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You guys know MK will like… kill people. Right? You guys know that he’s not a blubbering little baby who insists on “being the bigger person” even in the face of everything he loves being destroyed??
And he has directly killed someone before.
Because she was threatening to destroy the world and kill his friends?
You guys know MK likes fighting. Right? MK from the very start has enjoyed fighting. Still enjoys fighting. Has always loved beating the tar out of his enemies. In the Calabash episode, one aspect of his “perfect life” was a very notable panel of the entire Demon Bull Family beaten to a pulp and sidelined- explicitly told to him that he was responsible for driving them away. Because MK liked fighting from the start.
You guys know that MK; who only starts having reservations about this behavior in season five, enjoys being violent. Right?
So much so that he threw Azure through Flower Fruit Mountain long after he had beaten him into degradation, even though he had dozens of other targets to aim at?
You guys do realize that MK was entirely in control of himself during this sequence, and was choosing all his actions?
And he chose to hurt Azure as bad as possible in revenge for being deceived?
You guys understand that he’s not like… a little blubbering baby who runs off to throw tantrums when he engages with basic violence? That MK understands that sometimes fighting is necessary and won’t fall apart the second he learns that people sometimes have to settle things physically?
You guys understand that MK has never held the use of violence against anyone, and has never blamed his friends or family or mentor for needing to engage in violence to protect themselves and their loved ones, right?
Right??
Right??
Right???
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How Macaque died (Season 5 spoilers)
@rika1991tr tagged me, and asked what it tells us about Macaque's death/ him and Wukong's fight.
So- this is for you :D
and...
*cracks knunckles*
OH BOY
To get to the bottom of this, we have to understand one thing:
Wukong and Macaque never stopped caring for eachother. Beheind all that hate in the first three seasons, they still cared for eachother (none of them dares to show it though)
Just look at how Macaque reaches out for Wukong- (godamnit)
So... what was that "something" Wukong was going to do, that he was warning Macaque about?
Well... Wukong was going to do THIS to Macaque:
Because as my dear friend @lu-zijing (they talked about it here) mentioned to me, there is chains here in Macaque death scene:
And not only that, thoughs chains look A LOT like the chains Tripitaka and Wukong put on LBD:
SO IN OTHER WORDS:
MK AND WUKONGS FIGHT ARE A PARALELL TO MACAQUE AND WUKONG'S FIGHT.
AND ALSO THIS LINE?
Nine headed demon: How did you know that spell? Who did you make a deal with?
Macaque: What deal?

So clearly Macaque has a power, tha he got from someone else, that he CANT control.
And what do we see here in this scene?
The chains broken (again thanks to Lu-Zijing for mentioning that to me), but the shadowpowers OUT OF CONTROL.
In other words: I higely doubt Wukong acutally killed Macaque.
Yes, they got into a fight, but Wukong just wanted to trap Macaque in chains, so he could talk him out of this fight (instead of fighting who used to be his closest compainion).
But... something went wrong. Because right after that line we saw this:
Meaning that Wukong (acdently), destroyed Macaques eye, causing Macaque to PANIC, resulting in Macaque over-using his shadowpowers and then...
...
And one last thing, I would like to point out-
In that same scene Macaque was laughing, and an pretty evil laugh at that.
Almost like... his shadow powers had "taken over".
So lets do the math, yea?
Super unstable shadowpowers + super unstable monkey + the only friend he has ever had "leaving" him =
Ha ha- not to mention Wukong isnt even wearing a circlet here, meaning it didnt even take place in JTTW-!! but thats another can of worms, I will talk about another day-
(lol, did you know I acutally somehow foresaw this in a fanfic-)
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Macaque is born from chaos
LMK SPOILERS FOR S5!!!
Ok so it's basically confirmed Macaque is going to be important for the next season considering dear Nine gave him so much attention, especially when you consider the ending shot is him noticing the chaos magic on the staff.
As for why he is important it's basically been confirmed that Mac's shadow magic is strange and in the finally we see it turn into chaos magic. Now, it's implied by Nine that Macaque would have needed to make a deal for this power, but Macaque has no clue what he's talking about which leads me to two theories.
And no I don't think it was the LBD's doing as he's had these powers long before her so no, I think either Mac was born in the chaos realm and somehow made it to this reality OR and this is my personal headcanon, Macaque was made by the "he" Nine referenced before departing in the finally. As to who this being is I have no idea but he is likely a figure of either equal or greater power to Nuwa, who then made Macaque to fulfill a purpose, similarly to how MK and Sun Wukong were.
As for what that purpose is who knows maybe it was to be his eyes and ears in this reality considering in the book Macaque had the ability to hear the past and future, or maybe it was to kill Wukong and Mk since they were Nuwa's sacrifices, we have no idea as this being is likely a creature of chaos so perhaps he had no reason and just wanted to see what would happen, but it's likely going to play a big part next season.
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Macaque Episode Analysis ramble
So I was talking with a friend about the possible psychological and therapeutic take aways from each episode of Lego Monkie Kid, since I love Psychology as a whole, and came to a conclusion. Macaque's episode has a fuck ton of things to analyze. Such as - Not every role model you meet will be a good person Trust your teachers Don't push yourself too hard otherwise you'll get hurt, manipulated and possibly die (let's be real, Macaque would've killed MK if Wukong didn't step in) And, grooming They will all be covered as I explain the episode in depth. When MK first meets Macaque he thought he was Wukong but even after Macaque declines, MK still had stars in his eyes of pure admiration. He clearly looks up to Macaque since he was just as cool if not cooler than Monkey King. Within the very next second Macaque started the process of grooming, after a tiny test to see how strong MK's admiration was. "[...] I thought uh Monkey King was training you. [...] but you can never have too many teachers, I'm sure Monkey King would agree. [...]"
Then Macaque starts to train MK. This shows the duality of Wukong's more MK's current strength and capabilities training versus Macaque's more destructive and dehumanizing training. With Wukong's "Patience and focus, step into the strike", clashing with Macaque's far more brash "You don't use a weapon, you ARE the weapon." This is effective at isolating MK from Wukong and his teachings because MK feels like he is actually powerful now.
As Wukong says, MK's body isn't strong enough to handle the power. This applies to real life too. If someone tries to weight lift something too heavy for their skills, they could get seriously hurt. This is the just magical equivalent of weight lifting. But because of Macaque's influence, MK fights back and isolates himself from Wukong, his trust worthy mentor. This leads Macaque to his final part of his plan, lure MK into a trap with his full hearted trust in him.
Then Macaque finishes his plan by stealing MK's powers. Let's be honest, with how things were going and by our impression of Macaque in this episode, Macaque would have likely killed MK if it weren't for Wukong. OR left MK to die with the staff pressing him against the moutain. What can we gather from this? Well, first and foremost, MK's admiration made him an easy target for manipulation, and what resulted was MK nearly dying from the ordeal. Check for "not ever role model will be a good person", since Wukong is ALSO a role model, but a good one because he doesn't literally groom MK. (More on that in a minute.) Wukong was right and MK does what he taught him then admits his wrongs by the end and opens up on why, which Wukong responds with "Hey, your heart is in the right place, kid. We can work on the rest." MK learned to trust Wukong when he was teaching him something because ultimately that's what saved his life. I'm not saying trust EVERY authority figure, but one that is teaching you something that you trust and know will not hurt you. Get yourself a Wukong for your MK. Macaque's training has lasting impact on MK, making him feel like he needs to give himself up for others. Before this episode, MK never had the need to sacrifice himself or really seemingly blamed himself for anything. Macaque's dehumanizing training left MK with lasting damage to his mental health and also led to MK not being able to pick up the staff, granted that was after Macaque gut-punched the power out of him.
Ouch...
So, I hear you ask, "Ok, you made your point about various things, here but what about grooming? That's a bold word." Yes, it IS a bold word, especially considering the fandom space being primarily for children. However, I will clarify that grooming does not only apply to sexual circumstances.
This is from the official Canada public safety about child grooming. Notice the none sexual tactics.
"Make promises of a better life" - Promises to make MK stronger/a better fighter/hero
"Cause divsion saying "your parents are too strict" or "your parents don't understand you"." - Macaque says "Other people are going to tell you to be patient. They are slowing you down." to directly conflict with Wukong's training, further dividing MK and Wukong.
"May threaten or pressure your child to do what they ask, which could lead to sextortion." - Might not be explicit but it is implied MK had some minor doubts by the end of the training and was literally pushed into battle. Also he threw MK into the weapons rack on their first session, showing that MK was "weak" and prompted him to take up his implicit challenge, his trick. It's unclear if Macaque ever threatened MK while training, but I doubt it and he just pressured him and manipulated his drive and determination.
One that people might argue is "Approach your child online by pretending to be someone they're not - may falsely identify themselves as a person from school, or someone their age, to build a connection." but I believe it applies. - Macaque comes in creating a show with his own kaiju form, either to make himself popular or to attract MK or Wukong. Regardless, he seemed uncomfortable at first but once he prompts up "But you can never have too many teachers", that's when he starts creating a false identity, a trustworthy teacher who knows better than Wukong. That's also neglecting the fact Macaque pretended to not be that smoke demon.
If that's not "pretending to be someone they're not", then I'm not sure what is. Also for specifically adult grooming,
More signs I feel apply are;
"The person becomes withdrawn, or they may seem troubled by something but unwilling to talk about it. Alternatively their emotions might become volatile." - When Wukong points out MK has been running around other mentors, MK sounds calm and cold, like he was withdrawn. Then when Wukong presses on, MK yells at him and doesn't talk about exactly what was bothering him other than "You just don't like that there's someone who actually teaching me what I need to know."
"You notice them using or wearing something new, that you didn't buy [or teach] for them." - I added teach because Wukong points out he never taught MK how to break a wall like that, and was concerned and upset that MK learned that too quickly. Within that same scene, after MK yells at him, that's when Wukong notices the new symbol on MK's jacket and frowns. That's when he knows MK is being groomed, and by who.
"Groomers often aim to isolate their targets from their family or friends." - Well, we never see Mei, Pigsy, Tang, or Sandy in this episode, after the first meeting and they act like MK was gone for a month or more (could easily be a week lol). On top of that, Macaque was causing a divide between MK and Wukong. MK was very clearly pretty isolated already, and so Macaque just had to remove MK for MK's full reliance.
"The person might be spending more time on the phone, or online, than usual. But they won’t say what sites they’re visiting, or who they’re talking to." - This speaks for itself, but it's likely MK was training more and more with Macaque than being around his own friends, especially considering by previous point.
youtube
This video goes into great detail on how it happens, why the victim is manipulated easily, and what it does to someone. Granted this video is about a long-time grooming, but I believe the point and the awareness stands. If Macaque had been grooming MK for about a year or more, I feel MK would be closer to these signs than he is in the cannon LMK. Anyways! I hope you had fun with my analysis, and let me know if you'd like more! I love to just ramble about the psychology of certain characters or the takeaways of LMK episodes! I'd love to do Wukong, Macaque as a whole (not just the episode), MK, Xiangliu/Nine mayhaps?? Or even the Focus episode or something else- I have a minor analysis on the focus episode already in my head lol
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Probably my most favorite thing about Sun Wukong is that he loves unconditionally.
In season 1, when MK actively goes behind his back to train with Macaque, he does get upset but forgives MK almost immediately.
He goes right back to loving MK, who, in all honesty, he probably wasn't too attached to at the time. He tells MK that the mistakes he made can be fixed and that they can work on that together.
Wukong somewhat does this with the Demon Bull Family as well, though most of that's background and off-screen stuff.
The first time he's in the same room as Demon Bull King since his imprisonment is naturally a little tense. Luckily, DBK got spooked by Lady Bone Demon so much that he dropped his conquering plans.
The next time he sees Wukong? Season 4 special's finale and becomes his fishing buddy! When Wukong arrives at the party with the popsicles, DBK smiles at him!
Those are the only times so far that the two interact, and Wukong isn't being actively malicious or holding a grudge or seemingly lost all affection he once had for his sworn brother.
I have personally run out of examples, but feel free to add on (hopefully involving more characters, too).
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⚠️ I am not chinese, so if any chinese person in the fandom wants to add something or just point out any mistake, please do ⚠️
I've seen people in the fandom call Macaque's smoke monster 'kaiju', but this is not a correct denomination.
It is better to call it "法相" (fa3 xiang4), meaning "image of (commonly Buddha)"
"佛教术语,指诸法之相状,包含体相(本质)与义相(意义)二者"
Trans.
"A Buddhist term that refers to the appearance of all dharmas, including both physical appearance (essence) and righteousness (significance)"

Following this definition, a 法相 is your true self, your essence, both physical and spiritual... meaning that Smokey (little guy) is not a 'kaiju'. It is an essence, Macaque's.
Same goes to all manifestations of characters who have a version of their 法相, it's their true essence.
Yes, you got it right! This little (not so little) guy is also a 法相.
(Don't call them 'kaiju', please).
Just to add, they can also be called 'war forms', since they appear in the original jttw.
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One detail I've noticed is that Wukong's outfit is different before and after Tripitaka places the circlet on him (and Wukong was notably unwilling to be chained):
Which is distinctly different than every other iteration of this scene we've been shown:
Other retellings of this moment have Wukong kneeling in servitude...when the reality is he was kneeling after being subdued—continuing lmk's tradition of biased/false narratives (like what was done with the multiple explanations of the samadhi fire). I think it's interesting to see the ways in which Wukong's past was made easier to swallow as time went on (or if you were Azure and didn't want to believe that Wukong had been changed by his journey lol)
#me pointing to MK's visions of Wukong's past in AHiB where Wukong is specifically wearing his jttw outfit: WAIT A MINUTE#WUKONG U FUCKING LIAR#U were not born out of the stone with clothes. Smh. What is this fake version of the story you're revealing to MK#I've decided amnesia rules makes me crazy#(<- could say this about literally ANY lmk episode)#lmk#lego monkie kid#lmk SWK#lmk analysis
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I saw someone on twitter point out how that this dadsy scene is literally the entire message of S5 in the first episode and oh my god it's making me ill
the whole “you can follow the written recipe to a tea but you’ll still change it to your taste” is how MK figured out how to solve everything with the colored stones, cause MK followed EVERYTHING the guardians said to do, what nuwa had made him to be!! but he did it to protect his friends, so even when he fought so hard to accomplish what he thought was right, it wasn't enough. cause he didn’t follow what he thought was the right way, he didn't follow his tastes
when he followed the recipe on his own, it didn’t taste right until pigsy helped him- HIS DAD, his FAMILY. It connects to how he listened to the guardians, listened to nuwa, even xiangliu! but it wasn’t right because he was alone through ALL of it! It wasn’t until he was with his family when he found the right answer, when he was reminded of who he was and what he wanted. he did everything the recipe said, but only when he added his tastes- AKA his family- is when he was satisfied with the outcome!!
god. I'm sobbing I love this show so much
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A new idea for new characters for Lego Monkie Kid



Hey hey I got an idea what if Lego Monkie Kid can make new characters for “Spiritual Primates”. Like the “Red Buttocks Baboon” and “Long-Armed Gibbon” (Drawings from “Overly Sarcastic Production”) I don’t think they have ever had an adaptation Lego you could be the first.
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This is a picture of Wukong's house before it was destroyed by Azure

These are pictures AFTER it was rebuilt.
Notice something different?
The lantern at the top is missing, the lantern which probably foreshadowed MK's "disappearance" this season. Or maybe how after Azure's destruction, MK was the only one left with trauma from the event?
It's also weird that Wukong and Macaque's lanterns made it out at all, are those things made of titanium???
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Posting this because it's not getting out of my head-
OK SO some months ago, i saw a post pointing out how Wukong seems to have a thing with bows and ribbons, since almost all of his outfits include them in some way.
So i decided to look into it.





Yeah, this guy does love bows.
The only times i could find that he DIDN'T use any ribbons or bows was when he was possessed by LBD and, weirdly enough, in The King, The Prince And The Shadow.


(There are also two flashback scenes in the s4 special where he doesnt use bows, but I'm not counting them since it was REALLY at the start of Wukong's life and he probably didn't even know what a bow was. There might be more but I don't remember them.)
Now this is all cool and stuff(i genuinely think this is cool), but I noticed something in Season 4's brotherhood flashbacks.

As you can see, the other members of The Brotherhood may use scarfs and similar piece of clothing, but no one else really uses any sort of ribbons like Wukong does.
...that is, no one...


...Except Macaque. The person who Wukong seemed to be the closest to before the Journey started.
Guess who stopped using bows after their friendship turned bitter and the ties(hah) on their relationship were cut?

#Fun fact I almost deleted this because i looked a thing up and saw that Zhu baije and sha wujing also use ribbons in s4#But i realized that my point still stands so yeah#Lmk#Lmk wukong#Lmk macaque#...does this count as an analysis?#I think it does??#lmk analysis#The thing of macaque using wukong's bows really TIES IN with this theme of him bsing a reflex/ a shadow of wukong am i right?#I am not sorry for the jokes#ALSO ALSO ALSO MK STARTED WEARING A BOW IN HIS S4 OUTFIT#WHICH COULD BE SEEN AS A SYMBOL OF HIM AND WUKONG GWTTING CLOSER AND MK SEEING HIM BEYOND THE MONKEY KING
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With just how thorough Sun Wukong, (often characterized by his bullheadedness and impulsive, reckless behavior) is in obtaining MK’s consent before applying this power seal to him, it might seem a little out of character, right?
But then, when you think about it…
It’s almost like he’s got first-hand experience having his body and powers tampered with and controlled without his own consent, huh?
#Lego Monkie Kid#LMK Analysis#Sun Wukong#MK#Qi Xiaotian#Tang Sanzang#Sanzang bbygirl the narratively (unintentionally) does you so dirty#ocean my bestie I’m cranking that fucking video out because I NEED to plague the internet with my thoughts
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I want Pigsy's Noodles to be destroyed - a very angsty theory
(Spoilers)
I theorize this can happen, because if MK really does go apeshit, that would be the final trigger.

Because that little noodle shop, is the most comfortning place for MK.
Its the place he got a place to call home.

Its the place his dad is.
Its the place where he can seek comfort.
Therefore the best way to break MK, would be to take that away.
And then imagine if Pigsy was in the building when it got destroyed-
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LMK Sun Wukong Passive Suicidal Ideation Theory Part 2: Wukong's Low Self-Worth/Wukong's Immortal Curse
TW: Suicide and Suicidal Ideation
Alright, Part 2. Now I want to particularly discuss how despite Wukong's arrogant and egotistical facade, he truly thinks of himself as extremely lowly, leading to his more reckless and even suicidal tendencies.

Strike 1: S4E1 as he mentions to MK "You've done much more than I have ever done in my entire lifetime!"
While this is definitely can be a compliment, it's a compliment at the expense of himself. He downplays his own achievements due to his own insecurities about his failures and how he's messed up so badly. He sees MK as surpassing him, the good that he can most likely never become.

Strike 2: S4E11, he laments about making too many mistakes. not being able to live up to his original goal: Protecting the ones he cared so much about.
Wukong doesn't believe in himself to prove to the world that he can be better. So much has gone wrong in his life and the lives of others because of his actions, and when confronted, he essentially is so broken and worn down he loses all hope.

The third instance is S5E9, with the final mention before he tries to sacrifice himself: "The world needs you more than it needs me, bud."
Again, views himself as washed up, unable to be of use anymore. In his eyes, he might believe, "I'm unworthy to really be a hero of this world".
On top of this, Wukong seems to have a complicated relationship with his immortality. The way he seems to address it is always in a negative connotation.

This starts with the gag in S1E7 in which he meditates about being an immortal being while looking horrified at the aspect of never being able to die. While some could argue this could just be a funny gag (we know Wukong also jokes to lighten the mood in S3E14), if we look at it from a serious lens, Wukong seems to be scared of never being able to die.
And on top of that, we need to keep some stuff in mind. Everyone else around him has died off, reincarnated, etc (with the exception of the celestials but he’s not that close to most of them). He’s had to put down his Brotherhood one by one, he’s had to watch each of the great companions die off and now he’s left with their reincarnations. He’s the only one who’s stayed alive while everyone else has left. Wukong chose immortality before he could ever reckon with the consequences of immortality. And thus maybe he wants out.

(Also this Apology Scene is too good to not bring up-)
Wukong also mentions something of interest. That according to him in s3e14, “I’d never thought I’d live as long as I had-” Which has several implications to discuss about. The idea that he thought he would’ve somehow ended up dead due to some of his several reckless actions as a use to go out, or even somehow the celestial realm could’ve found a way to murder him. Did he think he’d eventually find himself ending his life one way or another? We don’t know but the dialogue here is quite concerning, especially since he is immortal.
But that's it for the mostly speculative evidence.
In the next and final part, I do want to try and address how Wukong correlates to the symptoms found in passive ideation as well as discuss some counterarguments.
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LMK'S "REDEMPTION ARCS"
I like Lego Monkie Kid's "redemption arcs", and that is a hill I'm willing to die on.
It's no secret that the 'redemption arcs' in LMK aren't your stereotypical redemption arcs, AND THAT'S OKAY!!!!!
I think that it's very nice to have evil/villainous characters have a moment of "It was at this moment that he knew... HE. FUCKED. UP." and then doing a 180 from their original plans.
The Demon Bull Family's arc is a great example of this. Heck, Princess Iron Fan and especially Red Son might not have even been antagonists if it wasn't for Demon Bull King wanting to take over the city/world. They love him so much that they were willing to follow him to the ends of the universe if that's what it took to help him fulfill his goals and dreams.
Then came their run-in with the Lady Bone Demon. That's when the Demon Bull King realized just how much his plans could cost his family if he chose to continue down this path. IT COULD COST THEM EVERYTHING
Everything that he just got back. The family who freed him from captivity, likely in spite of having been told that it would be a fruitless endeavor. His family: a beautiful wife and intelligent, innovative son who love him so much that they'd lay down their lives for him in a heartbeat. His plans could cost them their lives and almost did. While under LBD's influence, he attempted to strike his son... and Red Son didn't even try to move out of the way. He had no reaction period. DBK is absolutely strong enough to kill his son. Had his wife not stepped in, Red Son might have been killed by his own hand if the blow was hard enough. That realization alone of what LBD almost made him do could very well be the thing that made him turn back on the idea of world domination.
It makes total sense for a man who's number one priority is his family (even if he doesn't always show it) to give up on all else if his family is the price he has to pay.
It's just not worth it.
He later lectures Azure Lion on this topic of "The price is worth more than the payoff" when he says in season 4:
"This pursuit of yours has warped your mind, brother."
The exact same thing happened to him. DBK tried to warn him to turn back now.
But he didn't.
And now he's dead.
Doing a 180 saved the Demon Bull King's hide and it works so much better for the story overall than a long fleshed out redemption arc.
The villain getting a reality check is in my opinion a much better storytelling device than a redemption arc and is criminally underrated.
A metaphorical (lego) brick to the face is much more powerful in my opinion.
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I saw a post talking about how there’s a deep mischaracterization of Mk in the fandom specifically about his monkey form and I’m here to dissect it. (WIth doodles!)
Tldr: Will Mk end up hurting his family in season 5 due to his new Monkey form? Most likely no, but it is possible that he indirectly hurts them by not understanding the limits of his power.
First things first let’s collect a list of attributes that we know Mk has from past seasons. This will serve as a spine or checklist to see if certain actions are possible. A thing to keep in mind though is the ranking of each attribute as the writers of LMK wrote there are characters as complex and sometimes abandon certain character values if their center value is threatened.
Mk’s character value list (in my opinion) is as follows:
-Family
-Strength
-Freedom
-Dependability
with family and strength being so close to each other, so sometimes strength ends up as Mk’s main concern. Of course, all of these end up mixing at times and in the first seasons we see the mixing of these values gets him in trouble
Desiring the freedom of choice over listening to Wukong (Pig Pong Panic). Wanting to be dependable but overestimating his strength (Duplication). Wanting to be strong but forgets his family in the process (shadow play). Eventually, he gets his priorities in check and has ended up sticking to this list for most of seasons 3 and 4.
Now his flaws (in no particular order):
Impulsivity
Forgetfulness
Stubbornness
Blind devotion
He’s overcome a lot of these when he was forced to learn them in season 3. His stubbornness to not tell anyone what was happening with the LBD got people hurt. His impulsivity with his actions ended up crashing the ship, and almost sold his family to a goldfish demon.
(Text: Mk's Fault, Good Intentions, Trying mentor)
So he’s had to come up with methods of working around that. Mk’s blind devotion to Wukong almost got Mei killed, and we see how he changes because of it. At the end of season 3, Mk doesn’t explicitly say that he sees Wukong in a new light but he heavily implies it with the metaphor of a bowl of noodles.
So… Will Mk go crazy and end up hurting his friends?
I highly doubt it. While I toyed with the idea, Mk is a lot smarter than the fandom usually gives him credit for. He knows Wukong is flawed, and he still trusts in him because he knows Wukong is trying. Mk has faith in Wukong’s strength and the fact that Wukong also heavily values family, even if his isolation makes it a lot harder for him to do so. Just rewatch the ending of season 3 where Wukong apologizes to Mk and watch as Mk comes to the realization that Wukong is trying so hard to make up for his past. (They also drive this point home in season 4 with how disappointed Wukong sounds at himself for not finding Mk in the scroll in the season finale.)
(Text: He's flawed and trying, Has to accept harsh reality, Dissociating Coping mechanism)
So what about Mk’s impulsivity? I doubt that’d be something that directly harms his friends. He’s worked on his impulsivity by working with others (Redson in season 3 and Mei’s planning in season 4) to help fill in the gaps in his plans. In order for his impulsivity to harm others, you’d have to break that family value first or raise that value of strength and freedom. Most likely this flaw can manifest in Mk overdoing his Monkey form ™ and sending a shockwave that accidentally hurts the people around him. Probably manifesting either in training or while having fun with Mei (think about how Mk was in the Bad Weather episode).
Okay, what if Mk is tricked into it like he was in Season 4 (back to the flaw of blind devotion)? Mk has spent every season backstabbed by someone he trusted. We see him snap at Azure after he finds out that he was going to keep Wukong in the scroll. He snaps at Macaque in season 4. It’s safe to say that he’s learned, at least partially, to not trust others so blindly. Mk is also supposed to have gotten the “skill of self-reflection” in “Revenge of the Spider Queen” but his reflecting has mostly just impacted the other flaws.
(Text: Side note, Monkey Mk doesn't have a nose)
But there is one possibility I toy with, bottled up emotions. Mk has extremely big emotions but hates showing any emotion that can be seen as negative. He loves being happy and he’s not afraid to show it, but as soon as those emotions turn to doubt, anger, or sadness he bottles them up fast. He knows he can rely on his family, but he’s stubborn and thinks that his emotions aren’t worth that hassle. Take the ending of season 3 where Mk states that “he tries not to think too hard” about his own place in the universe, which could be due to a fear of losing the value of freedom if he has a specific role to play in the universe.
(Text: Guys He's so avoidant, forced to think about his identity, 18-early 20's and Identity crisis)
It’s worsened by the fact that every. other. character. avoids. their. emotions. No other characters in this series are open about their emotions except Tang and Sandy. And from season 3 (and a bit of season 4) we know that Mk doesn’t view Tang in an extremely positive light.
Not exactly negative, but his admiration lies more on the rest of the team. Macaque points this out in season 2 stating in “Shadow Play” that Mk should talk out his insecurities, but no one else does that.
That being said Mk isn’t entirely forgetful either. Macaque was a season 1 villain with his betrayal going through season 3. Mk’s high value of family, and flaw of blind devotion, make him want to give him a chance as Macaque’s past is connected with Wukong’s. HOWEVER, Mk is also stubborn and hasn’t forgiven Macaque’s actions. That’s why he snaps, plus the fact that Macaque is terrible at direct communication. Like I said before, Mk won’t directly hurt anyone he cares about, but if his monkey form is highly connected with his emotions (as most magic tends to be) having those bottled-up insecurities might accidentally cause Mk to unleash more power than he means to.
(Text: Normal, Fed up Meter, rage (on jar))
I have no idea where season 5 is going to go, but I’m so excited about the possibilities.
(Text: Terrified of his actions hurting his family. UNSTABLE!!!)
#lmk#lego monkie kid#speck rambles#lmk analysis#lmk mk#monkie kid#lmk qi xiaotian#My analysis isn't perfect but i agree that most of the fandom paints Mk as this dumb overly trusting kid#when hes closer to a painfully optimistic adult who falls on bad coping mechanisms such as naivety and avoidance#He's smart yall. He can learn and adapt faster than most people in the show#He just has big emotions that pass off as childish moments and as a neurodivergent person I can relate too strongly ... anyways
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