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#but i dont feel like its a reciprocal relationship. and it doesnt have to be but like. sad that i feel like i couldve had one w my academic
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they’re definitely going to bring up the huntlow ship by the end of the show because hunter is SIMPING hard but i really want them to do something interesting with it. i don’t want them to just get together with no drama aimed at each other. so what i propose is: a deconstruction of the last-minute love confession trope.
hunter spends the second or even third episode blushing after willow. but willow doesn’t flirt or blush at him, just encourages and hangs out with him like she would her other friends. and at the end of the second or the middle of the third episode, the gang is gearing up for a huge battle with belos, the collector, or any other villains they’ll have to confront. everyone knows it’s dangerous, so there’s a lot of sweet moments between friends and family where they make peace with some of their conflicts and reinforce how much they care about each other. lumity and raeda both get an “i love you” or a kiss.
hunter pulls willow aside and confesses his feelings. he says he has a crush on her and asks if after they defeat the villains, they could go on a date. maybe he gets out a plant glyph and makes a bouquet. it’s very cute and reminiscent of a lot of love confessions in movies and tv that characters do right before a battle.
but willow FREEZES. she’s only thought of hunter as a friend up to this point, and hunter dropping this bombshell during the most stressful day of her life really isn’t helping her decide how to answer him. she has to recontextualize all of their interactions up to this point. and whether she eventually decides to date him, she can’t make up her mind at that moment, because she’s never even considered dating hunter before.
because the “last minute love confession” trope only works out well if the two characters have been pining and basically knows the other’s feelings. it’s a good way to clear up the air in that situation before a dangerous fight where they might not get a chance after. but if only one side has/is aware of their romantic feelings, the last minute love confession becomes solely a way for the person confessing to get it off their chest. it doesn’t matter if the person being confessed to wants to know about these feelings or reciprocates, the confession is sprung on them without prior warning, and now they have to think about that on top of the dangerous battle.
so before willow can give hunter an answer about that date, everyone has to get in position for the fight. and during the fight, willow is DISTRACTED. she knows she needs to focus on the fight, but she can’t help but think about hunter’s confession from a few minutes before, regardless of whether she reciprocates. and at one point, willow gets a clear shot to take out the villain or rescue one of their friends or whatever the goal of the battle is, but she MISSES.
if hunter had confessed a few hours or days earlier, giving willow time to come to terms with it before the battle, or if he had waited until after the battle to confess, it would have been fine. but he tells her at the WORST possible time, so willow has something else on her mind during one of the most important battle of her life. and because of that, everything goes very, very wrong.
#toh#the owl house#shut up pandora#hunter toh#hunter noceda#willow park#this isn't to say willow would blame hunter for distracting her#shes too nice her first instinct is to spiral into the 'im a horrible incompetent leader and i shouldnt do anything ever' mentality#but regardless of if she likes him or not love confessions are distracting! they make you blank out for a bit!#it ends up being all you can think about for the next hour at least be it out of flattery or happiness of discomfort!#and ive always disliked the trope where someone confesses to their love interest right before or during a battle like#now? your love interest is going to get hit by an arrow because youve distracted them#and the worst ones are the ones where they confess by kissing the love interest without prior warning#sometimes its unclear if the love interest is even interested and i know its for drama! but could you do that at literally ANY other time#it just feels cruel to the love interest you know#like the person confessing is getting stuff off their chest but they have no regard for how the love interest is feeling#if they reciprocate theyll have to go into a deadly battle knowing if they die they wont be able to continue a relationship they really want#and if they dont reciprocate it puts the burden on the love interest to turn them down and go into the battle being emotional about it#that may just be me though#anyway after that it doesnt really matter if the huntlow ship actually gets together#again i still dont ship it but if they do something interesting with it like this then it has a place in the story#but to reiterate it doesnt matter if willow has feelings for hunter in this scenario just the confession would be enough to distract her#and to those of you compiling screenshots where they stand next to each other#or where willow smiles fondly at gus and hunters shenanigans and say its only because shes in love with hunter#and basically trying to TJLC yourselves into believing willow is madly in love with hunter at this point of the story#she...really isnt......#at least not yet#does she even seek him out to hang out when hes not with gus#does HUNTER even seek her out to hang out when SHES not with gus#lowhunt
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wutaijiemei · 11 months
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yet another night sitting around in taiwan and thinking about how the only reason im here is bc my chinese prof sent me more emails than the latino studies dept and i love the relationship i have w her and i love what i do and speaking the most commonly spoken language in the world is not an unuseful skill to possess but i think all the time about how not that undergrad academics are about what you are contributing insert cynical description of the social construct of academia but it really is sad when i think abt how i kind of just casually missed the opportunity to feel like i was doing smth genuinely purposeful w my time in higher ed n i just dont think grad school is in my future w the basic uphill Cs get degrees battle of my even staying in school due to my problems and issues not to mention the um $ . but anyways gn
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mkscatgirl · 1 year
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*DEEP SIGH* man...............................................
#i ummmmmmmm ummmmmmmm uuuhhhhhh mmmmmmm uhhhh yeah :)#i really like this guy but ummmm hmmmm#i feel really guilty about it because well okay so we have a really comfortable and close relationship#which is like normal and good right? yeah right. BUT for him its just a close friendship with someone you get along with really well#which is all fine and dandy and good#but for me its like. the same. but also. teehee. 😋😊. i want him. yknow?#so i feel like my actions and joy from the friendship are tainted by my further desires even if like my actions are 100% reciprocated in#in kind**#like everything i do he does too so like. its not like im doing anything bad. but it feels like it should be bad.#also he was in a relationship until 3 days ago#so like. i dont want to be too much. i wouldnt want to regardless of the relationship actually but i digress#i think actually whats going in is we have a level of intimacy which is completely normal for good friends who see each other all day every#everyday but im not used to that anymore because its been god like 5 years since highschool and thus wouldve seen my bestie that much and#had that level of intimacy#but also like that doesnt change the fact that i DO want him like that much remains true and outside of our relationship#but i feel guilty being afforded this level of intimacy when *I* am gaining a tainted version of the joy#and i say tainted not in a ewwwww relationships are evil kind of way but in a not quite ulterior motive kind of way because i do NOT have#further goals with my actions i act to maintain the status quo of our relationship but i DO get more than what is seen on the surface i#suppose?????#its like im embezzling romantic joy from a purely non romantic intimate friendship if that makes ANY sense#and thats were my guilt comes from because im like TEEHEE what if this but more#but like#its NOT bad and i SHOULDNT be guilty and i KNOW this#in fact i think i actually act LESS than what is expected of me from him because im afraid of overstepping my bounds#but WHATEVER none of this matters because he doesnt want me anyways lol#but im so incredibly happy with the way our relationship is he is SUCH a good friend its crazy#but also i want to [redacted]#ive said enough i dont need to be cringe on top of showing my soul
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hannieehaee · 4 months
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Svt as tropes
seventeen as tropes
content: crushes, fluff, some of these are idol!aus (as in the member is an idol, not reader), etc.
wc: 884
a/n: these are just tropes that come to mind when i think of each member. i tried to keep it varied and original <3
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seungcheol -
enemies to lovers - he seems like he can be maybe a lil bit cocky at times (with reason, i mean have you seen him ..), so i think itd be possible to start off the wrong foot with him. he's also pretty stubborn, so pair with him another stubborn individual and you have a dragged out love story that begins with rivals and ends with a very fiery relationship.
jeonghan -
coworkers to lovers - jeonghan seems like an extremely charming and interesting guy who doesnt even have to try. im 100% sure people who work around him fall for him every single day. i think he'd be very entertained by the idea of crushing on a staff member/coworker. it would make him look forward to work and make him always seek you out while on the job.
joshua -
childhood friends to lovers - he seems the type that would keep a special someone in his heart for a very long time, even if it was just as friends. leaving his home country so young, the distance would make him realize his feelings and end up with that one special person from back home.
jun -
arranged marriage - okay not exactly arranged marriage but more so him being with someone his parents introduce him to! he seems to be a huge family oriented guy, so i see him ending up with someone his parents may have thought would be perfect for him. it'd start off as him giving it a chance to please his parents but ending up actually falling for this person.
soonyoung -
sunshine vs. grump - this concept isnt necessarily 100% black and white to me. but still i think maybe he would fall for someone who has a very contrasting personality his very positive and over the top demeanor. he'd enjoy the back and forth in which he'd act ridiculously to get his s/o to react while they pretended to be annoyed by him.
wonwoo -
long distance - idk if this is a trope ?? but i think wonwoo's love absolutely transcends any and every obstacle imaginable. i think he would be the definition of distance makes the heart grow fonder. he would cherish every single moment he got to be with you, constantly yearning for you any second he was away from you.
jihoon -
opposites attract - as someone who seems to keep to himself a lot and is a bit of a homebody, i think he would easily fall for someone who got him out of his comfort zone and got him to discover parts of himself he didnt know about before. would adore an s/o who was louder in nature and livelier, feeling some sort of nurturing sense in him come out whenever he was around them.
seokmin -
friends to lovers - its a classic for a reason! i cant understand how people dont constantly fall for seokmin but im 100% sure that if he had a crush on a friend of his, he would easily be able to charm them enough for them to reciprocate the crush. there would be a period of time of that cute back and forth in which he tried to 'court' them, ending up together in the end.
mingyu -
chance encounter - watching nana tour ive loved seeing how insanely outgoing and likable by strangers he is so i think that he would be the type to incidentally meet a person and subsequently fall for them. however, mingyu is a hopeless romantic so he wouldnt allow for this to be his one and only meeting. he would go to hell and back to reconnect.
minghao -
language barrier - ok ik this isnt actually a trope but i really do see minghao taking interest in a person who doesnt speak his language. i think that if a foreigner (in this case someone who does not speak korean or chinese) caught his attention, he would not be deterred by the language barrier and still seek them out. he would maybe even be more intrigued by the concept of communicating despite the barrier.
seungkwan -
found family - seungkwan is one of the sweetest and most likable people alive. im sure there's tons of people out there who consider him part of their found family. i think he'd be the type to become super close with that special someone (to the point of considering them as precious as his own family) only to eventually fall for them (and have them fall right back bc i mean its boo so how would you not fall for him!).
vernon -
class difference - i really see him falling for someone who's not in the industry. just someone who is an average person with an average life. this would obviously come with its complications, but i think he would enjoy the contrast between your lives and would live a regular life through your own.
chan -
mutual pining - contrary to popular opinion, i believe chan has insane rizz. however! i think he would be the type to have negative rizz when he has a crush on someone. he's still impossible to not fall for though, so this would lead to him and his future s/o to pine for each other for years, not realizing that their friendship could be more if one of then would just step up and confess.
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menuliso · 8 months
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i actually think i have some sort of brain damage from chapter 403 because now ive taken my bkdk obsession to a whole new degree. like, i was insane before, but now i feel as if i should be genuinely put into an asylum.
ive gone through a full on awakening.
before this chapter i refused to believe that bkdk would become canon/hinted bc like its wishful thinking. but now? ive fallen into the fucking deep end. i am of full belief that bkdk will become canon or at least be hinted bc horikoshi is cooking something and im so glad im not the only one to see it.
there is no way that man doesnt know what hes doing. bkdks entire arc has been fucking perfect and this man just keeps BUILDING UP. like all this talk about feelings, and how bkdk have never really spoken about them to eachother before??? this is like, building up to a fucking love confession i swear, because katsuki DIED for izuku, and izuku cant control his heart when it comes to katsuki, and like… what other explaination is there? atp i consider it canon that theyre in love with each other.
and the other most likely ship that i thought was gonna be canon, izuocha, just is not feasible. its not like i dislike the ship, no hate to it at all, but making it canon would be so fucking harmful to izuku and ochakos characters and we dont talk about that enough. it would a dissapointing, flat conclusion with barely any build up and itd be the bland, predictable formula. like, ochako has already basically wrapped up her thing with izuku with that entire fight with toga. shes admitted herself that her crush on izuku was more admiration than anything of massive substance. and dont even get me started on izuku. barring some fluster and embarrassed blushing in the early seasons, this boy has NOT reciprocated AT ALL. its actually ridiculous. izuku has been focused on like, two things only: hero work, and kacchan. izuku does not show ANY romantic feeling to ochako whatsoever.
surely, surely if horikoshi were to make this canon, he’d put in a little more effort? add some more chemistry, more development, more than just ‘boy meets girl. blush and get shy. little crush. get married. the end’?
that is bad storytelling, and horikoshi is anything but a bad storyteller. this guy adds foreshadowing YEARS before the chapter. horikoshi is INSANE when it comes to character + relationship + plot development. if horikoshi throws all that out the way, and makes izuocha canon, id be extremely, extremely disappointed. not because i hate the ship, but because itd be out of nowhere, disregard practically ALL development, and be nauseatingly dissatisfying.
talking of which, for the entire day ive been thinking about the foreshadowing for bkdk.
there. is. so. fucking. much. it feels like everytime i read like a new section of the manga, their relationship is described in the most frutti tutti rainbow gay way. im sorry, shigafo, did you just say that katsuki is closer to izuku than ANYONE else? excuse me, aizawa, did you just describe them as pair, a pair that the class revolves around? dont even mention the shit that izuku and katsuki say referring to each other. i cant even choose one to add in here, but every out of context bkdk quote has like these SEVERE more-than-platonic undertones, especially when you consider their past and their development. i feel like horikoshi has been doing some fucking insane foreshadowing for something MORE.
yk, i keep on thinking about how in the double spread in 403, the words ‘the beginning’ are displayed right over bkdk, as they find each other. call me delusional, but that has to be on purpose. i also keep on thinking about izukus green and orange gloves in so many official arts, and the light in both their eyes when they see each other, and the way theyre both always observing the other, never speaking about how they feel directly.
their relationship is just so, so……. and i feel like the only next step is for them to talk. just. fucking. talk. its been hinted at for so long, and horikoshi is doing SOMETHING.
them simply being together would be the most satisfying, developed, beautiful ending.
if they arent canon, i will die. ill say it now. bkdk canon. there is too much proof. as a writer, i know for a fact that i write everything for a REASON. why would horikoshi write this, if he wasn’t going to do anything with it?
bkdk will be canon. i dont care if i sound insane, or get proved entirely wrong. i now fully believe that the last page of the manga will be bkdk at a theme park eating crepes.
thank you chapter 403 for driving me off the rails.
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borzoilover69 · 27 days
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Since a lot of being aromantic is STILL stigmatised, heres a little post about aromantic quirks to raise awareness!!
Being aromantic faces a lot of stigma due to it being viewed as “romantic repulsed” or incapable of romantic love. This is wrong. While some may be repulsed by romance on a whole, many dont. They may feel little to no romantic feelings. They may have spikes. What matters is being aromantic is a SPECTRUM.
Aromantics can still have crushes. They can still dream about being in a romantic relationship. They can enjoy doing romantic things like going on dates, or being affectionate. However (coming from an aromantic) they may struggle with forming a romantic attachment to someone or even considering someone in a romantic state.
Their love can fizzle out quickly after entering a relationship and they can feel out of place for it or otherwise grow disinterested the closer they get. While they may dream about the IDEA of being in a romantic relationship, however they may abhor or be generally disgusted at the idea of being committed to an actual person! Or heck they might even like the idea and then dislike all the traditionally ROMANTIC actions (like going out together, picnics, gifts, etc) of it and treat it more like a closer friendship than a traditional romance.
They can like doing romantic things but be uncomfortable with them being tied to a committed traditional relationship and strictly romantic context! What matters is you can be any of the above and still somewhat register on the spectrum.
Common aromantic experiences are:
Having a crush on someone but feeling no need for them to return it in kind / losing interest when they start reciprocating
Liking the idea of being in a romantic relationship, but feeling little to no interest when people approach you with it.
Of course this doesnt mean aromantics can be COMPLETELY adverse to a relationship. Aromantics can still be in romantic relationships for other reasons. An extremely close friendship for example. As someone whos been in relationships with other aromantics its one of the incredibly rare times i feel some semblance of affection (usually after they confess; i find i never even entertain the thought of romantic ties beforehand but thats my experience).
And finally sexual and romantic attraction is different. You can experience sexual attraction without necessarily feeling romantic, or vice versa, or even barely any at all.
If you think youre aromantic you can also take this quiz.. it might help? Anyways thats all.
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tannieastrology · 2 years
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Astrology Observations #2
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After a long hiatus i'm back with a few observations I've made in the time I was gone. Hope you like it:)
🥀 Neptune in the 5th house may frequently get into a unhealthy one sided love if they don't learn to stop ignoring the red flags in the person their interested in. The presence of Neptune in this house makes you delusional towards your interest and blurs the line between love and obsession. It's the fact that yall chase after people who are obviously not good for you in the first place. Remember guys, reciprocation is very important in love and if you're not their number 1 then they shouldnt be yours either. My advice would be to stop making scenarios in your head and to take them for what they show you NOT what they could be. Learn to assert your boundries and stop romanticizing people who do the bare minimum you deserve better.
🥀 Pisces Venus and getting scammed by their own love interests smh. People who have this placement need to be careful with who they get involved with. My cousin had this placement and she was dating this guy from Australia who was trying to come to America. They were in a relationship for 5 years and when they got a court marriage he got the green card and ran away. So basically he used her for her own benefit and when he got what he wanted he left. Most men she got with ended up treating her so bad but they seemed pretty nice at first. That's what Neptune does. Wherever it's in your chart could be where you are taken advantage of and easily decieved so be extra cautious.
🥀 Mars in the 12th house have terrible sleeping schedules. They're the type to stay up during night and sleep during the day and then take their anger out on everyone because they're sleep deprived. This is me telling you right now to fix your sleeping schedule and even though you might find more peace at night humans are not nocturnal. Who knows y'all not getting the right amount of sleep could be the reason why you feel so depressed.
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🥀 Capricorn moons when are you gonna stop running away from your emotions. Life would be so much easier if you just learned to deal with your trauma and forget about the expectations that your loved ones have for you. I know life is unfair to you and your parents dont give you the love you deserve, but that doesnt mean you dont deserve to be happy. It's hard for people to love you if you push them away. Having a crush on someone with this placement, if underdeveloped, is not fun especially if he's a guy because they dont understand their emotions and dont put effort to understand them either. However, these are some of the most loyal, hardworking, mature people I have ever known when developed. They'll make you feel safe and loved in their arms if the truly love and care for you. They're good people but just have a wounded innerchild, that's it. Deep down I know y'all are softies so stop hiding it. Not everyone is out to get you I promise . Also please consider therapy.
🥀 Lilith in Scorpio women give maneater energy for some reason. Its hard to explain but they have this allure to them that people cant resist. Ex- Beyonce, Anne Hathaway, Taylor Swift, Briggete Bardot, Vanessa Paradis.
🥀 Venus square ascendant people I swear your beautiful stop thinking you're ugly. Sometimes you guys dont see your own beauty and the effect you have on people. You have the ability to turn heads when you walk into a room, but you dont see that because of the unbelievably high standards you've set for yourself. You're beautiful but the way you percieve what beauty is, doesnt align with your appearance or reality. Maybe it couldve been because people always commented on your appearence growing up or you feel pressured by society. Remember that beauty is the eye of the beholder. Just because you think your ugly doesnt mean that you actually are, youre just not your own type.
🥀 Mars square Uranus combined with Venus/Moon to Pluto is the epitome of enemies to lovers in synastry. Its like you hate them so much but have this unbelievable urge to slam them against the wall and kiss them. That person will annoy the shit out of you but the attraction is always underlying there and it gets hard to ignore. If you wanna a healthy relationship though, I would steer clear from this synastry because its toxic.
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🥀 Lilith in the 2nd house/Taurus are what I would imagine a material girl to be. They love luxury things and will find a way to get what they want if they set their eye on something. Also they might get a certain job or enter a career just because it pays well. They're pretty hedonistic in general and love sex or anything Taurus/Venus related. Alot of the women here have nicely shaped bodies and lips even if theyre on the skinnier side. However, they could have eating disorders and body dysmorphia.
🥀 Leo Venus are so cute you guys remind me of a little puppy begging for attention:/ The thing is, yall are too flighty for my liking. A guy I know liked 2 girls at the same time and one of them even like him back and she asked him out, but he said no because he like the other one more like dude??? The other girl even had boyfriend but still he said no. Then he had the audacity to complain about the fact that he's never been in a relationship before. These people are more in love with the idea and attention of love then actually being in a relationship. As a Capricorn Venus this placement is a red flag sorry.
🥀 Saturn square Venus in synastry is so sad to watch its literally right person wrong time as a placement. The couple I was talking about above had this placement and they didnt end up together because they liked each other at different times and everyone ships them too but it just never happened. The girl was the Venus and the guy was Saturn.
🥀 Virgo Mars are secretly little freaks and if they have aspects from Saturn it could be someone who's into bdsm. I met a guy with this placement and he used to call me master and ma'am. For some reason i could sense the sexual undertone in his voice but idk. Virgos in general are the definition of gentlemen/lady in the streets freaky in the sheets, so keep your eye on them.
🥀 Taurus and Cancer together in the big six gives major milf energy.
🥀 Capricorn and Virgo together in the big six gives dilf energy.
🥀 I hate stereotyping placements in astrology but damn Gemini Venus men are fuckboys sorry. My bestfriend has this placement and he told me he like 4 girls at once. Also he dated all of his best friends and while one of them was in a relationship he asked her out while she was dating the other guy. He got rejected but still. I think this applies to guy with a Gemini Sun though because I've observed that Cancer Sun Gemini Venus guys behave differently.
🥀 Leo risings are not as confident as youd think. People I know with this placement are super insecure and have a love hate relationship with their hair.
🥀 10th and 11th house synastry is seriously so slept on. If you want a ride or die lover go find someone you have this synastry with. Major power couple vibes.
That's all for today don't hesitate to give feedback:)
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the-pea-and-the-sun · 1 month
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how did it take me so long to start calling myself aromantic/arospec. like now that ive actually started using the term for myself its so crazy to me that i wasnt using this term since the first time i heard about it. i literally remember like almost a year ago being like "i wish i could just call myself aromantic itd just be a way easier way to explain to people the sort of relationships i want since im interested in sex and really close friendships but not really interested in traditional romantic relationships right now" like my brother you CAN?? jesus fuck. like this thought came aftera series of relationships where i would tell my friends that i had a crush on someone, then the relationship progressed in someway, then i got the sense that the person i was interested in had romantic feelings for me and id get this weird horrible feeling and would run away. and i was literally like "what is this whats going on". i was like woah this must be like.... commitment issues or something. like i was going around telling people that. i was getting over commitment issues that were surely temporary. but they werent asking me to commit to anything they just had feelings for me that i couldnt reciprocate bcz i was just attracted to them and wanted to me friends with them and i thought thats what romantic attraction was. i literally remember telling someone abt someone i liked an they were like "why dont u ask them out?" an my answer was just that i was trying to find reasons not to and i couldnt. cuz i was attracted to them and liked spending time with them and liked being their friend but i was so so happy not being in a romantic relationship anymore and i couldnt shake the feeling that if i got into another one even with the perfect person it was literally gonna ruin my life and i would have to pretend to have feelings that i didnt have.
idk im frustrated that i hadnt considered it sooner but its also kinda exciting to discover something abt urself an ur sexuality. like this label brings me the same joy that other labels that ive discovered fit me do like i feel like how i felt when i came to terms w being trans an being bisexual. i feel like im 13 again finding trans and bisexual youtubers and being like "??? there are others?" like ppl dont talk abut it as much w being aro and ace bcz those are defined by the absence of a feeling rather than the presence of one but it really can be just as exciting to find out that you're aro or ace as it can be to discover that you're a lesbian or gay or transgender or something.
like not to be cheesy but discovering that i could just. have friends and also have sex made everything kinda click in my head for me. like literally i felt like a more complete person. experiencing that and realizing like. oh. this is amazing this is literally all i want like nothing is missing. i literally just dont have to do romance stuff like no ones making me do that why did i think i have to do that. like oh my god this is such a good feeling i really can do whatever i want forever.
this post doesnt rly have a point exactly i just kinda have a lot of feelings to get out. i love you aromantic ppl i love being aromantic it fucking rules actually. every aromantic person whos posted abt their experience an helped me get comfortable w the label i owe u a hundred billion dollars jesus christ i love you guys
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boosaot · 1 month
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While not a perfect person I dont think Jieun deserves to be painted as a horrible person,,
(the real villains of SfH are Jaeho and Goeun 😤)
Long post sorry 💀 hope it makes sense
I’ve seen people imply that she’s a bad gf because she’s leading on Jaeho, rude when Jongwoo tries to reach out for help/support, selfish and what not,,
She has a boss that walks over her, invites her to after-work dinners and gossips about her behind her back, forces her to pick up her bf’s calls as some sort of power play and singles her out by watching her like a hawk for any mistakes she can scold her for.
She’s far from respected and she thinks that maybe it’ll get better if she just keeps her head down and is cooperative. However foolish that line of thought is what else can she do? Quit? Im sure finding a new job is easy-peasy /sarc.
I do agree that her lashing out at Jongwoo isn’t appropriate behaviour but if my memory serves me correctly I do think she apologizes to him for it.
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I find it extremely unfair for people to assume Jieun is reciprocative to Jaeho’s affections in anyway. He’s just a manipulative bastard who uses Jieun’s worry and love for Jongwoo as an excuse to hang out with her. Him making gross comments about Jieun to Jongwoo isn’t her fault either.
I truly believe that from her P.O.V Jaeho is a friend of Jongwoo who is worried about him and wants to be there to help. She doesnt know that Jaeho is trying to emasculate Jongwoo by trying to make it look like Jongwoo can’t provide the support Jieun needs.
Jaeho’s snide comments and manipulative behaviour are too subtle for Jongwoo to call it out without it looking like he’s reading too deep into it. Same goes for Jieun and her boss Goeun.
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During the scene above i can see how it may look like Jieun is trying to get Jongwoo to concede to Jaeho but Jongwoo is truly acting aggressive. Jieun is genuinely worried about his sudden change in behaviour.
I don’t blame Jongwoo for getting mad at Jaeho whatsoever. Jaeho conceals his true motives and feelings under the guise of wanting to help Jongwoo. He only does this because it makes him look better because hes “standing by his friend despite his anger issues, look he even gracefully got him a job”. Everything Jaeho does for Jongwoo is something that can boost his own ego and public perception.
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From Jieun’s perspective she might assume that Jongwoo is stressed out from moving from the countryside to Seoul and is on edge in a new environment. She tries to reassure him but I will admit that it comes off as dismissive on his end because we know the reality of his situation.
Let’s be real here, its not like you see people move into apts full of murderers every day. It’s such an inconceivable concept to Jieun that she assumes Jongwoo is just sensitive due to stress.
Even after being warned about them she still goes in the building and sees for herself that “hey these people aren’t so bad” because they’re putting on a front to her.
The only way that Jieun could fully grasp how evil the people at Eden are is if she lived there but never in a billion years would Jongwoo want to endanger her that way. He wouldn’t want to have his gf hurt just to make a point.
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If I look at it from Jieun’s perspective I 99.9% believe that she’s within her right to be behaving the way she does.
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However i do think that their relationship would’ve started to decline anyways as soon as Jongwoo moved to Seoul. Moving put him in a bad financial situation just so he could be closer to Jieun.
Jongwoo would most likely feel inadequate due to being unable to take her out on proper dates and do couple things. This wouldn’t be helped by Jaeho’s behaviour and snide comments.
The lack of communication and time for eachother would most likely be the downfall to their relationship.
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(However in my heart they break up and Jieun gets to be all happy and frolic in a field while Moonjo gets to keep Jongwoo’s crazy-ass)
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plss gimme the fucked up ocelot/liquid dynamics
i dont know if this is gonna make any sense because i just wrote it in a haze but
i definitely think ocelot is weird about all of the bibo clones. he has way too much fun torturing snavid, and he works closely with solidus during mgs1-2. those two look the most like bibo, so ofc he has a strange attraction to them.
for liquid i think its a little more complicated because a) he met liquid as a child. but he didn't watch him grow up, and i dont think he felt any kind of familial bond with him. he was an annoying little shithead for a few months and then he fucked off into the wilderness to live with a bunch of other feral children.
and b) due to the whole liquid-miller situation. i have a lot of thoughts on ocelhira and how it mightve played out, and half of them contradict the rest, but i do think ocelot genuinely liked kaz and liked working with him. whether or not that was reciprocated is where my contradictory thoughts lie. they likely worked together post-1984 in foxhound, but it's unclear for how long.
so fast forward to 2005 where hes working with liquid, who has grown up into a handsome man who, aside from the hair, is the spitting image of big boss. hes more vindictive and hateful, but still eerily similar. his motivation to create a safe place for the genome soldiers mirrors big boss's goal of a nation of soldiers. and hes willing to blow up the rest of the world to do it. hes got a similar inspirational charisma that lands him leadership of foxhound, commanding the rest of the mgs1 bosses and the entire genome army.
so not only does ocelot draw parallels between him and big boss, which has tangled romance feelings involved, but also when liquid decides to kill miller and impersonate him, ocelot gives him a lot of information in order to be convincing (im assuming). tapes and videos and records to get to know miller better, and ocelot watches him literally transform into a copy of younger miller, very similar in age to when ocelot first met miller. (assuming they met at some point after 1975, kaz wouldve been early 30s, and liquid is also early 30s in 2005).
liquid's impression is of foxhound miller, but its probably still uncanny and takes ocelot off guard. so now hes contending with his past relationship with big boss AND miller, with whatever insane feelings he must have about the two of them focused into one guy.
the entire time this is happening, ocelot is working to undermine the entire plan and conspiring with solidus. so he doesnt fully respect liquid nor does he take him seriously. their interactions with each other feel like ocelot is just going along with whatever liquid says, because liquid thinks hes in charge. ocelot is willing to be insulted and humiliated by liquid to advance the overarching plan. (solidus' to overthrow the patriots using the data stolden from REX, ocelot's to later betray solidus and maintain the patriots. all that fuckery.)
but i think ocelot is having the time of his life during this. it feels like working with big boss. it feels like working with miller. every time liquid puts on the sunglasses or gives an order as the boss of foxhound, its like standing in the room with one of two ghosts that feels entirely real. thats gotta be confusing as fuck. but also hot.
so i think ocelot has a lot of conflicting feelings on liquid but ultimately is attracted to him, not for who liquid is, but for who he reminds ocelot of. its something ocelot can have a little fun with while still achieving his overall goal of supporting the patriots. (until its his turn to overthrow them. jesus christ ocelot why is your plan so convoluted.)
meanwhile liquid i think believes ocelot IS the foolish old man he portrays himself as during mgs1. he didnt respect ocelot when they met in the 80s, and he still doesnt take him seriously in 2005. i dont think liquid is interested in ocelot at all. if anything, it would simply be for the power trip of controlling his father's former right-hand man. possibly feelings of anger/hate from ocelot's close association with big boss. he probably realizes ocelot has some kind of feelings toward him, maybe not realizing the extent of it, but uses this to his advantage. perhaps he even believes this is why ocelot is willing to endure the insults and humiliation.
overall i think their dynamic would be strange, nostalgic pining against a somewhat bitter distrust and disrespect + a mutual feeling of superiority/incompetence.
they both think theyre taking advantage of the other. ocelot wants what he can no longer have, because both miller and big boss are dead. liquid is a stand in for them. liquid thinks hes in charge and in control of shadow moses, and he doesnt take ocelot seriously enough to consider something else is going on behind the scenes. he focuses his anger at big boss towards anyone who was associated with him- snavid, miller, ocelot. they both use each other as proxies to channel strong emotion.
its fucked :]
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enamation · 9 months
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𝐉𝐔𝐒𝐓 𝐋𝐄𝐓 𝐌𝐄 𝐋𝐎𝐕𝐄 𝐘𝐎𝐔 . . ❢
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character(s) ♡ rui yashio
type ♡ headcannons
warning(s) ♡ not really a warning , but rui hurts readers feelings at one point , so EXTREMELY slight angst ! definitely possibly ooc ? its been SO LONG since ive played bandori . . please lmk if you want it rewritten ♡
a/n ♡AHHH ! ! finally ! a bandori requester ! hello ! ! lets see what i remember about morfonica + rui's personality . .♡ ♡ i dont really like how this turned out , but i gave it my best shot , try to imagine some parts . .
requester ♡ @asherenjoysart
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yashio rui . . . 八潮瑠唯
Rui , who not only has multiple student council activities , but also doesnt understand the concept of ' hanging out ' , really did shock everyone when she confirmed she was in a relationship .
you were so bubbly and physically touchy . . it was such a complete contrast of two people .
people would always see you holding onto her arm or staying so awfully close to her .
but you did notice Rui didnt reciprocate in public . .
it did upset you sometimes , since you always wanted to be with her and cling onto her , but Rui is strictly against pda .
as much as shes learned to love you and get used to demanding to always be with her , it irks her occasionally .
to be seperated because of class / stuco for some time and your mood immediately shifting negatively because of not being able to be by her side . .
. . she just had to tell you straight - up .
" [Name], listen to me. We are both people with lives and respomsibilities, and we must fulfill those responsibilities when that time comes. If you cannot handle being away from me for even just a few minutes, we have alot to talk about. "
she watched your heart shatter , but she knew it had to be done , and you backed off on her slightly , ignoring the itch to cling onto her .
but as ive said , shes learned to love you .
so not only does she apologize , she allows for you to cling onto her like a koala once you are away from the public eyes .
but once school is back on , you need to back off .
so , in conclusion ✰ it did take some time not only for Rui to realize she did indeed love you and the polar opposites you are . sometimes it clashes , but you both always make it work . . . ❢
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pantamonte · 2 months
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Didn't you used to have an oc named M who was a thing with Lilith? Can you tell us about them? Is M based off a specific demon like your other ocs??
M! I still have him. I just dont draw him much because im not fixated on my ocs at the moment. Same goes for a lot of my other ocs. I still own them I just dont rlly get to draw them
He isnt based on a demon like in the Ars Goetia but he IS based on Mephistopheles, a demon that is in the german story of Faust and plays a role as Lucifer's right hand man in my story.
He has a lot of chemistry with Lilith as he met her when she first defied her role as the first man Adam's wife. When she was taken into hell, the two found themselves exchanging a banter easily and growing close really fast.
The thing is with Lilith though, is that its hard to really be her partner. Not many completely win her over, and since she has a role as a succubus for hell's armies, she will have countless flings. It kind of started that way for her and Mephisto. It started as something casual. It lacked implications on them being anything more initially.
Mephisto is often limited on his relationships as Lucifer insists it distracts him from his role and forbids it (something he has addressed with Mephisto on multiple occasions) so he can't enjoy romantic relationships on a deeper and more serious level despite him being a natural romantic at heart and craving the romantic intimacy. So, Mephisto ALSO has countless flings but often to feel some sort of connection to another person. Mephisto inevitably fell in love with Lilith's personality, however. But he never pressured what they had to be anything more.
As time passed, Lilith began to pay attention to the way Mephisto treats her in comparison to most. He wasnt a perfect man by any means, but he showed a genuine tenderness and consideration which made her eventually reciprocate. Their time spent together then became exclusively romantically charged.
It got even more secretive however when Lilith is pushed into a marriage with the great Asmodeus. She didn't agree to it, but she is forced into the role anyway as Lucifer signed off on it (and no one can really defy his power when hes set on something, especially when Asmodeus is Lucifer's brother). Asmodeus doesnt prevent her from continuing her duties as a succubus but will still not react well to her feelings to Mephisto if he finds out.
So for Lilith and Mephisto, the two are forced to be more secretive and private about their relationship due to their circumstances. Though they both cant help but long for a day they could be free from their respective shackles.
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natalias-pierogi · 9 months
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Pimfah, Kang, comphet and lesbian agenda thoughts:
from where im standing both pimfah and kang are doing this thing where you start feeling something Gay so you just pick one person to have a Very Heterosexual Crush On. you pick a person that seems to be the perfect match: theyre right there, theyre nice to you, maybe theyre your friend. maybe its someone all of your friends had been nagging you about, jokin that you like them. in theory, theyre perfect. bonus points if theyre out of your reach and have minimal chances of returning your feelings.
so obviously, kang, whos starting to feel Something towards sailom, the poor boy, the guy hes been fighting with and who turned out to always fight him back, chooses pimfah. shes been his friend for a while, theyre fathers know each other. she obviously cares about him and likes him. he feels like his life is already laid out in front of him, a plan hes expected to follow. like he himself said, a part of this plan is getting married and having kids. and he doesnt want that (or rather, he doesnt even know what he wants), but maybe it wouldnt be that bad if it was with his best friend, who cares about him, who treats him like a person and who knows him well. and so, he chooses pimfah to have a crush on, because shes an obvious, safe option. much safer than sailom.
and then we have pimfah. i dont know if im reading too much into the whole situation with the teacher trainee, but it seems to match a little too well. we dont know too much about pimfah, other than the fact that shes an artist, has a rich father and has been friends with kang for a while. shes nice, shes smart and she knows and cares about kang. he would be the perfect choice for her Heterosexual Crush for the same reasons shes perfect for kang. but instead, she goes for sailom.
and thats an interesting choice, but it actually makes a lot of sense if you think about it. we dont know anything about her father, other than him being a head of a hospital and him being rich. we dont know anything about her relationship with him or what he expects of her, but it seems unlikely that the rich parents would be happy with their doughter dating a poor boy.
shes nice and shes smart and she knows kang, so i think she sees things. she sees how important sailom is for him. she probably sees that sailom likes kang. theres no way hed reciprocate her feelings.
and i think that sailom being out of her reach is like, the main reason she went for him. also, we queers tend to flock together and get pulled towards each other.
so yeah, im curious where this is heading and what will they do with pimfah. im rly hoping they wont just use her as a plot device to, idk, make kang jelous and hurt sailoms feeling, and i hope that the teacher trainee also isnt just a plot device to push sailom away from tutoring kang and into the waiting arms of Mr. Name and his clients.
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meant to send this earlier but i forgort lolz
was having many 16 candles thoughts earlier, specifically relating to his past relationships. two main ones
gabe n pete: petes just a teenager achmoozing up to guys to get free drinks when he meets gabe and vampiric motivations aside, gabe views him as a victim of opportunity, a quick fix. but this like develops into something more rooted. like parasitic symbiosis. the parasite (gabe) is continually feeding off vital reaources of the host (pete). hes getting him just to the point of completely drained before stopping, because if the host dies so does he. the inly thing is, the host kinda Loves the feeling of being drained from the inside out. basically gabe uses pete for kicks n pete likes the attention so he just takes it
very much this on both sides
anyways onto numba two, joe n pete: joe is the first person to really show pete a different side to love, a softer side, something tender. like gentle lapping waves and the pitter patter of rain. its calm. its comforting attention and not suffocating in any way. its reciprocated. basucalky theyre super cheesy n joe is very much In Love and Enamored wuth pete n pete just, Doesnt Get Why but joe keeps loving him anyways. basically all of my thoughts about them were spurred by the idea of joe singing these below songs to pete
GODDDDD GAUGE IM SORRY IT TOOK SO FUCKING LOVE TO GET TO THISE BUT LIKE. I HAD TO PROCESS AND GET MY BRAIN TO START WORKING AGAIN AFTER READING MAN THE THOUGHTS-
first of all swan song for pete and gabe fucking. you want me dead? is that it? you want me fucking DEAD man-
just. cant stop thinkin abt "promises are broken tell me are you happy now" through the lens of like. gabe becoming so attached to pete- almost territorial of him? like you said is parasitic he cares about pete like youd care about a new hobby youre picking up. hes new and exciting and invigorating, and pete loves having eyes of him and feeling like hes worth something to somebody, and theres a layer of trust there because of that which just gets fucking shattered and like. gabe doesnt care because he cant care because petes just a hobby. just a snack. just something pretty to pass the time. and pete probably knows that he didnt mean as much as he liked to pretend he did but come on- was he really that worthless? did he really deserve this? and the thing is no. gabe would say he didnt. he didnt mean for it to go so far, pete doesnt deserve this shit but he got in too deep and gabe got too attached and pete let his guard down and how could he not keep taking when pete was so willing to just keep giving? "tell me are you happy now." gabe looking at pete with apologies that mean nothing just begging him to keep giving even when he has nothing left because gabe doesnt know how to let go. pete looking at gabe wondering if this was the point the whole time if he was only ever just food like a sacrifice for the cave monster terrorizing the village; are you happy now did you get what you wanted is this what i was worth to you?
and ohhhhhh my fucking god okay then you look at pete and joe and its like. pete cant understand what he has left to give anyone anymore he doesnt understand why joe would loe him or keep him around because he views love as a transaction. he doesnt think he deserves love when hes incapable of giving something of substance back. and maybe that manifests in this protectiveness over joe like hes constantly willing to throw himself in front of danger to protect him because what the fuck else am i good for why else would he love me- and then joe seeing that and just. reminding himthat hes loved like with the songs. hes loved not because of or in spite of this undefined something he possessed; not with expectations of giving and taking but just because he is. godddddd im fucking sick over them i dont have much more coherent shit to say theyre just !!!! theyre soft and they love each other and its real and its there and whgat if i fuckniig gjdsgjhgs
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nmzuka · 5 months
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Alright I did it Ranking the human characters from Primal Rage: The Avatars from least to most mischaracterized to me personally:
--Kaze and Keena They're kinda just genetic "protagonist hero" and "girl" I do like a lot of moments they had overall and dont think their characters are bad for them Keena having a crush on Kaze wasn't terrible since it obviously wasn't reciprocated but I did HATE the long bit of Keena fretting about "never feeling the touch of a man" she's 15 bro she's not thinking about that pls fuck off I do think it was lacking a lot in Keena being a child (and they kinda cop-out of doing that by saying she like matured by magic after becoming an Avatar which is lame) I don't really have that much to say in general about Kaze. I thought he was fine for being the "main character" The other characters joking about him being WAY too loyal to Blizzard (to the point of joking he wanted to fuck him) was honestly really funny tho
--Shank hard for me to fault much cause like he isnt in the book a whole lot? but I do wish they'd done more with him… he's just kinda there, does his thing, and then goes away Spoilers kinda but it was really weird that he gave a false name when he met them and then like Keena just out of no where was like "what's your real name?!" and then Malyssa knew who he was?? which I guess was the point that he hid his name so they wouldn't realize he was Chaos but they also never brought up that Malyssa knew who he was?
--Sinjin on the one hand I think Sinjin's character was kinda fun. He is sassy and a bit quippy (really like his line when all the gods got together and were roaring at each other and he just says "one big happy family…" its just so silly of him I love it) They made it a point of how good he was at rallying troops behind him and like giving these passionate speeches which is kinda fun for him to be charismatic like that but it really feels like character moments that should have been for Arik?? The book didn't even bother bringing up his want to die (I dont remember if it even brought up he was immortal? I dont think they did) that annoyed me but REALLY annoyed me when he had the line while giving a speech to the soldiers and said "we have the will to live!" made me yell HE WOULD NOT FUCKING SAY THAT!! his personal motives are just kinda dropped after a while too? like he started out playing both sides (the other Avatars and Necrosan) but that doesnt really go anywhere and once he gets the powers of being an avatar it seems like he's going to betray the Avatars because he doesnt want to release Diablo again but it just never happens? they have a lead in like he's planning something but Tor and Arik show up and he just never tries any kind of backup plan or anything? he's just fully helping the Avatars to beat Necrosan and release the gods
--Arik, Tor, Xiao Ming Im lumping all 3 together because they are honestly interchangeable in the book you could just swap the names and it wouldnt make a difference because they arent given enough character to stand out. which is a real shame! especially for Arik and Xiao Ming because I think they have a lot of interesting character possibilities with what we get from the game:
Arik is a fallen prince who wants to rebuild his kingdom and in his game ending it says how he became a greatly loved king who was known for his compassion and wisdom. He establishes a new age of peace and prosperity for humanity and its a shame the book just doesn't touch on that at all I mean they mention he's a prince but not any of his wants to help humanity
Xiao Ming is an arrogant fighter who challenged the god Slashfang to a fight and lost. Shashfang doesnt kill him tho and instead makes him his avatar in his ending he rechallenges Slashfang who says instead of a fight Xiao Ming must hunt him down He fails at this as well but over his time traveling gains a sense of humility and peace
So I always pictured his relationship with Slashfang being more bitter? it says how Xiao Ming is "disfigured" by his earlier fight with Slashfang and I dont think he was really a willing follower?? Slashfang is more trying to teach him a lesson in the book tho he's just a guy, given no sense of arrogance or anything he's just there and hanging out with Slashfang like whatever. it did annoy me too cause there was a bit where Xiao Ming and Keena think Kaze betrayed them and Keena is the one going off about what a jerk he is and shit and Xiao Ming is the one like "no he wouldnt do that would he?" when I think it should have been switched with Xiao Ming shit talking Kaze for betraying them
I did laugh when the book out right said Tor and Armadon were boring lol (Malyssa is the one to say it and I was just like "girl you get it they are so boring") but honestly that made me more sad then anything cause I had hoped to get some character ideas for Tor especially but nope he's just kinda around and is a normal dude? Armadon mentions him being afraid but never of what? like what is that suppose to mean my guy??
--Malyssa ok so like… she is my fav character in the book but also the one that bothers me the most ffff I liked how much pull she had in the story playing both sides the whole time, betraying people and then talking her way back onto their side (even tho most of the time it made no fucking sense what she was trying to do or how she was able to make the others work with her again) I just liked how important she was
what I didnt like was how much of her character was "breasted boobily down the stairs" they for some reason made her centuries old but keeping herself youthful by drinking the blood of virgin men after sleeping with them?? like okay (I dont at all mind that she liked to get it like good for her! they just kinda made it weird cause she always thinking about it) her not wearing much clothes was brought up a LOT and just talking about her "supple body" I get it she's sexy idk it just really derailed me every time and made me roll my eyes. they didnt at all bring up any of her lore from the game which also really bothered me and I think was the main reason I hated her being portrayed as she was in the book
in the game she's literally a slave to Vertigo as are all her people (magically bound to serve Vertigo) and Malyssa wants to free them she ends up tricking Vertigo and rewritting a spell that Vertigo thought would free herself into one that would free Malyssa and her people and then she leads her people with kindness and allows them to pursue freedom and happiness
which is like so good??? thats part of why I like Malyssa so much cause she's bound to one of the big bads of the series yet she herself isnt evil and wants to do good (at least for her people) I just love that for her and it feels like such a shame the book reduced her to just "sexy evil lady" (not that thats not a fun character type but just not for Malyssa I think)
anyway I know the book was just a silly thing written to promote a fighting game about giant dinosaurs so I dont hold it to being like the most amazing piece of literature ever written. It would have had to have been a lot longer to touch on all the characters lore (and honestly thinking of it now if we had instead gotten a series of books each focusing on the individual characters with a slowly intertwining story would have been amazing!!) at the end of the day I had fun reading it! But did just want to whinge a bit about the characters (because I love them a lot hhh)
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nicegaai · 8 months
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having nor/ice thoughtssssssssssssss sad sad whiny kitty cat noises. wahhhh. im thinking about them wahhhhhhhh. WAHHH
what if i took all my small canonverse ideas and compiled them into ONESHOTSSSSS........................................ and what if they were CHRONOLOGICALLY ARRANGED ..... and showed RELATIONSHIP PROGRESSION over the course of 1000 years ...... and it wasnt that deep but i pretended it was and called it something like "i was meant to keep you warm" because i love to steal fox/i/ng lyrics. maybe even id find a way to make this a 5 times + 1 time format.
if i can wrestle my way into figuring out what goes on in nors head i could do it. ive figured that i want ice to never ever see him as a brother. my vision is that nor is iceladns hot babysitter fantasy and first crush that never goes away. he wants to marry him when he grows up but then his feelings stay that way and it never ever ever ever ever goes away and only gets worse. u understand? do u see it
and UNFORTUNATELY nor knows ic/eland likes him from the beginning. he can tell from like ice's adolescence onwards and is like yeah idk about all that...... but the attention is flattering and he loves this little guy so much and thinks its sweet. he doesnt get to visit often but ice writes him a lot because hes in love with him ykwim and nor loves him so much too (platonic) and always writes back.
and yeah they go through periods of living together for various reasons. sickness unions famines etc etc. not ever for long and nothing ever happens. if adolescent iceland pushed boundaries, nor would humor him a little with like...a kiss, bc he spoils him, but ultimately he hard-shuts it down. and ice would be traumatized forever and block the memory out / be eternally tormented at night by the time he did such and such so is the worst person alive etc
and ice begins teen life with the whole he will never love me and i am a tormented soul shtick. now he writes to him less, tries to put more distance between them... so it hurts less and all that. hes not GOOD at pretending he hates nor or whatever but its easy to lose connection when messages are rare and visits are rarer
he spends much more time at denmarks than with no.rway. he sees den.mark as a proper older brother / uncle / fatherly figure. hes closer emotionally to him and lives with him more and all that. his tutors are danish and he goes to boarding school in cop.enhagen in the 1800s. idk how this ties into the romance necessarily but its timeline relevant. whether or not denmark picks up on the crush , i dont know. i could go either way lol. also, den + nors relationship is strictly brotherly btw. ironically. because theres not enough fics where theyre platonic and i really do enjoy them that way too
nor and ice remain distant for several hundred years. its once ice gets into his pushing for independence mixed with modern technology for better communication ..... somewhere between say, the invention of the airplane and landline phones, nor and ice repair their relationship. iceland is coming into adulthood (independence) for real, and is SO mature about his international relationships. he can be so mature and normal about norway. he can sit down with him and have lunch and discuss business and norway wont talk down at him for being young at all (lie) and he'll be so chill about that and not yell at him (he only does it once) (he only has to do it once)
all this isnt to say n.orway himself didnt attempt to stay close over the years, but ic.eland wasnt reciprocating, and even if they saw each other every year at christmas (doubt) that doesnt make them really CLOSE. but i think iceland was always particularly special to him bc of how close they were as kids. and they WERE both kids back then. little icela.nd sent him letters while nor was like 14 at best. i believe in teen mom norway and his eldest sondaughter icey. at least from nors perspective. even tho hes so absent so much of the time. when he comes around he showers him in gifts as a love language even way back when
anyway, ice.land still has an obvious crush on nor and nor finds it SO cute. like he could just pinch his cheeks and coo at him for it. ice tries to keep a lid on his emotions but can only do so much. nor doesnt SAY anything to point sus behavior out. but as soon as he notices,,,, its like there was no time apart, to nor. ice is so closed off and stiff and weird around him and nor wishes he would relax so they can connect properly and he honestly CANT
the solution is to drink otgether i think. at some point. maybe not immediately but they'll get to it.
icela.nd isnt like oohg im too young to drink, i think hes just lived long enough that hes a bit Over It / doesnt want to act like an idiot / really doesnt want to act like an idiot in front of nor. but nor could peer pressure him into anything if he really tried so they finally get tipsy together and i think that goes a long way to repair their relationship.
they do this many times and as long as ice is careful to not drink a lot he'll be fine. hes gotta keep his wits about him and still be able to feel shame. one time he indulges a little hard and i think ice trauma dumps on him and they kiss to make up for the time nor pushed him away and nor didnt realize he was still hurting so much about that. nor is tipsy enough to do it (not even drunk) and afterwards he goes ohh wait i kind of enjoyed that. and do it a few more times then make out for a while and it doesnt go anywhere, they fall asleep
the next day they completely remember kissing and know the other remembers it and just mutually dont talk about it.
icelan.d is VISIBLY struggling even harder around him for at least a few days until he gets a handle on his emotions. and nor has a lot to think about. in general.
i dont know where the dna stuff comes in. im falling asleep while typeing this
but icelan.d obvioiusly is like wtf? we arent related. thats impossible. i cant even fathom this. and nor.way is like you are the closest i will ever have to family and i am your biological father and icel.and is like what the fuck ew you can say brother as much as you want but never say father again im begging you and nor is like Bet.
and then they test and they're first degree related. father or brother would be appropriate. and nor is like yeah obviously (already believed this when he kissed him) and ic.eland is like (max harlow voice) SUICIDE !! SUICIDE !!
icelan.d sits with that information for a while but his crush still doesnt go away. nor gives him space and also sits with the information. he never thought he'd end up here but he decides that hes into it. its kinda hot. I Do believe in slutty n.orway supremacy i thnk hes slept with most of europe and doesnt have a strong internal sense of familial boundaries considering he is a landmass and is like yeah id do that again we're both adults hes cute whatever
next time they see each other nor comes onto him. and ice is squeemish about it but this is also everything hes ever wanted. whats he gonna do, say no?
at this point i fell asleep but im awake again uhhhh
ic.eland gets to cope with being a creep a weirdo and getting what he wanted in the worst way possible and nor gets to torment him with the brother thing not as a kink but bcz it makes him uncomfortable and he thinks its funny.
i forgot to talk about the actual oneshot ideas that inspired this in the first place didnt i. oh well
aaaaaaaaaaaaand post
#p
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