#astruc is a hack

[a-flaming-idiot]

I think the reason I like redeemed Lila so much is a combination of her having nice potential for redemption and being a normal cast member conceptually and just to spite Astruc who decided the two greatest evils in the world are a pair of fourteen-year-old girls who he will snap the universe over his knee to make as impractically evil as possible.

[i-am-going-to-skream]

Someone locked thomas asscheeks out of the studio when they where making the mlb movie and it shows

[anxresi]

A Short Zoe Rant Cos I Is Bored

The ONLY way Zoe would’ve been remotely acceptable in the show is if she’d been introduced MUCH earlier.

Like, the very first season.

Show her as a ‘counterpoint’ to Bully Chloe as one who is actually bullied, and how being raised in a completely different country & continent can influence one’s behavior & outlook.

Maybe she can have a few cameo scenes until she’s a full-time regular, show her chatting on the phone to her dad, sending letters to her sister etc.

Then, when she eventually DOES turn up later, give her more personality than ‘feel sorry for me, oh and btw I’m a lesbian’. Not everyone has to fall hard for her the minute she appears, and if you ARE going to make her a superhero, don’t give her the miraculous in her second ever episode!

And Mr Astruc wonders where these accusations of favoritism come from, when all this coincides with Chloe’s sudden descent from being a semi-complex character to a raving lunatic sociopath? Anyway…

Have Zoe perform some actual function in the show: like, give her a pivotal role in her sister’s redemption. Let her have some negative traits, apart from I-don’t know-how-special-I-truly-am (a common trait of badly written Mary Sues). Don’t let the finality of her character arc be a single pink streak in her hair(!) (talk about lack of ambition).

A few other ideas: Give her a girlfriend crush who ISN’T Marinette, because not everything has to revolve around Baker Girl. Quit putting words in the mouths of other characters how ‘perfect’ she is to manipulate and influence the young audience, it’s distracting and annoying.

Basically, the only thing I’d keep about her in her current incarnation are her shoes, which are pretty groovy TBH. Everything else can be ditched, including her name (Too close to ‘Chloe’ idk… I think something like ‘Arabelle’ would suit her) and design, (again, too similar to Baker Girl)

But, as anyone with half a brain cell would’ve figured out by now, she was only created as a flawless counterpoint to you-know-who so Mr Astruc and his lovable team of hacks wouldn’t have to do any real development on Chloe… they gave us a ready-made, blandly nicey-nice ‘cute’ replacement to just simper away in the background without doing anything of value and contributing the grand total of nothing to the dynamic of S4 onwards.

And seeing as how S4 is generally seen by a lot of people as the beginning of a steep decline in quality of the show, I guess she’s in good company.

Welcome to the dumpster fire, Zoe. We have cake! 🔥 🧁

[ilikekidsshows]

Lately I've seen there's... a trend(?) of how people claimed/write a "girlboss" character. a lot of "girlboss" character in media I've seen nowadays are tend to be arrogant, self-centered, low empathy and entitled and I'm just completely baffled. Because I've also seen people posting about how girls nowadays just want power with no accountability, demand to be treated like a queen but has nothing to offer back, etc. like, these character portrayal in media really didn't beat the allegation at all and instead seems to be validating these real girl behavior.

It's intereting though, since this feel very backward for me. Winx (early season), Kim Possible and W.I.T.C.H, are what I'd call a girl power cartoon. Those girls are so badass without needing the narrative use the buzzword every so often or putting down the boys just to prop the girls. Which is funny because I know Astruc also work on W.I.T.C.H before and I hear most of the writers also not the first timer and yet Miraculous is the most horrible thing I've ever watch and a disgrace to superhero and magical girl genre.

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I think wires got crossed somewhere, and now people think “girlboss” is the same thing as progressive female character writing. This happens about every five years when a new female character archetype is really successful in one thing and every hack who can’t actually write women tries to copy the archetype with no understanding. Still, I think Marinette Astruc-Cheng just gets favorite child favoritism from the writers.

I tried to look into the writing teams behind these shows and they were also written by older men, so Astruc being an old, out of touch man with sexist ideas about young girls could be a factor, but probably not the only one. But, I did find a similarity that these older shows share that Miraculous lacked. Kim Possible W.I.T.C.H. and Winx Club all had experienced head writers and directors behind them. Kim Possible was created and written by people who knew what they were making and for whom and then put their best foot forward with a long career of TV writing behind them. W.I.T.C.H.’s animated adaptation was written by an experienced writing team who had experience writing for TV and with each other. W.I.T.C.H.’s concept and course comic was also created by a trio of comic book writers with women in it. The original Winx Club was created and directed by an experienced comic book writer.

When you really think about it, a lot of the bigger issues with Miraculous’ writing are very similar to the kinds of problems you’d see in the fanfic of someone writing their first fanfics. The main character of the story is an attention black hole, the morality and sympathy follows the main character to such a degree that it just seems like the protagonist decides the morality, the continuity is out of whack and new ideas get introduced and dropped constantly like a beginner writer drops fics after the second chapter. A lack of balance and consistency are common beginner writer issues, because you need to practise those things. Miraculous, in a novel format, would not be out of place being posted on Wattpad.

However, the thing about this is that Miraculous’ writing has gotten worse the longer it’s gone on. Instead of the writers getting more experienced and becoming better at writing, they’ve become stuck on the specific points that make the writing so weak to begin with. This is probably because they’re stuck writing the same characters and the same formula instead of expanding their creativity. The original series used a lot of guest writers who’d come in to write one or a few episodes before dipping and the latest season, which has been praised for individual episodes, has also brought new people in. These people were most likely the ones with actual writing experience and that’s where the better quality came from.

People who have experience in writing just write better stuff.

[immaturityofthomasastruc]

It’s pretty funny looking at the Marionette can’t get akumatized thing considering we’ve had Kagami akumatized without Hawkmoth knowing anything despite her knowing ladybug’s civilian identity. This fact negates the only thing keeping this plot from getting off the ground which I think was Astruc’s point in saying “the plot wouldn’t work”. It can and you’ve shown it can, you just need to put a bit of elbow grease into it. I personally think he didn’t want to but wanted a reason besides that.

The show also loses the excuse that only Marinette can save the day, as we've seen Alya and Adrien use the Ladybug Miraculous without a hitch (Hack-San, Passion).

[princess-of-the-corner]

I kinda love how much of the Miraculous fandom is focused on fixing the show.

Like other fandoms are like “ok so I don’t like this thing so I will fix this thing and let the rest unchanged”

The Miraculous fandom is like “canon is dead Thomas Astruc is a talentless hack and we all must fix the shit he made and create something good out of it”

If I had a nickel for every time the fandom as a whole was like 'fuck the later bits and everything the creator says on social media I'm sandboxing the shit out of this dope as hell concept' I would have two nickels.

Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

[lordmartiya]

Tell me, how do you feel about what canon is doing with Lila right now?

Pity. Pity at the story, pity at so many good ideas implemented horribly, pity at a show filled of good stuff that happened by accident and was ruined because they didn't notice they had a perfect setup with Lila, a wonderful tragedy with Chloè's backsliding in season 4, what saying certain five Miraculous being element aligned actually means, that the Order doesn't fit in Tibet at all, or that Nora's armbands and insistence at being called by her ring name are perfect for her being a Muay Thai practitioner, just to mention some of it.

And I feel insulted at the fact a HACK like Astruc can get fame and wealth for having a good idea and turning it into a dumpster fire while so many better storytellers languish.

[10-dutchies-12-bicycles]

the fuck you MEAN Lila’s hair is a wig?!

- a person who refuses to go back to watching mlb but is still curious about the wackassery of it all

OK SO BASiCALLY

LILA IS ACTUALLY SOME KIND OF SECRET IDENTITY OF THIS GIRL CALLED CERISE WHO ACTUALLY HAS SHORT HAIR. SHE HAS LIKE A PIXIE CUT

She just puts on a wig and contact lenses for the lila persona or some shit. also she has a ton of wigs and colored contacts like shes in some kinda spy thriller shes insane shes constantly like undercover as like 5 different ppl idk

also she has two moms??? or like. lila rossi's mom and the Second (Secret) Mom??? (who uses sign language!! neat! :3) and i dont think lila rossis mom knows about her REAL(????) mom (sign language mom) but sign language mom knows abt lila rossi mom which makes me slightly concerned that lila/cerise stole the identity of the REAL lila rossi like a decade ago and has been living as a lila rossi stand-in for the past 10 years after she buried the body idfk lol (joke theory. not an actual theory. but lets just say that the fact that this "lila killed someone and stole their identity" theory is semi-believable is already enough to show how bonkers season 5 was)

but yea she just disguises herself like Constantly and turns out lila rossi was just one of her evil spy personas. she also has an evil spy basement lair with like hacking equipment or sth. and she used Remote Spy Manipulation (an earpiece and strategic wording lmfao) to manipulate chloe into becoming the mayor of paris for like a week. chloe then proceeded to sicc robot cops on everyone's asses

also also after gabriel kicked the bucket and went to heaven together with emelie or whatever the fuck nooroo's miraculous was lost (it fell into the water at the bottom of gabriel's evil basement) but its revealed at the end of the finale that surprise surprise! cerise/lila/weirdospygirl has the brooch and will presumably be the big bad for the foreseeable future. IF she survives being possessed or some shit. idk she got attacked by a white light or sth and she was like "GASP D:" and then the season ended ¯\_(:/)_/¯ 

other fun things that happened this season:

adrinette ACTUALLY CANON (NO YEA FOR REAL) ok ok so basically. at the start of s5 marinette gets a crush on chat noir and adrien crushes on marinette instead of ladybug. eventually marinette allows herself to love adrien again and adrinette slowly get together like halfway thru s5 or sth. everyone ships it. and no. they do NOT know each others secret identities :')

luka knows the identities of both chat noir and ladybug as established in... season 4...? iirc? unfortunately halfway thru s5 gabriel figured out that luka knows so luka fled the country and went on a fun father-son-crocodile bonding trip (so like. with jagged stone, penny, and fang) to become tibetan monks. under the guidance of master fu's superior who we got introduced to last season (one of the monks who were like magically frozen in stone for 150 years or whatever)

tikki and plag biblically accurate angels confirmed. they can combine into ANOTHER biblically accurate angel called gimmi. gimmi granted gabriel his wish and now the world ended, gabriel is dead, etc etc adrinette lives happily ever after or sth

oh yea also felix kagami and adrien are sentimonsters. if you remember last year on twitter when thomas astruc swore up and down that senti!adrien theory was bullshit? yea so. he lied. he played a longcon. felix and kagami are in a relationship and both know that theyre sentis but adrien is like,,,, VERY HEAVILY FUCKING IMPLIED to also be a sentimonster except he doesnt know that yet. rip adrien. i think marinette knows abt kagami and felix being sentimonsters!??!?!?!??!? it was a VERY confusing scene like felix and kagami explained it to marinette thru interpretative dance T_T

OH YEA ALSO ladybug (fused w the cat miraculous. i forgot what name she gave herself) WAIT NO. BUGNOIR OR SOMETHING. ok so bugnoir fought hawk SHIT NO shadowmoth one-on-one and discovered he was gabriel and also saw his evil lair and emilie in the fridge coffin yanno. but yea adrien doesnt know. gabriel died and paris assumes he was the hero who defeated haw-SHADOWMOTH and adrien thinks so too. marinette is i think? the only one who knows gabriel was the big bad. aside from lila/cerise bc she knows everything with her stupid evil spy skills 🙄 oh yea lila also got a hold of all of gabriels secret files, including his photocopies of the grimoire

ON THAT NOTE gabriel was suuuppeerrr manipulatively nice to adrien this season and nathalie came SOOOOO SO SO SOOO CLOSE to throttling him on like at LEAST 5 occasions bc she cares for adrien more than she does for gabriel and she was SO gaslight gatekeep girlboss this season it was great like shes a few hours away from dying herself and she STILL tried to shoot gabriel with a crossbow lmao

[cobrawolfmeiji]

End of Ladybug: ZAG's Blue Harvest?

It is no surprise to everyone who is a Ladybug fan that the title of the upcoming special has raised eyebrows. The new Special, coming this year is titled "The End of Ladybug" and has shocked the fandom and even those who are not even in the fandom. This leads to the question: why?

The answer might be two worlds: "Blue Harvest"

when George Lucas was filming "Star Wars Episode VI: The Return of the Jedi" he used a fake title "Blue Harvest" to hide behind. He used this mainly when filming in The Yuma Desert and Grizzly Creek Redwoods State Park. people who worked on the film wore hates and jackets with the name "Blue Harvest" on them with the claim they were filming a horror movie (which were common in the 1980s.)

Could this be what Jeremy Zag and Thomas Astruc are pulling?

The answer might be yes as ZAG Animation has also been doing another trick Lucasfilm has pulled off for the sequel trilogy: Fake Leaks.

Lucasfilm pulled off several fake leaks to prevent true leakers from revealing too much about the Sequels, as several Old EU Purists tried to hack into Lucasfilm and Disney to try and ruin the movies out of revenge for the Old EU being ended by Lucasfilm (The only Old EU material left is Star Wars The Old Republic, which many have said might be soon moved to Canon.)

After what was known as the "Big Big Leak" of the last half of Season 5 (with a few fake leaks also being leaked), Zas and Astruc did not take chances for The Ladybug and Chat Noir Movie, the upcoming specials or Season Six, so they started sending out fake leaks....a lot of them. many of these fakes were found out by a few people, along with the fact that did used and said sorry for using pictures on DeviantArt, for fake leaks. The biggest fake leak is the infamous "Bible' of Miraculous, showing what it claimed to be the full episode list of Season 6, only to be proven to be faked.

So to Zag and Astruc, I say bravo for your deception of those who want spoilers.

[marcmarcmomarc]

Miraculous 3: China

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Alain Garcia

Noam Kaniel

Jeremy Zag

Original “Avatar: The Last Airbender” Themes by

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Jeremy Zuckerman

Original Crossover Media Themes by

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Patrick Doyle, Rupert Gregson-Williams

Mark Mancina, Alan Menken

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Casting by

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Marinette Dupain-Cheng will return in

Miraculous 4: London

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Cast

Marinette Dupain-Cheng: Cristina Vee

Adrien Agreste: Bryce Papenbrook

Tikki: Mela Lee

Plagg: Max Mittelman

Fei Wu: Xanthe Huynh

Cash: Caleb Yen

Su-Han: Kaiji Tang

Wang Cheng: Todd Haberkorn

Mei Shi: Mark Chen

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Alya Césaire: Carrie Keranen

Nino Lahiffe: Zeno Robinson

Trixx: Cherami Leigh

Wayzz: Christopher Corey Smith

Tom Dupain: Christopher Corey Smith

Sabine Cheng: Anne Yatco

Chloé Bourgeois: Selah Victor

Pollen: Cassandra Lee Morris

Sabrina Raincomprix: Cassandra Lee Morris

Mylène Haprèle: Jessica Gee

Kim Chiến Lê-Ature: Grant George

Gabriel Agreste: Keith Silverstein

Lila Rossi: Lisa Kay Jennings

Max Kanté: Zeno Robinson

Ivan Bruel: Max Mittelman

Alix Kubdel: Kira Buckland

Nora Césaire: Laila Berzins

Nathaniel Kurtzberg: Michael Sinterniklaas

Nadja Chamack: Sabrina Weisz

Nathalie Sancoeur: Sabrina Weisz

Luka Couffaine: Andrew Russell

Rose Lavillant: Reba Buhr

Marc Anciel: Alejandro Saab

Kagami Tsurugi: Faye Mata

Zoé Lee: Deneen Melody

Nooroo: Ben Diskin

Duusu: Melissa Fahn

Delmar: Cedric Williams

Ondine: Erika Harlacher

Markov: Grant George

Juleka Couffaine: Reba Buhr

Émilie Agreste: Colleen O’Shaughnessey

Wang Fu: Paul St. Peter

Marianne Fu: Barbara Goodson

Olympia Hill: Anairis Quiñones

Barbara Keynes: Anairis Quiñones

Jessica Keynes: Jaimi Gray

Aeon: Kimberly Woods

Liiri: Cedric Williams

Manon Chamack: Stephanie Sheh

Chris Lahiffe: Alejandro Saab

Ella Césaire: Cherami Leigh

Etta Césaire: Cherami Leigh

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Mei Cheng: Emi Lo

Yan Cheng: Keone Young

Shu Yin Cheng: Bree Han

Bastille: Brook Chalmers

Lian: Aleks Le

Kang: Alan Chow

Jiao: Cory Yee

Hou Hou: Brook Chalmers

Long Long: Christopher Corey Smith

She She: Carrie Keranen

Tang Tang: Mela Lee

Xiong Xiong: Sabrina Weisz

Ma Ma: Dave Trosko

Hu Hu: Yuri Lowenthal

Ying Ying: AmaLee

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Aang: Davis Pak

Zuko: Dante Basco

Katara: Mae Whitman

Sokka: Jack DeSena

Toph Beifong: Jessie Flower

Suki: Jennie Kwan

Iroh: Greg Baldwin

Azula: Grey DeLisle

Mai: Cricket Leigh

Ty Lee: Olivia Hack

Appa: Dee Bradley Baker

Momo: Dee Bradley Baker

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Chief Hakoda: André Sogliuzzo

Bato: Richard McGonagle

King Bumi: André Sogliuzzo

Master Pakku: Victor Brandt

Master Piandao: Robert Patrick

Master Jeong-Jeong: Keone Young

Haru: Michael Dow

Tyro: Kevin Michael Richardson

Smellerbee: Nika Futterman

The Duke: Nick Kishiyama

Pipsqueak: Sterling Young

Longshot: Marc Donato

The Boulder: Mick Foley

Big Bad Hippo: Kevin Michael Richardson

Mechanist: Cory Yee

Teo: Alex Felten

Huu: William H. Bassett

Due: Carlos Alazraqui

Tho: Carlos Alazraqui

Guru Pathik: Brian George

Kanna “Gran-Gran”: Melendy Britt

King Kuei: Phil LaMarr

Ursa: Jen Cohn

June: Jennifer Hale

Cabbage Merchant Cai: James Sie

Hahn: Ben Diskin

Joo Dee: Lauren Tom

General Shinu: Nick Jameson

Lo: Takayo Fischer

Li: Takayo Fischer

Chief Arnook: Jon Polito

Chit Sang: Ezekial Rollins

Sha-Mo: Bill Bolender

Ghashiun: Paul McKenny

Haru’s Mother: Pat Musick

Fire Sage Shyu: Michael Yama

Lieutenant Jee: Jim Meskimen

Aunt Wu: Tsai Chin

Meng: Jessie Flower

General Fong: Daniel Dae Kim

Chong: Dee Bradley Baker

Lily: Laraine Newman

Moku: Derek Basco

Song: Kim Mai Guest

Song’s Mother: Barbara Goodson

Michi: Grey DeLisle

Tom-Tom: Tara Strong

Lao Beifong: Cam Clarke

Poppy Beifong: Michelle Carteris

General Sung: Barry Dennen

Madame Macmu-Ling: Melinda Clarke

Jin: Marcella Lentz-Pope

General How: Jim Meskimen

On Ji: Tinashe

Shoji: Noah Luke

Chan: Erik von Detten

Ming: Serena Williams

Bosco: Clancy Brown

Nyla: Dee Bradley Baker

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Yi: Chloe Bennet

Jin: Tenzing Norgay Trainor

Peng: Ethan Loh

Nai Nai: Tsai Chin

Mei: Michelle Wong

Mr. Burnish: Suzy Eddie Izzard

Everest: Joseph Izzo

Jack Frost: Chris Pine

Tooth Fairy: Isla Fisher

North: Alec Baldwin

Easter Bunny: Hugh Jackman

Jamie Bennett: Dakota Goyo

Caleb: Khamani Griffin

Claude: Kamil McFadden

Cupcake: Dominique Grund

Monty: Jacob Bertrand

Pippa: Olivia Mattingly

Sophie Bennett: Georgie Grieve

Anna: Kristen Bell

Elsa: Idina Menzel

Kristoff: Jonathan Groff

Olaf: Josh Gad

Sven: Frank Welker

Destin Mattias: Sterling K. Brown

Yelena: Martha Plimpton

Ryder: Jason Ritter

Honeymaren: Rachel Matthews

Grandpabbie: Ciarán Hinds

Oaken: Chris Williams

Bulda: Maia Wilson

Marshmallow: Paul Briggs

Rapunzel Fitzherbert: Mandy Moore

Eugene Fitzherbert: Zachary Levi

Queen Ariana: Kari Wahlgren

King Frederic: Clancy Brown

Pascal: Bob Bergen

Maximus: Nathan Greno

Hook Hand: Brad Garrett

Big Nose: Chris Marlow

Shorty: Paul F. Tompkins

Vladimir: Charles Halford

Ulf: Eric Deiboldt

Attila Buckethead: Byron Howard

Sideburns Stabbington: Ron Perlman

Patchy Stabbington: Brian Hull

Moana: Auli’i Cravalho

Maui: Dwayne Johnson

Chief Tui: Temuera Morrison

Sina: Nicole Scherzinger

Simea: Khaleesi Lambert-Tsuda

Loto: Rose Matafeo

Kele: David Fane

Moni: Hualalai Chung

Heihei: Alan Tudyk

Tiana: Anika Noni Rose

Naveen: Bruno Campos

Louis: Michael-Leon Wooley

Charlotte La Bouff: Jennifer Cody

Eli La Bouff (Big Daddy): John Goodman

Mama Odie: Jenifer Lewis

Eudora: Oprah Winfrey

Merida: Kelly Macdonald

Elinor: Emma Thompson

Fergus: Billy Connolly

Lord MacGuffin: Kevin McKidd

Lord Macintosh: Craig Ferguson

Lord Dingwall: David Tennant

Maudie: Michelle Gomez

Young MacGuffin: Kevin McKidd

Young Macintosh: Steven Cree

Wee Dingwall: Callum O’Neill

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Ozai: Mark Hamill

Boiling Rock Warden: Wade Williams

Prison Rig Warden: George Takei

Long Feng: Clancy Brown

Hama: Tress MacNeille

Pitch Black: Jude Law

Hans: Santino Fontana

Tamatoa: Jemaine Clement

Lawrence: Peter Bartlett

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Adrien Agreste: Drew Ryan Scott

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Parody of “The Amazing World of Elmore” from “The Amazing World of Gumball”

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[ilikekidsshows]

Yeah, like, what even is this? How does something this egregious even happen? Did the writers plan to tackle Chloé's trauma and then change their mind and are downplaying what actually happened? Were we supposed to always find Chloé's mistreatment in her mom's hands funny and cheer at Marinette "winning" for getting more respect from her?

Or is it actually true that Astruc was just out of the room whenever people wrote Chloé in season two so he never realized there were multiple episodes making Chloé sympathetic and a clear victim of mistreatment and when he came back he told everyone to keep writing like these scenes never happend? What, did he have insane diarrea for the entire two years that season two was in production so he was always out and never noticed them give Chloé trauma?

Like, either he's a hack gaslighting people about an aborted story arc he put in the series, or he's a hack gaslighting people about a story arc he didn't approve of because he was too incompetent to notice it being produced under his nose.

Or, you know, he's an abuse apologist who thinks only hitting a child counts as abuse. Timothy Albatross thinks a parent constantly and on purpose misnaming their child isn't abuse or damaging. I guess, since he thinks it's so harmless, we don't need to call Tatertot Ambulance by his real name anymore. Since, if a parent doing it to their child is okay, a bunch of strangers doing it to him will not even be remotely upsetting.

tweets by @Thomas_Astruc / audrey & chloé bourgeois, style queen & queen wasp

[ilikekidsshows]

Hey, you don't suppose that there are a couple of fans who hold a high regard to Astruc and his writing team, right? I mean, normally, you do hold on as such towards your favorite cartoon creators and writers, but that usually depends on the writing and storytelling. Take the animated web series, Murder Drones, for example. Not only do I love the animation and character designs, but I also love many of the characters and the innovative writing. Sure that it was only eight episodes, but at least it kept me entertained and kept me wanting for more. As for Miraculous Ladybug, I had only been observing the series through fan art, fan stories, clips, GIFs, and YouTube reviews. While I hold high regards towards the earlier seasons, I can't do the same for the rest of the series because of the constant character derailments and rampant abandonment of concepts and story arcs. I want to watch the show for myself and witness a little bit of its magic, but because of its current state, I can't. Ergo, I can't hold any amount of regard towards Astruc and his team.

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Maybe, I mean, I have seen people who do insist that Miraculous is feminist and innovative. The post-retool seasons have also been called an improvement on the originals, so it really is a matter of taste. Like, the people insisting that Marinette's character flaws will totally get addressed and the writers are really going somewhere do have to think the creative team has some ability to pull that off. There are even people claiming that the backlash against Marinette is part of some master plan the writers have put together and the payoff to that setup will be so glorious we’ll instantly forgive Marinette, the show and the writers for everything.

However, there are also Maripologists who still watch the show and consider the writing team hacks that are making their queen look bad, so, like, to each their own.

[escaping-thoughts-reviews]

I agree, but after reading how Chloé’s story potentially ends this season, this scene sounds dishonest coming from the writers.

A parent that doesn’t care for ones child is a monster, except the Bougeois. In that case André is a poor man that did nothing wrong (although Audrey left when Chloé was a toddler and he was responsible for her upbringing) and Audrey is as evil as her daughter, who deserves all the abuse, sorry, forgot in Astruc’s mind it’s not abuse if you hate the character, it’s poetic justice. My bad.

[chronicallylatetotheparty]

(the only thing Revelator proved is that Marinette is so fucking selfish she'd rather let her best friend mind wipe herself rather than have a difficult conversation with her boyfriend)

What part of Abuse Apologism is Never Justifiable are you not getting?

Do I have to spell it out for you?

Marinette isn't real.

Thomas Astruc, the hack who publicly stated that he doesn't see Gabriel Agreste as an abuser, he's real.

That's who you're regurgitating abuse apologia from every time one of y'all wants to use Marinette's anxiety as an excuse for why lying to Adrien about his abuser, is fine actually.

Marinette is not entitled to Adrien's forgiveness for lying to him about his abuser every single day since the season five finale.

Marinette is not entitled to Adrien's forgiveness about her abuse apologism just because she's fucking sad about it.

Marinette is not entitled to Adrien's emotional labour just because she's going through some shit.

She's not the one who lost her fucking father.

She's not the one who's life is in danger because her partner would rather have a pity party rather than tell the "love of their life" that their fucking soul is inside their parents wedding ring.

She's not the one whose cousin could murder her with a snap of his fingers.

This. Is. Not. About. Marinette.

This is about you @jack-of-heartstrings and everyone else in the fandom outright ignoring the abuse apologism.

Because if some rando on the Internet can't even acknowledge whenever someone says "abuse apologism" long enough to say "no she didn't" then why the fuck would I EVER trust Thomas "Abuse Apologist" Astruc to stop coddling his pretend daughter with his ex long enough to center Adrien's feelings about his own fucking father.

Funny how Maripologists only talk about how "all the kids were traumatized by Gabriel" in order to minimize Adrien's trauma/re-center Marinette.

Because if we're going with "all the kids were traumatized" then the logical conclusion is that they ALL deserve to be angry at Marinette for lying to them about the guy that brainwashed them. 😤

[gale-gentlepenguin]

I assume you have been Hacked if you decided all of the sudden to agree with all of Thomas Astruc's decisions and opinions.

Do you even follow me?| Not really | Maybe? | Thats reasonable | A solid assumption. | You passed the test |

Oh his decisions are meh. Not all his choices were bad.

I just think he has a bunch of Garbage takes on things.

[banterscanter]

Hi, I’m mad at ML for using the SAME FUCKING RIG for Felix.