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Not a big post this time maybe a draft-post and pic/info dump before a continuation/long talk about it. But anyways:
We all should know Atsushi's motivations which stem from his past/hallucinations of the people who have impacted his life and haunt him somewhat. As his character got over it it changed from the Orphanage Headmaster to sometimes Akutagawa to Dazai. But most importantly I was focused on this hallucination (the guy in his mind which is technically created by himself so its kind of his own thoughts.)
"It all comes down to imagination. Every bit of it." "Your hypocritical goodwill, your childish imagination... You cannot understand anyone else. And this, you doom them."
And it was quite true, he has always been thinking of himself or "saving others" in order to keep his existence having meaning or relevance. His "saving others" is giving him not just a purpose or meaning but its also a mindset of "if I don't save them, then am I really allowed to live?" sounds...familiar. "If I don't defeat you, if I don't become stronger...I'll just go back to being something Dazai-san discarded." Yep. The 2 sides of the same coin. The Yin-Yang duo my favorite characters. Ahem, moving on. This was true because Atsushi as we have seen has been shown to be empathetic at times but mainly his drive when saving those people were selfish or stems from a place of if he doesn't then he is worthless. Now I know we all probably know this and how its similar to Ryuu's killing etc. etc. But Atsushi projecting his past self onto those he saves, also kind of shows how little he would come to understand them, and mainly just understanding they are in need of help like he was. The scene with Lucy when he threatened to let her and everyone else stay trapped in her room forever. The scene with Kyouka where he jumped out with her and the bomb. This selflessness has always been from a place of selfishness or at least thats what it seems like. His understanding of others...Well he seems to make quite a few assumptions mainly to Akutagawa, but we see how their views and respects for eachother change with time and learning.
The funniest part which I will still get to when I feel like writing a lot more...is the rashomon effect being used on Akutagawa as a character... Everyone seems to just have this "views" of him, thinking he has enough, that he is enough, that he IS strong, that he HAS status... when he thinks he doesnt have enough because of Dazai not acknowledging it and ever since Dazai said that Atsushi is better. People always seem to have this ideas about Akutagawa, these assumptions too, even with that scene with Margaret but I'll get there another day. Right now, Atsushi falls into those views of Akutagawa, even saying that he IS better than Akutagawa, assuming that he fights just to make others fear him. Its all "meaningless" (says the boy who fights an endless battle of self worth and saving others which essentially will end up the same as a life of killing others because both will make you fight endlessly to feel worthy of living - oh! Does that sound familiar? Remember Odasaku's words to Dazai... If they're both the same, at least saving people would make it a bit more beautiful isn't it?) Atsushi here is also deciding from himself that this may be meaningless, just deciding for someone else, truth or not, shows how little he bothers to understand others too. Akutagawa on the other hand could be on the assumptions side too though he is more envious on the fact Atsushi has all he has wanted and still dwells on the past. But after this interactions in the fight with Ivan and many after that... Akutagawa always tried understanding him more, and even during this scene before fighting Fritzgerald Akutagawa said he understood atsushi and it disgusted him. Akutagawa is a character of constant questions. Its always "Why me?" or "Why him?" or "Why do you fight?" always wondering and wanting to understand before he can decide. This was just a funny detail that contrasts their characters too in which Atsushi just hops to what he thinks and goes along with it if it saves people or himself. I really like them both. (Not as shipping, but in canon.)
#bungou stray dogs#bsd analysis#bsd spoilers#bungo stray dogs#bsd atsushi#bsd theories#bsd theory#atsushi nakajima#bsd manga#dazai osamu#bsd akutagawa ryuunosuke#analysis#sskk analysis#bsd understanding each other#bsd thoughts#random bsd ideas#2am thoughts
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dazai making up a whole language with fyodor that no one else can understand is amazing but imagine him using codes that, very objectively speaking, you could crack, it's just that no normal person would ever make the insane leaps in logic that it requires. except for someone familiar with dazai's weird thinking patterns, that is.
i just love the idea of dazai's unhinged antics being dialed up to an eleven when he was in the port mafia, and oda being the only one who simply wouldn't bat an eye at it but chuuya was the only one who would actually get it.
like imagine ango at the end of the jailbreak, his boss saying he should allow himself to sigh and lean back and maybe indulge himself, pat him on the shoulder, tell him what he pulled off reading heart rates wasn't easy and he should be proud for being able to keep up with such a plan
but ango i-drank-with-teenage-dazai-and-also-had-the-records-for-every-soukoku-mission sakaguchi can only remember the time dazai was like using greek sign language through his breathing patterns to communicate from a submarine from beneath the pacific ocean or something, and chuuya could not fathom how no one else could understand him.
and that was the day mori signed off on skk being exclusive partners because every subordinate in the room was crying tears of blood by the time chuuya finished explaining which blood pressure level was warning them about a bomb, which blinking sequence was him conveying the vault password and which series of inhales was just him calling mori a bitch.
(ango also pointedly did not want to think about how smug dazai had looked after the mission when mori confirmed skk would only be each others' partners for efficiency and to maintain everyone else's sanity
or about how when he called chuuya to tell him about dazai's prison break scheme he could only get like 3 out of 276 steps into the plan before chuuya rolled his eyes, said "got it" then hung up and pulled the whole thing off without a hitch.)
#listen soukoku having telepathy that they insist isn't telepathy it's just using common sense#while everyone else sobs in the corner#is a flavour of pm era skk I adore#like yes technically chuuya can in fact explain the play-by-play#process of understanding dazai's codes#it's just that no one else is going to immediately make the same far fetched connections#UGH the latest chapter of chuuya watching dazai flop and roll around on the ground like a fish while he brainstorms#not an ounce of curprise or confusion#like he's seen this a thousand times before#and even spotting his worries and dazai actually openly musing about his ideas and expressing emotions so vividly#they KNOW each other your honor#soukoku#dazai osamu#nakahara chuuya#the sigma show#bsd#my post
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THEY DID IT!!! THEY SAID THE THING!!


i can’t believe them they’re THE besties ever
#besties or worsties?? idc they love each other#their soulmatism >>>#this wan chapter healed my soul#if anyone doesn’t understand skk’s relationship i’m just gonna show them this chapter bc it perfectly encapsulates it#childhood bffskk#bsd#skk#soukoku#bsd wan#bsd wan chapter 171#bungou stray dogs#bsd dazai#dazai osamu#bsd chuuya#nakahara chuuya
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KOUYOU!!
What's something you find endearing/cute about Chuuya? ...maybe something he doesn't even realize about himself?
Chuuya: "That is simply not true!"
Kouyou: "Of course~."
@azapofinspiration
Chuuya: "I've only had her for a few days so I haven't told anyone yet."
Chuuya: "I'm sure she'll be excited to meet you!"
Kouyou: "I will certainly try and find time to come visit."
Kouyou: "It certainly would not be wise to even try to dethrone the leader."
Chuuya: "Huh? What is this about?"
Chuuya: "I don't wanna kiss ANYONE!"
Kouyou: "If you wish to stay in the fan club, I recommend you alter your behaviour."
Chuuya: "I have made.. a mistake."
Chuuya: "A terrible, TERRIBLE mistake."
#ask#update#azapofinspiration#anonymous#bsd chuuya#bsd kouyou#skk#soukoku#bungo stray dogs#(Woo have you guys seen the newest chapter [117]? So wild)#(I don't even know whats going to happen)#(But tbh I stopped understanding the moment Fyodor and Dazai started talking to each other)#(nothing is ever predictable in bsd)
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Concept:
Nikolai: Birds born in a cage don’t realise that they’re the prisoners.
Atsushi: Not even when you them let out.
Nikolai: Do tell.
Atsushi: I was raised in a cage and even now I’m out I’m still in one.
Nikolai: Because the cage is right here it’s your own skull.
Atsushi: Exactly you can’t escape yourself.
Nikolai: No, no you can’t. But to live as one’s most authentic self, that I believe is the way to be free.
Atsushi: What if you don’t know who that is?
Nikolai: You keep falling until you find what makes you fly.
Atsushi: What makes you fly?
Nikolai: Now what kind of magician would I be if I told you that?
#I like the idea of them understanding each other#even just a little#bsd nikolai#nikolai gogol#bsd atsushi#atsushi nakajima#bungou stray dogs#bsd
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Remembering that Sigma really dislikes Nikolai, while Nikolai clearly doesn't. This duo really is something
#sigma is so done with nikolai#but seriously how can he dislike nikolai more than i don't know fukuchi#nikolai is not exactly easy but damn sigma#nikolai clearly has more sense#how can you dislike nikolai when fyodor and fukuchi are in the DOA too#sigma i can't understand#i hope we'll see more of siglai#nikolai cares about sigma#DOA is so fucking chaotic#they hate each other but also...not?#bsd#bsd manga#bungo stray dogs#nikolai gogol#sigma#siglai
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Dazai tattles to Yosano when an injured ada member is hiding from her, I know he matches her freak. He can't hide it from me.
#this isnt a shipping post but read it that way if youd like#i just think they are a missed opportunity#who else could understand better then the person whos mentor was your mentor#they should enable each other is what im saying#freak for freak friendship#bsd#bungou stray dogs#bungo stray dogs#bsd dazai#bsd yosano
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came out as gay and then three years later came out as also aro. got the response "so you're not gay anymore?" and like. no i'm still sapphic. i'm both. it's a spectrum. it can happen. do you want me to hold your hand when i tell you i can think that men are hot too or is that too much for you
anyway dazai's definitely aro and bi too that motherfucker does NOT view love in the allo way i do not care what anyone says. look at him.
also ranpo too probably. and fyodor. literally just genius trio are all somewhere on the aro spectrum. probably the ace spectrum too let's be honest
#bsd#bungou stray dogs#bsd dazai#dazai osamu#aro dazai#bsd ranpo#ranpo edogawa#aro ranpo#bsd fyodor#fyodor dostoevsky#aro fyodor#i want people to understand that when i say fyozai i mean specifically aro spectrum fyozai that would kill for each other#do you get me?#do you see the vision?#oliveden speaks
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Maybe his is a controversial take but I firmly believe that Tanizaki could have taken on Odasaku. Why do I say that? Because Odasaku can only see what will visibly happen a few seconds into the future. Meaning that if Tanizaki goes invisible and waits for a long enough time, or if he creates a dozen illusions of danger, he just might be able to throw the future-sight off just a little....
#actually i dont really understand how odasakus ability is activated#does it get activated if he starts sensing danger automatically?#or does it activate a few seconds before hes actually killed so even if tanizaki went invisible itd still save him?#wow this was back in november what was going through my mind??#bsd#bsd tanizaki#bsd odasaku#spitting nonsense#look again i dont know if im right#but i guess i just enjoy pitting redheads against each other?
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big fan of 22!skk interpretations where they're not dating/not romantic
yeah tell me about this guy you knew inside and out but you aren't kids anymore and he's not the same guy anymore and you're not the same guy anymore and yeah you know his greatest aspirations and deepest fears and the morals he holds himself to that dictate his every decision, but you don't even know if his coffee order is the same. you're soukoku, you're expected to fall into the same roles as you were (because once you understand someone that deeply, you can't simply stop knowing them), and you can fill those roles. kinda. if you ignore the years of distance wedged between you two.
#you understand.#you've seen every part of them but you have no idea who they are anymore.#they've moved on but you haven't. how can you?#but if they're not going to say anything then neither are you.#(SPOILERS !!! neither of them have moved on. this is both of them about each other. lol.)#bsd#skk#soukoku#bungo stray dogs#yeah they're on speaking terms but are they really talking
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i really want to see a jouno and dazai friendship form. i mean they’re both ex criminals who joined a law-enforcement groups and found the joy in being a good person over time spent with new coworkers. they are similar and i need to see them talk again.
#tho jouno might just try to arrest dazai again. which would be a bit funny#but fr i feel like they coukd understand each other#if jouno realizes how young dazai was surely there’ll be an understanding#i assume jouno is also mid-late twenties so he was probably a criminal still at a much older age than dazai so he cannot say anything here#idk i’ve been thinking about them a lot. cool friendship dynamic maybe#i’ll make a better post ab it later maybe i need to go to bed goodnight#bsd#bungou stray dogs#bsd jouno#saigiku jouno#jouno#bsd dazai#osamu dazai#dazai#bsd thoughts
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Ok but Lucy and Akutagawa arguing over who likes Atsushi more when he’s not there <3
#it’s real I saw it#‘sushi walks in and they immediately go quiet#‘what we’re you arguing about’ ‘nothing’ [said while glaring at each ither]#eventually they come to an understanding. they both like ‘sushi just as much as the other.#then they both kiss him on the cheeks because he is precious <3#I’m sorry I just cannot stop making trio ships like. Kunikida chuuya Dazai is already so close to my heart#brain has also rotted with Fyodor Nikolai and Sigma#and my beloveds higuchi tachihara and gin#I’m in too deep#bungou stray dogs#bsd akutagawa#bsd atsushi#bsd lucy#shin soukoku#atsulucy
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Me emerging out of the fyozai tag, covered in blood: hey guys what’s up
#my little creatures#I’ve been on a kick lately#yk that line ango said at the end of dead apple how shibusawa Dazai and Fyodor are essentially aliens?#that they might be part of the world but are too smart to actually understand it and only they understand each other?#yeah I think abt that all the time#bsd#bungo stray dogs#bsd dazai#bsd fyodor#fyozai
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Lucy you are so right. SO right
#can we see more of her i'm begging#🥺🥺🥺#bsd#bsd 118 spoilers#i can't explain this properly but the fact atsushi and lucy can understand each other so well makes me go 🥺 they keep helping each other#even in these kind of roundabout unconventional ways#i don't like that the girls are all far from the action. i'd like to see them more#but these pages were so necessary. to me at least
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Akutagawa: No one ever lied straight to your face. And no one ever stabbed you in the back.
Atsushi: You might think I’m happy but I’m not gonna be okay.
Akutagawa: Everybody always gave you what you wanted. You never had to work it was always there.
Atsushi: You don’t know what it’s like.
Akutagawa: What it’s like.
Ataushi: To be hurt.
Akutagawa: To feel lost.
Atsushi: To be left out in the dark.
Akutagawa: To be kicked when your down.
Atsushi: To feel like you’ve been pushed around.
Akutagawa: To be on the edge of breaking down.
Atsushi: And no one’s there to save you.
Akutagawa: No you don’t know what it’s like.
Both: Welcome to my life.
#welcome to my life by simple plan#felt like something they’d scream at each other#and than realise shit you do understand#bsd#bungou stray dogs#bsd sskk#shin soukoku#bsd atsushi#bsd akutagawa
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THE PROMISE THAT WILL CHANGE THE COURSE OF HISTORY
#i'm screaming#the motherfucking promise#everything starts here#atsushi doesn't trust him yet but he wants to#he's trying to help him because deep down he believes in aku#atsushi felt the partnership and he's giving akutagawa a chance#this is beautiful#atsushi is a freaking genius#akutagawa is very loyal#or smitten#enemies my ass#there's an understanding here#they really shaped each other as people#they owe each other a personal growth#i love sskk so fucking much#no words#sskk#the sskk promise#sskk s3#bsd#bsd s3#atsushi nakajima#akutagawa ryuunosuke#shin soukoku
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