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Honestly, it doesn't really help that the class would occasionally be an ass to Chloe and proceed to get upset that she reacted.
Like the time Marinette started talking shit Chloe when Adrien asked Chloe if she got something for Bustier's birthday, of course how Chloe reacted wasn't good or really excusable but literally that entire conflict only happened because Marinette decided to be a dick for no reason.
I've said this multiple times, and I'll say it again: Nobody in the class is obligated to dedicate time to make Chloe change her ways. The problem is that the show wants the audience to believe they did try, when they barely did anything. Now, because they gave up on her after the events of Season 3, the writers believe it's okay for everyone to insult Chloe while acting like they're better than her... when Chloe already acts like she's better than everyone else and insults people too.
The issue isn't whether you agree with Chloe deserving redemption or not, it's how often the show teaches kids it's okay to be mean to bullies if they're mean to you.
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cray-cray-anime · 9 months
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thomas asstruc gives off classism vibes (and much more other bad vibes)
Not only cos of the whole every poor fam got great life/fam while rich kids don't in the show
But like how he will not take criticism from anyone and noone can write better cos they just wouldn't get doing work with "all these editorial constraints" and he's a professional (his words basically)
And honestly bad writing one thing, it another to enforce in your writing shitty things and act shitty to even the slightest criticism no matter how respectful and polite
So yeah I'd honestly suggest not watching, let ratings go down, i could really care less how it can get any worse (or better meaning they wasted like half the seasons)
The show had enough seasons many shows would kill for and crew are killing it but in the bad way
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animehime94 · 2 years
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My Take of ML Bible
I just read the full thing so.... yeah. You should scroll past to avoid spoilers.
First of all, WHAT THE ACTUAL F IS THIS HOT MESS
HOW COULD AN ENTIRE SHOW BIBLE GET LEAKED ONLINE???
The document literally has all character dynamics, everything up until season 6.
So I got spoiled the entire season 5 when we just started it 🤦🤦🤦
The document is from last year so there SHOULD be some changes but...
Astruc has already said each season gets written 1-2 years before the episodes air on TV. So it's probably too late to change season 5 🤦
When we got episode titles, I thought season 5 would be just like Cardcaptor Sakura. Ladybug and Chat Noir would regain a miraculous every episode.
But after reading that Monarch has melted each miraculous into rings and he can "transfer" the powers to his akuma victims, I'm not so sure.
I mean how will they even undo this damage?
And the enemy after Monarch is Lila 🥱
Who SOMEHOW has at least 3 different families and identities, with ZERO clues before season 5.
WHAT THE ACTUAL F PART 2
Why would she even need so many families at the same time?
I would understand if she was an orphan and she got adopted by different families since her childhood...
....but even in that case, it makes NO SENSE that she calls all of them mom and is enrolled at 2 schools at the same time.
I hope we get a good backstory when that episode comes out, but I'm not too hopeful after seeing the entire season.
They are reversing the love square, only for Tikki and Plagg to get suddenly fed up with it and force a reveal mid-season.
Which again, is OOC and doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. What happened to the rule of we can't reveal, or even SAY the names of our holders?
Another thing seems to be Zoe's out of nowhere crush on Mari and she gets rewarded with BC Miraculous for the two parter?????
She only had like what? 4 episodes about her at most and she still had time to fall for Mari?
Don't get me wrong here, I love relationships when they are done right. But this one right here is just another upcoming mess.
Zoe's just a good version of Chloe with nothing else defining her. So I don't think her crush on Mari will be handled well 🤦
Poor Mari can't get a break either. Even when she enters a relationship, her past haunts her. LEAVE HER ALONE SHE DESERVES BETTER.
SHE. DESERVES. BETTER.
But Astruc seems to believe that teenage girls are naive, evil and miserable. That's what I understand from seeing how he treats his girl characters.
On the other hand, Adrien, who SHOULD KNOW THE TRUTH, knows absolutely nothing.
One of the reasons I kept watching ML was seeing how Adrien would react to learning his dad is the POS villain and how he would move forward. So I feel robbed, frustrated and angry.
Luka goes to Brazil subplot is another WTF reaction I had. He can stay in Paris without revealing the heroes.
Trust me. They won't even need him to reveal anything since the kwamis will do it by themselves 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
...and how does he even know Suhan? Did I miss an episode?
Last but not least, save Nooroo 2K22. Poor Kwami keeps literally falling into wrong hands 😭😭😭
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I want to ask you two things
1) Does Dobson knows about the existence of this blog?
2) Did You know that You inspired another blog similar to yours called the inmmaturity of Thomas Astruc? (That's the creator of Miraculous) that blog basically wants to do the same thing as yours, call out all the bullshit that Thomas says on his social media
1. He did. Found out about me fairly soon after he started tumblr again, but only would refer to me as “the harassment blog” or in the vaguest of terms in means of trying to get sympathy. He only fully acknowledged the blog shortly before he fully quit and the whole thing with his “Cabin’s Rest” comic, aka the Muslim Vampire comic.
2. I do, actually. They brought it up to me shortly before they started the blog and we talk occasionally. Blog does good work, if anyone watches/watched Miraculous Ladybug, you should check it out.
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c512h · 9 months
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Random thought I had
Thomas Astruc is like Hantengu from demon slayer and IOTA and Cyrus the great are Tanjiro and Genya
No I will not elaborate
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With all these “if Vivziepop wrote X” memes around rn, I thought of “if Thomas Astruc wrote Hazbin Hotel” considering the entire premise of the show is about redemption
Astruc would probably see Adam as the real hero of the show. You know that one song Adam sang about the rules being black and white? That's a pretty good way to describe Astruc's views on good and evil... just with a little more profanity.
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Look, there is not a problem if the antagonist freely admit that they are evil just because they like being evil IF they are competent, truly menacing and still charming. BUT... they way how they make Chloe who always said "Im Evulz" instead of seeing how "irredeemable" and "pure evil" she is... its more make Chloe a bad parody of the villain in saturday morning cartoon. Its just stupid and Chloe done nothing to make herself as competent antagonist after Miracle Queen.
Oh... those so-called "Coup de'etat" with a freaking robot ? That not even make her looks menacing or dangerous... that silly as hell and I can't any serious to see Chloe as Queen Mayor like how TA expecting to us to cementing Chloe "Pure Evulz" status
Look... there are MANY villains on Old-Saban Power Rangers that like to admit they like being evil. But instead of annoying, they still memorable and entertaining. Even the most annoying like Divatox (who admit that she is EMBODIMENT of evil) still has her own charm as is succeed to destroy Power Chamber, which leading Zordon captured.
If you want to write a villain who embraces being evil, you need to have them back up their claims and show why they are seen as pure evil. Make them a threat who is so dangerous and confident in their strength, they don't care how others see them. They gloat about their talents and revel in their victory over the heroes.
Chloe isn't a threat at all, so the whole "I'm evil, heart blacker than Don Cheadle!" bit doesn't work because it's all just hot air she can't back up on her own.
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https://www.tumblr.com/immaturityofthomasastruc/740447297183301632/the-show-really-said-oh-we-wanted-to-help-you?source=share
Don't forget the show having Marinette ENCOURAGE Chloe to continue being mean during Queen wasp then proceeding the complaint about how Chloe will never change
You can summarize the way the show discusses Chloe's betrayal and Marinette's treatment of her like this.
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Tbh I haven't watched the show in a while (i think I left off right around when Marinette became the guardian) but Chloe's treatment by the show's writing always made me so sad. She's like 14 she is very much capable of learning and growing as a person come on man... Also the whole "bitchy dumb blonde who never learns anything" trope is tired and more than a little misogynistic ngl
Whether you like Chloe or not, we should at least take issue with how often the show makes her out to be the ultimate evil over every other villain. Like, there's a reason why so many people think Astruc based her off a real person with how much focus she gets as a character.
Then again, considering this show's poor depiction of Chinese people, Japanese people, black people, English people, Jewish people, blind people, and deaf people, are we really surprised that this show would use negative stereotypes for blonde people too?
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Do you have any weird Miraculous Ladybug headcanons? (Mine is "XANA was a former Kwami who was experimented on and somehow killed by Project Carthage and got resurrected via Supercomputer as a Digital Spirit of Vengeance".)
This is kind of a weird one, so strap in.
You know how a common fanfic trope is for the characters to riff on the in-universe Ladybug and Cat Noir movie and call it terrible? What if the people from RiffTrax did a live show on the movie and invited Ladybug and Cat Noir to riff on it with them?
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Remember that one post when they asked you about Miraculous reaching Rwby levels of writing
You said and I quote “I guess if they continued to portray Adrien in the right even if he worked with Shadowmoth for some reason, or gave all the villains redemption arcs except Chloe, that may be enough for me to quit the show entirely.”
Now here we are, Gabriel has a statue, Felix is dating the girl he kidnapped after attempting genocide, Tomoe didn’t go to jail or the heroes ever found out about her working with Gabriel, Nathalie is in the pool party after murdering a presumed human being with the Thanos snap and Andre takes Zoe to leave Chloe with Audrey (this is somehow a good thing and Audrey is in the right despite her being to blame for Chloe’s personality has a whole)
The only villain left to be unredeemed or not going unpunished is Lila, so are you putting your trust on Lila or you’ll abandon ship before we can see how she’s dealt with?
Technically, Adrien never willingly worked with Gabriel, so there's that at least.
Granted, I'm not sure how I'll approach Season 6 yet.
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Well we all know at this point there's really nothing we could expect for the show to be better. But if by pure naivety and optimism and luck, should the writing get better somehow, what do you expect would happen in S6?
I guess in general, acknowledge the writing mistakes made over the last few years and work to correct them. Don't just use the new world as an excuse to do whatever you want. Have the characters learn from their mistakes and become better heroes.
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You know what? I’m genuinely upset that we don’t get more insight on Audrey as I want to know how she came to be. Did she start off downtrodden and work her way up to such a degree that it breed a sense of entitlement? Why did Andre (what’s his real name by the way?) love her like he did in the first place and how did he become a pushover? The Boi- Boigous- Whatever- Audrey’s family is so interesting that I want to see SO MUCH MORE of it in the future.
That's the thing about Audrey. Like every major female antagonist in this show, she has no redeeming qualities and only exists to make the audience feel bad for the male characters. Andre is sad, so we shouldn't care about why he married Audrey in the first place, just how sad he is.
That's how character development in this show works. I don't make the rules here, people.
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Honestly to this day I still have no idea why the writers thoughts reminding the audience that some of the things Chloe does is learned from Andre during confrontation while at the same time planing on "redeeming" him in the literal next episode was a good idea.
Chloé: Oh! Like Daddy does at city hall! He always says, "In case of a problem, always blame it on your predecessor!"
Which Speaking of really does make you wonder what else she learned from dear old dad *gestures at Kung fu*
Well that line was from an episode right before "Collusion", which retconned explained that Andre was never a corrupt politician, just someone who hated politics in the first place.
Seriously, how do these writers expect us to take their story seriously when they can't even get basic continuity right in the middle of a major story arc?
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Yeah... Instead of the theater play with silly white jumpsuit and mask, they could make OUAT project a flashback with silhouette projection with Felix explain Marinette about the story like you know... Like how Garnet tell the story about Origin of Crystal Gems and Roze Quartz to Off-Colors. Its more aesthetical than the theater play :/ (1)
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But that would't be vague and mysterious, anon! We all know how much this show loves being vague and mysterious with the Sentimonster stuff.
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I'm slowly(rip) attempting to write an OC insert fix-it fic for fun. and I decided Lila would be the "low-stakes" beginning villain that would only cause chaos for her entertainment and Gaberial would be the "real threat"
That makes a lot of sense for Lila to be the starter villain while Gabriel becomes the more serious threat. What's your OC like?
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