Wynne defending children from the Templars
It’s interesting to reflect on Wynne’s Establishing Character Moment in Dragon Age: Origins, especially in light of the strange whitewashing of the Templar Order in Inquisition as well as her apparently conservative politics. When we encounter her in Broken Circle (our first interaction with her since the brief chat at Ostagar), we see her fighting to protect a group of young children not only from demons but from the Templars -- the very military force that claims to protect them. If she is recruited into the party, in fact, we discover that she had already sacrificed her life for them. She is technically dead/undead and only kept standing due to possession by a spirit of Faith.
As soon as the party enters the door, she’s fearful that the Warden has come to kill them all on behalf of Knight-Commander Greagoir, and depending on player choices/intentions, she may in fact be correct.
Wynne: It’s you! No... come no further. Grey Warden or no, I will strike you down where you stand!
Warden: Wynne - what are you doing here?
Wynne: I am a mage of the Circle. More importantly, why are you here? The templars would not let just anyone by.
Warden: You have children with you.
Wynne: The tower is a place of learning. Young apprentices are always here. Why is that surprising?
Wynne: But this is no time to discuss that. Why are you here? Why did the templars let you in?
Warden: I am helping Greagoir resolve the Circle’s difficulties.
Wynne: Then you do serve the templars as I feared. Do they have the Right of Annulment?
Warden: The Right of Annulment?
Wynne: The order from the grand cleric allowing the templars to completely annul a Circle. Do they have it?
Warden: No, but Greagoir expects it to arrive soon.
Wynne: So Greagoir thinks the Circle is beyond hope. He probably assumes we are all dead.
Wynne: They abandoned us to our fate, but even trapped as we are, we have survived. If they invoke the Right, however, we will not be able to stand against them.
Warden: It’s nothing less than this Circle deserves.
Wynne: Do these children deserve death too? Will they die by your hand?
Warden: Mages are a danger. If I had a say, you would all be culled.
Wynne: Killing us solves nothing, but with training and education, mages learn to control their powers.
Wynne: You’re mad if you think I’ll let you lay a finger on these children. If will fight you if you won’t listen to reason.
Wynne: I am not afraid of you.
Warden: This Circle must be destroyed, for all our sakes.
Wynne: If you insist on making war on the Circle, we have nothing more to discuss. It comes to blows, then. I will stop you or die trying.
BONUS - terrified child fleeing from being murdered:
Commentary
While Wynne can be condescending and sometimes preachy in her support for the Circle, her dialogue both here and elsewhere indicates that she has no illusions about the Templars keeping them locked inside.
After all, they imprisoned her in Kinloch Hold since she was a young child, took her own child away from her forever, and threatened to slaughter both her and the other children she was mentoring in her son’s stead. If recruited into the party, she opens up about the despair she felt as a girl when she realized she would be trapped there forever, and it was only by turning to the religious faith that was being forced on all mages in the tower that she began to make peace with her fate. She knows that if the Libertarian Fraternity successfully leads a vote for independence from the Chantry, the Templars will simply kill them all. She even uses the term “genocide” to describe what will happen. She explicitly cites this as the reason why she opposes the independence vote.
The mages will never be free! The Chantry would never allow it. Our only hope for survival is to show them we can be trusted! Don’t you remember what happened to the Circle in Ferelden? Do you want to give the templars another excuse to call for the culling of all mages?
She doesn’t reject freedom for her fellow mages for any personal advantage, throwing others like her under the bus to reap the rewards of brown-nosing. If she wanted any semblance of power or status, after all, she would have accepted the post of First Enchanter (or second-in-line to it) a long time ago. As of Dragon Age Origins, she has consistently rejected the opportunity to become Irving’s successor. As of the end of Broken Circle, if she joins the party and defeats Uldred’s rebels, she still needs to ask for permission just to temporarily leave the tower, despite having proven her loyalty and competence beyond any reasonable doubt both here and over the past thirty or so years of incarceration. It takes helping the Hero of Ferelden save the entire country by defeating the Archdemon to convince the Templars to allow her to come and go freely - an opportunity that, as her own son later points out, no one else has had or probably ever would have in their lifetime (and one, as the only the player knows, that is entirely conditional on player choices).
The only context in which she ever even considers fighting the Templars is when she has no other way of preventing the Templars from killing them all anyways - both during Broken Circle and in the climax of Asunder.
Her politics are, in the end, based on fear.
Not the usual fear of the Other or fear of social change that hamper normal politics, but the completely rational fear, as someone at/near the bottom of the social hierarchy, about what the authorities will do to her and everyone like her if they step out of line. As it turns out, she’s not wrong about what the powers that be are and how they will react - she’s only wrong about the potential for a better future and the rewards of fighting for it.
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Find The Word (long)
I have been tagged by multiple people and have decided to dump it all into one huge post in no particular order and from all parts of the story. Enjoy the madness! XD XD XD
CW for canon-typical violence and fantasy racism
@wild-houseplant thank you for the tag!! I can show off two snippets from the next section and one with Sten which makes me. Very happy XD XD XD
Wrap
Astala stared at his foot. It was filthy with mud, and through the Dalish foot-wrappings she saw a bit of blood gathering between his toes.
“Why didn’t you put your boots on?”
“Does that matter?” Ilanlas groaned. “The harm is done.”
He looked left and right, wobbling in place. Finally, he sighed.
“I need help.”
“Sure.” Astala stretched her hand out to steady him. Halfway through the motion, she stopped. “Oh. Wait. Now you want my help, huh?”
Ilanlas gave her a glowering stare and opened his mouth.
“Oh no,” Astala hissed. “You’ve been ignoring me for the last few days and now you suddenly want my help. You don’t get to act offended now.”
Consider
“Sten,” Astala said. “You’ve fought in battles, right? What do you do against a large-ish number of foes armed with swords and maces rushing towards you?”
“Shields and spears,” the qunari answered. “Maintain your foe at a distance and slay him before he can reach you.”
“Hm.” Astala considered the idea. “But spears won’t do much against skeletons, right?”
“No,” Sten said. “You have to shatter them. Clubs or axes will be more effective.”
“What if we pair one guy with a pitchfork with another guy with axe and shield?” Astala said. “The guy with the pitchfork holds the skeleton at bay while the other guy hacks it into pieces.”
“You are relying on these men to hold a line,” Sten answered. “They won’t. These aren’t soldiers. They are excitable and impressionable fishers and artisans.”
Scream
Her heart skipped a beat when they found Ilanlas in the town’s square in what looked like a tense argument with a shem. What prevented her from running over and dragging him away was the fact that Mellan, the elven girl from the tavern, was standing right next to him as if supervising the whole operation. And then the shem nodded, Ilanlas handed him something and received something in return. Then they parted ways. Astala approached, carefully.
When Ilanlas saw her, his expression soured, and he marched up to her as if gearing up for a fight. Astala braced herself. Instead of screaming at her, however, Ilanlas grabbed her wrist, pressed something into her hand and stepped back, crossing his arms.
“Now go buy your blanket,” he spat.
Astala looked down at her hand. There was silver lying in it. She counted eight pieces.
“Where-?” She stared at Ilanlas. “How?”
@fade-and-loathing-in-thedas I am super super late but these words are a treasure!! Thank you so much for the tags, both of them!
Hope
"Thing is," he continued with what wouldn't even have been a lie a year ago, "I like living. And you obviously are the sort to give the Crows pause. So let me serve you, instead."
The Warden raised her eyebrows so high they disappeared under her dark fringe. The other Grey Warden scoffed and the dark-haired witch even laughed. Only the redhead kept quiet and studied him intently. Zevran made a mental note of that while his heart sank at their reaction. Was his situation this hopeless?
Despair
Astala forced her eyes open to find the king looking straight at her.
“I’m Astala, your Majesty,” she managed. She’d forgotten to bow.
“Pleased to meet you!” The king beamed. “The Grey Wardens are desperate to bolster their numbers, and I, for one, am glad to help them.”
Unsure what kind of answer was expected of her, Astala nodded.
The king seemed to find that sufficient and went right on. “I see you’re an elf, friend. From where do you hail?”
Perhaps she could find a helmet that covered her ears. Would people take her for a slight human woman if she did?
Beauty
“She deserved it, believe me,” Leliana said, and Astala wholeheartedly believed her. “So don’t worry. We will find someone for you. It won’t even be hard! You’re very beautiful.”
Laughter, unexpected, burst out of her chest. “Now you’re just trying to cheer me up.”
“What? No!” Leliana looked genuinely taken back. “You are very- I’m not saying this to cheer you up!”
“Please.” Astala let her head fall to the side. “I’ve got short hair and the biggest nose in my whole family.”
“I like your nose!” Leliana protested. “It adds character!”
“That’s a very nice way to say that it’s enormous.”
“Stop that!”
Lost (I apologize to all Amells and Suranas out there)
“And here I thought I was the only one to notice our dear Warden’s savior complex,” Zevran said and affixed an easy smile to his face.
“What is there to notice? Even a blind could see it.” Morrigan’s voice was laced with venom and her face was twisted into a sneer. “First, we take this enormous detour to spare one inconsequential noblewoman’s life. Then, we take a detour during that detour to help the Dalish. During this detour within a detour, we “save” a group of powerful creatures and thus render them useless to us. Next, we spend days clearing an already lost tower for some templars incapable of doing their job, and now they want to hunt for a population that should be more than able to take care of itself. And we keep picking up strays!”
Morrigan jabbed her thumb over her shoulder to where the three Circle mages were walking.
Pain
Astala was only dimly aware of being manhandled as her companions as they unbuckled the various pieces of armor. When Leliana grabbed her right arm, pain flared up from the whole thing and Astala groaned.
"Oh Maker," Leliana gasped. "Wynne, look at this!"
Astala winced as Wynne gingerly inspected.
"Maker's Breath. What have you been fighting?"
"Dwarves," Astala muttered.
"But your whole arm is crushed!" Wynne exclaimed.
Astala blinked and coughed. "Is it?"
"I don't want to alarm you," Alistair said somewhere above and to her... she couldn't really tell with one busted ear. "I really don't want to alarm you, but, uh... she just coughed up blood."
Brushed
She knew.
Just as quickly as it had come, the euphoria washed away and was replaced with a freezing, sinking sensation of dread. She knew. Knew what? How much? How much of his hand had he inadvertently shown? He felt sick. He felt dizzy, even. How had he allowed this kind of feeling to sneak up on him, and to fall for her out of all people, and after what had happened to-
“Morning, Zev!”
The Warden brushed past him, smiling brightly and holding her flower-crowned head high for all to see. Through the panic the second voice nudged him excitedly and blabbered incoherent nonsense at the sight of that smile. Before he could realize what he was doing, his own lips formed a smile in response, and once again he was left standing, dumbfounded, as the Warden approached Morrigan for some tea.
Hurt
“You made the right choice,” Zevran said while trying to untangle himself from the memory of his dead lovers. “It is no good to be bound to people that hurt you. Which is why I am no longer a Crow and, presumably, why you are here.”
Leliana stared into the hearth barely illuminating the room with a few smoldering embers. FInally, she sniffed and nodded. “But even so, I still grieve.”
Zevran swallowed thickly around the knot in his throat.
“I suppose you cannot avoid it,” he said. “Not if you gave them your heart, or part of it.”
“I suppose you’re right.” Leliana wiped her eyes with her sleeve. “What a foolish thing to do, to give our hearts away when they might be shattered so badly.”
Heat
Astala's ears and cheeks had started to heat up, and they were burning even now. No matter what way she turned, eyes open or closed, all she saw before her was the light flickering along Zevran as he smiled, as his hair as it fanned out when he spun. She could still feel the rhythm of the melody, his feet stomping on the ground in those boots that fit far too well, see his lean silhouette dark against the flames as he danced.
@yukichouji I finally get to respond to your second tag! Featuring some Alistair, some Zevran and some Sten, and an innkeeper worried about her money ^^
Troubling
“Anyway,” Alistair said very quickly, “I’ll fill you in on what we learned while we wait for Morrigan.”
In the chantry, he informed Astala, he and Morrigan had learned troubling news. Arl Eamon was sick and had sent his knights out on a desperate search for Andraste’s Ashes to cure him. The mages were apparently also having problems.
“Some say they have all turned into abominations,” Alistair said. “Which would really not be good if we wanted to ask them for help. So, in short, the quest for allies is going to be more difficult than we imagined.”
Astala started twisting a strand of leather around her finger.
“What did you find?” Alistair asked.
“Well,” Astala untwisted the bit of leather. “There are two paid jobs hung out on the board that I have requested and there might be more if we ask around. There’s also soldiers of teryn Loghain looking for us stationed at the tavern.”
“That’s… bad,” Alistair said.
“It is,” Astala nodded.
Trust
"Hm." Zevran reached for a sock as well. "Why do I feel like it was something I said?"
"It wasn't," Astala snapped. "Stop asking."
A light frown creased Zevran's brow. "As you wish. Should I leave entirely?"
"You should-" Astala swallowed her words and grabbed a pile of folded clothes. "Just… do the laundry."
She didn't storm off. She was just walking quickly, and her ears felt like they had been set aflame. Stupid, stupid, stupid. She should have known that Zevran would be worse than any shem. Because, unlike them, he didn't have to win her trust. He already had it.
Sword
An unseen explosion shook the earth beneath them. Astala drew her blades in a flash and spun around. There was nothing with them on the shore. Out of the upper levels of the tower of Kinloch Hold, however, rose smoke.
"Oh, that's not good," Astala muttered.
"They're still fighting in there!" one of the patrons called. "I thought they would be done by now?"
Astala could hear Alistair muttering under his breath.
Sten approached her, sword drawn. "We should never have come here, Warden."
"Well, we are here now," Astala said.
Weight
Astala looked at the coin and swallowed. It was strange: not round like the others and it didn't bear the crown if Ferelden. Instead, a strange symbol stood in its middle, and the coin had eight sides.
"I can't take this," the innkeeper said. "I don't know what it is and it doesn't have the right weight. Where did you get it from?"
"From bandits," Astala said quietly.
"Bandits," the innkeeper repeated flatly. "And they gave you coin?"
@bumblerhizal thank you as well for the tag! Some Zevwarden, some of the Chantry being shitty, some plums and some more Zevwarden. Enjoy!
Drink
They let themselves be carried by wave after wave until the water became too cold to bear. They trekked back to the camp with haste, bundled up in dry clothes and blankets, and even so Zevran’s teeth chattered, and the wind chased shiver after shiver down his spine. Wynne received them with open disapproval and two steaming mugs of rich broth.
“I would be very surprised if the two of you didn’t catch the cold of your life down there,” she chided as she shood them to the fire and threw another blanket over them. “Your lips are blue! What were you thinking?”
“Worth it,” Astala muttered into her drink and scooted closer to Zevran.
Zevran had to agree. He took a sip of the broth and relished the way it warmed his insides as it traveled into his stomach. He leaned against the Warden. Purely for body warmth, of course.
Lie
If they had lied about an elf who was close to Andraste, they would’ve definitely lied about the Exalted March on the Dales.
What was she supposed to do with all of this?
“Nobody’s ever tried to take the Dales back?”
Ilanlas laughed. “How would we?”
“You’ve got weapons,” Astala said. “You’re good shots and you have mages! Did nobody ever try?”
“The Dales lie between Ferelden and Orlais, and belong to the latter,” Ilanlas said. “What you propose would result everybody hunting us down like rabid dogs. There is a reason why we do not settle down.”
Warm
The rest of the night passed by uninterrupted, and the morning greeted them with a slightly cloudy sky. Duncan frowned up at the clouds. Astala welcomed them. The sun was already warming up the air, and every bit of shade would be welcome. Besides, she had discovered that the trees in the orchard they had slept next to carried plums. She immediately climbed the first tree and began filling her pack with plums. Duncan told her that this would anger the farmer, but only once, and he didn’t make her come down. And the farmer deserved it anyways. He’d kicked them out in the middle of the night when Ilanlas was sick. A pack full of plums was the least Astala would’ve taken if she’d had the chance.
Cold
"It will be cold again tonight," Astala mused.
"That it will," Zevran agreed. "But it will be the last night in a long time I think. I have been told that the city of Orzammar is lighted and warmed by flows of hot, molten rock."
"Molten rocks." Astala stared off into the distance as she tried to picture a rock in liquid state. She didn't quite know where to begin with. "The things there are in the world..."
"The things there are in Ferelden alone," Zevran said. "You should see the deserts in Antiva, my Warden. That is something worthy of admiration."
"Oh, I don't know, Zev," Astala said with a teasing smile. "Have you ever seen a rock melt? It sounds pretty impressive."
"So it does, if I didn't suspect that I would melt right alongside with it if I ever came close enough to lay eyes on the process," Zevran replied.
Aaaaaand it’s done!! I do hope you enjoyed these ^^ I would like to tag you all back, as well as @oxygenforthewicked @the-iron-lion @castlecousland and @icy-warden to find the words make, sleep, tree and terrible. Have a lovely day all of you!
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