No because Becca I love the concept of a huge scary beefy man who’s a switch. Because one moment he’s under you begging to let him cum and make his mommy full and the next he’s grabbing your hips from behind making sure to pin your body down with his weight as he pounds into like an animal in heat
Oooooh yes, I love this!! But I love kind of imagining there's a breaking point? Like they're subby up until something makes them switch
This really makes me think of a switch Bucky though. The way he'd mumble and whimper and beg but you're still refusing to let him cum.
He's so fucking subby under you, whining as you ride him. He doesn't really even know what to do with his hands because he needs them everywhere at once. "Oh God please let me cum. I need it, fuck please." He sobs, a little more frantic than he wants to be.
"No amount of whining is going to change my mind, baby boy." You coo, holding his face in your hand and slowing down to a sultry grind of your hips. He's so frustrated by that answer because he sounded overly pathetic this time and he really thought that would do it for you.
"It's for the best, sweetheart. I know you think I'm just being harsh but I promise it's for good reason." His interest would've been piqued if his head wasn't so damn cloudy with need and lust, his hands now settling on your hips because he needs you to move them faster again.
"But mommy, I wanna fill you. W-wanna cum inside you and make a mess. I need it, mommy. Fuck, please." He's so gone, rutting against you as much as he can, trying to fuck himself into you a little more frantically than you're allowing him to.
"I took my birth control a little late this morning, honey. Just want to be on the safe side." You whisper and oh God, that's it for him.
"Oh fuck." He grunts, barely even taking a breath before flipping you over, positioning you on your hands and knees and slipping back inside you with a growl. "You're telling me there's a tiny chance of making you a mommy tonight? I could fill this pretty little desperate cunt and have you full of me? Mhm, that sounds nice, doesn't it baby?" He can hardly control himself, fucking you relentlessly, taking what he needs. He knows you won't be able to answer him. All the questions just make you stupid because he's rubbing right against your sweet spot and there's nothing you can do to hold your orgasm back.
"This is what you wanted, wasn't it mommy? You wanted this all along." He's taunting you now, pointing out just how little it took for you to go subby for him.
"Could m-make you a daddy." You stutter, clinging to the sheets, wishing you hadn't used Bucky to give yourself so many orgasms earlier now that you're so overstimulated.
"Oh sweetheart, you're gonna." He smirks, pressing you down by the small of your back. He knows he's going to pull out and finish exactly where he has his hand pressed right now. The risk is fun and exciting and you're both so into it but he's still responsible enough to know it's not a great idea right now.
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You make a lot of good points there.
Something like TNA has very obvious gender coding errors, most notably when Paolo talks about how he's marrying Sofia to Sam because he wants her to be a wife and mother and he thinks women shouldn't be in the business world. Yet he's marrying Sofia to a female CEO? There's no amount of mental gymnastics you can do to make that work. And to add salt to the wound are other smaller errors like f!Sam saying the kids have been "without a mother figure" or that time when the kids called f!Sam "Dad".
On the other hand, I think a good example of male-coding that's a little more implicit is Reagan in Surrender. For the most part it probably is a bit easier to suspend any disbelief with female Reagan's writing and behavior. But when you see them say shit like "When a woman agrees to be my sub, she agrees to obey" it feels weird from the female version.
Granted that line has no place in this story regardless of Reagan's gender, but it feels like something that only a misogynistic abusive guy would say. It'd be one thing if they said "when you agree to be my sub you agree to obey" or "when someone agrees to be my sub they agree to obey", but to specify woman in it (even in the possible context that Reagan is into women only regardless of gender) adds a hint of misogyny to it that... doesn't feel right coming from a sapphic woman.
Similarly with Kit from Untameable. Their behavior for the most part felt gender neutral to me, but the way Austin treats their relationship with MC feels more suited for a wlm route. I mean, it's not completely nonsensical for the others and it's honestly terribly written even for the wlm route, but why the mlw route would not accuse him of being slutshamey or the mlm and wlw routes would not accuse him of being homophobic is a bit odd.
With an LI like Kieran though I feel like it's easier to suspend any disbelief. None of Kieran's behaviors felt like they'd be rooted in misogyny, plus it is a fantasy realm setting different from modern day earth.
The extra weird thing about gender coding for LIs is that sometimes it can make the f!LI routes more preferable. I have seen some people say Reagan's behaviors felt less uncomfortable and creepy when they were coming from the female version. And as a GNC woman myself, I far preferred the mlw routes for books like ID, SW, and TCH as they felt a little more refreshing, compared to how been-there-done-that they'd have felt in the originally intended wlm routes. But even then, although stuff like LI carrying MC or MC sitting in LI's lap aren't nonsensical with non-wlm to me, I do still want some stories where it's the wlm route that feels more refreshing than the mlw, y'know. I want to be the one holding the umbrella for the LI, or bridal-carrying the LI, or having the LI sitting in my lap.
I'm noticing a lot of these problems– both the actual male coding of f!LIs and the lack of variety in romance dynamics– do boil down to essentially PB being lazy. They just play it safe and rely on a narrow stereotyped view of who their audience is (genderconforming allocishet women) and what they think they like. They rarely if ever expand their boundaries– and what makes that tragic is the fact that they have shown to be capable of doing so every now and then. But for the most part, it's playing it safe 90% of the time.
Sorry for the long ask, I just have a lot of thoughts on this.
Don’t apologize for the long ask! I love talking about gender so thank you! 😊
I agree that TNA has very obvious gender coding errors that make it clear when PB wrote Sam they wrote them as a man. And you’re spot on that there’s a difference between Sam and Regan but at the end of the day their writing still comes across as them being male-coded.
I think the biggest problem with Untameable in terms of gender coding isn’t the writing of Kit themselves but how they write the other characters’ perceptions and reactions to Kit.
Austin is definitely way too overprotective when it comes to female Kit but my biggest gripe is how in rural Oklahoma everyone is completely okay with Kit being a player who has a history of hooking up with only women. And all the women publicly fawning over her too? It’s completely unrealistic and shows that PB didn’t even consider how this would be unbelievable when Kit is a woman.
Listen I’m all for more queernorm stories but this story isn’t queernorm because outside of female Kit and MC there is not a single queer romance depicted. So having everyone in rural Oklahoma know Kit is queer and having them all be okay with it and a bunch of girls fawn over her just shows that Kit was written as a man by PB.
With Kieran I gotta say I disagree with you there. Domestic abuse and intimate partner violence is rooted in the patriarchy and when the victim is a woman rooted in misogyny. Kieran kidnapped the MC and abused her. I don’t think having that be in a fantasy setting changes the gender roles in any way, not when they’re literally being abusive. Even if Kieran is a woman in someone’s story, that abuse is still rooted in the patriarchy and misogyny.
Furthermore, the Cursed Heart is clearly inspired by A Court of Thorns and Roses. This book series is ripe with misogyny, violence against women, and so forth. The love interest in that series is this dark, brooding man from the Night Court (yes PB used the same name too) who literally groomed the 19 year old main character, SA’d her, and kidnapped her. Yet his abuse is then justified by the author and he is turned into the romantic hero of the series.
So personally I think Kieran’s actions are rooted in the patriarchy and misogyny no matter if it’s in a fantasy world or not, no matter if they’re a man or a woman. Abuse is a lot more common in cishet relationships (and while it can obviously happen in queer relationships it’s not as prevalent and even then that abuse is still rooted in the patriarchy) and considering the inspiration behind the Cursed Heart as well I’d say that Kieran is male-coded.
And you’re spot on. The problem is that PB knows which people in their audience pay the most (genderconforming allocishet women) and writes stories for them. They don’t consider how the relationship dynamics are different when it’s a queer relationship compared to a cishet one.
PB has definitely shown that they’re capable of it. For example, when playing Guinevere I really at any point never picked up on the LIs being heavily gendered towards male or female. And I agree PB absolutely has the ability to write these stories and LIs with care and consideration they just choose not to. It’s all about money these days which is very disappointing
Thanks for the ask!
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It’s inherently funny to me that Crosshair and Delana elope (random thought I know, I’ve talked about it briefly before but I have more thoughts. Sorry, it’s not Soft Sniper Sunday but I’m always thinking about these two).
There’s literally no epic fanfare or dramatic climax (lol), it’s merely suggested in passing.
Of course there’s deep-rooted feelings to back it up; he’s in love with her and she’s in love with him, there’s a mutual, unspoken desire to spend the remainder of life with each other, but Crosshair is the one to suggest it, one quiet morning over breakfast.
Yes, Crosshair is the one who initiates.
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“Let’s elope.”
Delana hides her surprise behind the rim of her mug. She takes a measured sip and lets the morning caf bring some clarity to his sudden advance. Not unanticipated. Just sudden.
Delana gives Crosshair a measured look. He’s dead serious, his caf totally abandoned in favor of eyeing her intently as he awaits her response. No doubt his fragile ego banking heavily on her assent.
The corner of her lip twitches. “Are you proposing?”
“I’m saying. Let’s get married.”
“Today?”
Crosshair shrugs. “Why not.”
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It’s as simple as that. XD
(When she agrees with a casual and heart-stopping “Okay.” he’s taking an immediate sip of his caf to hide his stupid happy grin.😍)
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