#anti sith apologists

[xryin]

Joining the sith would be the edgiest and aesthetically appealing to teenagers and children

Most of the mentally and emotionally stunted people thinking it’s cool to wipe out entire planets because they want to test out a new planet busting weapon

[jedi-enthusiast]

I am once again asking anti-Jedi people to get the fuck off my page--and yes, this poster was specifically anti-Jedi because they literally made a post about "sure the Jedi are better than the Sith, but anyone can be better than those and the Jedi are still evil/red flags/etc."

I have made it very clear through many of my posts and my fucking blog description that I don't tolerate anti-Jedi propaganda on my blog, but apparently I haven't been clear enough--so here's another:

KEEP YOUR FUCKING ANTI-JEDI BULLSHIT OFF MY FUCKING BLOG, EITHER POST IT ON YOUR OWN BLOG OR SHUT THE FUCK UP ON MINE

Is that clear enough for you assholes?

Now, first of all, on the post this was commented on I didn't even mention Athena Andreadis and I want to make it clear that 1. I've never even heard of this person and 2. I've never read this essay. I was just venting about how I can't talk about SW without some anti-Jedi jackasses popping in with comments on how "the Jedi were evil," but apparently now I can't even fucking complain about SW shit without anti-Jedi jackasses popping in their two-cents.

The irony.

Now, I've looked up several iterations of "Athena Andreadis strange horizons anti-Jedi essay" and I cannot find it--so I won't be picking apart the specific points made, since I can't find them, but I will be picking apart the general points here.

First of all, I have no idea how being anti-Jedi could possibly be seen as a "feminist" thing.

Like...there are plenty of female Jedi, most are viewed in-canon by other Jedi--both male and female--as good and wise (how fandom views them is out of my control), there are female Jedi in leadership positions, there are both modest and non-modest dressing Jedi and neither of them are viewed negatively for how they dress--nor do any Jedi comment on how they dress, they're diverse in both their looks and beliefs, as far as I'm aware there aren't any rules the Jedi follow that are specific to the women...

Like, I'm just not seeing how the Jedi Order is sexist or how it's feminist to be anti-Jedi.

Can singular characters be sexist? Yes, of course, obviously. But unless I'm remembering wrong, it's actually Anakin (y'know, the baby-murderer guy who's horrible at being a Jedi and turns into a fucking Sith Lord?) who's shown to be sexist in SW media. Other than his behavior, I don't really remember other Jedi being shown as sexist--someone feel free to correct me if I'm forgetting something, though.

Second, the Jedi also didn't want to join the war, but they had no better options.

It is made clear throughout the movies and TCW that the Jedi don't want to be generals in this war, Mace Windu even spells it out for Palpatine by saying "we are keepers of the peace, not soldiers" in AotC. However, in the end, they're forced to take up the role in order to work towards the greater good.

There's literally an entire episode in TCW where the "the Jedi should've just been pacifists and not fought" thing is addressed, and there have been many many posts made by many people about how the Jedi did the right thing and also about what might've happened if they didn't--I specifically recommend looking at @antianakin and @david-talks-sw's posts, if you want an actual in-depth response on those.

I'm not gonna regurgitate their points on this post, but I will pose you the same questions I did on the post this comment was under:

So the Jedi should've just stood by while Dooku conquered and enslaved the rest of the galaxy? That would've been better than them fighting to protect the people and planets Dooku was enslaving?

Finally, everything we're shown about the Jedi in-universe--and what we know of child development irl--shows that the Jedi's way of life isn't harmful, and is even helpful, in childhood development.

First of all, we're gonna dispel the myth that the Jedi teach emotional suppression--what they do teach is emotional regulation which, as others have pointed out, is something taught in therapy and is a good and healthy thing.

But guess what? You also teach emotional regulation to children at a very young age!

When your child is throwing a tantrum, screaming and breaking things, and just generally losing it because they're unhappy with something, what do you do? If you're a good parent, you-

1. help them calm down.

2. teach them how to work through their emotions in a healthy way for next time (taking deep breaths, counting to ten, walking off the anger, etc.).

and 3. talking with them about what made them upset and helping them understand why they were upset so they can avoid it or deal with it better next time.

All of that is emotional regulation. Parents all around the world teach it to their kids every day because it is healthy, and just because the Jedi need to emphasize teaching it more than most because Force-sensitives are susceptible to the Dark Side doesn't mean that it's any less healthy than regular people teaching it.

Secondly, the Jedi Order is a community and--like it or not--it's shown that children raised in a community setting are actually generally better off than children raised strictly in the nuclear family model because they have more support and access to a more diverse pool of opinions, beliefs, and people. All of which we see reflected in the Jedi Order--community support and teaching.

Anakin fell specifically because he didn't follow the Jedi's teachings, and even he was a fucking outlier. The Jedi that fell in the Prequels either fell because of the War (which was orchestrated by Palpatine) or because they were directly manipulated by Palpatine. Neither of those things had anything to do with Jedi teachings and all but one of the Jedi that fell were adults, again all of which except one that lived in the Order perfectly fine for years until Palpatine started doing shit.

Now that that's covered, I'm gonna make my own point.

All of you "the Jedi deserved their genocide crowd" people sound like fucking Nazis and fascists.

Everyone who's saying that "the Jedi were the real bad guys" have like 0 media literacy and obviously take issue with anything that isn't strictly following western ideals--and, frankly, I think you're all willfully being ignorant and stupid at this point.

When you're anti-Jedi, those are the people you're aligning with.

Now, it's none of my business what you believe or what you post on your own time, but keep it the fuck off my page.

This is my space.

Keep your shitty opinions to yours.

[short-wooloo]

I'm not saying sith/empire stans are fascists, they just have a tendency to unironically parrot (or worse believe) fascist rhetoric

[siennahrobek]

It’s interesting how much blame people will lay and how varying it is. How opposite. The Jedi didn’t give him special treatment because of his power/status. The Jedi didn’t treat him normal like one of their own. Obi-Wan was too critical. Obi-Wan didn’t pay enough attention to him. The Jedi didn’t allow Anakin to have friends/acquaintances outside of the Order. The Jedi allowed him to be friends with Palpatine. Obi-Wan didn’t save Anakin on Mustafar. Obi-Wan didn’t kill Anakin on Mustafar. Literally everywhere one turns, not only does the blame lay at someone else’s feet aside from Anakin Skywalker, but apparently there is no right answer either. Even if you could place any blame on someone else for his choices, either way it’s a two headed snake. It’s never been enough for people.

Star Wars is a lot of things. It’s about a lot of things. Family, hope, compassion, forgiveness, redemption, tragedy, war, peace, the goodness in people. But all in all, it’s about choices.

Star Wars is about choices. People make choices in these stories and they aren’t generally forced into any of them. It’s about agency, the ability to make those choices and owning up to them. And guess what? Anakin made the choices he did without anyone forcing him to do them. He made those choices knowing exactly what he was doing and exactly how wrong it was.

And the point is, that people allow him to make those choices. They can’t make them for him. He has to make those choices. And he doesn’t want to.

Anakin doesn’t want to make choices.

But in the end, of every episode, every movie, every defining moment, he makes a choice anyways. And until the end, none of them come out the way he wants them too.

Because he wants both, he wants it all. He doesn’t want to choose.

[nateofgreat]

What’s interesting about the anti-Jedi sentiment in the Star Wars fandom is how the Jedi are often criticized for contradictory things. Everyone seems to have created their own caricature of the Jedi Order in their heads that they use to condemn them no matter what they do.

For example... (All the following examples are probably the minority in the fanbases I’ll be mentioning so please don’t take this as me insulting the fandoms for any of these things.)

-To the Anakin fans the Jedi Order are a bunch of mean bullies who only ever conspire to keep Anakin down and make his life worst. In their eyes the Jedi maliciously left Shmi in slavery, cruelly persecuted him for being a heroic maverick, and would happily ruin his and Padme’s life if they found out about their marriage.

-To the KOTOR 2 fans the Jedi Order are rampant pacifists who’ll happily watch the Galaxy be bombed into oblivion if it means they maintain moral superiority over others.

-To the Prequel fans the Jedi Order are warmongers who should’ve refused to go to war with the Separatists because they’re supposed to be peacekeepers who never fight.

-To the “simultaneously reading too deep and not deep enough” fans the Jedi are slavers who created and command a slave army of Clones to slaughter their enemies.

-To the Gray Jedi fans the Jedi Order is an imbalance and corruption of the Force that must be annihilated and reformed for the crime of controlling their emotions and being involved in politics.

-To the Sith apologists the Jedi are cruel persecutors who force the poor Sith Empire’s hand by trying to stop them whenever they invade the Galaxy.

-To the contrarian fan who just likes to disagree with Lucas the Jedi are complacent in slavery for not launching a violent crusade against slavery outside the Republic.

And so on...

As you’ll notice a lot of these don’t fit together too well. They can’t both be true and in most cases neither are true. It’s fine to not like the Jedi if they’re not your cup of tea or to think there were some oversights in the writing itself. That’s totally fine.

But these weird conceptions of the Jedi are being this wholly malevolent or stupidly flawed group is a little peculiar given how heroic they’re routinely shown to be.

[lily-orchard-gossip-blog]

https://at.tumblr.com/lily-orchard/if-someone-was-going-to-fix-the-vandalism-on-tsrs/nr3yx6bjxkli

Oh god this is *wheeze* ok I'm not gonna analyse everything in this nonsense but I want to point 2 things:

First of all it's hilarious that all of Lily's black characters is connected to slavery. One way or another. Like, Finn is a slave now (not a child soldier like he was), Mayrik is a slave trafficker, and Aliana both anti slavery activist AND slave trafficker apologist. The only exception is Aliana's dad but... does anyone actually care about him? Do readers even remember his name? Lmao

And second of all, Leia dislikes Aliana for being the sith, no? You know one of those people who GENOCIDED her people and destroyed bombed her planet into pieces almost for loolz? Isn't Lily's whole morality thing about NOT forgiving those who hurt you or other people??

I just find it funny that it's described as vandalism, as if she didn't decide to just keep half of the changes that the so called "vandal" made.

Like "This is okay, but that doesn't fit my vision so it needs to go."

Also...

That's a REALLY big yikes that ALL of Lily's prominent black characters are all related to slavery. And she doesn't even realize how that's actually a problem!

There is way to much slavery going on in that fic, I swear.

[autistic-ben-tennyson]

I hate having to make this post, but if you’re in the Star Wars or Pokemon fandom and are pro Jedi, or just a decent human being, do yourself a favor and block otnesse, aka weedlemchairybug. He’s still at his hateful rambling after a decade. He’ll try to deny saying anything hateful but I ask, is this YOU?

They’re honestly a right wing fascist who simps for Anakin and the empire because Lucas used the Vietcong as an inspiration for the rebels. Because his family suffered under communism, he sees that as an excuse to be a bigoted POS. No wonder they’re an Anakin apologist, a person who uses his trauma and suffering as an excuse to be an ass, just like him.

@captainsway I’ve seen him reblog posts and agree with stuff from you know who (tragicfantasy-girl) which says everything I need to know. They’re an anti Romani racist as well who thinks Frollo was right to kill them in hunchback and has used the G slur, so they just simp for fictional Nazis. Btw, using autism as an excuse to be a POS doesn’t look good when many of us are autistic too and understand what “only a sith deals in absolutes” actually means.

A while back I made a rant about Anakin stans tending to be right wing sympathizers and he basically proved my points by simping for Trump and Desantis.

I could go on and on, but I didn’t want to get sucked into a long debate about communism vs the US and his hate boner for the Jedi council, so I just dropped it. If you don’t want to be called a bigot or a fascist, stop acting like one and own up to your mistakes. I’m not saying the pro Jedi fandom is free of skeletons or bigots but the amount of Stanakins I’ve seen who are transphobic, “anti woke”, grifters, and Christian nationalists is astounding (caripr94, fanfic-lover-girl, Star Wars Theory). Don’t feed them or enable their trolling, just block and ignore.

[hopeymchope]

Honestly, anon is beginning to think "fandom culture itself" is the problem, rather than just Puella Magica fans. Modern pop culture fans just seem to have very warped moral compasses in general. The Once Upon a Time fandom makes excuses for Regina Mills raping a man, a man in the FE3H fandom threatened to lynch anyone who doesn't like Edelgard (and the Edelgard Discord agreed with him), the Star Wars fandom excuses the Sith's racism, and the New Vegas fandom has Caesar's Legion apologists.

I hadn't thought to throw this into the same pit with "People who think Hiyoko Saionji did nothing wrong," but... no, you're right, it's totally the same pit. (I also didn't realize I was tipping my hand quite this blatantly about which side I'm on when I posted that poll, but... hoo boy, am I EVER on the side you presumed.)

It's not like Puella Magi Madoka Magica: Rebellion was subtle about the conclusion's implications. The voice acting, the visual presentation, the dialogue, the music, everything was VERY VERY SUPER-DOUBLE-PLUS OBVIOUS about this being BAaAaAaAaAaAaAaD.

But the utterly fucking bugnuts Reddit PMMM community somehow sees it the entire OPPOSITE way, and any post to the contrary is shouted down, gets zero upvotes, etc. Every post about how you-know-who is purely heroic and entirely justified gets tons of upvotes, everybody else gets told they don't fucking get it, and it is fucking INSANE.

I didn't know Regina raped a guy?! WTF and WHY TF??? Like I've said before, didn't watch a lot of that show.

Edelgard is highly problematic by design. That's like, her whole thing. It is both the appeal and the anti-appeal of her character/narrative — the "by ANY means necessary, kill-your-friends-if-you-have-to" way she sets out to make her world (theoretically?) better. If you try to make her non-controversial, you're missing the whole goddamn point of the narrative. I don't know why anyone would WANT that. You're just killing your babies.

And speaking of "Why would anyone want that": Why would anyone ever excuse the fucking Sith's ANYTHING? They are murderers and oppressors. They are legit rotting from the inside-out due to embracing darkness so hard. They are so known for betraying and backstabbing each other that it's literally built into their own rules of operation! And there are people who think these are the heroes?

[foundfamilynonsense]

Do not let anyone shame you by saying “it’s just fiction”

The number of Star Wars posts where jedi antis spew hate and then, when called out, immediately go “woah, woah man. This is just fiction. It’s about space wizards. Why you so upset, none of this matters. Touch grass.”

Like stfu. You’re the ones who couldn’t live with the fact that the empire was based off of your political party. I guarantee to first jedi antis were conservative, neo nazis who went “wait this is a loved piece of media that I personally enjoy. I can’t be the bad guys!” And started the same type of smear campaign they do for everything else they disagree with.

They want to control women’s body’s and force them not to have abortions so they spout nonsense about liberals wanting to kill babies. Even though they personally didn’t believe fetuses were babies and didn’t actually care about kids. And then people followed them because killing babies is catchy and if that’s the only argument you hear…

And they do the same thing with the jedi. The Jedi repress emotions. The sith are just trying to accept their emotions. They use words like cult and abducting babies. Which are catchy. Sound familiar?

Don’t believe anyone when they say it’s just fiction. If they can use the same tactics to spread hate and be fascist apologists for these movies that they use in real life you can be just as passionate about fighting them.

And yes. If you say the sith are better than the Jedi, you are a fascist apologist. Maybe you don’t mean to, maybe you just heard it so many times you believed it. Maybe you didn’t think that hard about it. That’s fine, it’s even harder to ignore the blatant misinformation in fandom than it is in the real world. But the sith are fascists. Liking them as characters is one thing but saying they are better than the Jedi morally is supporting fascism.

These Jedi antis aren’t “too stupid to understand media made for children” they are actively using misinformation to rewrite Star Wars because they can’t stand that they are the bad guys. That there’s a powerful black man in a position of power. That the jedi were based of a religion that’s not Christianity.

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#5

reasons the kotor cast would get canceled, a post:

Revan: age gap relationships

Malak: killing Revan was homophobic

Bastila: British

Carth: his entire romance

Juhani: bad lgbt rep

Jolee: gaslighting

Canderous: wears a tank top

Zaalbar: hangs out with a teenager

Mission: war crime apologist

HK: anti-human racist

T3: cannot be understood by half the ship

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#4

See the full post

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#3

drawing sad jedi is a coping mechanism ok

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#2

savior, hero, conqueror, villain

enormous thanks to @stellorc for this comm of my Revan that i keep forgetting to upload! it's absolutely full of symbolism - Jedi Revan before the end of the Mandalorian Wars is pictured, but behind the broken mirror is her Sith counterpart and a vision of the true Sith Empire, the same vision that would drive her to seek out Vitiate after Malachor. Revan has had visions of Vitiate and the Empire since she was a child, but only after Malachor did he fully reveal himself to her, leading her out beyond the known galaxy in search of him.

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My #1 post of 2022

"canderous is a good mand'alor because he unites the clans" "canderous is a good mand'alor because he's a strong warrior" WRONG. canderous ordo is a good mand'alor because he follows mandalore the indomitable's proud tradition of getting his ass kicked by a hot jedi and immediately wanting said jedi to fuck him. there are no other criteria

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[short-wooloo]

It's very interesting just how many people buy into the notion that the sith were the victims of a genocide perpetrated by the Jedi, because:

1. This is an eu thing, and thus has no influence, impact, or mention in the films, because eu does not inform higher canon,

2. This is a legends eu thing, and definitely does not belong in the context of new post 2014 eu and higher canon,

and 3. This is literal in-universe propaganda, it's a sham, a story to get the people of the sith empire riled up, instill in them a sense of vengeance or that their way of life is under attack or threatened, that they must commit genocide in turn, all to get them to willingly die for tyrannical overlords who don't give a damn about these people's lives

What's really disturbing is this is yet another case of the sith taking a page out of the nazis playbook and people are just buying it hook line and sinker

A central aspect of hitler and the nazis insane beliefs was that there was a Jewish conspiracy trying to destroy germany, and that because of this they "had" to exterminate the Jews in order to "save the aryan race"

(Important to note, but the Jedi already have numerous similarities and serve as stand ins for Jewish people)

This isn't to say that the real life people who buy the sith's propaganda are nazis, just that they would have absolutely been fooled by/bought into nazi propaganda if they lived in germany at the time, given how an obviously untrue piece of in-universe propaganda can fool them,

[ukyokuonji]

Rip, I'm screaming rn. Anon that asked me like a month ago what my name is, I thought I answered and realized I didn't and answered on mobile today and somehow lost the ask, so lmao here is both my name and a mini landing page as I am working on my current landing page!!

Quick about, byf/dni, and things to tag.

Again my landing page is a wip, should be here soon!! Mayybe under a cut who knows I'm on mobile.

About

Call me Ami or Katara!! I'm 20 (almost 21), a fat disabled queer nb woc (no being non-binary and a woman of color is not an oxymoron). I use she/they pronouns.

I'm latine and desi! I live in the US (New England lmao 😔) which like I don't think is important then I find out that some of my mutuals are canadian or british or something and I lose my mind.

Puedo hablar español pero tengo difícil escribiendo en español. Y entiendo que eso no tiene sentido porque leer en español es más fácil de leer en inglés. Pero cuando estoy escribiendo en inglés estoy pensando de las reglas de español, y en español estoy pensando con las reglas de inglés 🙃. My extent of speaking in any sort of desi language is saying hi, bye, "I don't know", "hurry up", food names, and family titles in my family's language. And even then I mess up because my cousins are all married now (and have been for years) and I'm meeting their spouses now and being told there's a word for sister's husband, I don't have to call them bhai, and yeah

[ID: A person sitting on the ground holding their face in their arms. Their eyes are closed, and their mouth is open as if screaming. End ID]

Before you follow/Do Not Interact

DNI

- General DNI criteria (racist, homophobic, transphobic, radfem/terf, misogynistic, islamophobic, anti-semitic, xenophobic, pedo apologist, incest shipper/apologist, etc.)

- If you "age up" fictional characters who are minors to write smut fics about them.

- Can't think critically about the media you consume, and think that popular pieces of media/fiction doesn't affect reality

- If you ship real people

- If you support jkr in any way, shape, or form

BYF

- Minors can follow, but would appreciate it if you're 14 or older. I say this as someone who's been on tumblr since before the age of 14, and am hoping to impart some of my wisdom onto you

- I'm super critical of all my media interests, and very vocal about pieces of media/characters I don't like! If that bothers you, don't follow!!

- I hate t*ylor sw*ft. I'm a classical musician and I actually have a lot of reasons both of just her music and how she presents herself to the public. Yeah I hate her 😘

- I don't really have a tagging system, (I'm trying but it's hard) so if you like neatness, dont follow!! Will tag trigger warnings tho!! Ask if you need something tagged.

- I try and reblog images/videos with descriptions, but that's hard and time consuming so sometimes I don't. If you see me like a post of yours and it doesn't get reblogged for like four months that's because I started writing an ID, got interrupted, and saved it as a draft and haven't had a chance to finish it.

Things to tag

- General triggers (violence, death, assault, racism, etc)

- Flashing lights

- Sharks

- Clowns

Yeah thanks!!

[ID: An edited screencap of Anakin Skywalker from Revenge of the Sith. He is in a spaceship, and his profile is visible. He has a communicator headset on, and is speaking into it with a smirk. The caption reads "This is where the fun begins." On the left side of his face is a semi-transparent behind-the-scenes photo of Hayden Christensen dressed as Anakin. His hair is messy and stuck to his forehead, his gaze is downward and dull, his lips are in a tight line. He looks defeated. End ID]

[gch1995]

I seriously have to say that yours is the blog I never knew I needed. You have yourself a new follower!

Thanks! Yeah, unfortunately, many of the Jedi/Republic apologists and Kenobists in this fandom are pretty vicious. As you saw with that post about the completely valid point that @wingletblackbird made about the consent issues involved in Luke’s and Leia’s adoption, even when we try to stay in our own lane and avoid them, there a number of them who will still hijack our posts, gaslight us, say that “you just want to fuck Anakin, and either insinuate that you are or outright call you “stupid,” “racist,” “a genocide apologist,” “chid hater,” “a Holocaust denier,” “western predjudiced,” and in the case of @wingletblackbird’s post, “anti adoptive parents,” even though that’s not what she said at all.

You know why the “closed adoption” argument doesn’t work for Luke and Leia, while it does work for a character like Grogu in regards to Din Djarinn adopting him? Luke and Leia’s parents still had relatives, and Bail Organa, Yoda, and Obi-Wan would have at least known about the Naberries.

By contrast, Grogu is a foundling toddler and survivor of Order 66 who doesn’t have any known surviving relatives. Din Djarinn adopting him without any official record during war time/aftermath of a genocide in that situation is completely valid closed adoption.

I have given the naysayers a taste of their own medicine on a few occasions and hijacked their posts, if only because they completely dominate tumblr, but I usually try to avoid them because it’s impossible to argue them without them completely drowning you out and making valid points about their favorite fictional Star Wars characters on the “right” side being deeply flawed.

To them, only Anakin Skywalker is allowed to be criticized for his flaws from the series. Yeah. We know he committed reprehensible crimes against many people who didn’t deserve it. We know he became a monster, at least in part, due to his own bad choices. We know he developed a very ugly arrogant, cruel, domineering reckless, ruthless, self-centered, and vengeful streak at his worst.

Anakin Skywalker is generally the main character of most Star Wars content. We know where he came from. We know what motivates him. We know loyalty and love for family and friends either makes him or breaks him. We know he is brave, kind, and selfless at best, while being horrifyingly arrogant, cruel, and selfish at worst. We see nearly every good thing he has done and every terrible thing he has done under a magnifying glass with consequences that ultimately follow him sooner or later for better or worse because most of Star Wars is his story, for better and worse. It’s primarily his character arc and story we’re focusing on in Star Wars, so everything about his character and arc is pretty complex, dynamic, relatable, and well-developed when taken altogether.

However, many of the major side characters in Star Wars are also deeply flawed people, but because they’re not the main characters and/or they’re on the “right” side, they don’t really evolve much at all, except for Luke. Their atrocities aren’t examined. That’s why fandom should look at them more critically.

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, but the old Jedi Order and Republic was essentially a watered down version of the Empire and Sith. Anakin and Palpatine were not the only messed up characters in that society. They all were.

@mynameisanakin

@tragicfantasy-girl

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[nateofgreat]

I know part of this comes from how Tumblr’s search engine operates but there’s no reason for the “pro jedi dni” tag to exist for any reason other than to be an absolute jerk to pro jedi fans. Like you couldn’t just stick the regular anti/critical tags? I’m sure most of us blocked have those tags already so why try to appropriate a tag for positive jedi discussion. Also if they really didn’t want heat then don’t include the fake apologetic “sorry, not sorry” phrase. God I’m sick of the Palpatine/Sith Apologists.

I've only seen one post that uses that tag so far and I don't think it was Jedi critical, but I do wonder what the purpose of that tag even is. If there are others I can't see (because I blocked them) then that is a rather hostile method of tagging your posts.

Like I'm all for someone being able to use the general tags for characters/topics/whatever that they don't like but coming up with a new tag that serves the same purpose as the "Jedi critical" tag just so the Pro Jedi people will have to see the posts is a really strange thing to do.

[messiisgodibeliveinhim]

Anti-Jedi Anakin apologists are really something, huh? They have made blaming Jedi, especially Obi-Wan for the Anakin's fall as their personality trait and its hilarious.

I'm not gonna say Jedi are perfect but the lengths that these stans go to justify Anakin's choices are way too much.

Here's why-

- Anakin was an adult when he chose to fall to the Darkside.

- Palpatine was the one who manipulated him, not the Jedi.

- Jedi have taught thousands of other force sensitive beings and other than a few exceptions, everyone else has always chosen the light side.

- Jedi were not aware that Palpatine was an evil Sith lord. They had no way of knowing that he was manipulating Anakin.

- Jedi don't isolate their students from the outside world. They are allowed to interact with other people, hence they didnt stop Anakin from seeing Palpatine.

- Unlike what some assume, Jedi do teach techniques and ways to learn how to let of desire, fear, anger, hate etc. Not just fighting with lightsabres. If Anakin chose not to follow other Jedi and use those techniques to let go of those emotions, then that's on him.

- Yes, Jedi are taken when they are children. But they not stolen. They are taken only with the parents' consent (and the child's, if he/she was old enough). The children are brought to the temple with the willingness to teach them how to control the force. If a student or a knight or a master wants to leave the order, they were free to do so.

Like i said, Jedi are not perfect, but this weird obsession with making Jedi the villains needs to stop. Anakin had many choices ahead of him and he chose the wrong one. That's not because of the Jedi, that's because of Sheev's manipulation and his unwillingness to practice the Jedi teachings. I've seen way too many half baked 'Jedi Bad' posts and i feel my braincells rotting away😭

Find an actual hobby please 🙏🏽

[passionesolja]

This isn’t an anti Jedi or pro sith post. This is just me being straight up about why being a Jedi isnt realistic for most people, Jedi apologist included.

Let’s say right now, you dropped into the Star Wars universe with force powers.

You gon be a Jedi, until a muhfucker cuts you in line at the space dmv.

You gon be a Jedi until you having a bad day and someone says some crazy shit to you and you snap.

You gon be a Jedi until you booted up listening to Dead Trollz by Nba Youngboy.

Basically, being a Jedi is easy when you ain’t got real shit going on.

No worries.

No high stakes interactions.

No stress.

No negativity.

What I’m tryna say is that being a Jedi is super easy if you grew up in the peaceful Jedi temple, but unrealistic if you not.

Jedi literally are raised around none of the regular and normal stressors people have.

They don’t have family problems, money problems, the stress of living in a planet/place that ain’t that good, not knowing what the future will bring, etc.

Real life bullshit that turns a person heartless and self-interested.

What I’m tryna say, is that the Jedi come from the best planet in the Republic and have the most privileged position within that planet.

Yeah, it’s easy as hell to be a emotionally grounded and Jedi-minded when literally everything is provided to you, you’re in a perfect world, and sheltered from the galaxy—for the most part.

I’m not hating on the Jedi, but let’s not act like they ain’t the most privileged demographic in the Star Wars galaxy.