#cesspit that server is

[whamss]

There's something cathartic about having just done a small write-up on troll quadrants and how they function in troll society, and how canon shows them slowly shifting towards a healthier framework towards the end of Homestuck, and then checking into that One Big Homestuck Server and getting to see the same terrible quadrant discussion I always do. Never change. Reading comprehension in the gutter, that entire server

[g1deonthefirst]

every day i fight the impulse to make a discord server for good tlt takes

[nighty-night-nh]

Beating my art block into submission with a Phi doodle ⚠️🧪

Alt colors inspired by @buwkahuiwka 's Phi minecraft skin under the cut!

The colors were too tasty I kinda had to, hope you don't mind the tag!

[pyrriax]

sometimes i remember i take screenshots of quotes i like.

[theyhitthepentagon]

i got banned from the axolotl sun discord because one of the mods thought my fursona was too fat?? and they considered it fetish art . i didnt even get a warning and i gotta wait 60 days to appeal (o_ o; )

I REMEMBER THAT... ima be real i was fighting for my life trying to defend you in a couple peoples dms so you wouldnt get banned cuz it was so unfair. nobody listened to literally anything i said though. everything they said to "prove" you were talking about fetish art in there was literally such a huge stretch. its so fucked and i feel so bad that it happened 😭😭 im so sorry people sexualized your art even after you told them not to

[antonblastdeluxe]

This is your reminder not to join the official p1zza tower discord lmao

[glitterandlashes]

disgust your local israhell supporter today!

[elyfar]

played some swtor for the first time in a while, load into korriban and there's literally 3+ people in general chat giving a dude grief for offering to help new players??

[hypodermicfroggy]

Coincidentally that last post is why I ended up leaving both City of Heroes servers I was originally in, a lot of those people were just utterly nightmarish comic book fans and people with authority complexes.

[facingthenorthwind]

Don't get involved with Wookieepedia

We all know Wookieepedia — it’s the Star Wars wiki, and an invaluable resource for fic writers everywhere. I’m not telling you not to look at Wookieepedia, but I do need to warn you not to get involved with the community. If you do want to edit it, then never join the discord or get involved with the forums (Senate Hall). It’s a cesspit of bigotry, and you cannot change it.

I tried. Along with a very well-known and vocal user named Immi Thrax, we tried to push back against misogyny and queerphobia. We thought we succeeded. You might have seen supposed “progress” on Wook: the addition of pronouns in the infobox, the addition of an anti-discrimination policy and an apology from the male wook admins for historical abuse towards marginalised editors. We did this. We, along with a small group of queer women and nonbinary editors, badgered the admins to write that apology for months, spoon-feeding them the things they needed to address and telling them that the early piss-weak drafts were unacceptable. We demanded infobox pronouns. We demanded an anti-discrimination policy and worked with them to add a glossary. 

And then they ran us off the website.

We had a side server specifically for women and nonbinary people, with a few channels that also contained men we trusted. A woman (who was voted in as an admin after Immi) took screenshots from this private server and then posted them publicly. The screenshots were taken completely out of context and misrepresented their contents. The woman who took the screenshots deleted messages in them to make us look worse. They slandered us and put us in danger, because Immi has been targeted by dangerous corners of the internet before (which they were well aware of), and we were terrified we would be doxxed. All of the men approved of this, forced Immi to resign, and spread blatant lies about us. Wook users attacked us, and it was deemed perfectly acceptable to do so.

When I wrote the initial forum post about sexism and misogyny on the website, Master Fredcerique, one of the admins, told me that he was in fear of losing his job during 2021 because of discord screenshot leaks, and that "Safety for everyone was of utmost importance" to him, hence requesting I not provide usernames for my examples of bigotry. It is clear that Immi, myself and others in those screenshots do not count in this 'everyone'. I wonder why he wanted to protect the perpetrators of misogyny but was happy to endanger women!

As a result of this horrific breach of trust and privacy, every single queer woman and almost every nonbinary wook editor has left the site. We were too radical, and they had to destroy us. Sure, a woman did this, but I don’t think it’s an accident that a cishet woman who self-describes as a Republican in Florida forced the two loud leftist lesbians off the site. And the men approved of everything she’s done and contributed to it. One (1) man (notably not an admin) stood up for us, and he was banned for doing it. 

So don’t join wook. If you do edit, don't trust anyone. Have every single conversation about wook in public, where people can never take your words out of context. Do not participate in DMs, group chats or any wook-related servers, including the official one. Marginalised editors' very existence is a disruption to the status quo of Wookieepedia, and there is every possibility you will be seen as a threat, even if you are not initially treated as one.

[spacechild-glitchypix]

A lot of people are making a lot of public statements considering this is a situation that has pretty much nothing to do with them.

Look, I'm usually one to be pretty civil on conversations like this in public because I generally feel like people are less likely to listen when you're angry and shouting but I'm also acutely aware that none of you are really paying any attention. You're glossing over statements, you're intentionally reading Rose's statements and apologies in bad faith. If you aren't going to have the good graces to truly listen to either Kab or Rose then, respectfully, back away. You're not contributing anything positive to the conversation, you're talking in circles about points already being addressed and claiming they aren't because the answer doesn't suit your narrative

You can think Rose's comments made in the privacy of his own server are unprofessional until the cows come home but, frankly, his professionalism isn't any of your concern unless you're employing him. And, as for the biphobia comments, I'll speak as someone who was literally in those discord screenshots.

The stuff said in Marshie's post is true but, on a larger scale, this was a common discussion in this server. It wasn't started by Rose, it certainly didn't end with Rose, this was an entire server of queer people who were just sick of the heteronormative way some people would develop their MCs. And if you took that as a personal attack then I apologise but I can't help you with your own feelings. We never expected this to reach public eyes, none of us would've actually said this to a person's face about their own MCs. We're not bullies, our words were posted in a public setting without our permission, the fact you people seemed to have missed that (or even claimed that we apparently weren't private enough because somehow we were supposed to just know one of our members was leaking screenshots of our conversations which is a stance I have seen at least one person take) is honestly very telling.

No one should be expected to be 100% polite or civil in their own spaces (this also includes Rose's blog, before one of you fires blossoming-attorney's post at me), we're allowed to have areas where we can speak our own grievance with friends and be hyperbolic without having to worry about people taking our works out of that space to be put completely on blast to the public. Have none of you people ever complained about a boss before???

But more importantly than that, I just think the level of tone-policing and dogpiling and harassment being leveled at one of my friends over a racist smear campaign is fucking appalling. I don't care if you do not think this is racist because race wasn't brought up, if this wasn't racism then why is Rose the only person you people have thought to go after. Why is he the only person that was named, why did no one try to find anyone else in those screenshots.

This fandom is, quite frankly, a racist cesspit, the people who started this harassment campaign by publiclly posting this bullshit on a throwaway reddit account are scum, the people who pushed it without any sort of critical thinking should be deeply ashamed of themselves and every major artist in the community making a statement as to their stance on this whole ordeal needs to back off

This community has destroyed an incredibly important space where me and many others made a number of good friends for nearly a year over the adrenaline rush of jumping on a bandwagon. You've hurt one of my good friends and tried to get him fired from his job to further a racist smear campaign because you didn't like that he's an outspoken black person.

I hope you're fucking proud of yourselves

[butwhatifidothis]

The fact that someone in 2024 can say "a person is bad because the blood from another race mixed with theirs and made them bad" without any shred or irony or self awareness is ghastly.

Probably comes from the idea that they are "good people," so they can't say racist shit or be racist because racism is bad and they are good people.

Which leads to shit like Shandale and multiple other people repeatedly saying shit like "The Nabateans as a race are ontologically evil and deserve the genocide that happened to them and the humans who genocided them were the good guys." "The Nabateans need to have their rights stripped away from them and live as second-class citizens to atone for what other Nabateans did." "The Nabateans are so savage and violent and evil that having their blood mixed with yours makes you evil like them." The Nabateans are evil, so they deserve to be erased. They deserve to be oppressed. They deserve to be killed. All of them. Even the children. No exceptions.

But they're not a "real" race so it's fine to advocate for their genocide. It's fine to cheer on their genociders and wish they were "properly" portrayed as the good guys they clearly are. It's fine to say "only humans should rule over humans" as if that isn't an ear-bleedingly loud dog-whistle for racial supremacy. Shandale is a good person so Shandale can't say Bad Person things, of course.

And the worst part is that Shandale knows what they're saying sounds bad. They fucking hate it whenever anyone with enough nuts in that cesspit of a discord directly tells them "hey yo this is some racist ass shit you're spewing out, can you like, stop?" They and the people who agree with them pull the "YOU'RE pulling the real world into this, and THAT'S so distasteful and bad!!" because Shandale knows that they only have that cover to hide behind. Shandale isn't saying what they're saying because they aren't aware of what they're saying or don't know why what they're saying is bad, they're saying what they're saying because they found the race they can scapegoat into getting away with saying this.

They all very clearly desperately want to say this shit. They will all go on for hours upon hours at a time vehemently going to bat for this hateful rhetoric, to the point that they will quite literally make shit up about what the Nabateans have done to make them evil. They owned slaves! They destroyed culture! They were tyrants! All of them! Genuinely every single one of them! All that shit is the CORNERSTONE to Shandale and their buddies' rhetoric, and they fucking made it up! It makes you wonder why they're so desperate for this clearly untrue thing to be true, and none of the answers to that question do them any favors to put it kindly.

And everyone in that server with the means to kick Shandale and all the other people who are clearly fucking racist and are using Nabateans as a scapegoat to vent their clearly fucking racist views would rather DM me to tell me ~oh so kindly~ that I should stop airing their moldy tattered laundry (in exchange for the mods following their rules of their server that they've been ignoring for fucking years) than do fucking ANYTHING about the mod that is peddling the racism. Shandale and their buddies don't need any shred of awareness - or more accurately, any shred of acknowledgement - because they know the second they bare their asses to the world the other mods will fucking scramble to cover for them. It's all beyond pathetic and disgusting

[bigmfrat]

Dude, there truly is something special about this website man I've been getting recommended a blog of someone from the old squid server for literal MONTHS and despite seeing their icon every single day I log in here, I really felt like they would have had me blocked. Decided to check a bit ago because it has been sitting in the back of my mind for a while and yea, I am indeed blocked. Why tf is tumblr recommending me someone who has me blocked like, hello?? Tumblr being a drama-filled cesspit truly is like, 70% artificially cultivated by the website itself and 30% unhinged userbase. And why do I still see art from people that I have blocked? What even is the point of the block feature if I'm still able to see people's posts? I am haunted by thirst trap pants boy. Good God what a wretched hell site. It's like they want people to start shit. Anyways, to the poor bastards who have me blocked, I'm so damn sorry if Tumblr is still shoving my rank-ass blog in your face and I mean that genuinely.

[lakesbian]

the world would be so beautiful if there was a good worm discord server that wasn't a zionist cesspit or some other shit where i could post one million liveblog thoughts an hour and have real-time conversation. but at least i have tumblr book club time

[pandoraparadise]

BEGGING the alterhuman community to stop using Therian Territory on YouTube as a source of content/education/entertainment. They were in inappropriate contact with minors and a zoophile. They admitted to all of this in a now deleted halfass apology video. Their Discord server is a cesspit of misinformation on both systems and therians, and many mods have had allegations of their own gone unaddressed from Thorn or the other staff.

Thankfully I don't see too many people reccommending Thorn anymore as they did a few years ago, but I know younger therians often will just google 'therian youtubers' and Thorn will come up. Here is a short but straightforward video documenting what they have done.

Syscourse hidden below cut for those uninterested

They also support endos and encourage people to create tulpas, which is a closed cultural practice. A minor trying to participate in this can be incredibly dangerous to their mental state, regardless of if you believe in nontraumagenic plurality or not.

[shslquestionmark]

*rubs temples* Oh my god undertale....undertale...undertale multiverse fandom my BELOATHED. This involves a lot of discourse I hope that's okay.

Though mostly the bullshit involves the popular au blogs and how the fandom parasocialed it's way into a complete and utter cesspit. I now only keep in contact with one artist friend and then distantly. I can't even go into his server anymore because the drama is TOO EXHAUSTING. Partially my own fault, something about that place makes me get too attached and involved and I hate every second of it. People were stealing ideas left and right despite the original creator's wishes like they were fucking DISNEY just because they had a few thousand followers. Like...popular or not they were just SOME GUYS and yet peopel were treating them like major multibillion companies or someshit. And THEN whenever people made their own stuff it was all just. Focused on the skeletons. Like

THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD CHARACTERS IN THAT GAME???? YOU COULD MAKE CHARACTERS OF??? BUT YOU CHOSE THE TUMBLR SEXYMAN???? not even Papyrus half the time though he got more attention than I DUNNO. FUCKIGN UNDYNE? TORIAL? ALPHYS???? ANY OF THE GOOD CHARACTERS YOU JUST MAKE ANOTHER FUCKING. SKELETON OC??????

Like yeah oh we have this game that introduces a new species that has a lot of flexibility and creativity but NO WE'RE GOING TO ONLY FOCUS ON ONE GUY ONE SKIN FOREVER AND EVER UGH......

Not to mention teh SEXISM OH BOY I CAN GO ON A WHOLE TIRADE ABOUT THE SEXISM or maybe just one paragraph I dunno I overestimate my ability to rant sometimes but OH IT MAKES ME SEETH JUST THINKING ABOUT IT.

I really love Undertale, but I never got into all the AUs. In retrospect, it does seem very strange that these whole universes are created just so the whole cast be composed of only Sans.

Tell me about the sexism, please.