#catra apologists

[catras-witchy-girlfriend]

Sometimes I wish some anti-catra person would be like, "Lol, why do you like Catra then?" When I talk about the reason wlw liking female villains goes so much deeper than just because "haha villain lady hot" because then I could be like, "Glad you asked! Here's a 100 page essay on why I love Catra, will always love Catra, and am a Catra apologist! Featuring in this essay is: lesbophobia, homophobia, mental illness and the neurodivergence of women, cycle of abuse, mean lesbian trope, misogyny, queer coding, trauma, and last but not least, racism!"

But we all know they wouldn't read it because it's easier to think, "You only like Catra because boobie window!" Then to open up the large can of worms that is, "As a black, nurodivergent, disabled, lesbian who's been through the cycle of abuse, has been traumatized, and constantly puts other people above myself, Catra helped me learn to love myself more then Adora ever did."

This was honestly meant to stay in my drafts as an unseen rant, but I'm tired of going to the Shera tag to see people talking shit about Catra and treating her like a villain and like everything was her fucking fault cuz it wasn't.

So if you're one of those people. If you're anti Catra or whatever, don't argue with me, you're not gonna change my mind and I'm not gonna change yours, just save us both the mental trouble and block me!

[turtle-ly]

hurt people hurt people (this is a command)

[succyobsessions]

[fagofgod]

a prominent problem with anti catradora arguments is that they dont seem to realise catra is being actively abused for most of the show. like her abuse isn't, as they say, "a bad childhood". it's not a thing of the past. she's an abuse victim reacting to her circumstances, and her main goal is to strive for (her vision of) safety. her 'lashing out' isn't her past haunting her or whatever. it's a defense reaction to her current abusive situation

[snixx]

I love following a person and seeing they have a dni and it’s all no terfs no racists you know the standard stuff and then out of nowhere I’ll get jumpscared by CATRADORA SHIPPERS

like okay loser calm down I’ll leave I see you’re allergic to awesomeness

[sometipsygnostalgic]

Im trying to chill but i saw someone on reddit make the most inhumane, nasty takes on Adora and i am seething

[sparklecatsndoras]

There’s genuinely people who hate Catra so much they think Shadow Weaver was right in abusing her

[wiseabsol]

Someday, I want to write an essay on why the toxicity of Catra and her relationship with Adora isn't a flaw in the show, but is crucial to what the show is exploring and shouldn't be dragged the way it is. Also, Catra's redemption is just as good as Zuko's, and I have to wonder if a part of why people love Zuko's more is because he's a hot sad boi and Catra is a girl.

[dapperenby13]

My red flag is I’m a Catra, Azula, Jinx, and Claudia apologist

[pandoratheprocrasticreator]

got called an abuse apologist today lads :(

[king-nyx]

Where were you in 2020?

I was being called an abuser apologist and a terrible person by She-Ra fans for saying that I loved Catra's redemption arc

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

yes! i made a separate blog for my spop concerns because my main one was getting flooded lol

I'll keep this short and list out what I'm gonna post in this blog:

catra's "redemption" and what's wrong with it

concerns surrounding catradora

bad writing and inconsistencies within the show

wasted potential of the show

memes about any of the above topics

just a few details about me before you call me a straight white homophobe:

i'm not white, i'm desi.

i'm biromantic and asexual.

i'm genderqueer.

i'm autistic and bipolar.

reasons why c//a is abusive and romanticized by the narrative:

part 1

part 2

this is a safe place for queer people, disabled and neurodivergent people, poc and abuse victims. if you're a catra apologist or someone who thinks c//a is healthy, this is your cue to ignore this blog (unless you are willing to change your mind, in which case, congrats. you have more braincells than 90% of the fandom).

that's it for now!

[spopsalt]

I'm a Catra fan who doesn't ship Catradora, and honestly it's hell looking through her tags. 90% of the stuff is blocked out because no one makes any content of her outside of putting her in the abusive incest ship, and with the other 10%, you have to be careful because half of these people are going to be... like, genuine apologists. IDK, it irks the hell out of me when people woobify villains like the spop fandom does. What's the point of having a villain if you just act like they did nothing wrong??? ngl I feel more comfortable in the #anti catra tags, even though I genuinely enjoy her as a character. Her character has so much more depth than "Catradora cute" (it is not) and "catgirl hot," and it sucks that if you say that, you're branded a hater who just can't handle female villains.

honestly, I do understand why you might like her character, she is complex, and I'm glad you enjoy her. But yeah, the fandom basically ignores everything about her despite that fact that she's Adora's angry cat girl girlfriend. Or people saying she did nothing wrong and is just a poor little meow meow. I'm glad that you feel comfortable looking through the anti catra tag, I hope you have a great rest of your day! (Or night depending on where you are!)

[fagofgod]

hordak apologists who hate catra are some of the weirdest people ive ever encountered

[sometipsygnostalgic]

i'm losing my mind how are there STILL ACTIVE CATRA HATE BLOGS it's been FOUR YEARS how are you still this mad about a female abuse victim!!!!!! how do you STILL not get it!!!!!!!!!!

I have been in enough fandoms to understand that some of the people who stick around the longest are those who act the most scarred after watching the media. It's like stockholme syndrome. Or it's like hating the thing is what gives them drive in the world.

I have also been on the other side of this. I remained a Homestuck blog for a whole four years after the ending made me depressed about Terezi Pyrope, even lasting an additional year and a half after the dogshit epilogues released, through to the demise of Hiveswap and Homestuck^2, before I realised enough was enough and let Adventure Time give me sanctuary again.

But Homestuck had its Gamzee fans who hated the comic and fandom, Adventure Time had its Lemongrab fans who hated the show and fandom, and it seems She-ra has its fair share of antis.

The She-ra antis consist of the following groups, from my observation:

Former fans who got obsessed with some other show and have to bash She-ra because it ain't cool anymore. Usually Owl House fans but can be from anywhere. Their hate is universally connected to propping something else up, and is never done in isolation.

Hordak fans who hate Catra and maybe every other character and crew member and the show. There are a lot of the reverse, Catra fans who hate Hordak, which is part of why this group is so persistent, as a "counter" to this Hordak hate. However, the Catra fans who are Hordak antis MOSTLY do not hate the show (they are just... out of touch with it and generally have bad takes). I've seen one or two extreme cases of Catra apologists accusing Adora, Scorpia, and even Entrapta of abuse, but they were completely alone in their feelings. The Hordak fans who hate Catra tend to also hate Glimmer, Mermista, Adora, Bow, and say that the show is ableist or whatever, but they do not actually harbor much love for Entrapta. Her victimisation is an excuse for their behaviour and they have no understanding of her chaotic character. Do not interact.

Glimmadora fans (the ones who purely seem to exist to make 'Spop Is Abusive' posts). Why the fuck Glimmadora fans hate the show so much, I do not understand. But these are probably the most In-Your-Face of these three groups. While the Hordak fans mentioned above have a lot of similarity to Homestuck Gamzee fans or Adventure Time Lemongrab fans in the weird way they'll hate on the show for doing their blorbo wrong, Glimmadora fans don't have that evidence because they don't really care about Glimmer or Adora. They have absolutely nothing to say about the show, other than that it is Bad. My theory on these Glimmadora fans is that they really liked the Glimmer and Adora ship on a superficial level, and then the show decided to have its Deeper Themes and give Catra and Adora a messy, complicated relationship. There was a lot happening after season 3 where people went "CATRADORA IS REALLY ABUSIVE AND CATRA IS HORRIBLE AND YOU SHOULDNT SHIP HER WITH ANYONE". This period was SO fucking harmful to the fandom that it never recovered, so much work was lost and deleted from AO3. People would say "Glimmadora is a much better ship anyway". But then when season 4 rolled around and, uhh, Glimmer was acting like a little shit all season (for good reason but she really fucked things up with Adora), and Glimmadora crumbled into ash? Well the Glimmadora truthists felt like the show was working against them and that Season 5 was a grand conspiracy to make the Abusive ship Catradora canon!!! The funniest part of this is I sympathise a lot with these feelings. I used to be a Glimmadora truther myself when I watched the show in fall 2021. I was like, "wow, look how nice this ship is. And they go with catradora in the end?? Fucking HOW???". But then seasons 4 and 5 happened and.... yeah, I was disappointed with how Glimmer and Adora's friendship ended up, but I was ENAMORED by the messiness of Catra's character and how raw her and Adora felt about each other even in spite of all the bullshit. I never made excuses about the show being abuse apologising. I analysed it purely in how believable the relationships were and what the intentions of the characters are.

Of these groups, the ones responsible for the most actual SPOP Anti blogs are undoubtedly the Glimmadoras. The only time I've seen something similar, so many antis appearing, was because of Steven Universe ship wars. You have NO IDEA how petty people feel about Lapidot, Amedot, all the dots, all the amethysts. A crew member was chased off the internet over it, or left the internet over the show's own decisions, depending on whether you believe the """screenshots""" that were taken of Zuke's ""private blog""".

[shittysawtraps]

hello she-ra 2018 fan. you keep harassing random teenagers for liking catra by calling them "abuse apologists". you have one hour to apologize before i disconnect your wifi and force you into the real trap: getting a better hobby.