#anti viserys i

[witchy-v1xen]

There's not a day when I won't feel sorry for her. He never deserved her or any of his children. Ironically, he killed Aemma for a son only to eventually gain not just one but three and neglect them. He traumatized a teenage girl for the rest of her life, using her and leaving her in the dust like she wasn't shit.  

[thesunfyre4446]

viserys : marries a 14yo without her consent, has 4 children with her that pose a threat to rheanyra's reign and will be killed once she takes the throne, refuses to change his heir or marry his firstborn daughter to his firstborn son to prevent a succession crisis, neglects his children, doesn't prepare his chosen heir for her role and ignores her mistakes, doesn't even try to make peace, appoints his son's grandfather as his hand knowing damn well that he wants his grandson on the throne and allows him to take control of the capitol, thinks that one dinner solves 20 years of hatred, dies

the dance of the dragon : happens

TB stans : this is all alicent's fault! and if you disagree then you hate women.

[agentrouka-blog]

"I will never be a son."

Viserys made Rhaenyra feel second-rate to an imaginary son all her life growing up, until the one moment he had no choice and made er his heir. Suddenly she herself mattered.

Then he immediately went and took it away, made it conditional on his whims, created several spares that could displace her. He made the initial trauma worse by seemingly repenting only to double down on the message that she herself can never be enough.

It's entirely logical that she would spend the rest of her life both clinging to that title that proves daddy loves her and testing the boundaries to which Viserys will defend her by deliberately flaunting all limitations this title imposes on her life choices. If she gave up that title, even if it would make her both safer and happier in the long term, those imaginary-turned-real sons win and Rhaenyra will truly only be second best forever. And she can't work for it, can't prove herself worthy of it, because that means accepting the title (and his regard) is conditional. She has to have it specifically in spite of every outrageous transgression.

Viserys trapped her in chasing after his love the same way he trapped his children by Alicent into a life of conflict. They exist to put pressure on Rhaenrya as rival spares, and they exist to prove he loves her by choosing her over them at every opportunity. There is no option where they can ever be at peace, ever be safe.

I kind of hate that the show didn't lean into that more. Viserys is such a slithering slime of a father and he deserved the worst.

[terrorofthetrident]

viserys really looked at their heart-wrenchingly sad faces and completely disregarded them

[alicent-archive]

Her horrible night hasn't even begun yet, and she's already picking at her fingers ☹️

It just makes you wonder how many countless nights she had to endure this. How many times she was woken up because Viserys desired her, and her being able to do NOTHING about it.

She can't refuse the King; he's her husband. She can't refuse her husband; he's the King.

Alicent has to do her duty, and pleasing the King IS her duty.

Even though he mocked her in the Godswood in front of Daemon and Rhaenyra. Even though he laughed in her face. Even though he consistently demonstrates that he thinks less and less of her with each passing day.

Alicent Hightower—despite the late hour, despite the mockery, and despite her dissociating during the act—goes to the King and does her duty.

[chemicalreal]

Viserys is just as despicable as Daemon and Otto, except in a different way

It's weird enough how King Viserys is widely well seen by the audience despite his evident selfishness, which is perhaps one of the most pronounced traits throughout the show. This perception is predominantly fueled by Rhaenyra's camp, who views Viserys' unequal treatment of his children in her favor as a redeeming quality of his character.

The subtle detail of Rhaenyra eagerly desiring a sister while her mother is still pregnant often goes unnoticed, just like her displease of the life she is supposed to endure going through many difficult pregnancies. Her strong insistence that it will be a girl contrasts with her father's wishes, hinting at an awareness of the changing dynamics within the royal family in case a boy is born. Despite spending her early years as the king's only child, the frequent pregnancies of Rhaella imply the king's persistent efforts to secure a male heir to the throne.

Therefore, Rhaenyra is effectively being sidelined as a potential heir in favor of a yet-to-be-born phantom brother. The king's intense desire for a male heir leads him to make the drastic decision of sacrificing his own wife during childbirth. While it's understandable that a mother would prioritize her child's life over her own, the scene becomes disturbing due to Aemma's clear distress and pleas for help let alone the fact that she was literally cut open while being awake, highlighting the king's unwavering determination that will lead to others suffering and this is a leit motive for the rest of his life, be it physically or emotionally.

The claim that Viserys, a now seasoned king, was manipulated by a teenager into marriage is one of the most absurd ones in this fandom, especially if we take into account how Alicent is portrayed. In reality, it was another self-centered choice driven by his own desires. Alicent, despite being urged by her ambitious father to seduce the grieving king (much to her horror), maintains the demeanor of a respectable lady. During her time with Viserys, the focus is on shared interests such as history and books, creating a dynamic more akin to a father spending time with his daughter. Alicent even mends the temporary rift between him and Rhaenyra giving him genuine advice. Viserys undoubtedly married Alicent out of his own desire, not coercion as some suggest. The scene where he announces it reveals Alicent's almost shocked reaction, indicating her lingering hope that he might not proceed with the idea. If Viserys were a virtuous man, he would have found Alicent a suitable match with a respected lord to acknowledge her services and simultaneously spite her father's ulterior motives.

Viserys continues to treat Alicent as an object throughout their marriage, often demanding her to fulfill his physical needs, even after he is plagued by illness and Alicent shown to be visibly uncomfortable because of it. After a somewhat "honeymoon" phase, which is still marred by a strained relationship between Alicent and Rhaenyra which puts the former in isolation despite her efforts to show support for her as the heir, Viserys is suddenly consumed by guilt for his actions towards Aemma. At this point, Alicent and their son Aegon (and by consequence their future three children) cease to exist for him. It's important to highlight that despite this epiphany and subsequent emotional neglect, Viserys' requests for physical intimacy with Alicent persist, which only makes him more of an hypocrite who still can't help but indulge in his selfish needs at the expense of others.

Viserys' insensitivity towards Alicent is further emphasized when Daemon returns to King's Landing and both he and Viserys mock Alicent's attempts at conversation about the new tapestries. Even Rhaenyra is visibly appalled by their behavior and chooses to support Alicent to prevent her from feeling humiliated. The temporary resumption of friendship between the two women adds layers to their tragedy, as their later falling out is ultimately induced by the men who view them merely as tools of power.

In addition to Daemon's emotional hold on Rhaenyra that will lead to their scandalous marriage, Otto's influence over Alicent, and his manipulative schemes, Viserys perpetuates the conflict through his inaction and convenient stance in the middle ground. He neglects his other children, projecting guilt towards Aemma onto them and Alicent. While he outwardly shows love and favoritism for Rhaenyra and ignores her infractions, it seems more like a projection of guilt rather than genuine support, as he fails to take concrete steps to legitimize her ascension, especially now with the presence of sons. Viserys' actions ultimately work against Rhaenyra's favor, rather than supporting her. His handling of the family feud after Laena's funeral closes the door for any potential reconciliation between the queen and the princess.

The truce dinner in episode 8 is unmistakably a ticking time bomb. The Rubicon was crossed years ago, but Viserys prefers to maintain the illusion of a happy family, akin to the illusion of Alicent being Aemma, for his own peace of mind. Rather than addressing the underlying issues, he opts to create a facade to avoid dealing with the potential chaos of his family members turning against each other once he is gone.

In conclusion, Viserys embodies those problematic people who often evade accountability for their actions due to their seemingly kind and sympathetic demeanor. His ability to project an amiable facade masks the deeper issues and consequences of his decisions, allowing him to avoid the scrutiny he might otherwise face.

[alicentsgf]

criston's face when viserys insulted alicent is actually SO Insane. like the man was just looking at the king like that. in broad fucking daylight. blatantly willing viserys skull to explode victim-of-alys-rivers-psychic-witchery style. you know why he missed the kids sneaking out?? because he was busy standing over viserys in the dark armed with murderous intent

[burning-daylight]

obsessed with the idea of alicent looking at her children, who she so desperately want to love, but only seeing the face and features of the man who stole her youth and repeatedly r*ped her. but then, she begins to see rhaenyra in them. they have the same eyes, the same smile, the same arch of their nose. aemond loves dragons as much as rhaenyra. aegon is mischievous like rhaenyra. helaena looks so much like her. they may be viserys children, but they’re part rhaenyra. and that’s the part alicent loves the most

[witchy-v1xen]

𖤐⭒๋࣭ ⭑♛𖤐𝕋ℍ𝔼 ℚ𝕌𝔼𝔼ℕ 𝕄𝕆𝕋ℍ𝔼ℝ 𝔸𝕃𝕀ℂ𝔼ℕ𝕋 ℍ𝕀𝔾ℍ𝕋𝕆𝕎𝔼ℝ 𝕆𝔽 𝕋ℍ𝔼 𝕊𝔼𝕍𝔼ℕ 𝕂𝕀ℕ𝔾𝔻𝕆𝕄𝕊𖤐♛𖤐⭒๋࣭ ⭑

𝘞𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘐 𝘥𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘮𝘦? 𝘍𝘰𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘶𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘥𝘰𝘮, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘧𝘢𝘮𝘪𝘭𝘺, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘢𝘸. 𝘞𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘧𝘭𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘰 𝘥𝘰 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘴 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘦. 𝘞𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘥𝘶𝘵𝘺? 𝘞𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘴𝘢𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘧𝘪𝘤𝘦? 𝘐𝘵'𝘴 𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘥 𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘺 𝘧𝘰𝘰𝘵 𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯!" - 𝒜𝓁𝒾𝒸𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝐻𝒾𝑔𝒽𝓉𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇

ℂ𝔻: ℍ𝔼𝕃𝔸𝔽𝕀𝕃𝕄𝕊

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ᴵ ʰᵃᵛᵉ ᵈᵒⁿᵉ ᵐʸ ᵖᵃʳᵗ , ᴴᵃᵛᵉ ʸᵒᵘ ᵈᵒⁿᵉ ʸᵒᵘʳˢ? ᴵ ʰᵃᵛᵉ ᵈᵒⁿᵉ ᵐʸ ᵖᵃʳᵗ , ᴴᵃᵛᵉ ʸᵒᵘ ᵈᵒⁿᵉ ʸᵒᵘʳˢ? ᴵ ʰᵃᵛᵉ ᵈᵒⁿᵉ ᵐʸ ᵖᵃʳᵗ , ᴴᵃᵛᵉ ʸᵒᵘ ᵈᵒⁿᵉ ʸᵒᵘʳˢ?

ᴵ ˢʰᵃˡˡ ˢᵗʳⁱᵛᵉ ᶜᵒⁿᵗⁱⁿᵘᵒᵘˢˡʸ , ᴵ ʰᵃᵛᵉ ᵏᵉᵖᵗ ᵐʸ ᵖᵉᵃᶜᵉ , ᴴᵒʷ ᶜᵒᵘˡᵈ ᴵ ⁿᵒᵗ ᵇᵉʰᵃᵛᵉ?

ᴵ ˢᵃʷ ᵐʸ ᶠᵃᵗʰᵉʳ ᵃˢ ᵐʸ ˢᵃᵛⁱᵒʳ , ᵒⁿˡʸ ᶠᵒʳ ʰⁱᵐ ᵗᵒ ˡᵉᵃᵛᵉ ᵐᵉ.

ᴵ ᶜᵃᵘᵍʰᵗ ᵘᵖ ᵗᵒ ʰⁱˢ ᵗᵒˣⁱᶜ ᵗʳᵃⁱᵗˢ , ᴹʸ ʰᵃʳᵈ ʷᵒʳᵏ ᵐᵉᵃⁿᵗ ⁿᵒᵗʰⁱⁿᵍ , ᶠᵒʳ ʰᵉ ʰᵃˢ ᵈᵉᶜᵉⁱᵛᵉᵈ ᵐᵉ. ᴵ ᵃᵐ ᵃⁿ ᴵᵐᵃᵍᵉ ᵒᶠ ᵐʸ ᶠᵃᵗʰᵉʳ , ᴬᵐ ᴵ ⁿᵒᵗ?

ᴹʸ ᶜʰⁱˡᵈʳᵉⁿ ʰᵃᵛᵉ ᵐʸ qᵘᵃˡⁱᵗⁱᵉˢ ᵃⁿᵈ ˢʰᵃʳᵉ ᵗʰᵉ ˢᵃᵐᵉ ᵈᵉˢᵖⁱˢᵉ ᶠᵒʳ ᵐʸ ˢᵖᵒᵘˢᵉ ʰᵃˢ ᶜᵃᵘᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉⁱʳ ᵗᵒⁿᵍᵘᵉ ᶠᵒʳ qᵘᵉˢᵗⁱᵒⁿ. ᵂⁱˡˡ ᴵ ᵈⁱᵉ ᵃˡᵒⁿᵉ , ˢʰᵃˡˡ ᴵ ᵍʳⁱᵉᵛᵉ ᵗʰᵉᵐ ᵇᵘᵗ , ⁿᵒⁿᵉ ᵒᶠ ᵗʰᵉᵐ ᵃʳᵉ ˡᵉᶠᵗ ᵗᵒ ᵍʳⁱᵉᵛᵉ ᵐᵉ?

ᴵ ᵃᵐ ᵃˡʷᵃʸˢ ᵃʷᵃᵏᵉ ᵇᵘᵗ ⁿᵉᵛᵉʳ ˢˡᵉᵉᵖ. ᴹʸ ˢᵃᵈ ��ʸᵉˢ ᵃ ᵖʳᵒᵐⁱⁿᵉⁿᵗ ᵃᵉˢᵗʰᵉᵗⁱᶜ. ᴴᵃʳᵈˢʰⁱᵖˢ ᵗʰʳᵒᵘᵍʰ ᵗʰᵉ ʸᵉᵃʳˢ ᵃⁿᵈ ᵗʰᵉ ᵍᵒᵈˢ ʰᵃᵛᵉ ᵃᵗᵗᵉˢᵗᵉᵈ.

ᵀʰᵉ ᵍʰᵒˢᵗ ᵒᶠ ᵐʸ ʸᵒᵘᵗʰ ʰᵃˢ ʰᵃᵘⁿᵗᵉᵈ ᵐᵉ ᵗᵒ ⁿᵒ ᵉⁿᵈ , ᴵ ʷᵒᵘˡᵈ ⁿᵉᵛᵉʳ ᵍᵒ ᵇᵃᶜᵏ ᵃⁿᵈ ᵉˣᵖᵉʳⁱᵉⁿᶜᵉ ⁱᵗ ᵃᵍᵃⁱⁿ.

ᴵ ˢᵉᵉ ᵗʰᵉ ᵍⁱʳˡ ᴵ ᵒⁿᶜᵉ ᵏⁿᵉʷ , ˢʰᵉ'ˢ ᵃ ˢᵗʳᵃⁿᵍᵉʳ ᵗᵒ ᵐᵉ , ᴵ ʰᵉˡᵈ ᵃ ᵖᵃᵍᵉ ᶠᵒʳ ʰᵉʳ. ᵀʰᵉ ˡᵒⁿᵍᵉʳ ˢʰᵉ ᵏᵉᵖᵗ ⁱᵗ , ʰᵃᵈ ⁱᵗ ᵇᵉᶜᵒᵐᵉ ᵃ ᵇˡᵘʳ?

ᴵ ʷᵃⁿᵗ ᵗᵒ ᵇᵉ ᵗʰᵉ ˡᵃᵈʸ ᴵ ᵒⁿᶜᵉ ʷᵃˢ ʷⁱᵗʰ ⁿᵒ ᵐᵉᵐᵒʳʸ ᵒᶠ ᵗʰᵉ ᵗʳᵃᵍᵉᵈⁱᵉˢ. ᴵ ᵃᵐ ᶠʳᵒᵐ ᵃ ᵈⁱᶠᶠᵉʳᵉⁿᵗ ᵖᵃʳᵗ , ᵃⁿ ᴵˡⁱᵃᵈ ᵒᶠ ᵐʸ ᵒʷⁿ ᵒᵈʸˢˢᵉʸ.

ᴡʜʏ ᴀᴍ ɪ ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ᴍɪꜱɪɴᴛᴇʀᴘʀᴇᴛᴇᴅ ʙʏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴇɴ ᴀʀᴏᴜɴᴅ ᴍᴇ? ─ ⊹ ⊱꒰☆꒱⊰ ⊹ ─

ᴛʜᴇ ᴡᴀʏ ɪ ᴀᴍ, ɴᴏᴛ ꜱᴛʀᴏɴɢ ᴇɴᴏᴜɢʜ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴍᴀɴ ɪ ʟɪᴇ, ɪ ᴀᴍ ᴊᴜꜱᴛ ʟᴏᴡᴇʀɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴇxᴘᴇᴄᴛᴀᴛɪᴏɴꜱ ʜᴀʟꜰ ᴀ ᴍɪɴᴅ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴋᴇᴇᴘꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ᴏᴛʜᴇʀ ꜱᴇᴄᴏɴᴅ ɢᴜᴇꜱꜱɪɴɢ?

ᴄʟᴏꜱᴇ ᴍʏ ᴇʏᴇꜱ ᴀɴᴅ ᴄᴏᴜɴᴛ

ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ᴀɴ ᴀɴɢᴇʟ, ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ᴀ ɢᴏᴅ

ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ᴀɴ ᴀɴɢᴇʟ, ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ᴀ ɢᴏᴅ

ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ᴀɴ ᴀɴɢᴇʟ, ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ᴀ ɢᴏᴅ

ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ᴀɴ ᴀɴɢᴇʟ, ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ᴀ ɢᴏᴅ

ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ᴀɴ ᴀɴɢᴇʟ, ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ᴀ ɢᴏᴅ

ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ᴀɴ ᴀɴɢᴇʟ, ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ᴀ ɢᴏᴅ

ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ᴀɴ ᴀɴɢᴇʟ, ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ᴀ ɢᴏᴅ

ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ᴀɴ ᴀɴɢᴇʟ, ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ᴀ ɢᴏᴅ

ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ᴀɴ ᴀɴɢᴇʟ, ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ᴀ ɢᴏᴅ

ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ᴀɴ ᴀɴɢᴇʟ, ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ᴀ ɢᴏᴅ

ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ᴀɴ ᴀɴɢᴇʟ, ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ᴀ ɢᴏᴅ

ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ᴀɴ ᴀɴɢᴇʟ, ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ᴀ ɢᴏᴅ

ɪ ᴅᴏɴ'ᴛ ᴋɴᴏᴡ ᴡʜʏ ɪ ᴀᴍ ᴛʜᴇ ᴡᴀʏ ɪ ᴀᴍ. ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ'ꜱ ꜱᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ꜱᴛᴀᴛɪᴄ, ɪ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ɪ'ᴠᴇ ʙᴇᴇɴ ʜᴀᴠɪɴɢ ʀᴇᴠᴇʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴꜱ ᴄᴏᴍɪɴ' ᴛᴏ. ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ꜰʀᴏɴᴛ ꜱᴇᴀᴛ, ɴᴇᴀʀʟʏ ᴇᴍᴘᴛʏ ꜱᴋɪᴘ ᴛʜᴇ ᴇxɪᴛ ᴛᴏ ᴏᴜʀ ᴏʟᴅ ꜱᴛʀᴇᴇᴛ ᴀɴᴅ ɢᴏ ʜᴏᴍᴇ , ɢᴏ ʜᴏᴍᴇ ᴀʟᴏɴᴇ.

𝜗𝜚 ‧₊˚ ⊹ ℕ𝕠𝕥 𝕊𝕥𝕣𝕠𝕟𝕘 𝔼𝕟𝕠𝕦𝕘𝕙 𝕊𝕠𝕟𝕘 𝕓𝕪 𝕓𝕠𝕪𝕘𝕖𝕟𝕚𝕦𝕤

[thesunfyre4446]

"viserys was a good man"

no. he was a weak man that preferred the easy choice over the right choice even at the cost of his family's life.

that makes him incredibly selfish and a coward.

[mhsdatgo]

By the way, you can say you hate characters and STILL admit that they were abused or harassed. There's literally nothing wrong. Denying it or romanticizing it because of a strange kink of yours won't make your hate any less evident, trust me.

Rhaenyra was abused. She's continuously taken advantage of, and brushed away the moment she isn't needed anymore. And she experiences this first hand with her own father, who completely ruins motherhood for her when she grows up watching Aemma get impregnated and either miscarry or have the baby be stillborn or die in the cradle. If Viserys had been by her side as a supporter to her claim since the start, he wouldn't have gotten Aemma pregnant again and again in the pursuit of a male child. He wouldn't have married Alicent for the same reason. Even after, the only reason why he still stands by her side, and it's time the fandom accepts this, it's solely because of his grief and guilt, because Rhae is the only remnant of Aemma.

And there it starts. Firstly, groomed and left alone naked and alone by her uncle in a brothel. Secondly, slept with Criston Cole (although she did coerce him, that's still a literal TEENAGER) then she's married to a gay man and still approached super young by her new bodyguard and just one year later she's started giving birth to his children. (Side note: FUCK Rhaenyra x Harwin. FUCK with reverb. With hard K.)

And up to this point, most fan agree that she's had a shitty life, although I don't agree with some of her choices. (like her treatment of Criston Cole and the bastards, not because I'm some kind of bigot, but because passing bastards as trueborn in THAT precise world sets them up for failure, not being legally deserving of a thone DOES NOT mean me hating them. That's for another post.)

To top it all off, she meets her uncle again, and there starts the fanfic self insert. They have sex on a beach the day of Laena's funeral, the only one of the three wives he's ever been canonically loyal to (FUCK you writers) and fans think it's soulmates meeting again or sum shit. They subtly threaten Laenor to fake his death or actually die (that's what they were trying to do, cope harder) and marry mere days after the death of Laena.

Yes, all cute and romantic (for Dumbnyras twats) but literally, has it done anything good? For Rhaenyra or like, anyone else? It just brought Daemon closer to the line of succession. Literally. That's all the good it has done.

Fast forward to ep 10. How do I even start with this? Only Jace seems to be on Rhaenyra's side. It's clear he only obeys to Daemon out of fear and is scared to talk back to him. Meanwhile, he COMPLETELY disregards his wife's, and by his faction's loyalties, QUEEN's, orders, he ignores her wails of pain as she miscarries their daughter out of pure shock and grief for her father's death. He lashes out and chokes her on the same day and people still see him as the malewife to Rhaenyra's girlboss. They're always ready to do award-deserving mental gymnastic to justify this man.

"He was planning war because he wanted to distract himself!!!!" "He only choked Rhae because he was mad at Viserys, he'd never hurt her!!!!!!"

Fuck off. Coming from probably Rhaenyra's #1 hater. Fuck. Off. Don't say you care about her place in the view of men when you're ready to justify shit like this.

This is the same man who runs off and has an affair with a teenager, and then prefers going on and having a badass death instead of joining his wife and children who need him in King's Landing.

Do I like Rhaenyra? No. Do I think that, because of this, she's never been abused, or exploited in any way, in her life? ALSO no. My distaste for her character has NOTHING to do with Viserys, Criston, Daemon, Harwin or literally ANYONE ELSE in her life.

Alicent Hightower time, baby.

My mother, my aunt, my grandmother, my entire bloodline, my Roman Empire. And more. To anyone who thinks of her as nothing but a bitter/jealous girl, go read @feretrumdulcia 's post about this matter cuz there's literally no one I've seen that words it better. (And bub if you're reading, long live you and the way you think.)

https://www.tumblr.com/feretrumdulcia/720746371814195200/i-have-seen-quite-often-that-many-people-consider

Anyone who can read this and argue that Alicent is envious/jealous or bitter, honestly needs to take the heart shaped sunglasses off, get off tumblr and Ao3, learn what media literacy is and start learning how to possess a crumble of it. To us it makes sense to synpathize with both, because we've seen the big picture. To Alicent, Rhaenyra gave her virtue to the man that almost killed her brother, and chose to believe she did not out of trust and maybe nostalgia for her friendship and easier times, only to have her father be blamed and taken away from her as a result.

She has four kids in the span of, how much? Five, six years? Seven at best? Helaena and Aemond are NINE MONTHS APART. Viserys didn't even let her rest after she gave birth to her daughter. And I'm convinced 100% that he kept her as Idk some whore he didn't need to pay for because it's stated that he never wanted Aegon but the son he butchered Aemma for. Why keep on bedding her and forcing children on her when you'd never get what you want from her?

Throughout the series she's called bitter and downright a c*nt for this and that reason. She tries convincing Viserys that Rhae's children are CLEARLY bastards and she's setting herself and them up for failure by committing treason and putting them on the throne? Nah, power hungry, jealous, bitter. She marries Helaena to Aegon as a last resort because she's Valyrian and probably would've received proposals worse than the ones Rhaenyra made that would eventually convince Viserys to give her away? Hates her daughter, abuser, shitty mom. Rhae's sons slit her son's eye out instead of running when they had the chance and she rightfully lashes out? Nah, crazy ass, for the dungeons. She gives money and moon tea to her son's rape victim to ensure she gets a way out and isn't forced to have a baby she doesn't want? Bruh, rape apologist. She goes to Aegon and RIGHTFULLY disciplines him? Abuser. Forced to show her feet to a rancid filthy man to know where her son is? Upholds the patriarchy, hypocrite. She convinces Aegon to start fighting for her family because it's either them or the Blacks and he needs to start putting his life together and fight for them, so she crowns him and makes him King? Treason, deserves death, long live the brothel queens.

Somehow, it is ALWAYS HER FAULT. And those few that admit how wronged she was make fun of her.

CAN SHE FUCKING WIN?! Or y'all just hate her because she isn't Valyrian?

Btw almost all of these arguments are the same for Book!Alicent who I personally believe to be FAR MORE than just a bitter stepmom that hates her stepdaughter. She arguably has more reasons to start a coup against her in the books without that prophecy shit.

TLDR; It's OKAY to hate characters and admit they're abused and taken advantage of at the same time. You don't have a moral high-ground on no one because you hate or love a character instead of the other.

[lady-clouves]

I don’t understand how anyone can truly hate young Alicent Hightower. Like how are you gonna look at a young girl who’s practically being pimped out by her own father and then call her a cunt. Not only that but I remember when episode two came out people where not only at the characters throat but also the actress who played her.

And it’s just so heartbreaking because you can very clearly see that Alicent doesn’t want to be anywhere near that man. Every single time I saw her near him it looked like she was about to cry and just wanted to be somewhere else. Don’t even get me started about how heartbroken she looked when her father told her to where one of her DEAD mother’s dress to the King, she looked as if her world had just ended and I was surprised she didn’t have a full blown panic attack.

Then in episode two when Viserys told her not to tell Rhaenyra that she was visiting him, as if that’s not the #1 thing abusers tell their victims. And people had the audacity to say, “while why didn’t she just tell Rhaenyra?”. As if Alicent isn’t 15 years old, obviously she’s not gonna tell her friend when her KING and her father told her not to!

[sunnysideaeggs]

I finally found out why the Laena/Daemon match made me so uncomfortable 😵‍💫

Are you really going to tell me that a little girl went from this:

To this:

In three years? 🧐🧐🧐

It makes me so upset that hotd makers really casted another actress for Laena making a 16 yo effectively look ‘elder’ and ‘grown up’ and ‘seeking’ Daemon. They’re actively feeding stereotypes about girls of color growing up faster, wanting men’s attention earlier or being ‘more developed’ than their white counterparts. Alicent and Rhaenyra, two characters who are in universe older than Laena, kept their actress after the time lapse.

Laena Velaryon’s age and appearance seems to fluctuate however it’s more convenient for Targaryen men. She’s just a cute kid when Viserys is searching for a wife, making Alicent the ‘more sensible’ choice. She’s a beautiful young woman when Daemon needs to get away from Rhaenyra for a bit. She’s a middle aged woman who’s getting boring when he needs to come back.

Also, why did they change the actress (again!) after the time lapse? Only 12 years passed, at most. And teen!Laena is 16.

Are you really going to tell me she looks 28? Don’t get me wrong, Nanna Blondell is beautiful, but she, as she should, looks her age (37). Laena didn’t need another actress for just an episode, showcase her youth and the tragedy of being a placeholder in Daemon’s life (who, btw, didn’t age a day. I’m starting to think he keeps himself youthful by feeding on little girls.)

Alas, it really bothers me. As a young woman of color, it always pisses me off whenever people find excuses to sexualize woc and especially prey on young girls. It’s even worse when big entertainment companies feed into it.

[terrorofthetrident]

despite the driftmark scene being so tragic, i love the greens family dynamic in this scene. you have alicent, woken out of her sleep, comforting her baby boy, who’s just been maimed, while she fights for him when it’s just her in a room full of people looking at her like she lost her mind. you have aemond, in immense pain, missing an eye, and with fresh stitches on his face, being interrogated by viserys but he refuses to snitch on his mother and instead puts the blame on aegon, maybe knowing/trusting that he’d be able to get them out of that situation. then, you have aegon, taken by surprise and probably still hungover, who won’t out his mother either, he protects her and aemond by bravely stating the plain truth to viserys’ face and viserys can’t even say anything back. in the end, when alicent loses it and cuts rhaenyra, aemond decides it’s more important to act as if he’s fine in order to calm his mother and mediate the situation, preventing it from going any further than that and then going over to hug alicent in efforts to comfort her and likely to seek comfort as well…all they really have is each other

[maryonaccross]

Because Alicent asked Viserys to let Rhaenyra chose her own husband and let her have a choice after everything she endured and after Rhaenyra turned down all her attempts to rekindle their friendship…

And people say she was jealous and spiteful towards her. She literally pushed Viserys to give her the freedom no woman had at the time.

[queen-helaena109]

I've seen people say that when Aemma was alive, everything was good and everyone was happy.

And I'm going to say, That's a load of shit.

Ask yourselves: Was Aemma happy as well? because nobody seems to consider her.

For almost 20 years, she had the burden of providing the heir for the throne in an age where heirs and spares die, whether it was natural or not. She was pregnant seven times: one surving child, two miscarriages, two stillbirths, and one child that survived for one day. Do you think it was Viserys who they pinted the finger for those failures of not producing a sion? No! It was Aemma. By the time she was pregnant with her seventh child, the one that would kill her, she was tired, heartbroken, and just gave up, even though she felt like a disappointment for failing her husband and her duty as Queen.

Stop using Aemma's name when you want to bash young Alicent. Because that's the only time they bring up Aemma in a conversation. Because she just Viserys' wife in your eyes. Not the woman who suffered from the selfishness of men and had the same fate as her mother.

Or Rhaenyra? Do you think she was happy as well before Aemma's death?

She was in the shadow of a brother who didn't exist for almost all of her life. Viserys made his own daughter think that she was a failure just for being a girl. It was only until he took her mother brutally away from her and his brother made a sick joke about it that he finally decided to say verbally to her, "Hey, I love you, kid! Sorry, it took this long for me to notice! You are now my heir!"

Nobody was happy. Viserys was perhaps happy, fueled by a stupid dream, and Daemon was as well, because he was first in line.