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caligvlasaqvarivm · 6 months

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Love is Stored in the Cat: A Nepeta Leijon Character Study

I guess these are a series now! I also have a request for Feferi in my inbox that I'll get around to eventually.

SO! Dear, sweet Nepeta.

Nepeta is the troll that is most against the existence of the hemocaste.

I believe the Ultimate Self speech was originally going to be from her, not Davepetasprite^2.

She's bad at shipping.

These all make her extremely impurrtant!!!

So furst of all, I'm going to start with the same disclaimer as my Eridan essay (go read that first!!! It sets up a lot of ideas that I'm expanding on here), which is that the things Hussie says are going to be lowered in value, because he likes to play coy about plot stuff. I'm also not counting anything but the actual text as canon, and even with in that text, I'm counting everything after GAME OVER as soft canon - a suggestion of what would have been, often truncated for time, often a deliberate middle finger to the shitty fandom.

Okay, so with that squared away!

Nepeta Says Fuck The Hemocaste

I'm not going to bother doing a deep dive on Nepeta's characterization, because fur the most part, I think the fandom more or less gets her right - she wears her heart (h33h33) on her sl33ve, after all! She's a very sweet little catgirl who loves roleplay and shipping, who is also a vicious hunter of wild beasts and lives in a cave. She's very nice and friendly, but has a tough streak and a spine.

She also says fuck the hemocaste, why does that even exist:

CT: D --> Your fraternization with the base classes have 100sened your morals, can't you see this AC: :33 < no! i dont care, they are fun AC: :33 < and i dont know anything about classes or bases or blood color, it doesn't matter! AC: :33 < what does gr33n blood even mean! it doesnt mean anything to me and it shouldnt mean anything to anyone else!

This is a radical stance not outright shared by any of the other trolls. Aradia calls highbloods "hateful sn0bs" that she and Tavros shouldn't have "ever had anything t0 d0 with", the highbloods are, of course, all casteist to varying degrees, and even Karkat seems fairly accepting of the class divide, at one point taunting Vriska that her rejection from the blue team is "ANOTHER INFURIATING VICTORY FOR GUTTER BLOOD OVER ARISTOCRACY". Not to mention his long-held dream of becoming a threshecutioner.

Even Feferi, despite saying to Eridan that "W-E AR-E NOT B-ETT-ER T)(AN ANYBODY!!!!!", is actually perfectly comfortable with the caste system's existence, comparing having to stop using her royal typing quirk to "peasant-IFICATING" herself - and let's not forget that a Beforus under her rule had its caste system 100% intact.

This means that Nepeta is the ONLY troll who has said, in no uncertain terms, that the caste system should not exist. It's stupid, it's bad, and it doesn't meowtter!

AND SHE'S RIGHT.

But she's never able to fully express this opinion, which brings us to:

A COMPLICKATED RELATIONSHIP WITH EQUIUS

Now, before I say anything, I must insist that I do believe these two work as good moirails. That does not, however, stop them from being 13, and therefore, being poor to each other the way 13-year-olds sometimes are. I don't think they should break up; I think they should re-examine certain dynamics, and I think they need some space to breathe apart from each other.

Equius has a lot of problems, which I won't get into overmuch here, because... that's a whole essay on its own (are you people seeing a trend yet). But with regards to Nepeta specifically, he's extremely controlling and protective, to the point where she's a little scared of him before the game begins:

AC: :33 < well it does sound like it will be a lot of fun but i think i should get purrmission first GC: BL4R!!!!! GC: TH4TS SO STUP1D GC: H3S NOT TH3 BOSS OF YOU AC: :33 < i know! AC: :33 < but still im kind of scared of him and i think purrhaps its best to just run it by him first so there isnt a kerfuffle about it or anything

She's also afraid to tell him about her crush on Karkat, since she knows he doesn't like Karkat:

AC: :33 < well AC: :33 < i have never told anybody this not even my moirail AC: :33 < heh, actually hes the LAST guy i might tell, he so wouldnt appurrve X33 AC: :33 < but yes i have liked somebody for quite some time, but alas he doesnt know it

By the time they end their game, she's gotten over this fear, seeing as she spends many hours curled up with Equius in a pile of robotics parts, but it still must be noted that they have some issues in their relationship that were never resolved, primarily on Equius's end. What this means for Nepeta, however, is that in addition to setting her up as the most outright anti-classism troll, the comic sets her up to be socially isolated due to her moirail's paranoia about letting her associate with both lowbloods (seeing them as bad influences) OR other highbloods, seeing them as dangerous.

He's not entirely wrong - his refusal to allow her to participate in FLARP kept her from winding up entangled in the horrible chain of revenge, as Tavros alludes:

AT: iT'S PROBABLY FOR THE BEST, AT: tHAT YOU LISTEN TO HIM, AC: :33 < i dont know AC: :33 < you think so? AT: wELL, AT: iF YOU DIDN'T LISTEN TO HIM BEFORE, AT: yOU MIGHT HAVE PLAYED GAMES WITH US BEFORE, AT: aND SOMETHING BAD MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED TO YOU, AC: :33 < hmm purrhaps

But he's still wrong. And it's probably an uncontrolled manifestation of his Heir of Void abilities - he's both consciously and unconsciously hiding her from other people.

This isn't to say she doesn't stand up for herself! Many of her discussions with Equius are pseudo-arguments, and she does get her way often enough, managing to get him to roleplay with her, and managing to get him back in the roboti% pile to talk about his feelings about Aradia. She also talks to the humans explicitly against Equius's orders, although she's keeping it a sneakret from him:

NEPETA: :33 < but equius already furbid me from doing that :(( NEPETA: :33 < not that i am listening to him, but shhhhh! :33 KARKAT: WAIT, HE DID? KARKAT: OK, THEN AS YOUR LEADER I ORDER YOU TO RP WITH THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BE AS OBNOXIOUS ABOUT IT AS YOU CAN. NEPETA: :33 < yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

But the fact that she has to tiptoe around him like this speaks to them having issues in their relationship that go unexamined and unresolved, especially since it's clear that Nepeta really would like to be friends with more people, were Equius not getting in her way. So, even though I do think they are good moirails for each other - they clearly genuinely, deeply care about one another. But they could use some relationship counselling.

In fact, Jasprosesprite^2 outright calls her lonely:

JASPROSESPRITE^2: Or the girl who likes ships! Cause they made her less lonely. ;3

So, she's anti-hemocaste and lonely, two character traits that were set up and never resolved. And beclaws this is Nepeta, in her honor, I'm going to talk about a third:

Her Unrequited Crush On Karcat

She has the BIGGEST flushed crush on Karkat. It's seen on her shipping wall twice, once with the word OTP on it.

And, despite never discussing it with her moirail, Nepeta mentions it once to Jaspersprite, and once to Jasprosesprite^2.

Now, I'm not really here to debate on the validity of KatNep - I think it's fine, even if I don't personally ship it, and don't personally think it would work out (there are lots of indications that they wouldn't work out, including Jasprosesprite^2 outright saying so). However, her crush on Karkat is both complicated and creates some interesting setups for her character. I am going to discuss it fairly critically either way, so KatNep shippers have been warned.

A lot of her feelings about Karkat - and about shipping in general - wind up being heavily interlinked with her status as a Hero of Heart, so I'm going to expand on it more there. But what I will note in this section is the fact that, despite Nepeta insisting twice that she doesn't think Karkat knows about her crush on her:

NEPETASPRITE: :33 < it was karkat NEPETASPRITE: :33 < but i never told him and im pretty sure he never found out how i felt!

He tooootally did:

KARKAT: OK, BUT TO BE FAIR, I'M PRETTY SURE SHE'S STILL OBSESSED WITH ME. KARKAT: IT'S A VERY UNFORTUNATE, VERY RED AND VERY UNREQUITED SITUATION I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TIPTOE AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, OK?

Interpret that how you will for shipping purposes, but I want to propose that this is a reflection of their statuses as Heart and Blood players. Heart, despite its players' obsessions with romance, is not the romance aspect, Blood is. Karkat displays this very same romantic acumen when he tells Dave that he's known Terezi and Gamzee were a thing for a long time, despite everyone else on the meteor trying to keep it a secret from him. Heart is, instead, about identity, feelings, motivations, souls, and self. In other words:

Nepeta Is Kind Of Bad At Shipping

Let's take a look at those shipping walls.

Let's break this down a little. Nepeta's ships are not entirely wrong, but even the successful ones are kind of wrong. Here's what I mean. We've already discussed how Equius and Nepeta's moirallegiance has some... issues in it. If we go down her list of ships that actually do happen, most of them have some issues in them!

Aradia expresses her regret for getting together with Equius in the Ministrife. Kanaya and Rose suffer some major relationship problems when Rose starts drinking, to the point Karkat feels a need to step in as an auspice. Karkat and Gamzee fail, as Karkat is not calmed by Gamzee, and Gamzee stops listening to Karkat. And while Sollux and Feferi seem to be fairly healthy, after they both wind up in the Furthest Ring, he's pretty much always next to Aradia - he and Feferi don't even get to exchange words with each other once they're in the Furthest Ring. Purrsonally, I think he and Feferi are meant to end up as moirails, but shhhh.

So what's happening here? Well, this goes back to her identity as a Heart player. Heart is concerned with feelings and motivations.

They simply want to understand the one thing we all are stuck with for our entire lives, i.e. our own minds. Forging an identity is extremely important to the Heart-bound, and every decision and action goes toward building a coherent narrative of their own story. That isn't to say Heart-bound don't care deeply for their friends and allies; they just have a tendency to assume that everyone is as concerned with identity as they are.

Nepeta's shipping has also been associated with her isolation and loneliness. When you put this together, it implies that Nepeta's shipping is about her desire to understand others, and much of her ships are based on one of the parties having feelings, regardless of compatibility, feasibility, or broader implications. After all, despite the fact that she has pretty terrible romantic acumen, she IS able to instinctively identify that Eridan's advances toward her were insincere:

NEPETASPRITE: :33 < well ok i guess eridan hit on me a few times NEPETASPRITE: :33 < but his advances always struck me as cr33py and insincere

And that Karkat secretly LOVES and RESPECTS his friends:

JASPROSESPRITE^2: On the contrary Nepeta. You deserve someone who will RESPECT and ADORE you. NEPETASPRITE: :33 < well... yes NEPETASPRITE: :33 < i always hoped to find someone like that some day NEPETASPRITE: :33 < i dunno maybe youre right but in spite of whatever problems he might have i always felt like i saw something in him that made me think he could be that purrson!

Or knowing that Equius loves to play games, and still feels sad about Aradia exploding:

AC: :33 < i s33 right through your stupid act, who are you trying to kid! AC: :33 < look how you go out of your way to use words that have x's in them so that you can use your silly purrcent signs AC: :33 < or use these absurd words that you can shoehorn a '100' into, even if its not strictly replacing 'loo'!!! AC: :33 < you are so transpurrent AC: :33 < i can tell you like to play games, d33p down you are a guy who likes to play games! AC: :33 < i can smell a guy who likes to play games from so fur away with this nose, you have no idea X33

NEPETA: :33 < she was so happy, just like she used to be, and she said she would s33 you soon! EQUIUS: D --> That's a nice thought, and thank you for sharing it EQUIUS: D --> But it was only a dream, and will surely have no consequence in reality NEPETA: :33 < equius? NEPETA: :33 < are those f33lings i an detecting with my wiggly whiskery nose? EQUIUS: D --> Maybe

Because feelings, and not relationships, are her actual domain.

And speaking of Heart powers...

Nepeta and the Ultimate Self

So from this point forward, I'm going to assume you're more or less agreeing with my take that at some point after Game Over, Hussie - for whatever reason - gave up on his original ending, and wound up truncating his ideas so he could finish the comic faster. I go more into detail about that here.

So, in this hypothetical original ending, I firmly believe that the speech about the Ultimate Self would have come from Nepeta. First, let's take a look at what the "Ultimate Self" entails, as it appears within the comic:

DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < everything that ever happens to every version of you is an important part of your ultimate self... like a superceding bodyless and timeless persona that crosses the boundaries of paradox space and unlike god tiers or bubble ghosts or whatever, it really IS immortal DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < but in your physical form there are all these partitions in your mind that prevent you from remembering any of that which makes your existence f33l totally linear DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < which is probably for the best! DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < in a regular body s33ing all that would be too overwhelming ... DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < and after it sinks in for a while you start coming to this understanding of a greater self DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < maybe i "got it" quicker though because of the two people i was and their aspects DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < understanding heart is all about the nuances of a distributed self DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < nepeta never got to make much headway with her aspect but shes finally gettin the chance DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < the time aspect is all about running into different versions of yourself so you kinda get confronted with it in a really literal way that can be disturbing DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < obviously davesprite stuggled with that too, but now its fine DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < hes fr33 from worrying about it all and what it means for his place in reality DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < because he can s33 now all his selves have relevance in painting the full picture of who he truly is DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < im not COMPLETELY sure because im not like some sort of ASPECT MASTER but DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < my avian slash feline intuition tells me that all roads will lead you here eventually DAVEPETASPRITE^2: B33 < gaining the d33pest possible understanding of any aspect will bring you to the same final conclusion about your ultimate self

Now, I believe - and I hope you'll agree - that it's kind of lame, narratively, for Davesprite to have been set up with so much angst about not being the "real Dave," and for Nepeta to have all her issues with loneliness and shyness, and for these two specific iterations of each other to have never interacted, but suddenly getting double-prototyped fixes all of their problems, and they achieve Ultimate Selfhood despite being two total strangers to each other. So let's instead break down the more salient points about what Ultimate Selfhood entails, divorced from the fact that it's Davepetasprite^2 doing the narrating:

Every player in the game possesses an "Ultimate Self," an ultimate culmination of all their experiences and memories, specifically referred to as a "persona"

Normally, people are not aware of this, because it would be too overwhelming to deal with so many memories and iterations of each other.

Everyone will achieve Ultimate Selfhood eventually as the final culmination of their understanding of their aspect.

Heart is all about the nuances of a distributed self.

Let's talk about that last one some more, and by that I mean, let's see what Calliope has to say about it:

TT: I don't know why it had to be this way for me. Juggling these two waking selves at once. TT: I guess I'm used to it, but it still makes for a pretty intense existence. TT: Do you even know what the deal with that is? Like is there any precedent in your readings? UU: i don't know aboUt precedent, bUt it makes plenty of sense to me as the type of path one might expect for a hero of heart. UU: a path rUled by the heart aspect can be a joUrney of splintered self. UU: that is, the player's being may exhibit the same kind of fragmentation which certain classes coUld caUse in others. UU: i think this is what has triggered yoUr dUal-awareness between waking and dream selves, thoUgh it woUld not sUrprise me if the symptoms manifested in even more ways than this.

Now, Dirk has a clawmplicated relationship with his alternate selves, given that he's a Prince, but Nepeta wouldn't have the same struggles, or at least, not to the same degree. The problem is, hampered by Equius and her own shyness about discussing her thoughts and feelings with others:

NEPETASPRITE: :33 < i get so shy and worried what people might think of me if i say how i f33l NEPETASPRITE: :33 < im always so scared that they wont f33l the same way or just think im stupid or pathetic or something

She never actually gets to explore this part of herself.

But What If... She Did?

The way I imagine the original ending going is that each troll that gets saved by John's interference in the timeline then asks John to help them fix their own mistakes, thereby saving somebody else. Each successive trip through the meteor brings new character development, and also riddles the comic with progressively more password pages, which I think would be really funny. And throughout all this the Game Over team is searching for Vriska, Meenah, and the treasure, and resolving their arcs that way, so it's not like they would be replaced - they're the ones who get to kill LE. The process, in my mind, goes like this:

Terezi asks John to save Vriska, and prevent her from getting too spades with Gamzee, as these are her two greatest regrets.

Vriska obviously had great regrets about killing Tavros, both pre- and post-retcon, so she asks for his death to be prevented.

Tavros staying alive means that he and Gamzee wind up hashing out some stuff - Gamzee mentions that he feels "So aT ChIlL WiTh yOu" while talking to Tavros, and Tavros reciprocates the friendship and also - interestingly - acknowledges Gamzee's religion, calling it beautiful even if he doesn't necessarily believe in it. This is interesting because Karkat's inability to do so is explicitly one of the reasons their moirallegiance broke down. So having Tavros back, alive, means that he and Gamzee would likely end up in some sort of relationship, probably pale despite flushed leanings, and would bring Gamzee back into the fold.

Gamzee would then be like, yeah, wow, that time I killed Nepeta and Equius was pretty bad, huh? Especially since his decision to hang onto his friends' bodies and prototype them is often interpreted as him genuinely feeling bad about his dead friends (he tells Kurloz to shut up when Kurloz mentions all the dead friends, and his religion seems to be about a paradise he wants to share with his friends anyway). So he'd ask John to prevent him from killing them, resulting in the two of them getting to live.

Things get much more hypothetical from here, since so much of the character dynamics would have changed, but I think by this point, Equius might command ask John to let him say goodbye to Aradiabot before she explodes, which he expresses feeling very sad about. However, in doing so, John and Aradiabot end up in the same room, and when she realizes that he has the ability to change the timeline without repercussions, she'd seize him by the arm and demand that he take her back in time, to before she died. After all, she expresses regrets about her reckless actions, and how she always felt like it was all one big setup.

She would take Aradia's place in the Vriska revenge chain, being once more freed of her robot chassis, and from there, would trick Doc Scratch and the Handmaiden into thinking everything was still going according to their designs. Meanwhile, Alive!Aradia would be hanging out at Equius's place, borrowing his void powers to avoid notice, coordinating a new timeline that keeps the beats of the original (too much deviation causes unpredictability, and an paradox'd timeline offshoot without John's direct interference would still become doomed), but allows them greater freedom and the ability to overcome the machinations of Doc Scratch and associates.

This would also prevent Sollux from becoming so self-loathing, since it's no longer "his fault" that Aradia dies, although he winds up in that hole again after Feferi gets killed. Now that his Aradia is alive, he wouldn't feel like he might as well stay in the bubbles because his closest companions are there, so he'd make it to the end, and would ask John to prevent Feferi's death.

Eridan still dies; he's so disconnected and isolated from all his friends that his course of actions is largely unaffected even by everybody else's timeline tweaks. But before Feferi can suggest bringing him back, Karkat would butt in.

The Friendship Troll should be the one to demand that ALL of their friends be revived, especially if they had everyone except only one guy, and Karkat and Eridan are heavily implied to be moirails anyway. The course of Karkat's fixes are so comprehensive, and primarily romance-based, that the end result of this final loop is everybody not only being alive, but god-tiered, with appropriate character development.

Now, where Nepeta's Heart powers would play into all of this is that she would start to notice something going on. After all, Heart players are sensitive to their splintered selves, and (Nepeta) is probably much closer to Nepeta than regular doomed timeline offshoots. As the loops continue, and Nepeta has more and more time to talk to people, and meets her dead alternate selves, and even meets (Nepeta), she starts to awaken to her Ultimate Self - to come into possession of alternate memories.

And if the Ultimate Self is a very soul-y kind of concept, such that Heart players have a natural advantage in coming to understand it, then isn't it a natural fit that a Rogue of Heart - one who steals from Heart or steals Heart for others - would be naturally inclined to share the wisdom of her alternate selves, and even the very concept of the Ultimate Self, with her friends?

Because the Ultimate Self is actually, in my opinion, a pretty good narrative device. It turns the sadness of the dead and doomed timelines into something littersweet instead, and makes it so any weirdness regarding time travel and not really knowing your friends anymore will eventually be resolved, even if off-screen.

It's not really narratively satisfying when Davepetasprite^2 suddenly comes into being and reaches enlightenment, but imagine if instead it's a post-character development Nepeta comforting Davesprite on his relevance, or Jade on her loneliness, or John on not really knowing these new post-retcon versions of his friends? It would feel a lot better, since in this hypothetical, she would have reached that point after on-screen character development. Being able to share her true self with her friends on the meteor - by necessity, since what else are they going to be doing for three years - leads to her finally being able to fulfill her role as a Rogue of Heart.

Also, at some point during these repeated meteor trips, she dates Karkat (whether that's successful or not, I'll leave to reader interpretation - you already know where I stand), fulfilling Jaspersprite's musing that she might only be able to date Karkat after she dies.

So that's two out of thr33 of her outstanding plot hooks resolved... okay. So, I try not to make these essays into ship propaganda, but hear me out:

Hate Is Stored In The FefNep

Okay, so, remember that thing about how Feferi is actually a huge casteist hypocrite? Well, let's also note that the comic, post-Murderstuck, seems to put Nepeta and Feferi together a lot - they're a Commodore and Rear Admiral in the ghost pirate army, respectively, and they also wind up as Fefetasprite. So I think it's not entirely out of left field to say that these two were implied to have SOMETHING going on.

And that something... is a difference in political views.

I mean, let's be real, there's a reason Fefetasprite is the most explode-prone after Tavrisprite. Miss "The Hemocaste is Stupid and Shouldn't Matter" vs. Miss "I Love Being A Princess And Call Jade Hornless and Finless (Derogatory)"? Come on, tell me you don't see it.

Without getting too much into Feferi, this hypocrisy, and unwillingness to check her privilege (so glad I found an excuse to use that term unironically), are probably her greatest character flaws - ie, the things you would expect the story to address about her. Meanwhile, one of Nepeta's flaws, which she laments to Jasproseprite^2, is that she feels too shy to talk about her feelings to other people, leading to her having never expressed her views on the hemocaste to anyone but Equius.

I think that they initially think they'd be friends. Each one of them would go "oh man, this other girl is soooo cute, I wish I could talk to her more often!"

And then, once they do, they realize they fucking hate each other. Nepeta would go "X00 < you are such a hypocrite who f33ls like youre better than all of us!!!" and Feferi would go "You're suc)( an uneducated glubbing P-EASANT! 3X0" and then they'd claw each others' eyes out. It would be so funny, and if a homestuck ship isn't extremely fucking funny, then why are we even here.

But more importantly, this would further them along into resolving each others' arcs - Feferi would be forced to grapple with the greater implications of classism, and Nepeta - who is shown having a spine the most in defiance of somebody else - would grow more aggressive about being open about her feelings in defiance of Feferi. Even Equius would get roped into it in a positive way - you can just imagine him going "D --> Can I really believe my auricular sponge clots D --> Nepeta, you are finally taking interest in politi%" and be 100% on board with teaching her so Feferi won't be able to call her uneducated.

And then for flushed, I dunno! Karkat's an option, and Jade and Jake also both love the fuck out of furries, and Tavros seems nice. But yeah I'll die on the fefnep hate ship. Guys it would be so funny.

Thank you as always for reading! Let me know if there's a troll you want to hear me ramble about next.

#homestuck #nepeta leijon #feferi peixes #equius zahhak

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splatattackz · 8 months

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a little bit of a ramon character analysis in all of this;

(from someone whos watched him basically since the start of the egg event)

let me preface this by saying BOTH sunny and ramon are very valid in how they feel right now, i just want to go through and explain how things are from ramons point of view.

lets start off. imagine youre a kid. its just you and your dad, because your other dad left you before you had really begun to speak. you're a kid, and youve never really gotten to have a childhood. from a mix of one of your dads leaving (and how he treated you before he left), to feeling isolated from every other egg (besides a few, a little), to feeling like you have to protect and save everyone else - youve never gotten to be a kid. you still remember that day, when the party exploded, and you were hailed a hero for saving all your siblings. you hadn't felt like a hero, you were scared you were going to die before you had done anything you deemed useful. the worlds loneliest hero. you are only 3 months old at this point. youve died already and live life on one life, a life that threatens to slip away every. single day. youve watched siblings die. youve watched worry swamp your dad, and youve heard his greatest secret. you are only a kid. this is not a childhood. youve never even had a sleepover.

and then enters the picture 3 new siblings. and you love them. you realize, youre now a big brother. and you take that with pride. you care for them. you protect them. youre trying to protect them from your own fate, of not having a childhood. and bad things happen. and you fail. and you fail. and you fail. and youre sorry, and it adds to emotional stress thats been building up for months with no escape hatch in sight.

and then something amazing happens! youve helped your dad find someone to love. you have a pai now. now neither you nor your dad are truly alone, you cant be. you feel amazing. you feel like you can be a kid now, your biggest worry gone. you feel like youve finally done something useful. you can be a kid now. ... except, you can't. not really. because one of the people you considered a big brother, alongside your little sister, are trying to ruin what youve accomplished. theyre trying to destroy your happiness, you think. everything youve worked for - theyre trying to make a rift between your dad and your pai. and your angry. so unbelievably angry. and you shouldn't be angry at your little sister, you know this. you shouldnt feel salty. your dad explained you cant be mad at the child for the parents' actions. but you cant find yourself to stop this anger. the emotional stress that has been building is breaking and being let out at someone you dont want to be mad at. but you cant bring yourself to face her and talk to them. you just want to be happy why cant they see that? why cant her dad see that?

you are finally being happy, you have such a big family now, and theyre trying to ruin it - and turn you and them both are beginning to lose family (eachother) but you cant help it. youre just a kid! youre just a kid seeing 2 peoole you love try to break up your dad and your pai! how are you supposed to feel? youre done being the grown up. after all these months you get to finally be a kid in a proper family. you just want to be a kid. why cant they let you be a kid?

tl;dr; ramons just a kid whos never gotten to be a kid and when he finally does get to be one he sees two of the people he loves the most try and ruin that. how can he NOT be salty and angry? he just wants to be a kid, is it too much to ask?

#gahh i love this kid #and hes very justified where hes coming from #as is sunny dont get me wrong!#its not either of their responsibilities to fix this #THEY ARE JUST KIDS #its their parents responsibilities to show them everything is okay #like i dont like shifting stuff but #its current tubbo fit and pacs responsibilities to fix this #because these two are just kids #they cant sort through this on their own #yk?#qsmp #qsmp ramon #character analysis #qsmpattackz #splatattackz

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reasonandempathy · 8 months

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Didnt Biden say not to vote for him if one believed in the sexual assault allegations though?? https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/ 497930-biden-people-shouldnt-vote-for-me-if-they-believe-sexual-assault/

Like I'm not voting for either piece of trash. Not voting is just what it is- not voting. Stop trying to guilt people into voting for a pos.

First, the literal first lines of that article are about sexual assault allegations against him by Tara Reade. Which is actually the correct stance. "If you think I sexual assault people you shouldn't trust me to be President. " That's not the wrong stance to take.

Secondly, let me try it this way. Silence in the face of oppression is siding with the oppressor. It reeks of a sheer unwillingness to learn about history or engage with anything in the real world if you are fundamentally against voting itself in this situation.

What do you think that phrase means?

By not voting you are choosing to be neutral (on neither side) when directly faced with the choice of "neoliberalism" and "actually a far-right religiously-aligned fascist wannabe" you are are looking at the gulf of differences between them and deciding "I don't care about the in-between."

Mother Fucker appointed 3 of the Justices on the Supreme Court that already have, and are actively going to, do everything they can to make this an actively worse place to live for everyone who isn't a right-wing, rich, cishet white guy.

I do not know how to not get frustrated when I see shitty takes like yours. And I'm not "guilting" you.

I am explaining the real-world actual implications of the action you're proposing.

If you see what I'm saying, you can't find anything factually incorrect or logically inconsistent, and you still decide not to vote then that is fully your right.

And I will fully think less of you.

Whether or not you care is up to you. But if you're feeling guilt then you probably agree with what I'm saying, you're just too god-damned selfish to do something you don't wanna do.

#voting #politics #fascism #biden #2024 election

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dad and i are sitting on the couch together watching tv. it's Friday night so neither of us should be worried about getting up early tomorrow. i honestly always feel on edge when i have to stay at dad's for the weekends. he watches me do things i know dads shouldnt but he says it's because he loves me and wants to make sure im healthy and safe.

as we're watching the movie he keeps hinting i should go to bed because it's late. every time he talks he presses his toes up against me...i shudder every time and cant help clinging onto the side of the couch. i swear sometimes i see him smirk. he seems annoyed every time i tell him i want to stay up and shakes his foot against my pajama shorts before slightly relieving pressure.

after the fourth time hinting he got up and started muttering to himself as he walked to the kitchen.

i quickly shoved my hands under my panties and checked and oh gosh im so wet why am i wet?! im scared because i know dad does bad things but i can never remember anything i feel crazy and if im wet does that mean i like it? does he know i like it? i hear his footsteps coming back and i quickly squirm back into the position i was in before he left trying to make my face cool down.

he has a cup of water in each hand and i smile in appreciation as he gives me one. taking a few sips i go to put it down but dad tells me to keep drinking because it will make me go to bed quicker. he says he's tired and will do the same but he cant sleep until i do so he counts us down and we both finish our waters before he puts his arm around me and lets me cuddle against him. honestly it made me kind of uncomfortable but dad is so big and he was so warm and made me feel safe at the same time.

as the movie goes on i feel my eyes starting to get hazy. i didnt think the water trick was gonna work that quickly (i didnt think it would work at all honestly but dad's old and maybe it works for him) i mutter out to him im sleepy and try to stand up to bring myself to my bedroom but in my efforts dad firmly grabs my thigh and plops me back down next to him. i dont know why but this made me giggly so i tried standing up again just so he'd do it and i stumbled back on the couch letting myself fall all the way back.

my eyes were closed for i dont know how long and i felt so sleepy but dad woke me up when i felt his teeth biting into my neck making my eyes flutter open and i couldnt help but cry out i didnt know what was happening i looked down and my tits were pulled out of my top and dad has two fingers trying to shove their way into my little pussy as i squirm against him starting to cry pleading with him over and over to stop but he just hushes me and grabs my neck pulling me up with one hand and pushing me flat against the couch as he strips my pajama shorts off my flailing legs as he tried to force them apart but i fight against him which i shouldn't have because he took his second hand and brought it up to my neck choking me so hard i thought i was going to die!

when he let go i gasped for air and laid there as he easily picked up my legs and placed himself between them. i started crying when i looked down and saw his face pressed against my pussy and felt his tongue drilling my little hole.

"mmmmm little girl stop crying this little pussy is so wet for your daddy isnt it? ive tasted this cute little cunt before you know that sweetheart?"

he shoved a finger inside me making me cry out and beg him to stop i couldnt think at all i felt so weak what was he doing and why didnt i want him to actually stop?!

"you've got no fight left babygirl? you want daddy to breed that tight little teen pussy?"

i laid on the couch exposed and dripping, crying, feeling defeated as my dad pushed my thighs against my chest and lined his big cock against his daughters pussy that he just ran his tongue all over like an animal not caring what im feeling just taking what he wants.

"I'm a filthy fucking man baby im gonna rape my seed into your little teen cunt do you know what that means sweetie?"

i stopped writing there dangit i wanted to know what happened next :/

#k!nk #r@pe kink #cnc k!nk #r@pe fantasy #daddy k!nk #d@d #cnc drugging #rough cnc #breeding k1nk #dont mind me logging in every 2 months to post 3 things lol

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Does Hunter have any mental crisis where hes fleeing to the woods in Martlet Heart later on? You said his self harmful habits and attempt were canon generally across most of the timelines and we see how it plays out in Agony and Eventually

Oh fuck. Does Hunter have a suicidal meltdown in MH.

My immediate thought is no, he's happy in this timeline! But at the same time- depression doesn't really care if you have a good life or not, it's not entirely dependent on external factors. so I think the greater question is, does hunter suffer from chemically caused depression or purely environmental depression?

I like to think MH hunter also has a much better support structure to rely on, and when faced with the compulsion to panic or break down he actually has a family he trusts and relies on. But panic can cloud rationality too.

MH hunter still HAS trauma. Just a lot less. But he remembers the time he got kidnapped. He's seen his dad in some pretty horrifying positions. He's also unfortunately had a lot of adultification thrust upon him by his dad's illness. I show it in permission to bleed especially how he and all the other kids immediately take charge when he has a break down; the adults in the situation. Hunter takes the caregiver role without question. That leaves it's own scars.

I don't know if hunter HAS a big episode like the other timelines. I did actually have an event in mind where an adult hunter, one no longer living at home but off with Willow, sort of confronts those scars for the first time. He had a happy childhood so it's hard to really consider that there WERE still unfair parts of it. But at some point the unfairness IS going to settle in, that he should never have needed to do things like that, he should never have needed to feel afraid his dad was going to panic and run away or hurt someone, or that someone might kill him for who his dad was, he never should have needed to come to terms with what his dad had done, either. I don't think anyone has a perfect childhood, there will always be wounds and they always need to be confronted eventually. Some are just worse than others. And MH hunters in the grand scheme of things are not all that bad. But they still exist.

In my head he paces around his living room for hours thinking about it before his dad comes over to he goes over there and he gets it out of his system and lets himself get mad about it, vents out all that poison that's building up in his gut. I shouldn't have had to take care of you when I was a kid. I shouldnt have needed to call your therapist or talk you down. I should have had to tell you it was okay when it wasn't, pretend I wasn't scared when I was. And all that is true. And I think he ends it with something along the lines of "maybe you SHOULD have let Darius or Eda or alador raise me instead." He's hurt and he's mad and he hasn't even thought about this long enough or hard enough to mean it. But he says it anyway and storms off. And obviously he regrets it. He spends the whole night miserable and unable to sleep and wishing he hadnt said any of that. And he gets up that morning and goes straight to his parents house and knocks on the door and a very tired Darius answers it and is immediately sourly like ah. Hunter. And hunter is like I know. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it. And Darius is like. Hey man you're an adult and I'm treating you like one. That was irresponsible and unkind and not the way I raised you. Youre right and it's not fair, but it is what it is and it's not fair to him either. You know how much you mean to him and you know you can't talk to him like that or it's going to be super dangerous for him. I expect better of you. And hunter just feels awful! And he's like I know. I'm sorry. Can I come in and apologize? And darius is like. No. He hasnt done anything but sob since you left and he hasn't even let me in the room yet. I'm sorry but you will have to come back later. And he closes the door and just leaves hunter out there feeling like absolute shit before going home to cry to his wife about being a big poopy asshole and it's not like. For a whole extra day before he can come back over and say hes sorry and jasper literally has not slept or eaten in two days because he's been so distraught. But, like. Really character growth that he stayed in bed sobbing jnstead of teleporting away for once, so theres that at least.

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Dang, I didn't realize you stopped writing ML analysis because some dweebs were raining on your parade and making fun of it. You wrote some of the best stuff looking at ML and I'm sorry jerks ruined that for you. Both you and this fandom have been robbed of something great because some people just can't let other enjoy things.

i mean there are a lot of reasons, both personal and fandom related. My work is very demanding, I had some traumatic shit that happened a few months ago I'm still processing, and my interests in fandoms go up and down over time, like right now it's pretty clear to see i'm more active in other fandoms besides ML.

But honestly the awful way the fans have been acting towards this season, not just in the way they rain on everyone's parade but also the way the bible and leaks have spread so far and wide. While that isn't the fandom's fault persay it's still awful. the fun of theorizing is gone when a bunch of people know what's going to happen, so naturally i just kinda stopped (then all the broadcasting bs that always bothers me ugh)

But I think the one thing this fandom hasn't seemed to realize is that it takes a lot of effort to write about this show, especially if you're an adult or a student who has other things going on. It's easy to leave a comment that hates on the analyses they write, and it's also easy for it to feel like a personal attack.

Think of it this way, so many people relate to Adrien and Mari, in so many ways. They can see themselves in them, even their faults and mistakes mean something. It feels incredibly validating for someone to be able to see that.

Take my Adrien has depression posts for example. Because I've had depression since I was younger than him and did a lot of the same masking behaviors he does, it meant so much to me. Here was a character who seemed to be going through what I was at the time and still struggle with today. It was so wonderful to see on screen because it felt like I was finally being seen. Or another example would be Mari's anxiety and ADHD which I also relate to so much, especially when it causes her to make some mistakes or handle things in the wrong way. It's classing anxiety-avoidance cycles, and seeing it on screen made me feel like I wasn't so alone. And I am sure so many other people felt the same way

And then there are people who go and say awful things about these characters on a post where you express those feelings. How Adrien is being a whiney baby or whatever bs they say, how his actions are a sign of him being selfish instead of all of the trauma and neglect he's experienced. Or how Mari's complex thinking patterns and behavior are relegated down to her being a stalker or a mary sue or what have you, once again completely ignoring the core complexity of her character as just a normal girl who was forced essentially to be a superhero. The pressures of which would be tremendous on anyone let alone someone with clear ND traits and traumatic experiences.

And people insult those fictional characters, so quickly and easily, without realizing the very real damage they are doing to the very real people who see themselves in them. I've talked so much about why I love sentiadrien because i can see some of my struggles in that storyline, and then to have people say that no it doesn't matter because my experiences aren't as important? that it's invalid because there's only one right way to experience trauma? that im wrong for finding solace in it? it's awful, and it puts me down.

i shouldnt be feeling invalidated when im watching my comfort show, i shouldn't spend days writing very careful posts only to get them shat on by insensitive comments. as much as i want to ignore them and focus on the good i do and the fun i get from it, it still feels like a stab through the chest every time.

and then there are the people who say i'm an awful therapist because they don't agree with my analyses. that's the worst, and while i won't go into details about why this particular statement brings me so much pain, i just need folks to understand that it's genuinely one of the worst insults i've ever had. and if everytime i write something i have second guess myself, and then second guess if i even have the skill and talent for the field i'm in, it just becomes a horrible spiral. people make these comments like they're the easiest thing in the world to say and it just boggles my mind, because although they may have forgotten their stupid little tag i certainly haven't. i hold them deep in that dark part of my brain where the whispers are loudest and hardest to control.

ultimately, the last few months i wanted to remind myself why i like this show and this website in the first place, and that i'm doing it for me. life is hard enough, if i can't have fun in the one place i can control then what's the point? so i will control my own experiences within this fandom, even if other's want to rain on it

#idk i still might write stuff as the episodes come out and i watch them #but im not going to make it into a second job like i was doing before basically #where i'd go home from work and immediately go back on a comp to do more work #or lose sleep because i was so anxious over things #im having fun right now and while i miss theorizing and analyzing and getting that validation my mental health has been a lot better for it #so yeah #sorry for going on a rant i've just been very blegh lately #the shadowban thing is also no fun but hopefull that gets fixed soon #anyways #ml fandom salt #bushy rambles #asked and answered #sayse

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n1ghtm3ds · 4 months

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I know it is considered ableist to tell people that if they are going to go out into public they need to shower/wear deodorant/etc but Im actually going to play my autism card and say that it is ableist and inconsiderate of those of us who are hyper-sensory to be in public especially enclosed spaces like transportation or places you will have to stand in line next to other people if you do not smell good.

Like if you just went to the gym, do not get out of your car to use an enclosed ATM or stop at the store for groceries before you shower.

Like I know. I know it is hard to shower. I know it is hard to stay fresh while you're depressed or mentally ill. You should not be excluded from public spaces for struggling with hygiene but you also must consider that it would be inconsiderate of the people you are sharing a space with to smell bad. And this doesnt go just for body odor you also shouldnt eat strongly scented foods in public or smoke/vape in public like once your existence becomes inconsiderate of others you need to re-assess.

But like I have a neurological disability that literally interprets your bad smell as being in physical pain. Imagine a gun going off next to your ear, or being blasted with a bright light (both of which are legally classified as torture to/by even NT people) but the sensation is in your nose. You don't have the right to cause me physical pain while I share a space with you, and if you smell bad in public that is what you are doing.

If you have not showered in a few days and cant bring yourself to shower, wash your ass/armpits at the sink with a wash cloth or spray yourself with some Febreze at the very least. Like I get it I really do I have periods where I also struggle to shower but it is summer, if you are going to be in public you need to have showered within the past 12 hours (preferably within the past 3-6, and applied deodorant). If you work out or preform a strenuous activity that makes you sweat you need to shower, and change out of your sweaty clothes and into fresh ones, and not bring those clothes into public again until you have washed them.

But like yes homeless people/people who dont have access to a shower exist (i was one) and sometimes there is no getting around going in public and i do NOT think the solution is to expel people who smell bad from public spaces because there are some situations where people really don't have access to showers (I think the solution is to provide free mental healthcare and house the homeless so that people can live their best most dignified least obstructive lives possible)

I guess some practical solutions to this would be like I said housing the homeless or at least making public free shower stations commonplace so they can stay clean. Sensory hours which do not permit BO or perfumes at places like supermarkets and banks. Compassionate loved ones supporting your mentally ill friend to take a shower and treating it like the accomplishment that it is (I literally needed to implement a sticker chart to get myself to shower after my last mental breakdown, find what works).

Like don't get it twisted for one second I do not want disenfranchised people to feel unwelcome in public spaces and making them feel unwelcome does no good we need to actually solve the solution on why their presence is obstructive in a shared space. But that doesn't change the fact that most of the bad-smelling people i have to share spaces with during the summer are people like gross NT hippies or gym people like I said I understand that sometimes things get bad and you shouldn't be scorned for it but your loved ones should also not be letting you let your self care spiral out of control. Ive had periods of depression where I struggled to shower myself like I said I get it but at least 70% of people who offend me with their smell during the summer months are athletes and hippies.

I also have strong feelings about not defecating in public bathrooms unless it is a dire emergency.

But this guy with a gym outfit on smelled SO BAD in the bank today i almost left and came back when he was gone if i hadn't already waited on line 5 minutes before he came in. Also worth noting that this problem is like 85% male. Like bring a change of clothes and use the free shower there it isnt that hard for gods sake WASH YOUR BALLS.

But once again let me make very clear that Im not saying ostracize people who struggle with or do not have access to hygiene from public spaces and the solution is providing these people with hygiene and dignity but it is rude af and literally causes physical pain for people like me when you have the option and choose not to like smelling bad is one of the most passively inconsiderate things you could do if you have the choice to not smell bad with a small amount of inconvenience.

Not trying to start a grand discourse or anything just mad that this asshole sent me into bitch mode for the night by smelling bad at the bank because my mood since has been rancid.

#actually autistic #autism #neurodivergent #autistic #autistic problems

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“You want some water, whore?” His hips buck into hers, and the action would have her falling forward if not for the arm he’s got wrapped around her front. She whines against the fingers he’s still got shoved into her mouth. “I’ll give you some, slut.”

His digits are extracted from her lips, but they don’t stray far. They slip down her lips, his grip forceful as he grabs her chin and gruffly orders into her ear, “Open wide for me, female. And don’t you dare miss a drop.”

Those bottomless black eyes consume her in their depths, and she doesn’t realize her jaw has gone slack until her tongue lolls out of her mouth submissively.

That submission has him hardening impossibly more between asscheeks as he slicks his cock in her essence between them,

“That’s it, girl,” his fingers repositioned themselves so that they span across her cheeks to push her lips apart even more. “That’s it. Just like that.”

He tips his head back, a hoick sound coming from the back of his throat as he urges her head to the side.

She knows what’s coming, and fuck, it shouldn’t make butterflies fly across her abdomen, but it does.

When his chin tips back down and the airborne ball of his spit is launched from his mouth to her open one, it lands on her tongue perfectly.

“Swallow, omega. Swallow me down your throat,” he demands, his eyes stuck to the glob of spit slowly unfurling over her tongue. “I want to see it. And then I want you to tell me how grateful you are for me for taking care of you.”

She was the perfect fucking omage of submission before him.

Oh, if only she listened.. she was capable of so, so much.

His eyes bore into hers, and it sends a chill down her spine. She trembles in his hold under his gaze, and she's forced to obey.

She swallows, his spit dribbling down her throat now, and the look he gices her is one that is enough to se her on flames with how hot it makes her feel.

She shouldn't like it so much. She shouldnt.. but fuck- she enjoys it so fuckint much.

She's alright with just about anything he does to her at this point. She's too far gone in her devotion and love and trust for him that she doesn't give a fuck anymore.

Thse silly little walls habecome crumbling down along with her resistance under his dominance, and she wouldn't have it any other way.

"T-thankyou, sir.." she whispers, bashful.

"For what, slut?"

"Thankyou for.. for taking care of me, sir. For letting me quench my thirst."

Her obedience has the hand he’s got wrapped around her chin trailing down her glorious, beautiful body, but not before he guides her head back against his shoulder. His fingers are light as they brush past the punctures dotting her skin from her neck to her tits. Down they descend until each of his hands rest on either side of her hips.

“You’re welcome, baby. See what happens when you obey me? You get rewarded.”

She nods in agreement, her breath quickening when one of his hands slides down her thigh, his fingers spreading dangerously close to where she needs him so fucking badly.

“Poor little slut,” he taunts, “must be so hard,” he punctuates the word with a roll of his hips into her, his cock head grazing her hole once more as he goes on, “to not get rewards because you’re so bad all the time. I wish I could give you more praises and rewards, but your continual bad behavior makes me want to defile and degrade you instead.” His fingers edge ever closer to her pussy, never touching her where she needs, but staying close enough that she can’t help but whine out of need as he continues, “but you like that, don’t you? You like seeing me become feral and wild for you, you whore.”

#alpha jungkook asks

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Lmao just know I'm brainrotted and am mentally making both my Xatts Anthros but more animal aligned than anthro Xatts cause Xep is based on a hare in my mind so I wanna turn her into a gangly limbed uncanny hare freak (lovingly) with stupid big ears who just generally has major something is very very wrong with her vibes and probably delights in torture and maiming like a little freak and would growl at Hayden ears pinned back in aggression showing, sharp back teeth that definitely probably shouldnt be there if he looked at the rabbit Xatt anthro too long.

Meanwhile sweet bun Xatt is stuck with this terrifying lanky maniac and is just shaped smaller squishy and ever so soft and fluffy with such delicate gentle paws and a light step. And Xep just wants to dress her up and admire her prize. But also probably has something a bit wrong with her as well. What exactly idk but probably don't get caught snooping somewhere you shouldn't by her. Cause I like the oh a cute lil lady <3 - oh there's something wrong with her actually. Maybe magic idk like I like the idea of powers especially darker magic making her perhaps just as deadly as the maniac hare.

Cause both being Xatts they're both dangerous just in slightly different ways bun is a cutesy lure with the unexpected jaw while Xep is cunning and moreso hunts and I think that'd translate over making them both deadly in different ways. They probably have some sort of work deal pact, not sure what or why I like them being in a fucked up partnership cause dynamic. Bound by blood. I'm just so brain rotted and so normal about this XD with so many mental images of art I'll never make but oof I wanna. I just thought you had a right to know your hayden world stuff urg it consumes me I love thinking about it its so fun.

Also I just like uncanny Valley hare lanky wrong and unnerving paired with a small fluffy and trustworthy bunny rabbit. Like the brain is vibrating at mental imagery of that the opposites the cute correct adored and the terrifying incorrect feared, always kind of bound to the other inseparable almost. Idk I can't fully explain it but thoughts go BRRR

In regards to the designs, any proportions you wanna draw them with are totally fine! You can draw 'em anthro with human proportions and clothing, you can draw them quad, you can draw 'em like Bugs Bunny and anything in between. Xatts can come in many shapes and sizes! A long gangly uncanny one sounds cool.

Also, having something "wrong" with 'em and a slightly ominous streak is very much in character for Xatts...they tend to be a little odd and feral at the best of times--it's mostly a matter of what their individual "bad" percentage is and how good they are at controlling it.

Also, your description of your two as a tag team sounds very endearing! I'll keep that in mind when I do your Xatt sketches… (still planning that, just catching up on stuff and in a bit of a digital art slump at the moment)

In regards to Hyden's reaction, I can certainly say he'd be rather creeped out by a Xatt. Once the surprise wore off, though, he'd be fascinated by this strange, new, potentially magical creature… careful, Xep, don't let him get you on the dissection table!

In the current version of the Amaranthine story, Xatts aren't canonically present--they're more of a free-floating monster idea that could be plugged into any setting--but they were originally part of Amaranthine back in 2009.

In the original 2009-era backstory for Xatts, they were born from the Shadow. Given that Hyden was the one who released the Shadow upon the world in the first place, that would have made him their accidental "father", in a way.

The connection between the two isn't canon anymore, but just a fun little bit of trivia. :)

#apologies for the late response... I had this open in a tab but then my browser got closed and everything slipped my mind #wonder what else I may have forgotten... :I #xatts #xatt #mushroom-for-art #ask #anon #doodles #sketches #my ocs #hyden

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bearsgrove · 1 year

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petty/angry/useless rants below

are there seriously people on this site with "virtual photographer" in the description. like.. that means something… so u take screenshots in games and upload them to tumblr dot com and then beg for reblogs when it doesnt get over 1k notes..... ok...... u know come to think of it i shouldn't be surprised

ppl are so fucking embarrassing on this website i am continually surprised but also i shouldnt be i have been here for years

on a different note. i wouldnt rb someone's creation and hate on it in the tags obviously but i have to let out the steam somewhere. that is not paarthurnax. thats a dragon retexture from g*t. good god. the skyrim content ive been seeing is such a minor thing but it pisses me off so much i kinda want to blacklist the skyrim tag sometimes. the things ive been seeing….. thats not skyrim…… thats not my friend paarthurnax……….. its soulless......... think i talked about this before but every couple of months there is a new skyrim gifmaker or whatever that uploads a bunch of stuff that is Everywhere for months and then it disappears into the void and every single time without a fail its those least skyrim resembling gifsets that i see the most. again i know this is stupid and minor and blah blah river why do u care. i dont know!!! just annoys me. thats not skyrim. thats like some combination of tw3 or rdr2 or ghost of tsushima or idk. everything looks and feels the same lately. no variety. anywhere. just perfection and realism. ok im done now goodbye

#river.txt

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imhereformr · 2 years

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S1 E26: The witches downfall

Whoops... this took me too long to get to.

Love that they took time to show everyone looking tough and ready, then there's Mirta looking like she wants to throw up

Why is Faragonda running the show instead of the nonexistent staff from RF???

Still can't believe the trix sat on thrones of those things...

The dragon! 9/10 entrance. Just needs a touch more oomph

Seriously how close is Alfea to the lake that Bloom and Icy had to move like 2cm to get there?

BABYYYYYYYYYY 😍😍

I am of course talking about Riven

"we went for a walk" slight understatement there your highness

Who let Pepe and Kiko stay?

Stella's little grrr. So cute 😂

Bloom's peace sign is a 10/10 though. Should've added it to the dragon entrance. With the little laugh 😂

The boys just trying to avoid getting hit and doing minor damage. And then there's Knut coming in with the WWE moves 👌🏻

Headmasters once again just sitting around doing absolute fuck all while 4 of their students face off against 2 of the trix and the rest are trying not to die at the hands of the army

The creepy pan over Magix is a nice but unnecessary touch. We already know it's a ghost town and that why that is is never explained.

Oh look Faragonda and Griffin finally do something... Now that Stormy and Darcy are defeated.

I hate the way the army disappears. Stormy and Darcy are just unconscious. If it was tied to their magical energies or wtv Faragonda and Griffin said while I was complaining about their uselessness, shouldnt the army only disappear if they died?

Icy why are you angry? You told her to try to break free. Bloom merely did as you requested.

I hate hate hate Rivens laugh as he helps Musa up but I could not care less because my babiessssssssssahhhhhh 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 They're so cute 🥹🥹🥹🥹

And he's holding her hand! I can't. I am deceased. They're! So! Fucking! Cute!

Faragonda, Griffin and Codatorta looking real serious as Bloom comes back and Saladin's just there like 😀😀😀

Riven looks so upset and I can't tell if it's cause he's thinking about his part in what just happened or if it's cause Musa chose to let go of his hand to go to Bloom, but I'm choosing to believe its the latter.

OUTRAGED. ABSOLUTELY LIVID THAT THEY FOCUSED ON SKY AND BLOOM'S GRAND RÉUNION AND ALL BLOOM AND STELLA GOT WAS A I thought I'd seen the last of you *wipes tear* YOUR HONOUR THIS IS A CRIME

Oh look the people of Magix with no explanation whatsoever

Okay but why is Griffin deciding the trix's punishment? Shouldn't that task belong to, I dunno, a judge? Does Magix not believe in law?

Saladin announces Magix is back to normal. Faragonda is happy. Griffin is confused

"Wait what happened to the people of Magix?"

Griffin, darling. You didn't even know Knut was at Cloud Tower. Why would Faragonda need to consult you?

"I'm so glad I found a friend like Flora" 🌈💅

"We put up a good fight Faragonda". You. Did. Nothing.

Faragonda you don't get to decide what is and isn't a fairy.

The real magic in this show is that they got a dance ready after a war in like a day.

Ooh time to end the season with a melodramatic Bloom moment ™️

#alex watches winx #winx club #winx #winx riven #winx musa #winx stella #winx bloom #winx tecna #winx flora #winx brandon #winx sky #winx timmy

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ngmn2002 · 1 year

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hmm about nene not realizing tsukasa was a yorishiro - maybe it has something to do with how/when she met him??

when they first met she didnt have as much experience with yorishiro and his seal does mirror hanako's so maybe combined with kokujodai (black versions of hakujodai) it could have made sense at the time why he would have a black seal? thematically matching big bro lol

she also didnt meet him in a boundry which to be fair does seem like it'd throw people off since he Shouldnt Be There as far as anyone knows (little troublemaker <3)

IDK just throwing out some food for thought haha

Hey there!

I'm happy to see this ask of yours, Anon. It kinda gives me the feeling of "wow... what I say at times does get to some people and I'm not just talking to myself over here"

Haha, You know... Anon... your ask made me go back to see those posts you referred to... and wow... turned out I made this "Nene / yorishiro Tsukasa" thing become a series without even noticing... lol

Hmm, now thinking about what you said... I can safely say it works perfectly well up until ch 67 (the chapter Nene realized Sumire is a yorishiro), then... it starts falling apart as things keep on progressing.

Let's see... Nene's knowledge about Yorishiros up until that chapter...

All she saw were yorishiros in the form of 'objects' (No.2's, No.3's No.4's No.5's) and never saw a yorishiro in a 'human' form. In addition, it seems the seal on 'objects', diffier from that one on 'humans'.

Keeping that thing, and this thing as well in mind...

Judging by these things, there is no way for Nene to ever come close to considering Sumire as yorishiro. She never saw a yorishiro in a human form before (considering she didn't realize Tsukasa is one before), to her knowledge and according to her 'experience' they are only 'objects'. She knows they should be the "most important thing to a mystery, yet with No.6? She saw he is the actual worst, who doesn't care for Sumire and doesn't deserve her love. All that is completely against her knowledge about what a yorishiro is, right? Still? she got to the fact that Sumire is a yorishiro nonetheless. Speaking about the thing of yorishiros can't leave the boundary as she knows." we have this...

She asked Sumire to leave with her. Then she gets that a yorishiro can actually leave if he/she wants to, and got the 'help' they need or found their way out somehow. And... my... if this thing is not similar?

So, Sumire got the help from her to get out and wandered in the school with no problem.

In the same way, Tsukasa got the help from his assistant and got the chance to wander around the school as well.

Now, to wrap things up, first of all, talking about how Nene wasn't supposed to ever guess Sumire is a yorishiro.

She is in 'human' form, she has a different seal, she sees No.6 the worst and finds him not to care for Sumire and not worthy of her love AND according to her knowledge, << A yorishiro is the 'object' that has a seal different from the one Sumire has and are the most important thing to the mystery.>>

Sumire is the complete opposite of what she thinks a 'yorishiro' is. And, she got to the fact Sumire is a yorishiro despite the fact she shouldn't have done that if she had what she had learned from 'her expectance' in mind.

As for leaving the boundary, we saw that thought never crossed our girl's mind and she jsut casually asked Sumire to leave with her and never questioned the possibly of her not being able to do so. Also, they managed to do so and she got to school with her with no problem. Meaning that she doesn't think 'at least' a 'human' yorishiro can't leave the boundary they are in and she saw with her eyes that they can.

What I want to get into from all that talk is the fact that Nene is capable of thinking outside the box. Just as she did with Sumire, she can do with Tsukasa.

In that light, we have too many ways for her to guess what Tsukasa is before ch 95, without any help. From her 'experience' with Sumire, she gets a yorishiro can in fact have a human form, Tsukasa has a seal identical to Sumire's, with a help from someone, he was able to go meet Amane. What's left? The fact that he must be Amane's most important thing? When she got to that point in her flashbacks in ch 95, she relied on those things on Amane's side.

What Amane said in ch 17 & the way he acted around Tsukasa in ch 45? At this point we are in ch 67 & 68, so she had this information before. If we were going to make things extreme and say she had to know some facts about Tsukasa's side of the story (which she didn't do with any yorishiro, in our case, Sumire, she took the seal as her main lead, not how Sumire feels about No.6 and at that point, she didn't really know how Sumire feels about him, Sumire talked about it in ch 68, and she realized she is a yorishiro a chapter before) let's say she got Tsukasa's side of the story in ch 82. So? In the gap between ch 82 - 95... nothing could have possibly stood in her way of realizing what Tsukasa is. She could easily do it while laying in bed before closing her eyes to sleep.

She could have even guessed it in a way from Amane's reaction.

"Oh my god, Hanako-kun knows about how a seal of a 'human' yorishiro looks like? wait a moment? Tsukasa- kun's seal is... identical to Sumirie's... don't tell me...!"

Let's say this way is too funny to work out. Another way for her to find out what Tsukasa is, comes from her 'experience' with yorishiro Sumire:

Just like Sumire, Tsukasa has the exact same seal. Just like Sumire, Tsukasa takes a 'human' form. Just like Sumire, Tsukasa can wander around the school as he likes. (little troublemaker <3 yes! not any troublemaker but an awesome one too! <3) Tsukasa is connected to No.7 (his twin who he killed) and Tsukasa is so important to Amane and she got that from ch 17 & 45. So? there is nothing to stop her from knowing what he is. As I said, after ch 68 or extremely ch 82... she can know what he is, even while feeling sleepy.

I mean, she did get to the fact that Tsukasa is Hanako's yorishiro in chapter 95. If she thought before there is no way he can be a yorishiro, then she wouldn't consider him an option in the first place, but she did. And, I see nothing to stop her from doing so before as well.

Not to say that really... it felt to me that she got to the fact that Sumire is a yorishiro by only seeing her seal. It's the only thing she pointed out while thinking about it... but I still went in depth with everything else I assume.

And, I have to say... I don't know whether to be surprised or a bit disappointed to see Nene, who wants to know all about Amane, While knowing: 1- He is a mystery. 2- He is the leader of them. 3- knows each of the 7 has their own yorishiro... yet...

1- The thing of Amane having a yorishiro didn't seem to cross her mind (he is a mystery so he as one). 2- Never once questioned herself about what might Amane's yorishiro be. 3- Never wondered about the fact that he said "he has a plan of destroying all the 7 Yorishiros", which means he was eventually going to have her destroy his own too one day. I feel surprised she didn't ever stop to think that one day she will come around destroying his yorishiro or what might it even be. But, I think I can't go so hard on her, she still has a long way to go and lots of things to learn. (and I don't want to ruin my fun of reading the manga because of such thoughts, everything will come on its time, I should only wait, still... I can talk about these things in some posts for fun)

Speaking about that... she still wonders whether she should keep on destroying the Yorishiros or not even after knowing about Tsukasa and her possible death if all are Yorishiros are destroyed.

Nene-chan....

Though, I get why she didn't talk with Amane about whatever she found out about his and Tsukasa's past or about the fact that Tsukasa is his yorishiro. After all, she is a simple and normal girl and this is too much on her. I understand.

Now then, going back to the main course...

For a bit of reference for both you and me on the posts I talked about this "Nene / yorishiro Tsukasa" thing in... here they are...

Apparently, things started with this thing...

X then this thing X , X , X ........

Maybe you didn't take a look at them all? Maybe it would be fun for you to see them.... each one has a way of her to find out... according to different settings. I have to say after giving them a look after so long, I enjoyed them. Maybe if you don't think the same way as I do, you could still find them fun in some way.

And wow, I think I should say thanks! because of this ask I thought about this thing from a whole different angle yet again and got to 2 almost-new ways for her to find out... so fun! I had so much fun answering this! If you find any part difficult to understand, or want to point other things out, let me know! ^^

Have a nice day ahead of you, Anon!

#ah... didn't think i will come back to this thing one day #how fun!#thanks for sharing your thoughts with me! they were so much fun to read and to dive into!#hope you find this answer to your help!

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