#dumb fucks with no critical thinking skills tag

[starstofillmydream]

This may fall upon deaf ears/ears unwilling to listen, but as we go into the last two episodes of TBB ever, the fandom needs to seriously clean up their attitude. I've been watching shit go down from the sidelines and trying not to get involved with the drama—people being so mean to one another and bullying one another into believing their headcanons (which are OPINIONS) as canon truth—and I've been disgusted with some people's behavior on here. I'm not sure what about TBB S3 in particular has brought the worst out in people, but it's so annoying and it sucks the fun out of being part of a fandom community.

So please (and this should be common sense):

For the love of God, BE KIND. If you see something harmless you disagree with (i.e., personal headcanons and think pieces, no matter how stupid and uninformed they may seem to you), move on. Don't react because it almost always ends in a nasty fight. Be mature. I've seen people bullying others into accepting their personal headcanons as canon (e.g., the "Tech is alive" and "Cody is on Tatooine" truthers), so please don't do that either. Differing headcanons can coexist in a fandom space because they're headcanons, another word for opinions. It's not the objective, concrete truth. Don't force them on other people if they don't agree with you.

If you see any racist, homophobic, sexist, and/or xenophobic comments about the characters (e.g., I've been seeing some fucking awful takes on Phee as of late), shut them down. Don't be a bigot.

Stop insulting people's intelligence as your primary counterargument to people's takes. Everyone's critical thinking skills (I've refrained from using the term "media analysis skills" because TikTok has seemed to make it lose its meaning, in my opinion) can be improved upon, my own included. It's a learning curve and we're all growing. Be self-aware in that regard. It's a logical fallacy—the ad hominem fallacy—to attack the arguer and not the argument, so it just looks dumb and makes you look bad.

Tag your spoilers. #tbb spoilers seems to be the most widely used, so I'd go that route.

If you have anything else to add to the list, please do! I want the unity and respect back in the fandom again, especially as we reach the bittersweet end of a beautiful show that has brought us all together as friends.

[notyouraryang0dd3ss]

on the thg swiftie stuff . the most insane thing ive ever seen as someone who frequents the thg tag on tumblr is someone made an edit wherein they were like 'what if katniss everdeen became a musician after the war and was effectively the taylor swift of panem' and they made album edits for every ts album but using pictures of jenlaw instead and in the post they were like 'its just crazy to me how much of taylor swifts discography perfectly aligns with the type of music katniss would write i HAD to make this edit' and im like . Did you forget the part at the end of mockingjay where katniss was like um id rather be dead actually than share my singing with the world . thats something thats just for me . also... katniss writing taylor's songs... i know she's fictional but literally what does taylor swift's lived experiences have in common with katniss everdeen's . be so fucking for real rn .

i am telling you my anon in arms swifties do not fucking read. literally everytime ive read an ooc thg character analysis its ALWAYS by a swifties. these bitches pick and choose traits abt these characters JUST TO JUSTIFY the ts edit they want to make. THEYRE INSANE!!!!

also katniss would NEVER write self victimizing love songs 12 (or however many albums she has) albums straight!!!! katniss hates herself and literally thinks she doesn’t deserve peeta what!!!!! she is so self sacrificial and she HATES the spotlight and she hates performing for the capitol she would never ever ever ever be the taylor swift of panem!!!!!

ugh anon at least you get my pain. swifties r so dumb and ruin fandom with their self insert of their own interests and personality in their fave characters instead of possessing any critical thinking skills and view and appreciate the characters as they are. i think its because swifties can only humanize characters if they insert themselves into these characters. horrible

[xx-slug-xx]

//rant where I just go off about the recent antis who have been going around. There’s been so many that I’ve seen, so it’s not about any particular users tbh. Like, my dash is filled with different antis and I wanted to say something about it lol

The recent rise of certain antis not knowing how to spell, using abbreviations for almost every word they type, and talking like they can’t be any older than 15 is really concerning tbh.

And when I say “taking like they can’t be any older than 15”, I mean they lack any sort of argument or desire to have one while using patterns in their text that is shocking similar to middle schoolers to early high schoolers using (all the way down to the slang, abbreviations, and punctuations). Everything boils down to “lol kys pedo 💀”. Like, do they not realize how dumb they sound? Do they not realize that every anon ask I get that sounds at all like this, I just delete it and move on with my day? Nobody takes them seriously besides the antis who are on the same wavelength as them, and that’s not something they should be proud of (they are proud btw). And they really think they are getting somewhere with it. Really it’s just annoying :/ I used to be an internet troll back in my day (13 to be exact lol), and what made it fun wasn’t the “hahaha I hate you” aspect of it, it was the debate. Well, for me at least. So I really don’t understand this whole thing that these new antis who have been showing up on my dash lately who have absolutely no point to be made, contradict themselves, and don’t even bother to look at anything other than a label someone uses. What do they gain from this? Like seriously. There’s no gain from my perspective when nobody is taking what you say with any seriousness and your just a minor annoyance.

I really am concerned though, and this is regardless of this new wave’s actual ages, because I’m not assuming that they are minors without proof of such (I have reason to have high suspicion that they are minors, but that’s not relevant) (and if they are minors, who fucking told them it was at all ok to interact with people who they think are pedophiles?). But like, do folks not realize that harassment with no real logic behind it just makes them look stupid when it’s done in this fashion? Like, harassment in general is dumb, but this is worse for some reason imo. I’m in awe tbh, like, /srs on this one. I’m concerned about people’s basic literacy skills and their ability to think about things rationally. If this wave consisted of people who had valid criticism and wanted to hold a debate about the topics at hand (which, personally, I love the antis who are like this because I love holding serious discussion on complicated topics), then it would be a completely different story. But there’s been nothing but stupidity clogging up my dash lately, and I’m kinda annoyed :/

I’m also waiting for the antis who have been perusing the proship tags lately to see this and say something lmao

[idleglowingpixels]

talk about Collector

WHYYYYYYYYYY okay now that I got that off my chest let's get serious LMAO

Before I dive in too deep, to any other ppl reading, THIS IS YOUR FAIR WARNING IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ ANY CRITICISM OF TOH. Something that is really apparent in this fandom particularly is that a lot of ppl refuse to allow and accept genuine criticism discussions, dumbing it down to personal biases, misinterpretations of the text (or in this case, the show), and proclaiming "It's intentional that the show did that!" every time someone breathes something negative about it. This is ESPECIALLY annoying with the "Blame Disney/the shortening" nonsense -- a key skill in television writing is to be capable of working with the allotted time that the studios give you. After they were told Season 3 got cut short, they still had 11 22-minute episodes of Season 2 and all three 40+ minute episodes of Season 3 to conclude the story in a satisfying way.

Seeking and reading criticism posts outside of the general tags, ignoring warnings on posts that give forewarnings, then getting mad and upset that someone criticized your comfort show is generally an unhealthy behavior, especially if you're not in a good mental state. If you can't take people criticizing something you enjoy, and more-so if you deem it your comfort media, and feel the need to bother them because you made yourself upset reading their posts, you've got a lot of soul searching to do. That, or maybe you should log off until you can handle it.

Also, obviously, spoilers ahead for TOH, as well as Amphibia because these shows parallel a lot more than I want them to. :')

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I have a LOT to say about The Owl House from a critical and writing perspective, and I feel like the show is EXTREMELY overhyped for what it actually is. I feel its sister show Amphibia executed much of the same/similar themes better, and that's not even a bias thing. Just from the way both shows are written, you can tell which one feels more competently structured from a narrative standpoint (and, let's be honest, which one is actually funny).

Okay enough about general opinion, let's get to Collector. From a character design perspective, GOD I love this little guy, both the reflection/shadow form and the actual form are distinct from the rest of the cast. I'm a big Sun and Moon design/symbolism enjoyer (Sun and Moon from FNAF, Sun and Blake from RWBY, Celestia and Luna from MLP:FiM, etc.) so these types of characters are always welcome. And while their voice annoys me personally it ABSOLUTELY fits them, so no matter how annoying I find it I don't think I'd want them to have any other voice.

But that, unfortunately, is the only props I can give to Collector.

The show is FULL of redeemed antagonists that range from okay (I'd like to think Amity was decent enough and Hunter was alright but definitely should have been introduced earlier so his redemption was a slow burn but this post isn't about them so I'll end this note here) to "what the actual fuck" (Idc what anyone says, there is no excuses PERIOD, Lilith's redemption was the absolute worst redemption arc I think I've ever seen AND I'VE SEEN CATRA'S), and Collector is very much on the lower end of that scale. We hardly see them overall and their character writing is rushed beyond belief -- and again, I'd like to reiterate that that is ENTIRELY on the writing team for the show. Disney and the shortening DID NOT DECIDE TO KEEP COLLECTOR IN. The writing staff were aware of the time they had left and made the decision to shoehorn them in and expect everyone to just be okay with it.

From a writing perspective, they bloat the story exponentially and 100% should have been left in the drafts or saved for future content like what Dana said she might do if she is able to through books and such. If we only get hints of the other Collectors, this one should have STAYED hints with them.

We have essentially no significant amount of time with them outside of Hollow Mind and the season 2 finale before season 3, and what we DO have of them in season 2B is so drastically different I'd consider 2B Collector and 3 Collector as two different characters entirely. And before you tell me, "They're different because sun/moon symbolism!" "They're different because Belos and King influence them differently!" etc. etc., don't waste your time. Yes, those are good explanations as to why they feel so different between seasons, but that does not make the writing of the character inherently good. Allow me to elaborate:

In S2B, of what little we see of Collector, they are extremely sadistic in nature, and while they appear childish the writing of that lack of care for others is ABUNDANTLY CLEAR. And it seemed that way even as Belos first encountered him as Philip in the flashback episode. There, they weren't yet "influenced" by Belos and his plans; hell, he hardly had an actual plan yet.

Skip ahead to Hollow Mind, easily the best episode of Season 2 imo, and Collector is taunting Belos, mocking him and his schemes. Saying things like "Ooh, you were mad!" and "I'm starting to think you make those [grimwalkers] just to destroy them. You have fun with it, admit it!"

I cannot find any reasonable explanation as to how or why Belos would influence Collector into doing such things. Why would he want a little pain in the ass making fun of him for hundreds of years? And by his response to Collector's taunt about the grimwalkers and Hunter, "Of course I don't, Collector. It hurts every time he chooses to betray me," he took offense to their words, but kept his tone from shifting to anger as he does with everyone else because of Collector's power.

Belos doesn't want Collector thinking he doesn't like them because of their abilities, but he does want to stay on their good side for information. For knowledge of spells. And he puts up with Collector's annoyances because of that.

Essentially, that wasn't something Belos taught them or influenced them to do. All Collector knows is to adapt to their friends' behaviors, yes, but Belos is like, over 400 years old. I don't know about you, but I doubt with the way he speaks and how he's written that he would taunt his underlings in the same childish vain as Collector, and do so enough for Collector to pick up and mimic that behavior.

Now to the finale, their appearance is pretty much just them getting duped by Belos and sent into the depths of the titan skull, where King ever-so-conveniently finds them, making the pinky swear that releases them.

They maintain that mocking attitude even after Belos betrays them, calling King "boring" for calling them Mr. Collector and feeling generally disinterested by King before he promises a game to play. And even after they're released, they continue the attitude further with the whole "I remember someone throwing me off a bridge...I'm not angry, though!" bit, only to send Belos to his "death" moments after, deeming it as a game of tag. They've seen Belos kill grimwalkers first hand, fully aware that their lives mean nothing, and replicated the behavior by returning the favor to Belos (or so they thought). Their lack of care continues when they nearly try to do the same thing to the Hexsquad, people who didn't even do anything to them, before King stops them, changing the subject before they can cause further harm.

After stopping the draining spell, Collector continues the destructive maliciousness they have all the way to the end of the episode, and that's the impression of them we're left with. They were sadistic, uncaring and childish, but only learned the behavior of killing from Belos -- even though Belos didn't actually die, the intent was to kill him, and they were fully planning to continue with the Hexsquad.

And then...We get to Season 3.

Just a side-note, I think it's a safe assumption to say the first 2 seasons of The Owl House took place between roughly 2 months, as Luz was outside waiting to leave for a summer camp after the school year ended before initially arriving in the demon realm. Going off of that assumption, in Part 1 Luz returned to school as she returned to the human realm, presumably in late August/early September due to her living in Connecticut. And since Part 1 takes place in the timespan of about 3-7 days, the last day being Halloween, the timeskip only brought us about 2 more months ahead. Keep this in mind.

After Luz and co. return to the demon realm in Part 2 -- objectively the worst episode of the season -- we already see King's influence on Collector since they turned everyone into puppets instead of actively injuring or killing them when they don't comply. Still bad? Yes. But from how it looks in Part 3 with the Hexsquad, it seems more like the puppets' consciences are just comatose or an alternative to sleeping, maybe in a REM-like state. But of course, the show didn't have enough time to explain that further over all the nonsense in Part 2.

Anyway, when we see Collector in Part 2, they're still being childish, which is unfortunately the only thing that stays consistent with this character. They then say two lines that were the most god-awful writing decisions I've seen in a hot minute, and this show is STOCK FULL of really bad "this is peak humor LAUGH" moments like this.

They say that Eda has this "cool aunt vibe" and such, which sounds like one of those "character dynamics/tropes" posts on social media like Tumblr and whatnot. It comes off as really pretentious in the writing, and was shockingly unfunny to hear for a show that calls itself a comedy. Another line that frustrates me, more-so for lore reasons, is when they ask Odalia to make pizza bagels, when it was previously stated that human food is inaccessible to Luz during her time in the demon realm. So not only is it contradicting that whole thing (Eda actively struggled to find food for Luz that she could eat), how would they or King even know what one is or how to actually make one??

It seems like a small point to get heated over, but it once again feels like one of those stupid one-liners that one of the writers thought was the funniest shit they've ever thought up and kept it in because they knew die-hard fans would just laugh it off and brush it off as a joke, and that the writers forgetting about Eda's maternal struggle to feed her adopted kid is Disney's/the shortening's fault because they're at fault for everything wrong with the show...and not the ppl who wrote it.

Regardless, this whole shtick is extremely out-of-character for the way they had spoken in Season 2, and from what I can recall (I'm not gonna rewatch the entire show for the sake of a single post), King never talks like this. Luz does around him, but he himself doesn't talk like this.

I've discussed with friends before about this, including Robin (the one who asked me to talk about this), but from Part 2 onward Collector gets the same Luz-like writing every character that gets redeemed suddenly dawns out of the blue. I started calling it luz-ification, but it doesn't just happen to Collector.

It happened to Hunter, where his more cocky and ego-centric dialogues from early 2A was dropped for a more "comedic" personality and an anxiety-ridden character, though it's later eluded to that his cocky attitude was him masking his true self, so I try to keep it to that perspective.

But this happened to Lilith as well, where she suddenly started acting like "Cool Aunt Lilith" IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING HER ADMITTING TO CURSING EDA AND ALLOWING HER CAPTURE. WITH NO CONSEQUENCES TO BE FACED OTHER THAN THE CURSE SPLIT WHICH IS HARDLY UTILIZED IN THE SHOW.

(Side-tangent: Characters facing little to no consequences for their actions is something that goes on so much in this show but this is long enough already and I really don't like talking about this shit for long 'cause I could be using my time on better pieces of media, I'm sure there's plenty of posts explaining this point elsewhere by ppl who enjoyed TOH more than me)

Hell, it even happened to Amity for a hot minute. For some moments in the show she's written really off-character and saying things that just completely contradict how she's typically written, but then goes back to the more sassy and balanced character later on.

This post has gotten WAY longer than I wanted it to be, but to keep me from spending even more time on this, Part 2 shows a drastically different Collector, to the point that they do not by any means have the same character writing as they had before. They got luz-ified. Using social media lingo they couldn't even have access to in canon, and being written to quite literally just sound like a mini-me of Luz with the more obnoxious undertones of the childish thing.

Point is, they mimic these behaviors of Luz that they wouldn't even have reasonable access to learning from, because she's in the human realm for almost all the time after their release. It only makes sense in Part 3, when Luz is actually there for them to see her behaviors in action, but even that is so contrived and rushed that it feels unrealistic and narratively unnecessary. Remember what I said before about the timeskip only being 2 months? Yeah, 2 months isn't nearly enough time for a character to fundamentally change who they are as drastically as Collector.

Now to the part where I talk about Amphibia really quick and mention how it did the whole "having an alternative threat acting as a mini-boss" thing a million times better than this shit ever could. King Andrias, paralleling Collector for this particular scenario, is shown relatively early on that he's an antagonist to the audience. It's later revealed as a plot twist not to the audience, but to the characters, who least expected it. They don't waste time trying to throw off the audience with red herrings or telling its audience "He's not a bad guy, he's totally not going to be evil later on." They just show the audience he's evil and keep the story moving.

He's given enough time to feel like this ominous, looming threat, and True Colors masterfully showed how messed up this guy is and the lengths he is willing to go to ascend to the Core and cheat death, just as the souls within the Core had. His motive to avoid death and return Amphibia to the world-conquering ideologies from centuries' past is what made him such a love-to-hate villain. And the motive to cheat death in a children's cartoon? Metal as hell. The Core also parallels Belos here, and further on in Season 3, being the one manipulating Andrias through his fear of death in order to make him do what they want him to.

In the third season, Andrias continues his work by the Core's demands, only giving up in the final battle when he's read a letter from someone he had considered a friend long ago, which admittedly didn't have much set-up but it was at least the focus of an entire episode prior to the big pre-finale.

At the end of the series, he's shown to have moved on, allowing himself to age naturally and to stop using technology to keep him in pristine condition for eternity. He accepted the natural cycle of life, and in turn accepted that he will come to pass one day. He wasn't a perfectly written character, but considering what it's being compared to? Leagues better.

Like I said before, TL;DR, Collector is the bloatware of The Owl House's plot. They were shoved in as a last minute addition because they were the writers' "precious bean silly goose little gremlin blorbo" that they couldn't just keep in the drafts with the rest of the collectors. So instead of maintaining what little integrity the show's writing had to begin with and follow through to the end with the Day of Unity plotline being the series finale (Which was VERY OBVIOUSLY WHAT THEY WERE GOING FOR), they essentially made a side quest distraction that dragged the story on for longer than it needed to, wasting the audience's time.

I'm not mad that the Collector exists, I just find that their inclusion in the series did more harm than good for the writing. The show has a serious issue with giving screentime to unnecessary characters like the miscellaneous Hexside students, giving characters too much screentime (The biggest offender for this is Amity, there's more episodes centered around her than Hunter, Willow and Gus combined) and not giving ACTUALLY necessary characters enough screentime (Looking at you, Emerald Trio).

I really want to rewrite TOH, and if I feel the need to rewrite a show, it's usually because there's too much fundamentally wrong with it for me to give it anything higher than a 6/10 overall. But I've already got a whole AU and a whole rewrite in the works for two other series I care wayyyyy more about, so that's gonna have to be left to other writers in this fandom.

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[tori-artemis]

I don't usually make posts when I'm upset about something (or like, at all) but honestly I'm just. Really sick of the Loki fandom as a whole. Like I'm just tired of all the pettiness and bullshit. And tbh it's on both ends of the Loki series/Ragnarok split. Both pros and antis.

This isn't so much a vague post as it's a vent post for me. You see, I've been having these feelings about the Loki fandom overall for months now, and I've seen certain posts from the positive side where I just want to - jump in and say something, or at least speak for myself as an ""anti"" (hate that word btw) bc the amount of generalizing I've seen that goes on over there wrt ppl who dislike the show is just - well it's fucking frustrating. Like it annoys me bc I've heard every dumb overgeneralization since the show first came out, from not wanting Loki to move on bc we're oh-so-traumatized to we're just bitter bc the show didn't go the way we wanted/our hcs of Loki weren't validated, etc.

I think one that annoyed me the most was the claim that ppl who hate/dislike Sylvie as a character do so out of misogyny. And like - maybe there's some truth there wrt how the character/actress tend to be bombarded with gendered slurs, and yes that's not cool, but I've never referred to Sylvie or Sophia as any slur. (In fact I don't even hate Sylvie - what I do hate is how the writers have set her up as a "superior" contrast to Loki, which to me seems very intentional on their part, particularly wrt the Trauma Olympics™ as in "Sylvie had it so much harder" 🙄 - but I digress). Yet I can't help but feel like I'm being lumped in the "antis are misogynists" bin every time I read any of those posts from the pro side, simply bc I dislike the way a character was utilized. The way those posts are written, the way they sound - it's very black and white, overgeneralizing an entire group of fans, there's no nuance or side notes or disclaimers of "hey - I know not all of y'all are like this, this is just about some I've encountered" - not even in the tags, nothing. And I've just wanted so badly to jump in and say: "hey, anti here and I'm not like that" but I refrain, bc I've grown so tired of all the fandom infighting and discourse that I usually don't have the energy to get into it. So when I see someone from that side of fandom jump on a post and say how they dislike being overgeneralized as a fan, and how they feel like they're being misrepresented, or condescended to... I can't help but feel kinda upset by that, ngl. Part of me just wants to say "yes it sucks, but recognize that your side (if not you yourself) does it too. Some of you folks do it too."

Like I've read posts implying/stating that antis who hate the show lack critical thinking skills - and like, look, there might be a bit of truth wrt, say, calling Sylvie an outright abuser (and even I've been a little guilty of agreeing to view her as a person with toxic traits as opposed to the enemy-to-lovers trope she clearly falls into - tho I still can't really fault myself for not being able to take that romance seriously due to how damn rushed and forced it felt - but that's besides the point). But there's just something about the way a lot of these posts are worded, like yes some posts are pretty reasonable, but others are practically dripping with condescending sentiment (for lack of better words) as if we're fucking stupid for having emotional reactions to media as opposed to critical reactions, when isn't that the point of media and art, to illicit emotions? Like yes, the story might be trying to say something (and it might epically fail in doing so, which is how I view the show overall) but it's also meant to move ppl. And if it fails to do so, or it garners an unintended reaction, or the characterization is too inconsistent or the story telling itself is rushed/filled with inconsistencies then can you really blame fans for, well, being blindsided by disappointment/their emotions as opposed to critically analyzing it? And yes I know this is a matter of opinion, but still.

(Like sometimes a story can be extremely well written overall, and very well thought out and fans will just be oblivious to, choose to ignore or even outright refuse to pick up on the symbolism within a story, or the internal motivations/conflicts within a character, or how a character progresses/character arcs in general. Sometimes fans will even completely and intentionally misread a character in their entirety, and the role they play within a story, no matter how skilled and how excellent the writing is within a piece of art. And sometimes fans will just overall fail to realize the major themes/hints that a writer carefully lays out. Yes this is a thing, and one I've been made aware of in the particular fandom that I'm about to join.)

But then there's stories that are just... lazily/half-heartedly written at best, and so I just don't understand where pro stans get off by being condescending to ppl like me who just couldn't be immersed due to all those flaws in storytelling. Especially when I didn't get enough out of it to even see where a lot of these conclusions fans seem to have drawn from it. Like there are some inconsistencies within the story itself, there are things that just don't make a whole lot of sense, there are many contradictions, I didn't just make them up. And again I know, everyone interprets media differently, but I don't really see what a lot of pro fans have taken from the series, bc I personally don't think its there. And I really don't appreciate being thought of as some kind of imbecile for not "getting it" when the media in question is, objectively... not all that great tbh. And I'm being absolutely neutral when I say that, like I'm literally not even hating here.

And like I could've easily have turned around and made a bunch of posts stating how pro fans are "stupid" for putting so much thought into a piece of media I personally find to be stupid or just lacking in general, but I haven't. Bc one: that's a shitty thing to do to ppl, and two: it wouldn't even be true bc so many ppl who I consider very intelligent have enjoyed this show, and do put a lot of thought into analyzing it, so despite me not really seeing where they're coming from I want to respect that. And look, it's not like I haven't had those presumptuous thoughts or knee jerk reactions, bc yeah I am in an echo chamber too, and I'm no saint - I'm definitely human and I've had some overgeneralized, uncharitable takes. But I recognize this about myself, I don't post that shit. Which is why I get so upset when I see so many other fans do just that.

Also there is a definite misuse of the depiction of torture, which is used to convey certain themes, and that's very unfortunate, and IMO very bad writing/storytelling. I probably would've been a little more charitable towards the series overall if the Sif-beatdown timeloop scene had been scrapped altogether like the writers seriously should've considered doing (due to the fact that torture has so many misconceptions and is grossly excused in the majority of media which has unfortunate real world consequences) and instead focus more on Loki confronting his fear of being alone, if that truly is what the intention for that scene was. Like yes, some antis might go overboard wrt the messaging within the show, but when it comes to things like the atrocious time loop scene... that's not a made up thing we just happen to pull out of nowhere, that's something the writers put in there and therefore, yeah that's pretty fucked.

Then on the other side I'll find myself liking a post from a negative series fan bc I'll agree with the overall sentiment of it, only to unlike it right after reading the tags bc they've said something like "ppl who like this show/movie/etc are stupid" or "if you ever defended or even enjoyed TR fuck you" - and like??? WTF. I understand disliking the show or whatever but why the hell would you brush over an entire group of real, actual people as "idiots" for simply liking a piece of media??? Like - do I think the show was a disjointed mess? Yeah, I do. Do I think it was poorly written? Yes. Do I even think the reasoning behind a lot of these writing decisions was really fucking stupid on the creators part (or at the very least, that they failed to convey their ideas clearly)? Absolutely. But that doesn't mean anyone who's ever enjoyed the show is stupid for doing so, and I say this as someone who does have the knee-jerk reaction to go "how could you like that show, it sucked so much!"

But like, at the end of the day I understand that ppl take different things out of media. And just bc you find something so stupid or unwatchable, doesn't mean others will, and that's okay bc ppl are different and have different tastes and IDK how ppl don't fucking get that??? Like why is this even a hot take when it's literally just a fact???

It's shit like this that makes me feel like leaving the fandom all together. Which I don't really want to do, bc despite everything wrong with fandom and despite my own personal disappointment with the latest Loki/Thor franchise installments I still really love Loki as a character, and I still want to write fic revolving him. I even still want to make friends within the Loki fandom bc that's literally why I created this blog in the first place, to befriend other Loki fans, like I could've easily stayed being a lurker within the fandom but regardless I think at this point it's farfetched to want this bc the fandom's just way too split and way too hostile and way too fucking eager to be uncharitable and condescending af. And I'm just tired. I'm just... really really tired of the pettiness, the condescending attitude a lot of fans seem to fucking have for anyone who might think differently from them.

I'm tired of the gatekeeping - on both sides. It's on both sides. Because saying "real Loki fans would never like/defend TR/the show" and "how anyone can claim to be a Loki fan if they hate him/his own show" aren't so far apart from each other, both sentiments basically say the same thing, just from polarized viewpoints.

And I wish more fans would just recognize that.

[pwnyta]

I miss the days of critical thinking skills and understanding character nuance. So one of the latest Hazbin Hotel eps has Alastor threaten and intimidate fave drunken catboy Husk (after he insulted and disrespected Alastor, a demon who literally owns Husk's /soul/ and has killed demons for less)

And people are so fuckin huffy about it. We're getting "Alastor Critical" tags and other dumb nonsense

Like, my guys, they are all sinner demons in HELL. We don't know what Husk even did to get into hell, we don't know what he was like before Alastor won his soul in a poker game.

Does Husk deserve the abuse? No, of course not. Not to victim blame but he IS the one who directly insulted Alastor KNOWING what he's like. Alastor has killed demons for less, he's owned your soul for YEARS, you KNOW how he is and he's already in a fairly bad mood, so like, why push his buttons?

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

Yeah I guess its sort of a... what are you expecting from demons from hell?

And frankly Ive been around drunks... IDK who Alastor is but bitch work. Drunk people are so fucking insufferable. If I were slightly meaner Id threaten them too.

[heyharoldsboo]

Heres the tweet:

i highly recommend blocking every percy stan u encounter bc it’s literally like arguing w a fuck ass trump supporter, they have no arguments just conspiracy theories these ppl are actual fkn idiots and i’m not saying that lightly like they’re actually stupid

lol… i am the furthest you could be from trump supporter. I am alos not a dumb teenager lacking critical thinking skills

lol I like how they think we have conspiracy theories, but they believe in fake rag magazine articles and any lie that will keep their hate for Percy as justifiable in their minds.

Most of us in PercyNation are adults, with full time jobs and critical thinking and reading skills. They're kids throwing a tantrum. That's the big difference lol

Also I am so happy that my spamming of Percy content on his twitter tag is making haters angry. That's how I felt for ages when they were talking shit against him.

[genderdryad]

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- i don’t have a set dni anymore. i’ve found that they really don’t matter and if i don’t like your vibes, i’ll block you. simple as that.

-though, i will say this now: i don't tolerate any sort of lesbophobia here. i'm sick of dumb motherfuckers trying to redefine an identity they're not even a part of, just because they can't fathom the idea of someone not wanting to fuck a man. mspec "lesbians" don't exist and people who think so are lesbophobic. if you interact with me and you're a mspec "lesbian" or supporter, i will block you.

- anyone is able to use my terms, reblog flags for safe keeping, and use my flags in icons. (so long as they give me credit. just because you don’t like me or my views doesn’t mean you can’t give me credit.)

-i do allow my flags/terms to be put up on pinterest, just credit me.

-i also do nsft flags. i'm an adult, i get to do whatever i please on my blog.

- if you wish to get my attention in any way: please send me an ask. i notice those first and foremost (if i’m on mobile, which i am 70% of the time), so i’ll answer any questions there. do not send a reply or DM first, because i will likely not notice it.

-also if you degrade my intelligence in any way in any sort of tag, reply, or ask, it will be an immediate block. i do not need neanderthals that lack critical thinking skills to insult my intelligence- i deal with that enough irl. i don't need an overgrown toddler throwing a tantrum at me in my inboxes as well.

[crossovereddie]

Something about this fandom that always pisses me off is how some of you repeatedly call people dumb and say ‘you don’t have critical thinking skills’ but also use the ‘it’s just a show’ excuse whenever someone has a different opinion than you.

Maybe some people don’t wanna analyze a 42 minute tv weekly and just wanna watch it for fun??? Because it is just a tv show.

I’ve never seen a fandom so against criticism before. Some of you need to realize your condescending rants about how annoying the negativity is or how dumb people are is actually what is making the fandom not enjoyable. You don’t let people have other opinions other than ‘this show is so fun I love it so much’ and that’s what causes the drama bc when someone posts anything other than that YOU automatically shoot them down and cause the fandom drama. It’s on y’all the same people who get upset at the fandom drama with your ‘big blogs’ constantly making condescending posts to make other people feel less than and over what???? A tv show????

And on the other end, jfc stop sending people your unwanted opinions via anon. If you see a blog is enjoying something and you aren’t why the fuck would you send them your opinions??? They don’t care!! You have a blog so just vent on there. You don’t even have to tag anything. But going to someone’s inbox just to rant about something they obviously won’t agree with is just not needed.

[pluttskutt]

10 Things Steddie

»ao3«

Fandom: Stranger Things

Relationships: Eddie Munson / Steve Harrington, Robin Buckley & Steve Harrington

Characters: Eddie Munson, Steve Harrington, Robin Buckley, Stranger Things Ensemble

Additional Tags: Alternate Universe, Alternate Universe - No Upside Down, POV Alternating, Friendship, Slow Burn, Inspired by 10 Things I Hate About You (1999), The Author Regrets Nothing, no beta we die like my phone when i dropped it on concrete

Authors note: the author is cackling

Excerpt below cut:

   Tommy shrugged. “Boring,” said with a smirk, like he was too cool to read. He didn’t need to know how to analyse texts and build his reading comprehension skill. Pfft. What a geek skill. Who would ever need critical thinking in their life? Dumb.

   “Shocker…” Steve rolled his eyes. Opened his notebook and grabbed his pen. Scribbled in the corner.

   “What was that?” Tommy turned his upper body to stare at him. “For someone who can’t even read without following the words with his finger like a baby, you sure have opinions.” He snickered again, gauging a reaction. Wanted to cause a scene.

   The teacher was about to tell him off when the final puzzle piece arrived at long last. The panting combined with the cloud of smoke floating around him revealed why he was late.

   “What’d I miss?” He looked around for a free desk. Spotted one next to the trumpet chick.

   “Just Tommy being a fucking dick,” Steve replied.

Read Chapter 1 now »ao3«

[averagemrfox]

I posted 22,937 times in 2022

That's 4,944 more posts than 2021!

250 posts created (1%)

22,687 posts reblogged (99%)

Blogs I reblogged the most:

@g-r-a-v-e-y-a-r-d

@thedreadpiratematt

@lady-blackflame

@thecrownofflames

@hero-of-the-horn

I tagged 4,422 of my posts in 2022

#cr spoilers - 600 posts

#elden ring - 114 posts

#critical role - 82 posts

#rachel's ramblings - 75 posts

#aloto - 72 posts

#toh spoilers - 60 posts

#tlovm spoilers - 59 posts

#chris look at this - 57 posts

#dnd - 50 posts

#blorbo from my dnd - 39 posts

Longest Tag: 143 characters

#but bc my character is big dumb they have a low discovery skill and i keep getting fucking mushrooms from enemies instead of cool shit 🥲🥲🥲🥲

My Top Posts in 2022:

#5

Carson: I’ve never been in a convent before and… I uh… love… god

God:

567 notes - Posted August 16, 2022

#4

Laura getting the hdywtdt on Delilah for the 3rd time would be great just like on a meta level but Imogen getting the hdywtdt is great bc she’ll have gone from thinking Delilah is some kind of god to kicking Delilah’s ass for her girlfriend Laudna

575 notes - Posted October 8, 2022

#3

Honestly Sam and Laura’s resurrection rolls, as stressful and heartbreaking as they were, their failures do make narrative sense

FCG casting Compulsion with good intent but misjudging how that would feel for Laudna. Laudna’s soul lashing out in whatever ether it was in when it felt the effects of the spell because it feels a little bit too much like a noose

Imogen telling Laudna that she won’t make her do anything she doesn’t want to do. Whatever her decision is she’ll be there to help Laudna along the way just like Laudna had been saving her all along, all while Delilah was tormenting her

Laura’s bad roll feels less like a failure and more like a promise that Imogen will keep her word and coming back was totally up to Laudna

743 notes - Posted October 21, 2022

#2

[ID: a screenshot of Delilah Briarwood from The Legend of Vox Machina, in greyscale and frowning. Text over it reads: "Fuck them kids". end ID]

ID by @silverskyy

1,281 notes - Posted October 14, 2022

My #1 post of 2022

As a forever dm everything they’re saying right now is so relatable but also please check out this very good picture I took

6,000 notes - Posted June 28, 2022

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[mathsbian]

I don't know who you or your partner are but I've been seeing your posts in the exorsexism tag and I just want to say that I am going to fight all the anons you're getting. People in queer and trans spaces are so fucking weird about AMAB+AFAB trans people (ESPECIALLY towards non-binary people who aren't transmasc or transfem) in relationships. They show their bioessentialist exorsexist/transphobic asses so god damn quickly it's like it's an Olympic sport to see how quickly they can fall into the most basic of transphobic rethoric. Sounding like a conservative talk show host as opposed to other queer people. You know who also says this shit? TERFs, like straight up TERFs I've seen complain about AMAB+AFAB trans people in relationships actually just being cishet (and they'll complain about some other stupid shit like how they're PiV critical or think that AMAB people are dumb predatory rocks and AFAB people are helpless damsels with zero autonomy or thinking skills). You all like parroting TERFs and conservatives? Is that what they all really want to do, do they have zero self awareness?

Your relationship isn't less queer because of your AGABs and it's so shitty that this rethoric seems to infest queer and t4t spaces like a plague that people refuse to acknowledge.

Also, anons sending this garbage would probably shit themselves at the thought of a trans man dating a cis woman / a trans woman dating a cis man and both relationships being considered straight.

Yep. Trans people can be straight, but are certainly not heteronormative.

And yeah these anons are like. Going fully rabid over the idea that my partner and I are queer, regardless of the genitalia we have.

It’s bullshit. My partner isn’t a man just because they don’t care that they have a dick and like having a beard. They’re as femme presenting as Jonathan Van Ness and everyone loves him! But because I dare to call myself a bi LESBIAN while dating someone who looks like that I’m deserving of some Peak Transphobia. What if my partner was a butch lesbian on a small amount of T to grow a beard and used they/them pronouns? If that would be okay, it’s literally just the presence of a dick that makes my partner not good enough for me to be a lesbian! Which does seriously imply that these anons don’t see pre-op trans women as real women!!

They’re all just blinded by rad//fem rhetoric and can’t see it. I’d be more sad for them if they weren’t being so vile about it.

[suga4mycoffee]

I posted 457 times in 2022

That's 457 more posts than 2021!

37 posts created (8%)

420 posts reblogged (92%)

Blogs I reblogged the most:

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I tagged 448 of my posts in 2022

Only 2% of my posts had no tags

#coconuts mafia - 421 posts

#kinnporsche - 251 posts

#kinnporsche the series - 238 posts

#kinn theerapanyakul - 49 posts

#porsche pachara - 41 posts

#porsche kittisawasd - 40 posts

#apo nattawin - 39 posts

#kinnporsche meta - 34 posts

#mile phakphum - 32 posts

#love in the air the series - 23 posts

Longest Tag: 77 characters

#i too was attempting to manifest insight from the queen of the coconuts mafia

My Top Posts in 2022:

#5

Saw a post where someone was bitching about Korn, and it reignited my hatred...

The constant manipulative and condescending bullshit he's pulling is unbelievable. A benevolent smile, and soft-spoken words, hiding cold calculation, and someone who would be willing to sacrifice his son's happiness, sanity, and probably even his life, if it means his family is in a position of power. As long as there is a legacy. (Tankhun may be unable to lead the family, but Korn doesn't need Kinn to take over. Because he'd drag Kim back kicking and screaming, with no hesitation, and to hell with what Kim thought about it. The only reason he hasn't done that, is because he has Kinn to step up and take over. If Kinn were to die, become seriously injured, or even just earn enough of his father's displeasure... Korn would give Kim that responsibility. I 100% believe that.)

And the way he keeps up the (thin) facade of caring and concerned father, while making sure to keep Kinn firmly under his thumb, and even crushed under his heel? Never missing a chance to bring up Kinn's past 'mistakes'. Encouraging Kinn to be distant and almost isolated, but still heavily reliant on Korn for praise and validation, because it's a way to control him and manipulate him. Speaking in bullshit parables, like he's some wise old sage, when he's really just coming off sounding like one of those douchebags on the internet who think they're so cultured and enlightened, and are eager to tell you all about it. Giving Porsche special treatment, and then demanding Porsche be punished for something, because he's just another bodyguard and doesn't deserve special treatment.

(That's not even touching on the fact that I don't believe he's got any reason to be punished. I know people are all like "He's a bodyguard, he should have been more careful!", and I would agree... if not for Kinn. I know very little about D/s dynamics, but I personally saw Porsche look to Kinn for permission to take the water. And because Kinn has no social skills to apply to the task of 'flirting with his crush', and was being 'coached' by his friends, when he ends up smiling at Porsche (if we can call that a smile, you awkward little cabbage) and giving a little nod, well... To me, and probably to Porsche, that was a nod of permission. Yes? Probably need @lutawolf to tell me if I'm seeing correctly, or I'm being a big dumb.)

These barely scratch the surface. I might revisit Korn's scenes in the future, if anyone thinks I have a point to further turn my brain onto. If not, fuck that guy. He can get face-fucked by a cactus, because you can see how much Kinn is impacted by what Korn says and thinks. Which is why I found the 'rusty knife' scene so interesting. Because here we see Kinn visibly and significantly uncomfortable with what Korn is trying to pull, and his expression does a whole-ass journey. Again, I can also talk about that, if anyone wants me to.

In summary, it's 3:48AM, I've been frothing at the mouth about this for an hour or so, and I'm going to go the fuck to sleep.

My rage is immeasurable, and Korn can catch these fucking hands.

103 notes - Posted May 23, 2022

#4

In my humble opinion...

Kinn needs to get his ass eaten and destroyed. And Porsche is just the man to do it.

I will not be accepting criticism at this time.

139 notes - Posted May 17, 2022

#3

It's a good thing we don't have P'Pond's email, or anything. I can just see it now:

Dear P'Pond,

Thank you so much for the absolute masterpiece that is KinnPorsche The Series. Me and my fellow thirsty hoes would like to request that you just straight-up film sex tapes for any of your actors who are willing to 'perform', and make them available for purchase immediately. We'll take digital download, if you don't want to incur the expense of physical copies, photocards, etc.

Sincerely, The Coconuts Mafia: Conglomerate of Unrepentant Sluts

173 notes - Posted July 28, 2022

#2

The moments of realisation that hit you when re-watching this show are brutal.

Like the moment where Vegas speaks about taking care of the hedgehogs, and all of them dying.

The moment where he speaks about the last one, and how "He still left me, too."

How "I didn't even get to name him.", because if he didn't name him, maybe it wouldn't hurt so much when he died.

How everything he's ever tried to take care of, except Macau, has died. And that he must be terrified that something will happen to Macau, too.

When he says "Everything that I love has left me.", and you realise he's just waiting for that to happen to everyone in his life that he even remotely cares about.

How you realise that, maybe, this is why Vegas tried so hard to treat Pete like a pet at first.

Maybe, this is why he kept calling Pete a pet. "You are such a good pet of the main family."

Perhaps, it's why he tried to make Pete eat from a pet bowl.

Because if Pete was 'just' a pet, like the hedgehogs he's cared for, maybe it wouldn't hurt so much if he died.

But when he sees that Pete might actually die, he panics.

He crumbles, because he's scared he'll lose Pete, just as easily as those hedgehogs.

When he calls Pete's name, no longer calling him a pet of any kind, shaking his arm, tapping his face. Because Pete is so much more than a pet.

How Vegas dresses Pete's wounds, gives him medicine, speaks to him softly.

How he makes him hot food, in a proper bowl with proper utensils, and even eats some of it himself, to not only prove that it isn't poisoned, but to show that it's a bowl he's willing to eat from. That it isn't something he'd give to a pet.

How he's completely fine with Pete having a book to read, until Pete says something that makes him lash out.

How he gave Pete a chance to escape, to leave him, instead of dying under his hands, like all his hedgehogs. Like the one he holds in his hands when he leaves him the key.

The way he sits like his strings have been cut, mourning the last hedgehog, and knows that Pete will be gone by the time he's brushed himself off and gone back inside.

Because "Everything that I love has left me."

Except Pete.

Because Pete doesn't, no, can't leave Vegas while he's suffering.

He was given the perfect opportunity to leave, to go back to the main family, to escape Vegas.

And instead of grasping that opportunity with both hands, he stays. He sees Vegas, alone and in mourning, and decides that he can't leave him.

He gives Vegas an ear, lends his metaphorical shoulder to cry on, because he wants to help ease his suffering.

He sits with Vegas as he gives the hedgehog a little funeral, handing him flowers to lay atop the grave. (If I'm not mistaken, the flowers are plumeria flowers, which have various meanings, one of them being new beginnings.)

When Vegas stands and walks away, Pete follows.

Pete says he doesn't know why he didn't run away, but I don't believe that. I don't think Vegas really believes that, either.

And Vegas opens up to Pete. He tells him about the hedgehogs, about his battle to care for them and keep them alive, and how he failed. How they died over, and over, and over. How he doesn't have any left. How he didn't name the last one, because maybe it would hurt less when that one died too.

He tells Pete how he's always measured against the main family, against Kinn, and found lacking. How, no matter what he does, his efforts will never be noticed, never be given the same weight.

Pete tries to comfort him, tries to stop him from hurting himself.

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206 notes - Posted June 28, 2022

My #1 post of 2022

Okay, but Kinn trying to talk to Porsche while being 'patient and calm', and instead shrieking like a particularly grouchy alley cat in heat every two seconds? Fucking flawless?

And then trying to modulate his tone and volume, and ending up being so fucking cringe, because he's emotionally constipated and has no proper social skills to speak of, because he's never needed them? Immaculate?

Finally, Porsche being so fucking done with him the entire time, his face practically screaming 'fuck you and all you stand for and your stupid family' while not giving Kinn a single inch of anything, except more rope to hang himself with during this fucking disaster of a conversation? Priceless?

This is my third re-watch, and I'm still feeling so many things, but the overriding emotion this time?

Pure petty glee.

Don't get me wrong, I love Kinn, and I'm sure he'll get (some) of his shit together soon, but damn, bitch. I thought Porsche was our beloved disaster king, but Kinn's coming for his crown in this episode.

306 notes - Posted May 9, 2022

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[doubleddenden]

So I completed part 6 of Digimon Survive

I did a bit of grinding and now have several ultimates, including WarGrowlmon, Angewomon, MegaSeadramon, Etemon, IceLeomom, MarineDevimon, and BlueMeramon.

Also... I made a discovery. Not really spoilers but I'll tag it just in case, but apparently the way you get a good chunk of Ultimate Partner Digimon is not through story. It's *Free Time* sections. Out of the 6 I have, I'm only missing 2, and idk if they're the same or if it's going to be through story. I do know one of them missed a grand opportunity to do so if it was.

But good fucking lord these kids are DUMB. Not just dumb because they're stupid teens, I mean dumb as in they have no critical thinking skills and apparently wear blindfolds sometimes.

First of all, the whole argument about the Digimon betraying them would be solved SO FUCKING QUICK if someone only brought up that they could literally kill them in their sleep if they so chose.

Second of all, when they learn that their partners are mirrors of their soul, they STILL can't figure out why Lopmon would just turn on Shuuji. After literally witnessing him beat the shit out of and constantly berate the little guy since they first met. Nobody puts 2 and 2 together. I'm just saying that irl would slap a cat and get scratched and then ask "well what did I do wrong???"

The story has potential but I'm just in AWE of how stupid these people are.

I am intrigued by the hush hush that the Professor and Haru seem to have, and he definitely knows Garurumon somehow. Looking forward to seeing that explained

[logicalstansadvice]

if Pamela supported the show and of they had a good relationship with her, the internet would say "nice, now they have out with a racist woman, trump friendly and victim blamer of Harvey Weinstein victims" that's what they'd sat, let be honest here. Both Pamela and tommy are trash, the internet does too much and they're just playing dumb. duh, i don't care. has Seb fucked up? yes, so? he's still a much better person than both those individuals together 🤷🏽‍♀️

Anon 2: I think people put him on a pedestal, and when he didn't meet their expectations, they targeted him. / Nope. Few (like less than 5%) of those who left vile comments under his post expressed ethical concerns abt the project. As usually, they insulted his looks, acting skills, intelligence, and bullied his friends who congratulated him for the nomination. They acted like bullies, not like critics of the project with moral concerns or disappointed admirers, the same bullies since 2020, even 2018.

Anon 3: You don't tag people if you potentially can bring evil people to their door or if you could retraumatize them. Neither applies here. And his comments can only be described as sanctimonious instead of fucking thoughtful if you are inclined to think the worst.

Anon 4: That fact that you are even willing to victim blame and slut shame Pamela is very weird>>Oh Dear, Seb fucked, but Pamela fucked big too. Don't hide the fact that she blamed Harvey's victims by saying they should have known better, even after criticism, she still stood by what she said. She also slammed the Me Too movement, which was created by a black woman Tarana Burke for black women, and was appropriated by white women. She said that this movement paralyzes men, and that women should have common sense. Notice how great voice from the movement never came in her favor because of the series. She didn't deserve what happened to her, but she's that kind of feminist who doesn't care about women other than herself.

Anon 5: He meant well but he didn’t think it through….obviously.>> hahaha I love you, girls.

Anon 6: I don't think they're bothering with extensive criticism of others involved in the show (or of other actors in controversial roles) because they never had those people on pedestals. / This is a way of excusing the trolls/bullies who exclusively target him. If they are really worried abt the moral implications of biopics without consent & their motivations are pure, as they like to claim, it stands to reason they would criticize the movie industry as a whole, not solely an actor doing his job.

💄

[just-a-queer-fanboy]

I love (no I dont) how the discourse in this fandom ranges from "this design doesn't reflect the characters ethnic background, I'll redesign it" to "this show is literally pro rape for (checks notes) showing a rape victim with a sexual personality"

I don't care what you think of viv or her work, but saying some of the only representation of hypersexuality is SEXUALIZING ABUSE is fucking absurd. I don't care what you think of the show, talking about the abuse themes like this is genuinely hurting victims, and you can shove it.

Oh, also the raphielle drama is dumb too lol. "They gave raph this scene because of their rape fetish" no they gave him the scene because he's a sex worker please unlock your prefrontal cortex and it's capabilities.

I'm sorry I'm going through the anti rape tag for stuff to queue on @fanboy-the-bitchass and like half of it is just... hazbin hotel drama? Like. Someone said the show "created rape apologists" apparently. Sure, we live in a culture of rape apologism and every victim ever will have an endless supply of apologists shit shove down their throat, but no, that guy you met is a rape apologist because he watched a cartoon where one of the biggest side plots is a character standing up to their abuser. Please log off tumblr for 5 minutes, I'm begging you. I know 12 year Olds with better critical thinking skills.