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[kiwisandpearls]

I think the reason people are so obsessed with “consequences” for Macaque and whatnot

Is that the show+fandom are VERY harsh on Wukong and constantly beat on him for the unintentional harm he causes + tries to make up for

So when Macaque hurts people on PURPOSE for fun and gets treated with kid gloves by fans+narrative+writers

It kinda grinds down his fans, who want that Wukong vitriol to be also Macaque vitriol

yeah that’s fair. While some of animosity towards Wukong is justify (immediate example I can think of is when Wukong kept the secret that Mei was actually technically one of the rings of Samadhi from the others) and Wukong is quite far from being a perfect angel, I do think the way the fandom and the show at times unjustly vilify Wukong and make him seem like this awful mentor for MK is unjustified.

and I think that is something that could have strengthened Macaque’s ‘redemption arc’, that despite his help during the fight against LBD and his old friends, he does need to continue to do better in order to gain the trust of others (also again would’ve been really nice to see characters like MK, Mei, and even Tang be at least kinda bitter towards Macaque).

my point is more having the narrative beat Macaque over the head with how he was such a terrible person he was in the same way the fandom and show do to Wukong still does not equate to a good redemption arc, for either of them, it just more feels like the audience/writers expecting them to give an apology tour if…that makes sense. /gen

[kiwisandpearls]

jaiden's tweets say she was working on that video for the last two months, feeling real bad for her she really couldnt afford to not finish and post

yeah, it sucks that it had such unfortunate timing :(

[kiwisandpearls]

Who is your favorite Honkai 3rd character?

These two little gremlins :3

[kiwisandpearls]

Kindly take your last post out of the Zutara tag.

People are allowed to criticize Aang. People are allowed to point out the failings of the writing behind his character. He's fictional. His feelings won't be hurt. It shouldn't matter that people hate him.

(Some people who dislike or criticize him aren't even Zutara shippers. And those that are have said that their dislike of Aang has nothing to do with liking Zutara)

What's not okay is attacking Zutara shippers who are real people over their opinions on a FICTIONAL character.

The problem with posts like yours is that they're so hypocritical. You always make out Zutara shippers to be the problem. Do you know what Kataang fans have done? They've doxxed people, sent death threats. They had a rape Discord a few years ago. They've continuously harassed DANTE BOSCO, calling him a pedo because he likes Zutara. They literally recently harassed an NATLA writer on Twitter because she likes Zutara.

Stop calling out Zutara shippers for not liking a fictional character when Kataang shippers have some real damage to real people.

…I—

I literally did not put my post in the zutara tag. I put them in the ‘zutara fans critical’ and ‘zutara stans critical’ tags because 1. I didn’t want to put them in the anti zutara tag because it wasn’t meant to be an anti zutara post and 2. I obviously did not want to put the post critical about zutara shippers in the general zutara tag. I’m guessing you most likely just looked up zutara because like again, you can check yourself, I did not use the general ‘zutara’ tag.

also I never said people weren’t allowed to criticize aang. My point was actually that you don’t have to vilify aang to excuse zutara and/or excuse your dislike of aang. Criticizing aang isn’t “aang forced katara to be with him and would be a horrible boyfriend/husband to her” criticizing aang is “aang was in the wrong for how he talked to katara after the ember islands play”.

“What's not okay is attacking Zutara shippers who are real people over their opinions on a FICTIONAL character.”

i’m not???? Where do you see me attacking zutara shippers, genuinely point it out to me because if I was being hostile to them that wasn’t my intention.

I would’ve just ignored and maybe deleted this ask if I weren’t completely baffled by it. How is me making this one post about how certain zutara shippers should just admit they have a negative opinion of aang and much prefer zutara to kataang instead of coming up batshit reasons to claim aang is a horrible person is me somehow attacking zutara shippers for…having negative opinion on aang, and turning a blind eye to kataang shippers that are just as if not worse?

trust me, I think kataang shippers who make up reasons to explain why zuko would also be terrible for katara is just as annoying as zutara shippers who make up reasons to explain why aang would be terrible for katara. And I don’t think kataang shippers, or any shippers, doxxing and harassing zutara and other shippers is ok in anyway. I just didn’t mention it because I kinda thought it would be obvious that kataang shippers that also harass people are just as bad as zutara shippers that harass people. Maybe that’s asking a little too much of the internet but idk.

Also, I didn’t know kataang shippers were harassing Dante Basco. I didn’t even know he was a zutara shipper, I’m not that deep in the fandom. I’m not even that much in it at all lol. So even if I were to talk about kataang shippers what did you want me to do about it? Telepathically figure out kataang shippers have been harassing him lol? Not saying that it’s ok nor surprising, I just straight up didn’t know.

[kiwisandpearls]

Wait umm I stumbled upon this blog and saw pro shipper safe and now I’m genuinely confused I really wanna know

do proshippers support ped0philia, incest, l0licon/sh0tacon and that stuff?? /genq

hello anon~

sorry if this took long to get to been busy and stressed recently so

hopefully I answer this well! If not feel free to send another ask

I went more into depth with this on another ask but I’ll try to answer your ask to the best of my ability. Being a proshipper isn’t exactly what you asked it was in your ask, to grossly oversimplify it being a proshipper basically means that you believe fiction (even if it’s messed up fiction) still has a right to exist and people have a right to like it, even if you personally don’t. You don’t even have to be into “problematic fiction” to be consider a proshipper. Like me personally I don’t like problematic ships that much but I still acknowledge people have a right to like those ships even if I personally don’t and that they don’t deserve to be harassed for being into problematic ships.

the thing is you don’t even have to label yourself as a proshipper if you don’t want, there are other terms you can use (personally I prefer pro-fiction more than proship) or you can just not use any at all, just go with what makes you comfortable.

again tho, I hope I answered this well, I’m not really good at explaining this lol

[kiwisandpearls]

Do you know about the AB3080 internet bill?

no, what is it

[kiwisandpearls]

Wait I've been out of the Genshin loop for a while now, what's going on with Natlan??? /gen

nothing it’s just that some people in community had been expressing concerns that natlan might end up having a similar controversy that sumeru did where went teasers and leaks of it first dropped where many of the sumeru characters were shown to be light-skinned (more context for that is that basically sumeru is based off of middle eastern cultures so some people were expecting more diverse skin tones)

And because of the regions natlan has also taken inspo from (which I can’t remember for the life of me) some people have expressed concerns the same thing will happen with natlan, where while they expected more diverse skin tones most of the characters will be light-skinned.

I don’t really have an opinion on the whole thing but that’s what I was getting at with my post on natlan. So basically I’m just wondering if the community has a problem with the current natlan characters’ skin tones or if they’re ok with it

edit: ok so apparently natlan is most likely taking inspo from Latin American and the Aztecs? So take that as you will

[kiwisandpearls]

Funny thing is the most used song for the anti piracy ads was pirated.

That's like a thief telling you that stealing is bad

wait seriously?! If true that is funny as hell lol

[kiwisandpearls]

I'm honestly curious what's ur thoughts on a situation that I learned recently are.

Let's set the picture it's a hoyoverse cosplay contest, and there's this girl that dressed up as HoV (which was one hell of a good cosplay. Like she put so much effort into, and it can be seen) and here comes this admin that bans her from participating. It would be fine if she did anything, but she didn't do anything to warrant that ban. It was because he said "that Honkai Impact isn't a hoyoverse game, and this was only for HSR, ZZZ and GI." Which honestly is baffling, HI3 no, Kiana was the starter for Hoyo. Without her existence, there wouldn't be HSR, ZZZ, and GI. It was said that Kiana was made by the founders of Hoyo when they were in college. And it is very well known that Da Wei loves HI3.

(Sorry if the ask is too long. I'm usually a luker but he situation is just very, very confusing on how the admin didn't know that HI3 belongs to Hoyo.)

yeah I already heard about that situation! /gen

and while I’m not surprised, I am disheartened. I’m not surprised because honkai impact is just not as popular as its younger sister games (GI, HSR, ZZZ) and whenever most people talk about hoyoverse they usually leave honkai impact out of the discussion, mostly because they just don’t know it exists.

but even then, it is still disheartening. Sure, honkai impact isn’t as popular as other hoyoverse games but it still deserves to be recognized as a hoyoverse game along side its way more popular sister games (especially since it y’know…is objectively a hoyoverse game as it was literally made by them). And it’s also disheartening for the cosplayer. I only saw small glimpses but the HOV cosplay seemed to actually look super cool and they’re getting punished even though they objectively did not do anything wrong.

it just sucks all around.

where I heard about this from

[kiwisandpearls]

The studying antis post landed on my dash and I just wanted to say so called "antis" for the *most* part don't think harassing people or caring about what people ship is normal. It's just that words have connotations and anything you put out there you just have to accept that someone might be grossed out by it. "Proshipper" as it is on the internet right now means someone who does enjoy loli or incest or similar things, not someone who doesn't believe in harassment (because that doesn't. yknow. need a label. that's being a normal person.) so they'd rather be called an anti than associate with people they're grossed out by bc then again words have connotations and can lose meaning. Nothing complex

being a proshipper doesn’t mean that tho. You can be a proshipper and fucking despise that stuff. Being proship more or less just means “ship and let ship;” people should be allowed to ship what they want even if it makes you are uncomfortable. (Which is why I sometimes lean towards being profic, I’m not exactly much of a shipper lol)

but that’s besides the point. I’m not even talking about “antis” who are simply uncomfortable with certain ships and what not and just don’t want to associate with proshippers because of that. That’s perfectly fine, you do you. My post was about antis isn’t about them.

no, my post is about antis who harass proshippers, send death threats to them, call proshippers horrible people, etc. I just want to understand why they do that and why they feel the need to do that.

[kiwisandpearls]

It's worse then it's a reader x character fic but labed lumine x character fic.

How can it be both reader x character and Lumine x character . How can reader be lumine?

I think since so many people view aether/lumine as self-inserts for the player that’s why some people tag their character x reader fics as character x lumine or character x aether.

which even then I disagree with. IDK, I do think there is some legitimacy to the claim that lumine and aether can be seen as kinda self-inserty (I say this neutrally) but still…don’t tag your character x reader fic as character x lumine/aether and vice versa because not everyone sees it that way and not everyone even wants to insert themselves as aether/lumine.

[kiwisandpearls]

Who's the girl in your pfp? She looks rlly cute

she is fu hua from the game honkai impact 3rd, specifically in her fenghuang of vicissitude form

specifically mentioning which form she is in because if you play the game for a good portion of the story she doesn’t even like this lol

Edit: haha suckers now this post doesn’t make much sense anymore CATGIRL TIME

[kiwisandpearls]

Hey, I don't want to be mean or anything but I generally want to understand since I have a Blog myself

What's the point in Pro shipping? I've seen so many nasty things about it especially because of child x adult but I want to know is there a good side to the community or is it all just like that?

Like what's the stance?

nah anon you don’t sound mean at all!

while I’ll still answer this to the best of my abilities you should still probably ask other proshippers because even im still used to the proship community so

ok so to first start I wanna get this out of the way, proship does not mean “problematic ship” or anything like that. So if you see someone saying, “That’s a proship!” or “This is my favorite proship” they are using the word wrong.

now that I’ve made that clear, for me personally I feel like asking “What’s the point of proshipping” is kinda…I guess a nothing question…? Because like you don’t “proship” as being proship is more of a stance. Proship literally means to be “for shipping” but it also means to be against harassing others over fictional content, anti-censorship of fiction, etc.

So I think a better question would probably be “What’s the point of being proship?” and to answer that question for me personally, well…because it’s fiction. It’s not hurting anyone. Fiction should be allowed to exist and allowed to be consumed no matter how icky it is. And even when you are proship you can still being uncomfortable or triggered by certain fiction. Like in your own ask you don’t seem to like adult x minor ships, which is perfectly valid, tbh I don’t really like so ships that much either. Even then you can still acknowledge that people who do like those ships are allowed to like them, even if you personally don’t. Does that make sense? I feel like I’m not making sense lol.

when it comes to community thing while there are a lot of people in at least the proship tags that are into problematic ships, I’m sure (if you look hard enough) you’ll find proship users who aren’t into that stuff. Because again, you can still be proship and still not be into certain fiction.

I hope I answered this well, I probably would’ve answered this better some other time. Unfortunately tho I’m running on low battery and desperately need a nap so you stuck with this lol

[kiwisandpearls]

sorry to hear how negative the community has been :( I don’t consider myself proship/profiction but I had to leave selfship community too since I have moral ocd and seeing death wishes and violent threats constantly was uhhhhh not good. I don’t know why people can’t just be straightforward and polite with dnis and such, why do they have to be so mean?

Hey anon! Your my first ever anon I’ve gotten so hi

but anyways yeah it’s really bad and it sucks that you had to leave the community because of it. I don’t know why they do that either, it doesn’t help anyone, and it just makes the community seem more unwelcoming. It just kinda taints the selfship communtiy with how comfortable some of them are with making those violent threats.

[kiwisandpearls]

Hello there! I hope that you get better soon. Please take good care!

awww thank you anon!!

[kiwisandpearls]

Hello, same anon from before!

What you said is completely understandable and I understand it now but my only concern is what if unstable/young people see the fics and then they do something because they think it's right because unstable/young people can be influenced easily, I've seen that reasoning floating around and I just want to know what you think about it!

Thank you for being so polite since I'm just generally trying to understand here!

THIS TOOK ME SO LONG TO GET TO I AM SO SORRY ANON 😭

but yeah I definitely see your point, and I won’t disagree with your point. But I will note that in cases where certain people are influenced by fictional stories to do certain things, there are almost always other underlying things that caused them to do the certain thing, not just the fictional story. While I can’t give you a definitive answer as to what should be done to stop situations like that from happening or how to decrease them, I can say that for me personally, telling people to stop making certain fanfiction or fiction in general isn’t really going to solve those situations. And that focusing solely on the fiction isn’t really going to solve this bigger issue at hand. It’s the same reason as to why I think blaming violence on violent video games is kinda useless and solves nothing.

I think I kinda rambled off at the end lol, but I hope that this helped, at least a little.