#catholicis

[angelspearlheart]

Latest obsession: pocket shrine/altars

[twobrothersatwork]

“For the avenger of bloodshed remembers, does not forget the cry of the afflicted.”

Psalm 9:13 NABRE

Artwork: Cornelis Cornelisz Van Haarlem (Dutch, 1562 - 1638), The Massacre of the Innocents (1591).

[dcgfight]

iako has the urge to fight anyone she has meets but i don't think she genuinely enjoys antagonizing people but it is also a weird psychological thing where she wants people to get mad at her and thus take out their grievances on her. she wants consequences because it means someone actually cares enough to right that behavior but she has so much aggression and frustration at the world inside her little body that throwing punches and kicks and getting someone to fight her back in return is her only real outlet.

[theromaboo]

Beginner Latin class in Canada is the funniest thing ever and it is mostly French's fault. I had to learn Latin in sixth grade, and it was hilarious. I have vivid memories of it.

For one, everyone in my class knew at least some French, and how to pronounce French. Latin is not pronounced anything like French, but Latin really reminded us of French.

SO WE ALL PRONOUNCED IT AS IF IT WAS FRENCH.

My teacher had to explain for like ten minutes how to pronounce "est".

It went like this:

Him: "In Latin, you pronounce every letter."

Us: "yeah yeah we understand"

Him: "So what does this word sound like?" *writes down "est"*

Us: ÈÈÈÈÈÈÈÈ

Him: *shrieks*

That's not all. Because it was a Catholic school, he had to teach us like a million prayers in Latin. (Classical pronunciation for some reason #praying to God all catholicly in the way Cicero would've pronounced it)

He put the St. Michael the Archangel prayer up on the smart board, and we had to read it aloud. We were doing fine, until we reached this dreaded word: "tuque".

The word tuque was a part of our daily lives. It was pronounced "took" (oo as in food) and that's what we called winter hats.

So when we came across that word, our first response was to pronounce it in the way we always did.

The moment, transcribed as I remember it:

"Uh, soup... pleeses. No, supplices. Uh, supplices depree- argh! Deprecamur. Yes. Supplices deprecamur... TOOOOK" *the sound of "TOOOOK" echoes through the air as we look at each other in shame*

My teacher: "???? WHO SAID TOOOOK??"

That's not all. We also had to use the Oxford Latin course, I think. I think that because the pictures were WHACK.

My teacher said "oh, the drawings are a little funny looking. Just ignore them."

But that did not prepare us for THIS

The entire class roasted our boi Quintus a whole lot.

"Why is his head all misshapen like that?"

"What is he smiling at?"

"Why do his shorts have three leg holes?"

Ahh, good times.

[ruinikaidoexplodedbadly]

Merry

[dancedance-resolution]

heartbreaking: i have discovered the college course catalog and now desire to take about 8 years worth of classes </3

[snekdood]

i think some ppl dont understand the difference between being full on consciously bigoted + going out of your way to harass a minority and someone who heard phrases from their friends and family while not actually holding any ill will towards whichever minority

[kesslersymbolic]

meme of Cromwell banning mince pies ending with former US president George Bush telling Jacque Chirac (french president at the time) "Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East"

[themetaisawesome]

Miguel O’Hara

is half Irish, half Mexican

has trouble talking about his feelings

can count the number of people he trusts on one hand

can’t forgive himself for his mistakes

carries guilt over the deaths of his loved ones and millions of innocent lives

voluntarily puts the weight of all of reality on his shoulders to the point where it crushes what little mental health he has left

has devotion to his righteous cause that would put any templar or paladin to shame

and is a vampire

Miguel O’Hara might just be the most catholicy catholic to ever catholic.

[angelspearlheart]

[wonder-worker]

"The existence of alternative narratives for Chilperic's reign has encouraged some scholars to seek to restore the king's reputation, emphasizing in particular his audacious literary and theological efforts, which Gregory had mocked mercilessly. Fredegund, in contrast, has been comparatively less fortunate in her treatment by modern historians. Much like Christine de Pizan (ca. 1365-1430), who described Fredegund in her Book of the City of Ladies as "unnaturally cruel for a woman" while also acknowledging that the queen ruled "most wisely after her husband's death," scholars willing to concede the queen's intelligence and political acumen have been unable to abandon entirely those negative characteristics originally assigned to Fredegund by Gregory of Tours. Thus, for Wemple, Women in Frankish Society, 63-64, Fredegund is a woman of "courage and acumen," but also, "ruthless and manipulative." For Goffart, The Narrators of Barbarian History, 224, she is "savage but resolute." For Ian Wood, The Merovingian Kingdoms (London: Longman, 1994), 124, she is "a model, if somewhat bloodthirsty, queen.”

-Gregory I. Halfond, "Sis Quoque Catholicis Religionis Apex: The Ecclesiastical Patronage of Chilperic I and Fredegund"

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[turangalila]

Magister Albertus Parisiensis Congaudeant Catholici [(f. 185) Codex Calixtinus. Archivo-Biblioteca de la Catedral, Santiago de Compostela, Spain]

Congaudeant catholici, letentur cives celici, die ista / Clerus pulcris carminibusstudeat atque cantibus, die ista / Hec est dies laudabilis, divina luce nobilis, die ista/Qua Iacobus palacia ascendit ad celestia, die ista / Vincens Herodis gladium accepit vite bravium, die ista / Ergo carenti termino Benedicamus Domino, die ista / Magno patri familias solvamus laudis gracias, die ista. //

Vox Iberica I - Donnersöhne / Sons Of Thunder. Sequentia (1992, Deutsche Harmonia Mundi – RD 77 199)

[majorbaby]

started writing some postwar mulcahy stuff, a lot of it pretty critical of him as a character, feat. BJ when i realized i care more about him and BJ as mirrors in GFA

standard mulcahy disclaimer: my interpretation of him as a character is heavily tied to his vocation as a catholic priest. given that i have an overwhelmingly negative view of the catholic church as an institution and an even worse opinion of volunteer clergy in asia in particular, that means a lot of my views about him tend to be negative.

i think that's a valid interpretation to have because he's a tertiary character and often isn't given the opportunity for a three-dimensional person to be established. and also because i'm primarily interested in MASH as a satirical critique of the army, so i tend to care about where a character falls in relation to the establishment more than i care about their personal drama. hawkeye and margaret are exceptions to that rule only because their drama is so varied and heavily focused on.

they really pushed the 'crisis of faith' with mulcahy in GFA and i'm not into that. reason being, i think more people ought to have crises of faith when confronted with the reality that their all-loving, all-compassionate god has an army of earthly foot-soldiers who often do not seem to be motivated by compassion or love. It is comical to suggest that this is the first time mulcahy has wondered "whether god is deaf" honey there's a war on. I get it, it's his finale drama, but i think the problem is that (to his credit) it's reasonable for him to have had such a crisis earlier on during any of the other heartbreaking things he bears witness to so i was rolling my eyes.

what i did think was interesting was the drawn-out interaction between beejcahy (that's what i'm calling it! sorry lol). here you have two characters who are utterly beholden to their belief systems, which are oppressive to them and oppressive to others. and you also have a show that is completely oblivious to that most of the time, rarely having either character question their beliefs. i would argue that charles has done more to grow his worldview and that is because charles' worldview is positioned by the narrative as a character flaw he ought to grow out of. as opposed to the famously virtuous and unproblematic catholic dogma or standard WASP nuclear family programming.

and as i mentioned with mulcahy because i don't have a range of character traits or drama to point to without headcanonry, i have to give a lot of importance to his being a catholic priest.

so BJ's got his american dream and mulcahy's got the catholic church. i think it's totally valid for mulcahy to not want to share his disability with other people, but i also can't ignore that it's BJ who helps him keep that from the people around them, who'd of course want to help him. makes total sense to me that BJ would be understanding of that, because he does it himself all the time, and seems to think that's worked out soooooo great.

i find the bit he says about having already done his time in purgatory annoying because you don't volunteer to go to purgatory, not that hawkeye or BJ have anything to say about that lol. i know i am being a killjoy about mulcahy's warm finale moment but i cannot see past the unintentional parody.

he gets on the truck without anyone except BJ knowing what's happened, not even hawkeye who by virtue of being the protagonist had a closer relationship with mulcahy than anyone else on the show. as with BJ, hawkeye verbalizes that his doubt that he will ever see mulcahy again and also as with BJ i am inclined to trust hawkeye on that one. Imo, it lends further credibility to the argument against any kind of 4077th reunion. this part of their lives is over, and closure is achieved but there are still some major things left unsaid. without committing to any one headcanon for postwar mulcahy (partially because he was on aftermash and i have no interest in watching that), my view of catholicism being an unreliable support system and uncertainty around how he will process his trauma has me leaning towards a breakdown for him once he gets home.

[baublecoded]

“Foxe would delight Henry by showing him a 110-page Latin dossier explaining the ‘true difference between royal and ecclesiastical power’. A momentous document whose scruffy, uninviting appearance belies its significance, it is headed ‘Ex sacris scripturis et authoribus Catholicis’ (‘Compiled from Holy Scriptures and Catholic Authors’) and known today as the ‘Collectanea satis copiosa’ (‘Sufficiently plentiful collections’). Evolving from the ‘King’s Book’ and then marshalling new sources culled from biblical texts, the Church Fathers, the decrees of Church Councils, Roman law, Anglo-Saxon laws and national histories and chronicles, it made the bold argument that the pope was merely the Bishop of Rome. As such, his jurisdiction did not extend beyond his own diocese, whereas the King of England was the ‘Vicar of Christ’ in his kingdom. According to the dossier, Henry’s ‘lawful’ powers were just as ‘imperial’ as those of the early Byzantine emperors, notably Constantine the Great and Justinian, or the Old Testament rulers David and Solomon (Henry’s favourite kings were David and Solomon, and he could quote verbatim from the Old Testament and the Code and Institutes of Justinian). Should he choose to reappropriate his regal powers, he might appoint his own bishops instead of merely nominating candidates to the pope, and he could reform the monasteries. He might then also empower the Archbishop of Canterbury, or else a panel of bishops, to investigate and reach a verdict on his ‘scruples of conscience’, with no appeal allowed. None of this, Foxe argued, would make Henry schismatic like Luther. He would merely be ‘restoring’ to himself legitimate royal rights which, historically, Anglo-Saxon and Norman kings had exercised, and which the papacy had usurped. (Some of the dossier’s claims were true, although their historical contexts could be misunderstood; others were twisted to prove what its compilers wanted the king to believe.) Only Henry II in late 1169 at the height of his quarrel with Archbishop Thomas Becket had dared to make claims like these, and he had been forced to make amends after the appalling scandal of Becket’s murder.”

— John Guy & Julia Fox, Hunting the Falcon: Henry VIII, Anne Boleyn and the Marriage That Shook Europe

[nateriverswife]

Hello there.

I am running on no sleep but my brain is keeping me hostage; so I have to get this out of my system.

The one peculiar (stereotyped) characterisation of Mello that seems to stood out the most amongst the fandom is his tendency to worship the very ground L has walked on. He loves his older brother, very overprotective when it comes to L and is the epitome of a feisty rascal.

Don't get me wrong, while I do love me some plantonic, found family Wammy Boys fic— I simply cannot help but to feel this very character is not remotely close to what canon had to offer.

Mello is shown to be a, sort of, conflicted catholic person in Death Note (ie: wearing a cross) and while it can be headcanon that he simply wears them because of -well- style, I like the idea of him being really religious before swearing that he's fight God in hell.

I feel like Mello sees L as a god, worshipped him and all, but he wanted nothing more than to overthrown him; he is a priest, L is a god and the Wammy's House is the very church that instilled this sort of ideology unto him. L is a legend, an idea, a concept— an abstract philosophy no one could decipher— hence, when L did die, the last evidence of how humane he is, how he could be, Mello is furious.

After all— what god could be defeated by means of mortality?

L is not a human, and the products of the Wammy's House are only that— inhumane. They were taught, nurtured, specifically moulded to become what they could not fanthom. They are doomed children, they are home, they are lost.

So, Mello knew that he was damned the moment he saw L as anything and everything, but nothing at the same time. He, of all people, went through hell and back just to impersonate the one person that made him — that created him, gave him purpose and whatnot — what good does he serve if L were to die before he could attain it? He was cruelly reminded of his own mortality, that he was bound by law and governed with instinct. And oh, how torturous it must've been.

This rant might not make sense, but it's fine. I wanted to talk about how The Wammy's House alone contains so many religious symbolism. I want to talk about the Wammy kids. I want to talk about L. But it's now 2.03 a.m. and I can hear smell.

Hope you don't mind me dropping by.

- E.H.

Hi, E.H.!

Firstly, I want to apologize for the time it took me to reply. Considering that it won’t even be an in-depth response with any manga reference, it really doesn’t explain it, so for that, I am sorry.

The reason why this isn’t going to be as long as e.g. my reply to the “L not using the death note” message is mostly a “problem” on my part, because I actually don’t really interact with that part of the fandom that talks and analyses Mello. I don’t know if it is obvious, but usually my analyses are done in response to claims that I see and don’t agree with (like, you had a post saying that L would actually work with Light, if he caught him, and I first reblogged it, saying that I don’t agree but then made a full-on post about it). Just two times, I wrote something about Mello because I wanted to air my two very personal headcanons (to explain his connection to the mafia & his relation with masculinity) out.

Anyways, that is to say that I don’t go out of my way to read people’s opinions about Mello (and Near, to be honest).

I have my established headcanons or interpretations of his character and it’s enough of a headache to see bad takes about L. I don’t think I have the energy to add Mello to that. Besides, most people that do make analyses about him tend to be those that ship meronia, so their view of the character is through that lens, even when it could be omitted. I don’t see many mellodramattic shippers do the same. They just give headcanons about Mello and Matt’s relationship.

Before I get out my opinion, I must say that your interpretation of Mello here is beautiful – the way you explained it, too. I do agree to some extent: I like the parallelism between Catholicism and the Wammy’s, with L and Watari, because I too think Mello saw it like that.

In my personal hc about his past, his father killed himself when he was really young. He lived with his very ill mother, who was a devoted Christian that passed this belief to him, and he prayed with her, prayed to God that she would get well, prayed for a better life, but then his mother died, leaving him alone, and he blamed God, like “I spent years praying that she’d be healthy, praying to you, and you take her away from me? My mother, the only person I care about. How could you betray me like that? No... How dare. Who do you think you are to do these choices?”. So, he began to resent Him, but still kept the rosary to honour his mother.

Then, when he was taken to Wammy’s and found out about this other “God” that actually saved people and worked for a better future, he idolised him, because he had proof of his existence and his “good” deeds.

Unfortunately, I do not subscribe to the idea that the successors (and anyone at the Wammy’s during their time) and L had a found family type of bond, and this is because, as I said in my Wammy’s House analysis/headcanon post, I don’t think L would make the same mistake twice and single them out. Doing this would only put pressure on them, and he can’t have another A situation. Yes, Near and Mello are the best in the institution, so obviously the chosen ones, but making them meet L carves that into stone, meaning that that would make them feel like they have to be him under any circumstance and make others believe they could never reach that position, and if they see L as the epitome of greatness, that means that they can’t be great no matter how much they try.

Of course, A and B are not really canon, but I still believe that L knew not to get involved with them, for other reasons but still, that is true to me. From any angle, creating a bond between them is a weakness – emotionally, strategically, and so on.

Kinda off topic: I am rewriting an old OC x L fic, in which he actually is involved with Mello and Near, like he met them, visited them multiple times and things happened that got him very close to them, and all that they got from these interactions is a face to hate, a flawed individual to judge and criticized, but especially a person. It’s not longer a role. It entails much more and made taking his place way harder. And this was written by me when I was 13 with the intention of it to be wholesome, “look, they are like a family”, but when I went over it a few weeks ago, I realised that Mello and Near could never functionally and efficiently work as L because they have a bond. Whatever. This was just me giving an example.

Moving on. I don’t even think they actually properly met. They only talked via a screen (in the scene in the one shot, Mello and Near don’t even talk actually), and L never showed himself to them, because it would be the wrong move, regardless of B existing or not. It just exposes his appearance, which he must keep a secret from everyone. I also think L didn’t want to be a person to be adored, but a role to be kept alive. I’ve said in one post, but I don’t remember which, that if we take into consideration the way he talked to the kids, he seemed to be actively working against the idea of him being this kind of God.

So, when God died, Mello’s faith was broken again. For the second time, the one that could save them all died, against a being that seemed actually to be the Lord and was going to take over the world.

First and foremost, he felt anger – towards L for creating this myth around him and then just let himself die (because I do believe Mello first thought that L just gave up, before realising his mortality, that he was just a person) and towards himself, for believing in this God, when the first one abandoned him.

From a priest, he turned into a heretic.

I noticed that both Near and Mello very rarely speak about the first L in a personal way, which is weird, because you would expect someone in their position to hold some type of personal feelings towards him, like a priest does towards God, even though they never met Him and only see His work in the world.

Near is not a heretic like Mello, because he does label L as their idol, but Mello does not. Mello doesn’t want to work with Near (a believer) nor with the second L (the fake God). He became his own god, because no one saw things like him, he wasn't weak, and he needed to prove to the world (and himself) that God is not real and self-redress is the only way.

Mello’s war was also against L, in a way; against the ideal that he created that also revealed his own powerlessness, as you said. But as he got closer to his death and as he witnessed Matt getting killed, knowing that he was next (not because he was going to sacrifice himself for the case, but his words to Lidner seem to imply that he use going to use his death to prove Light is Kira before Near), I like to think that he felt closer to L, to his position, and began to understand why God died (had to cite “a car, a torch, a death” by twenty one pilots, which I used to associate with Light but seems to fit Mello more lmao).

Now, I have to ask if this makes sense to you lol. Of course, this takes inspiration from your own opinion, because I do actually like the way you view his character. I don’t usually explore the religious aspect of Death Note, but maybe I should, you know.

I’ll be waiting for your answer to my ask though, ‘cause I am interested to hear more from you regarding the Wammy’s. And of course, I don't mind you dropping by.

Take care!

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