#bsd theories

[thatghostinyourbog]

THIS SCENE

THIS FUCKING SCENE

I always thought this scene SAID everything it needed to say

And I just never looked too deeply into it until now

Atsushi and his tiger are separate

They are portrayed as 2 separate beings throughout the entire show

And his ability might be like that

But if we're thinking of this from a storyteller point of view

Atsushi is the tiger

The tiger is Atsushi

In that scene atsushi admits how much he hates himself

And later Akutagawa reveals that Atsushi thinks he doesn't deserve to live unless he's helping others

But that doesn't change, atsushi just doesn't think he deserves to live. He is trying to earn to live but helping people is just keeping him alive

I think the tiger came out to help him (he helped himself) only because he finally thought he deserved to live, he was helping so many people and in that moment he realised this gives him a right to live

So why was that not the end of the season and his character development??

WELL I'M GLAD YOU ASKED

After all that happened SECONDS after the ENTIRE CITY was saved Atsushis main focus was still on making sure as many people lived as possible. After all that it still wasn't enough.

Then we move onto his quality bonding time with the little Victorian boy

I've already talked about Atsushi and Akus relationship so I won't say much more

But the interactions at the end of season 2

Aku not only figured out Atsushi was trying to make it so he deserved to live he also told him how stupid it was

Atsushi and Aku need to hear things like this

Natural behaviours and beliefs they have from their trauma are stupid, but they have so much weight to them neither of them can help but live by those things and sometimes it takes your rival to go up to you, stab you in the shoulders, and say you're stupid for you to think somewhat rationally

Aku tells Atsushi he doesn't have to live his life by other people's morals

He does actually have a choice

With Atsushis past at the orphanage hearing this must've felt like being hit by a truck

Atsushi realised he can have his own morals and he's free to help or kill whoever he pleases

Aku shows Atsushi that he is free

Now there isn't a set way to overcome trauma or improve your mental wellbeing

God everyone wishes there were but that's just life

And I think that's what bsd is

It's people trying to overcome their trauma

People trying to get better

People who seem to be worse at just living than others

Imo bsd is about getting better

Some characters won't

Some will

Some people won't get better

Some will

Bsd is so special because of that fact

It's the only show I've seen that is aimed towards people who simply find living more difficult than others

This is the show you watch when you feel completely alone

The characters are written so well and they're so different from eachother but they all are still suffering

It covers topics that the viewers probably thought they were entirely alone in even thinking about

(My thoughts were all over the place I can't figure out a better way to put all this together so just suffer through the edited thoughts of my brain)((Yea imagine how I feel I have to suffer through the completely unedited ones))

Atsushi views the tiger way higher than himself

The tiger represents the part of Atsushi who no matter what will help others

Atsushi himself does not believe he is such a good person

He doesnt believe he is as good as he is, he believes he can harm to people when in reality he would never be able to bring himself to hurt others

The tiger represents Atsushis natural good nature

And Atsushi himself represents all his doubts and worries and feelings of worthlessness

He thinks he is such a bad person he has separated the natural good things about himself and put them into his ability

Which is why in dead apple he seemed so lost and helpless

For half the movie he was following Aku and Kyouka around unsure of what to do

And once he faced his trauma and got his ability back he realised he doesn't HAVE to be such a good person

He doesn't have to be this perfect being who saves everyone and doesn't let anyone suffer

He learns he has to fight

He learns he has to kill some people and there's no way around it

That doesn't make him a bad person

It just makes him human

And this is what he realises at the end of the movie

It's also what he shows Dazai right at the start and the end with those little interactions they have

Atsushi never doubted Dazais humanity

They're all just human

And they're all trying to live to be better people

[sorcerersandskillusers]

Spoilers for Chapter 114.5

This confirms that Dazai is literally the only person who can kill Fyodor since he would nullify the possession. Which makes the "You can't kill me line" way funnier because Fyodor was really thinking

"please for the love of god do not be the one to kill me"

[symphonyofsilence]

We don't know much about Dazai's life before Mori found him (just that the sheep had offered Dazai to join them and he declined)

But in "Dazai, Chuuya, age fifteen" there might be some clues:

He talks as if he previously hasn't been a part of the underground society. Like he's lived in the surface world.

His mannerism in general, even as a 15 years old is so refined. And the manner of his speech is different from the 15 y/o kids who are from the underground society like Chuuya and Shirase.

And the characters are heavily inspired by the real life authors that they're named after. Dazai already has so many things in common with the real Dazai Osamu. And the real Dazai Osamu was from a noble family.

So I think it's likely that Dazai was from an upper class family and ran away.

And... I think it's not completely unlikely that he might have changed his name.

in BSD, when a character is inspired by and named after an author who has a pen name, their real names are addressed. Like Mori Ougai being called Rintarou by Elise, or Fukuchi Ouchi being called Gen'ichiro by Fukuzawa or Dazai calling Oda Sasunosuke Odasaku, or 'Nakahara' being revealed to be the last name of the doctor who worked on the Arahabaki project and thus being Chuuya's "father" and so his last name being Chuuya's last name, while it's revealed that Chuuya might have an actual family out there, we don't know much about them but his father has the same occupation as the real Nakahara Chuuya's father; he's a retired army doctor who has established his own clinic. And the real Nakahara Chuuya was at first 'Kashimura Chuuya' before his father was adopted by his mother's family shortly after Chuuya's birth and his name was changed to Nakahara. Now maybe BSD's Nakahara Chuuya's real father's last name is Kashimura and thus before the age of 7 and merging with Arahabaki, Nakahara Chuuya might have been Kashimura Chuuya.

What I was getting at was that... maybe BSD's Dazai Osamu's real name is Tsushima Shūji (like his namesake, the real author) but he changed it after he ran away from his rich family and joined the underground. (But this theory might not work because Ranpo's namesake, the real author used a pen name too but Ranpo Edogawa seems to be the real name of BSD's Ranpo.)

[featherstorm2004]

Ok but the implication that Fyodor inherits the personality traits of the people who kill him is extremely messed up when you think about it. And considering how old he is it's very likely his original personality has been completely taken over by this point, honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Fyodor doesn't actually have a grand master plan but is instead working with a hodgepodge of half baked ideas culminated by his past vessels over the centuries.

Especially when you consider that these new desirers seem to effect him strongly, with him not giving two shits about Aya until he took over Bram and now suddenly he's yandere levels obsessed with her.

[russ14n-r0ul3tt3]

*pulls heart shaped lollipop out of my mouth and points it at you* when akutagawa came back in the last few chapters, he didn't remember anything like who atsushi was. so, if kenji, tanizaki, kunikida, and fukuzawa are alive, what if they don't remember anything either?

[justcallmesakira]

I love how the bsd fandom was celebrating chuuyas birthday being happy, joyful, a bit of angsty JUST yesterday and then fyodor just comes to ruin the party like that one auntie that no one of the family likes.

[loulits]

There’s something so fascinating about the dynamic between Dazai and Ranpo that rarely gets the attention it deserves.

Their relationship isn’t built on the same kind of camaraderie we see with Dazai and Chuuya or Ranpo and Fukuzawa. Instead, it exists in this weird, nebulous space of mutual brilliance, calculated detachment, and an unspoken understanding that neither of them really need to try around the other.

Both of them are geniuses, but in very different ways. Ranpo’s intelligence is so deeply ingrained in his identity that he doesn’t even consider it a “gift”—it’s just who he is. His self-confidence is absolute, bordering on arrogance, because he knows he’s the smartest person in the room. He doesn’t second-guess himself because, in his eyes, there’s simply no reason to.

Dazai, on the other hand, is an entirely different breed of genius. His intelligence is adaptive, shaped by his time in the Mafia, honed for manipulation, survival, and deception. He’s brilliant, yes, but he’s also deeply aware of his own mind—sometimes to the point where he actively tries to outmaneuver himself. Where Ranpo is unwavering in his certainty, Dazai constantly tests and plays with possibilities, viewing life as a game where he’s always five steps ahead.

That’s where their dynamic gets interesting. 🤨 👇🏽

1. They Don’t Need to Prove Themselves to Each Other

Dazai is someone who loves testing people. He provokes them, plays mind games, and watches their reactions for fun. He enjoys unraveling people, poking at their insecurities, seeing what makes them tick. And yet, with Ranpo? There’s none of that. Why? Because Ranpo sees through him. Where most people get caught up in Dazai’s theatrics, Ranpo just doesn’t care. He can see the games Dazai plays, but they don’t interest him because, in his mind, he’s already won before the game even began. This puts them in a strange but mutual space of respect—Dazai doesn’t bother trying to manipulate Ranpo, and Ranpo doesn’t feel the need to prove that he’s smarter. It’s one of the rare relationships where Dazai can just exist without putting on an act.

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2. Dazai as the Observer, Ranpo as the Unshakable Constant

Dazai is constantly watching. It’s in his nature. He studies people, picks them apart, and predicts their next moves before they even think to make them. Ranpo? Ranpo doesn’t need to do any of that. He simply knows. This makes for an interesting contrast because, while Dazai is always looking for the angle, Ranpo just goes about his life, unbothered. He isn’t someone that Dazai needs to figure out, and that in itself is probably a little unsettling for Dazai—Ranpo is just Ranpo. There’s no hidden agenda, no underlying deception, just unshakable confidence in his own abilities. At the same time, I think Ranpo finds Dazai mildly interesting in a way he doesn’t find most people. Not because Dazai is a challenge—Ranpo knows he can see through him—but because Dazai operates so differently from him. He’s amused by Dazai’s schemes, the way he plays with people, but he doesn’t feel the need to engage. It’s almost like watching a child play with a puzzle you solved years ago.

3. A Quiet Understanding

Ranpo and Dazai don’t need to be close. They don’t need dramatic moments of bonding or grand declarations of friendship. Their relationship is more of a quiet, mutual acknowledgment—one genius recognising another, but with no need to test the limits. They don’t challenge each other. They don’t need to. And maybe that’s why their dynamic is so compelling. They just understand.

[pe4rl-diver]

i don’t think amenogozen is truly killing people

remember how teruko melted and all that was left was her hd uniform?

the hunting dogs took her in, gave her a home, gave her a real purpose. that uniform represents who she is.

but when kunikida melted, his clothes went with him, and what was left behind instead?

his notebook. his ideals. his ideals represent who he is.

the thing that represents who they are is left behind.

i know that doesn’t really explain anything, but it’s at least enough for me to cause some doubt

[with-my-calamitous-love]

i see so many chuuya fics where he’s a player/a womanizer. and while those are all fun and beautifully written, i just have this gut feeling that chuuya is loyal as hell.

this is the guy that jumped off a helicopter and fought a literal dragon for a man he claims he doesn’t even like. imagine what he’d do for someone he loves, someone he has yet to lose and is terrified of losing.

all he wants to do is love you. he’s protective, but not possessive by any means. his time in the mafia has made him so aware of everything that could possibly harm you. even if its a 5 minute walk back to your place, he’ll drive you. if you’re out at a bar, he’ll hold your drink and/or keep an eye on all the other guys around you. he’s always practicing the sidewalk rule, always giving you his coat, and always reminding you that he would do anything and everything for you.

he knows that you’re a point of interest for enemy organizations. that because your his s/o, you’re a target for ransom or worse as a means to get back at him. and because of that, he’s constantly worrying. if even something feels off, he’ll call you, if not rushing to be by your side. you have to remind him that you aren’t made of glass.

oh, and god forbid you are actually taken captive. the world will see a side of him that he luckily keeps hidden.

[kellelkallel]

I think people forget that Dazai controlling his heart is not just a one-off thing. Like he totally does it all the time.

The whole of the Prison Arc? That poison would've killed him way slower than Dostoyevsky by virtue of him making his heart incredibly slow, so it spreads slower. That's why he can afford to take his time with shit.

When he gets shot/stabbed multiple times? He can slow that shit down and lose less blood. He's so smart I love my little freak boy

[literatureloverx]

Hii! I'm new here, but I'll just get to the point. I want to know your opinion about something

I've heard a lot of people saying that Dazai would cheat on his partner. I know it's not true, but I just wanted to know your opinion about it

Have a nice day!

I do like people who just “get to the point”. ♥️ First of all, welcome to the family! Second, I don’t think so at all.

Dazai is not a bad person. The only scenario where I could see him being unfaithful is if he were afraid of emotional intimacy (which I think he would be) and tried to push his darling away. Though, even then, I am not sure he would actually go through with it.

Given his self-sabotaging and self-destructive tendencies, it is possible, but whether he would genuinely cheat or merely create the illusion of it is open to interpretation. His desire to distance himself from his darling would likely stem from his idealised view of them, believing he doesn’t deserve them because he sees himself as tainted.

However, in my opinion, Dazai genuinely wants to improve because he is exhausted by the constant emptiness he feels. Let’s say he has a darling who fills that void inside him—would he truly want to let them go? I believe he would only push them away under specific conditions, such as self-sacrifice, driven by the need to protect them from the inevitable consequences of being involved with him—both because of his dangerous life and his internal struggles.

That being said, considering how Dazai thrives on manipulation and control as well, even if he were to push someone away, it might not be purely self-sacrificial. It could also be a subtle test, a way to see how much they are willing to fight for him. (I somehow love how hypocritical he can be. The poor man is so stuck—please, someone shake him and tell him, “We can do this together.” 🥺 He is so lonely.)

Though, I think this is an extreme scenario, one where he is 100% invested in someone, particularly romantically.

I hope this answers your question. Have a nice day as well! ♥️

[lazyflower48]

So I just saw something really interesting. We know that the next episode is titled "Twilight Goodbye"

Well, in Nakahara Chuuya's "Poems of the Goat" there are two poems called "The Terrible Twilight" and "The Twilight of This Spring Day"

Another thing to note is that Dazai Osamu's very last work was called "Goodbye" which was left unfinished because of his death

One thing that's also on my mind is what Kisho Taniyama (Chuuya's VA) said in an interview regarding s5:

"If you watch this fifth season all the way to the end, i think you will be able to feel more of the depth of the relationship that Dazai and Chuuya have established."

Emphasis on "all the way to the end"

I'm not too sure as to what to make of this honestly cause my mind is a mess after this episode

[sorcerersandskillusers]

*SPOILER WARNING CHAPTER 112*

Something is really off about Fyodor's death in the manga

Having just read the latest chapter, I noticed something really weird with Fyodor death scene. It all comes down to Dazai's reaction.

Before Fyodor "death" we see Dazai being all smug and gloating about what Fyodor missed, very typical of his character in general.

But then his mood suddenly shifts completely

He suddenly becomes very sombre, no triumph or gloating, this could be him regretting having to kill Fyodor, but the next few panels make me think there's more too it then that.

Look at Dazai's expression here, the way he seems so suspicious of the hand

I don't think we've ever seen Dazai's eyes like this, they are blank white, it's almost like his mafia eyes but colour inverted. This is not the face of someone who just beat their greatest enemy, or someone mourning their loss, It looks like Dazai is unsatisfied, I can't quite describe it, but there is something more in those eyes.

After Fyodors death Dazai is uncharacteristically quiet and Chuuya even points it out, again, nothing about this says "we won!" it feels like we still lost somehow.

So why would Dazai not want Fyodor dead? While it could be because he was sad to lose the only person who thought like him, while that's possible, I want to explore another idea.

Death did not stop Fyodor.

Dazai could have killed Fyodor when he had him cornered in the cafe if he wanted to, or have someone else kill him so he doesn't break his promise to Oda.

But he didn't, he let Ango arrest him instead, even though Dazai knew what a threat he was, why?

It all comes down to this.

The only way Dazai can counter Dostoyevsky is when he's right there in front of him. So now he's dead, Dazai can't read his actions any more. It's like he's fighting a ghost, all the plans Fyodor will have laid in case he died will be 10x harder to uncover and stop since it's much harder to fight an invisible enemy.

Remember that Dazai did not order the piolet to kill Fyodor, Bram did, and Dazai admitted to not having any say in that deal

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I don't have any final point here, I just wanted to vent these thoughts. Does Fyodor quoting jesus on the cross mean he's going to come back in three days? What's going on with Sigma? I have way more questions than answers and it's driving me nuts

[nori-draws-sometimes]

This audio really reminded me of Dazai. I feel like after joining the ADA, he just disappears for chunks of time as a sort of reset in order to go back to being loud and dramatic at the agency.

(This vid was also loosely supposed to take place on or around the anniversary of oda's death.)

[featherstorm2004]

So, we've finally found out what role Atsushi plays with the book and we now know he is the book mark. Which suggests there are other characters who are part of the book, and I've seen people speculate on what Dazai might be because well...he's Dazai.

But I offer you this what if Akutagawa is also part of the book.

That could explain why he and Atsushi are able to create such a strong singularity and it could also explain why in beast Dazai chose him and Atsushi to be the only people who'd know the truth of their world. So, I argue that Akutagawa is the pen of the book, the one who takes an active role in shaping the story, after all Atsushi has always been an extremely passive protagonist only reacting to things that happen to him in the story, so it would make sense that he'd be the bookmark.

However, Akutagawa has always been an active protagonist constantly seeking out his own story, determined to grasp it with his own hands so realistically that would make him the pen as he actively tries to shape the world around him.

And Dazai? why not have him be the author the person who wields both the pen and bookmark.