at any point (it is for sure red at the beginning of the ep, you can see it right before he changes in Heaven)

The Bentley drives away SLOWLY, which is how Aziraphale drives, and we're specifically shown that it only plays other music for Aziraphale

the seats in the Bentley are black as it drives away. They're usually brown, and the only other time they're shown to be black is when Aziraphale drives (@picturesque-about-it broke down the times so you can see-link)

---extra pic for anyone saying it's "cuz Aziraphale is lighter"-- the seats are still brown behind Crowley when he wears white

there's people wearing yellow in -every- part of the scene showing the Bentley both before and while it drives away! (link for pics/credit)

Aziraphale's smile in the elevator looks more like MS's Crowley. It's very similar to the trial during S1, but also (link)

This also explains why they're on opposite sides than they're usually shown while the end credits roll

Extra points--

many good points made by other folks here, about cues and snakes in beehives and swap motifs throughout the season-- link

The clock! Someone mentioned how the scene is so quiet you can hear it ticking, so I watched the ending a further 50 times to double check----I need to preface this by stating, I don't think this is a working clock, mainly cuz the hands aren't 100% where they should be between the minutes and the hours, like -a person- moved them to that time manually

When they're talking, the clock is at approximately 9:25 (?, again the hour hand isn't precisely set), then they walk across the room, and kiss, and immediately after that the clock is set about 15-ish minutes later (link to timestamps)

thanks to these bts shots, we can see that the clock on the opposite side of the room registers the SAME time difference before and after the kiss (link)

the first time Aziraphale looks "towards the window", I'm petty sure he actually looks further back towards the clock, *focuses on it* as Metatron walks up to him, and then spends the ENTIRE REST OF THE EXCHANGE blocking the Metatron's view of the clock

we're shown earlier in the season that Crowley can localize his time-stopping to a certain extent, like when he stopped the doctor and the rest of the room kept going, so it is possible he only stopped everything -outside- of the bookshop

---I KNOW Neil said it's a continuity error, but he also fully said "No" about there being a season 2 just days before they announced it was already written and in production, so. Take him at his word if that's what you wanna do.

---also I DID go back and look it over, and the clock IS consistently specifically set the entire rest of the episode as far as I can see. From the shots when you have a clear view of the clock, the angels and demons enter the shop at around 6, Maggie and Nina leave at around 7, the Metatron comes in at 8-ish, Aziraphale comes back in at that approximately 9:25

(insight from someone who works in production- link)

the music right before the kiss scene is the same leitmotif (Life After Death) used when they originally started formulating the swap in season 1! (link)

the movie Stairway to Heaven (1946) is featured as a poster in both the opening credits and in Maggie's shop (link)

the climax of the film has one of the leads willing to "take the place" of the other in heaven

(they also used a time-stopping mechanic, and the chess book Gabriel tests gravity with also plays a key role in the film)

and one last mention, extra food for thought--- the season's focus on their trusting one another, their history of performing "death (and heaven/hell) defying" feats together, and how they always get the trick right when it truly counts the most

that's what I've got so far!

If I'm right, they're apart now, but are actually more together then ever, and I find that terribly exciting. (And if I'm wrong, that's okay too! I'm just here to have fun.)

I'm not particularly concerned with very specific reasoning (that's for season 3 to tell us!), but I do think this theory is extra fun cuz pretty much any of the others could be the "why" driving it.

I'm not trying to convince anyone, or put down any of the other theories, so if you're not feeling it, that's okay! I'm just sharing what clues I'm seeing, so you can check if you see them too. 💕

[paragonraptors]

for science (because im curious)

if you have more than one worldstate, pick for the one you consider your "main"/"canon" worldstate or the one you plan to use first for da4! also feel free to lay out your reasoning in the tags gushing about your dragon age runs is accepted and encouraged here.

[constelationprize]

Ok so I do have a HUGE issue with the popular theory that Ichirou/the Moriyama empire is going down in the near future and it's this:

A lot of the second half of The King's Men hinges on the fact that the Moriyamas can't be defeated. Neil can't even breathe the name while he is in FBI costudy for fear that they have an informant in the room at all times. It's heavily implied that the only reason Riko even dies is the timing of his antics, that if he did it like a while before or after Kengo's death it wouldn't be a potential loose end.

So I find it very hard to believe that these guys can be taken down in the span of less than a year since this all happens. Especially when a lot of the theories hinge on this being a plan of Neil's or Stuart's when they suggested involving Jean, when months before they introducee the FBI to the concept of Jean being involved in mafia stuff, Neil's life hinged on not even thinking about their names while in range of an FBI agent. This theory otherwise implies that in the span of July to September (between the FBI getting on the Moreau's trail and the end of TGR), the FBI have already not only figured out that their entire case is based on a lie but have made a plan of action to completely disarm them using Jean, whose knowledge of how the actual Moriyamas operate is very slim. I don't think there's precedent to believe he could even name a single person on the main branch that isn't Ichirou. The timeline on all this is simply too short. It's not even 2008 yet.

I'm not arguing for the sake of realism here. I'm arguing for the sake of not making half of The King's Men plot (if not the entire original trilogy's) useless in retrospect. The knowledge that Neil could have denounced the Moriyamas and been fine the whole time because the FBI could defeat them, actually, makes a lot of the tension in TKM null and void.

Also, is Ichirou getting arrested really a satisfying ending to the story? Kevin and Jean haven't even met the guy. He's not actually personally responsible for anything bad in their lives.

Now, I do think something fishy is going on. There's the nosy reporter, Agent Browning's cryptic remarks, the growing scrutiny on the Ravens. But I think it's way more likely that this going to be looped around to take out the second branch (maybe implying it weakens in the Moriyamas for a future downfall). And, unlike Ichirou, Tetsuji is much more of a personal villain to both Jean and Kevin. Not to mention his habits and coaching style are constantly being brought up versus Ichirou's two secohand TV appearances.

[completeoveranalysis]

[4]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

THEY DID IT

YOU ARE THE CLONE OF YOUR OWN BABY: CONFIRMED

S O M E H O W

Ps - it looks like Syaoran didn’t know! He didn’t know until now!

Maybe neither of them knew until now!

AND WHAT A SURPRISE THIS WOULD BE?

HOW DO YOU CONTEXTUALISE THIS KNOWLEDGE???

How much therapy will you need to unpack the idea that you just gave birth to the guy you’re actually a clone of who existed before you did in the past?

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAhA

Clamp I love you so much this is the best thing you could have done

[identitty-dickruption]

Perhaps an example of a non-disability dynamic social relationship might throw light on the way the radical interpretation of disability works. ‘Parenthood’ indicates a particular social relationship. To be a mother (or read father in this context) you must be a female (male). However, being a female does not make you into a mother. Being a mother presupposes a female physique, but it is only a special relationship to another person (child) that transforms the person into a mother, as well as quite independently still remaining a female. This special relationship with a child captured in the identifier ��mother’ is given substance by the social context in which it takes place. This context is historically determined, dynamic and changes over time with the ebb and flow of a society’s evolution. There was a time when cultural emphasis of the parenting relationship was so ingrained that you could not separate the personal attribute from the social status, for example, a person was not thought of as a ‘real’ female (male) until becoming a mother (father). Nowadays with the growth in single parent families, wage-earning parents unable to provide daytime child care and same sex partnerships, for example, many adults have to take on both mother and father roles from time to time. Clearly, the parenting relationship terms are undergoing further profound changes. Similarly, I see the modern meaning of disability in the UK as involving a unique dynamic relationship between people with certain personal attributes (impairments) and the particular social and physical environment in which they function. The socio-economic system at the same time, of course, defines the meaning of gender, race, class and so on. In the same way that the identity and attributes of being a mother (or father) in the parenting relationship are not applicable in every social situation (for example, at a place of employment), disability should always be interpreted dynamically within a particular social context.

Finkelstein (2004), Representing Disability

[luniviravosshipper]

Actually feels like I'm losing my mind sometimes 'cause the TDP fandom is the only fandom where it feels like people are hardly at all fawning over the well curated selection of gay DILFs in the series.

Like this is one of the few children's media I know that has canonical mpreg (that's somehow done in a way that's also treated with just as much seriousness as it's treated comedically) and... no one cares? I mean, maybe that wasn't shocking to the fandom at the time and of course a ton of other shit has happened that's gone beyond that (like the cannibalism maybe), but seriously. Surely that should attract people to this show, right?

I mean, tragic old man yaoi became so popular in 2024, I saw everyone talking about it all throughout the year on Tumblr. And no one looked into exploring viravos more through that? Like, what? The way the ship so perfectly aligned with people's ideals for that trope and even hit points that I felt like some people said the most popular ships of that trope weren't able to fit... And if anything it seems like viravos has died down since mid 2024 (around when season 6 came out and when this trope seemed to be peaking in popularity because of the other media coming out at the time that used it) within the show's own fanbase. And it used to be the second most popular ship at that too.

And again, it's one thing for none of these characters or ships to be the main appeal for the fanbase itself... But somehow none of these things draw other people in? That's the crazy part to me. That's what's mind boggling.