#especially for the meowrails

[scaredspoons]

your artstyle tastes like miso soup to me :)

OMG THANK YOU!!!! always have been a fan of yours as well!!!! reminds me of warm bread ^u^

[t0nixium]

I think the humble human squish (also known as a friendcrush) accurately describes how a palecrush feels for trolls, and knowing exactly how they feel because I personally experience them, I am absolutely ecstatic imagining that this is how Equius and Nepeta feel towards each other

[eebie]

do you have any favorite "homestuck" characters so far

CALIBORNNNN dave(sprite) Egbert n rose And dear sweet mituna + meowrails N jack noir 😊😊😊😊❤️❤️❤️❤️ and the mwyor but tywt goes without saying . The mayor is ,y best fucking FRIEND !!!

[terrifiedtrinket]

TW. YAPPING!!!!! and i think i say cum once or twice probablie

TGE TROLLS WOULD NOT SMELL GOOD !!!!!

i feel like at most they smell neutral??? or however tf bugs smell

but especially like while and before they play the game?? at the very least they dont smell traditionally nice.

they dont smell like flowrrs and nice things

ESPECIALLY NEPETA!!!! SHE SMELLS LIKE DEAD THINGS MOST OF THE TIME!! SHE STINKS OF ANIMAL AND BLOOD AND SWEAT AND SHE DOESNT SHOWER SHE LIVES IN A CAVE

like no hate to the person who said she would smell like sour candy but like….. why?

i feel like if the troll blood castes were scented, olive blood would have a more natural scent and they wouldn’t be sweet

AND EVEN THEM SHES STILL STINKY!!!!!

the meowrails stink. i love them. but they stink.

equius smells like BO and motor oil and nepeta probably smells like cat piss.

ALSOOOSODOSOSOSO i feel like it’s really weird when people imply or headcanon that the trolls have flavored cum?? like tht feels weird

i feel like even if they did it probably wouldnt be human flavors like chocolate

i dont even wanna think about what i think their cum would taste like tho so im not even gonna try to form an opinion. you do u mann(or do the homestuck trolls ig bc clearly thats ur thing)

UH

i mean clearly not all of their smells are unbearable because clearly the humans dont mind it too much(or at least dont say anything) but also a lot of the biggest offenders are dead so

gamzee smells like drugs. and. dead trolls.

he’s the only i can maybe see smelling sweet because of all the faygo

ik if they were humans they would stink too

like vriska would lie about taking showers i just know it. vriska would drench herself body spray and claim she showered.

trolls wouldn’t smell sweet at the very least

they come from murder land

they don’t smell like vanilla dream

[ii-cant-word2]

meowrails (especially nepeta) have my heart rn for some reason

originals under cut

[triptychgardener]

Oh also am I being a tad reductive when talking about the quadrants? Yeah absolutely. But I do think it's important to see what the comic actually says and demonstrates about relationships within these frameworks, rather than trying to find like. Some platonic ideal of a "TRUE" romance, or trying to figure out how the quadrants are actually *supposed* to work.

Like. We're supposed to take Meowrails as the platonic (no pun intended) ideal of a moiraillegience. They are quite literally used as The Symbol for it in comic (their typing quirks forming the <>).

And when we see their initial relationship online, it is... not great to say the least!

Equius is domineering and dismissive of Nepeta's agency, and is very explicitly *keeping her away from her friends* in this game, and keeping her with him, ostensibly for protection, a thing he does an awful lot despite Nepeta clearly being very capable (see him keeping Nepeta from FLARPing with the other teams. Even if that, in universe, may have been a good idea.)

And even though we do see softer moments between the two of them, and their relationships seems to have improved by the time we reach [S] Equius: Seek the highb100d, this is one of our FIRST demonstrations of a pair of moirails in the comic, designed to be indicative on the concept. In our other examples, Vriska seems barely cognizant of the idea that she's even IN a relationship with Kanaya to begin with, and it falls apart due to the boundaries between pale and red romance (boundaries that, like the human boundary between "friend" and "lover," are artificially constructed); Karkat and Gamzee failed so horribly that Karkat gives up, and it fails to prevent Gamzee from enacting more violence on Terezi; Feferi finds it utterly exhausting to constantly be preventing Eridan from committing violence, and rightfully breaks it off with him; and finally, Terezi is unable to prevent Vriska from inflicting a final and great violence upon herself at the end of the comic, especially when she wants clearly to be Vriska's everything.

For kismessitude, I keep seeing people groping around in the dark for what a True, Healthy Kismessitude is, and I really hope I don't have to tell you that you shouldn't build a relationship off of mutual hate. Our key example given for black romance is, well.

A relationship that literally always ends up with one member murdering the other. In both universes.

Also notable is that we almost never see a kismessitude where there *isn't* some significant power imbalance between the two parties. The Black Queen is Jack Noir's boss, Equius literally designs Aradiabot to be utterly subservient to him, and Gamzee specifically uses Terezi's disability and insecurity to trap her into a relationship with him.

A healthy rivalry or making fun jabs at each other is one thing. But a system is what it does, and kismessistude consistently produces abuse and often fatal violence between two people. The only one that ends without that violence is Eridan and Vriska. And that was just because Vriska didn't really care anymore.

Auspisticism is pretty rare in the comic, and even most of the characters don't seem to have a very strong grasp on the subject. Our example is... Kanaya auspisticizing between Vriska and Tavros.

Which mostly just feels like Kanaya is trying to stop Vriska from picking on Tavros, not facilitating a relationship.

Kanaya is kind of our Key Person here though, being described as "the vvillage twwo wwheel devvice" by Eridan when he is trying to proposition her to auspisticize between him and Vriska. It's a mediative position, that seems to mostly be used in attempts by Eridan to make women talk to him (getting Kanaya to mediate between him and Vriska, trying to get Feferi to mediate him and Sollux, both times unsuccessful because, again, they don't care.) It also exhausts Kanaya, she doesn't like it, and she's not very good at it, if there even is a good state to be in for auspisticizing, as anyone who's had to deal with polycule drama knows.

Ultimately, it's a way to offload the emotional baggage of a toxic relationship, either extant or imminent, onto a third party (always a woman for some reason! Funny that) because Alternian relationship structures seem designed to encourage violence and aggression for the purposes of imperialist expansion.

The REAL point where it matters is when Rose starts to get into Auspisticism, and we start to see when it can really go wrong.

During Game Over, while Gamzee is ACTIVELY BRUTALIZING TEREZI, Rose, who has been talking to both parties and trying to auspisticize, freezes.

Trying to understand this framework as an extant thing is actively causing her to undergo analysis paralysis. She sees, obviously, brutal violence being inflicted on her friend, but because she has positioned herself as the mediator of an obviously abusive relationship, the maintenance of this relationship is suddenly a priority in trying to navigate it. Her fear of getting in the way of what could be a "normal" relationship loses her precious seconds that may have ended up costing lives.

This sort of thing happens all the time. When you see a relationship as an object and a structure whose preservation is worth striving for, even when there is nothing to be gained by maintaining that relationship, it can leave you trapped in abusive and toxic scenarios. On Earth, the preservation of marriages beyond the point where one or both members of the contract get anything positive from it causes devastating unhappiness, inequality and abuse. The preservation of these structures has a purpose.

In America, as well as many other countries on Earth, the purpose of the institution of marriage is largely to put reproductive and financial power in the hands of men, and to construct the nuclear family along the lines which maintain structures like Christianity, capitalism and patriarchy. That has just historically been the case. Does that mean that no one should get married, or that no one can be happy in a marriage? Of course not. But people didn't fight for things like gay marriage, and are still fighting for marriage equality for disabled people and other groups, just for the sake of being "normal." They did it for a lot of reasons. Hospital visitation rights, the ability to have some say in what happens to their partners after death, insurance sharing.

But as the institution of marriage is expanding to include more people, we should really start questioning why these sorts of things are locked behind a contract that also assumes A Lot Of Things about two people that may not necessarily be true, i.e. a desire to live together, have sex, reproduce, share financial interests etc, when a more holistic approach to relationships where they aren't simply All or Nothing is going to make a lot of people a lot happier.

There's a couple of specific phrases in wider Homestuck Fanon that always bothered me. Those being that a relationship "is beyond or transcends quadrants" and that someone wants another person "in all four quadrants." Partially because it always seemed to just describe two people who really really love each other a lot, semantically similar to us calling something True Love but I digress. Like, in an ideal world, most relationships would transcend quadrants! Individual aspects of each type of relationship that are usually cordoned off should be available for you to pick and choose. The lines between a friend and a rival and a lover should be obliterated, but it's said instead to indicate when someone is No For Real In Love, when usually it's just two people who are human dating. There's a good swathe of people who seem to think that all the quadrants are bad EXCEPT for red which is the Normal Human Way Of Being In Love and is therefore good. I mean, this is kind of the whole thing the Candy timeline is based around, right? Everyone cordoning themselves off into neat little marriages, having babies and living in suburban houses with white picket fences.

And we all know how well that's going.

[thewertsearch]

@relaxxattack asked: i mean absolutely NO offense by this, but it’s extremely humorous that you watched meowrails have a heartfelt talk about their feelings and then said they’d be better off as friends… when having heartfelt talks and helping each other with feelings was the very first thing we learned about moirallegiance XD [https://www.homestuck.com/story/2448]

You're not wrong. Actually, this conversation is a pretty good case study on my mixed feelings about moirallegiance, and I want to talk a little about that.

See, on the one hand, I don't have any issue with a troll having a trusted companion, with whom they can have emotionally authentic conversations. On the contrary, that's something the Alternians desperately need, and I completely understand why a troll would seek out a consistent source of emotional support.

...but on the other hand, I do take issue with the fact that you can only have one.

In the linked conversation, Feferi seems kind of annoyed that Eridan's talking feelings with Karkat, instead of her. The implication is that he can't talk feelings with both of them, because 'the troll you discuss heartfelt feelings with' is treated as an exclusive, monogamous relationship.

As a consequence, trolls seem forced to get by with the minimum possible amount of emotional support. There are heartfelt conversations that Eridan isn't 'supposed' to have with Karkat - because Feferi is his moirail, singular. Hot messes like Vriska and Eridan can't benefit from networks of moirails, the way they probably need to - they're expected to offload that entire social role onto one single person, and that really doesn't seem healthy, especially for children.

At the end of the day, I do think moirallegiance is a good idea. I just don't think it really works if moirails can't be poly.

[caligvlasaqvarivm]

Would love to hear your thought on meowrails break up and who they end up with?! Especially interested in Hal <> Nepeta!

Ok! Just a disclaimer before anything: this is not at all saying you shouldnt ship the meowrails, this is just a canon discussion blog and I have noticed... some stuff... but ship whatever you want, I literally don't care, all HCs are valid, etc. etc.

"Everyone has an important job to do." This is a phrase that gets repeated in Hivebent a few times, which makes it important, as Homestuck often uses repetition to build up an "internal lexicon" and deliberately highlight when situations have similar connotations (Hussie discusses this on their Formspring). So what's the context for this specific phrase? Well, it shows up three times, and for at least two of those times, it's associated with failed moirallegiances.

GA: But It Just Means Theres Got To Be Someone Around To Keep An Eye On Them GA: And If Not Me Then Who GA: Everyone Has An Important Job To Do AG: Ok, so you're spying on me. Kind of creepy! Man, m8y8e you should get a l8fe.

And

CC: I will need to connect after my goofball moirail does so I can keep my goggles on )(is nefarious escapades. CC: Its a toug)( job but its important! Everyone )(as an important job to do.

So, okay, apparently the context of this phrase is "this person is in a moirallegiance that will NOT work out"... well, here's the third time it pops up (though it's the first time chronologically):

Your best pal of all is A LITTLE BOSSY, and people wonder why you even bother with him. But someone has to keep him pacified. If not you, then who? Everyone has an important job to do.

So... hm. This isn't the only thing I have to say about meowrails breakup, but it is the most prominent one, and maybe the most damning, depending on how much weight you put into Homestuck's oft-deliberate use of parallels.

Maybe something a bit more damning is the way Hussie speaks about them in the book commentary? Pretty much every time they turn up, he has some comment to make about how Equius doesn't really "need" Nepeta, and about how he tends to talk over her and usurp her agency, like so many shitty boyfriends IRL.

We don't know much about Equius yet, but we get an awful lot of info about him with this excerpt. He's racist, a huge snob, doesn't like swearing, is stern and controlling, has a patronizing fondness for Nepeta, and thinks archery is cool because of its association with nobility. Combine this with the snapshot of his room we'll see soon, and suddenly we have an extensive character portrait. This was all important to establish quickly, because it helps us understand in record time that Equius is in fact one of the greatest characters ever created.

Equius says he appreciates that Nepeta's angry. I guess meaning that he respects an angry disposition, like his own. Especially early on in his characterization, it's suggested he has anger issues (like him taking his rage out on robot dummy combatants). But I'm not sure this trait holds up. Over time, he seems to show a lot more passion about his weird stuff, his passion for archery and muscular horse men, his submissive obsessions, his deference toward those higher on the hemospectrum and fetish-like indulgence in depraved attraction toward those lower. Ultimately he comes off more as a ridiculous nerd, with a soft spot for a lot of silly and creepy shit. My view on this is, it's not that the text lost track of the fact that he was supposed to be angry. It's more that this was his initial state of mind early on, and the more he started blowing off steam with his various indulgences (Aradiabot, etc.) the less he had to be mad about. We just meet him at a really high-strung point in his life. I think it's more accurate to say his "anger" is a form of hyperintense focus on being stern, aloof, proper, and averse to nonsense, which is a facade serving to cover up his inner personality, which is barely in control at all. Like Nepeta suggests, deep down he wants to play the kinds of silly games she plays. He wants to let go completely, and indulge every ludicrous and depraved whim he has. His arc tends to be more about caving to these indulgences, and all the mixed consequences that follow, than resisting them.

Here's [S] Equius: Seek the highbl00d, another playable RPG game. [...] But Christ, why am I talking about that garbage when we are about to review some truly choice material focusing exclusively on your favorite meowrails. It is a great illustration of their tragic dynamic; deeply committed and caring partners in the diamonds quadrant, and yet compromised by Equius and his stubborn class-driven faults, his pathological reverence for his superiors, his forced and probably not genuinely felt sense of disdain for lower bloods like Nepeta, and ultimately his failure to rise above these flaws when presented with a real test of character and friendship. A test imposed, of course, by a boorish murderclown, who from this point onward just ruins fucking everything, constantly.

Hussie is an unreliable narrator (of the "he's deliberately playing a character who's biased, opinionated, and sometimes wrong, because a major theme of Homestuck is that you have to question who's telling the story and if they can be trusted" variety), so it's difficult to parse exactly what he's saying is salient, especially since he talks so damn much. But even so, he constantly goes out of his way to highlight how the meowrails DON'T work out - which is even pretty canon in the comic.

In Hivebent, the two are established as working along this dynamic: Nepeta soothes Equius's anger issues, while Equius keeps Nepeta from recklessly endangering herself (for example, prohibiting her from LARPing). But as Hussie says, Equius's anger problems become basically nonexistent by the time Murderstuck rolls around, and his actual problem is his overindulgence in his fetishes; meanwhile, his bossy, controlling attitude to Nepeta was always kind of suspect, but it actively becomes a source of frustration to her that she can't wait to shirk (he bans her from talking to the humans, and she goes behind his back to do it anyways - even celebrates when Karkat gives her express permission).

In the end, they die for their failures as a moirallegiance - despite being fresh off a feelings jam in a pile, and so, supposedly at their least likely to hurt themselves or others, Equius's horny gets him killed (Hussie has always maintained across multiple platforms that Equius could've easily overpowered Gamzee, he just chose not to because Hot), and Nepeta doesn't listen to his orders to stay put. In later conversations with ARquiussprite, Equius is always framed as the one here who was wrong - who failed to keep Nepeta safe and has something to apologize for. I think it's also pretty important to notice that in the bubbles, Equius is never seen doing so - but IS seen being really weird to Aradias - fully implying that he's actually been avoiding taking accountability to Nepeta in favor of indulging in his fetish shit, out of shame and guilt.

As Hussie says, the meowrails are an important relationship, and when I say they don't work out, I don't mean they shouldn't have been together in the first place. On the contrary; I think they actually were good for each other, way back on Alternia. Nepeta DID keep Equius's frustrations in check, and Equius DID keep Nepeta out of trouble. But as time went on, Equius just got really comfortable with treating Nepeta like an object he owned - something convenient, which he can use when he's feeling sad, and ignore otherwise - and Nepeta started growing frustrated with his increasingly petty control. They grew as people, their needs changed, and they stopped being good for each other, but they stayed together - out of inertia and sunk cost fallacy on Nepeta's end, and on Equius's end, because it was convenient and pleasant (for him) and useful (for him) so why would he throw it away?

While this is something I think could potentially be worked out with relationship therapy, the thing with Homestuck is that it's big into the idea of soulmates, especially in the pale quadrant (which is described with that exact term). Its ultimate thesis on romance is that, while you have to do a lot of personal work in order to be the kind of person who can BE in a soul mates relationship, ultimately a relationship SHOULD have an element of just... easy compatability, idiosyncracies clicking together in just the right way to bring out the best in both parties. It's idealized, and there's criticism to be made about that, but that's still ultimately how romance kind of functions in Homestuck. The perfect match is out there for you, and while you have some growing to do in order to be ready for it, it's supposed to be easy once you get there. Consider how Eridan can calm Karkat down literally just by talking to him normally, or how Sollux regularly outright professes that Feferi's just fucking amazing - these are relationships where the involved parties don't need to tell themselves "everyone has an important job to do" with grit teeth to justify keeping the relationship going.

Meowrails lacks that inherent compatability, according to the evidence, but of course, that brings up the question of who they SHOULD date in pale instead. Hey, did you ever notice that Dirk (and by extension, Hal) are EXTREMELY Equius-coded?

So here's the thing. Hal's favorite alpha kid is Roxy, who is also pretty Nepeta-themed, being a cat-associated Rogue. They regularly flirtLARP with each other, but when we get a glimpse of this so called flirtLARPing, it's actually Roxy almost, but not quite, getting Hal to admit that he's actually not really that into Jake, he just feels obligated, as an extension of Dirk, to make DirkJake happen. They almost, but not quite, have a feelings jam.

Meanwhile, Hal outright calls his conversation with Dirk, as Dirk grapples with whether or not he should kill Hal, a "feelings jam", and Dirk also has a convo with Caliborn about how maybe he should consider the merits of selfcest.

What these interactions hint at, to me, is Nepeta <> Hal, and Equius <> Dirk... and I think if you consider it from the standpoint of their personalities, it works, too?

Nepeta is pretty consistently shown to have a knack for knowing how other people actually feel. Her shipping charts are incorrect in terms of compatability, but she's got a scary knack for reading intentions and desires - as befits a non-destructive Heart player. She's able to pinpoint that Eridan's advances on her are insincere, but he's not that bad a guy; she notices that Karkat is a big softie who loves his friends so much; she correctly reads that Equius is a big ol' goofball who loves to play games. Hal, as a Mind player, and even more as originally being a Dirk splinter and an AI, is deeply distressed by his lack of "self"-hood; it's Roxy who calls out first and most blatantly that he's clearly his own guy with his own real feelings, which seems to be why he gravitates toward her. Nepeta would do this even harder, since it's kind of her entire Thing, and I think Hal would really appreciate that, since Hal is at his worst when he thinks he's acting in someone else's best interest (Sylph lol).

Meanwhile, what Nepeta really needs IS an enabler. She's a rebellious soul with radical ideas about how the hemospectrum is stupid and dumb, and she's RIGHT and she should SAY IT. Hal's amazing at giving people what they "want", pulling strings to ensure DirkJake happens, while also framing it as something that Jake would want - this bombastic, action hero kiss-in-front-of-a-volcano. Nepeta's clearly attracted to characters with Equius-esque qualities, but after spending so long with Equius, who does nothing but push her down with a patronizing "hush, greenblood, it's for your own good," I think she would do well with an insane partner in crime who instead goes "fuck yeah girl, let's make this shit happen." Especially since her personal insecurities are that other people will find her dumb and silly (an impression that Equius certainly didn't HELP with...) - having Hal in her corner going "uhhh you're literally my favorite and I will engineer situations to fall directly in your favor?" would be a huge help to her.

I'm actually not entirely sold on equius <> dirk - they're maybe too similar? - i have in my notes here john <> dirk and equius <> jake. idk. the shipping web starts to get complicated

[number1otisdriftwoodkin]

Whoops, same anon who requested Nepeta x Equius (nsfw). Do u mind if I also request for it to be headcanons?

I assume you meant can u have a fanfic AND headcannons, in which case ofc u can!! These r the headcannons and the fic will come out as soon as i learn how tf to write about troll dicks. Ty for ur patience!!

NSFW meowrails headcannons

Warnings; nsfw, duh, vauge mentions of eating disorders but nothing serious. All characters are aged up.

-despite being much smaller than equius, nepeta typically takes the more dominant role.

-equius is a masochist, however nepeta is not a sadist. Equius can deal with that as long as nepeta keeps accidentally scratching him with her claws.

-most of the time, stuff is pretty vanilla with them.

-although, equius has attempted to do a couple bdsm scenes.

-it typically ends with them forgetting all about whatever they set up, and just enjoying having each other in their arms.

-moirails = soft, gentle, calming sex most of the time

-especially on bad days for equius and his body dysmorphia, nepeta is gentle with him.

-although, i headcannon meowrails to vacillate between all kinds of romance, even black

-so they do occasionally end up covered in each others marks from something particulary rough.

-when they do get rough and stick to a scene, its typically a hunter/prey type situation.

-bondage is a big thing, equius loves to feel powerless.

-kink is less of a "hot" thing to spice stuff up for them, and more of a "healing" thing to deal with issues. Ie; equius struggles with self harm, so they do knifeplay instead

-in general, i think theyd be the types to try anything atleast once.

-anything but watersports. Equius is too shy to ever dare considering it and nepeta finds it "yucky"

[serfuzzypushover]

Hi! I was wondering if maybe I could request some meowrails with a cat therian Nepeta and a horse therian Equius and / or a plural Nepeta :33

Side note, our system's Nepeta really lives your meowrails art!! She especially likes how you draw her fluffy ^w^ have a nice day!!

i wasnt sure if/what gear equius would wear so i jusr gave him a lil horseshoe pin <3 and i made nepetas hat brown to b more uhhh therian like? like her theriotype is a brown tabby Σ:3

[fern3031]

NEPETA NATION!!!!!!!! hello to anyone roleplaying nepeta or just likes using her quirk. ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO USE QUIRK ASSIST i will link quirk assist later. ok so i made a list of puns but using like every single pun i could find or think of ok i will copy and paste it down below... BEWARE THIS IS IN THE FORMAT TO BE COPY AND PASTED INTO A QUIRK ASSIST .TXT DOCUMENT SO IT HAS ALL THE NEEDED FORMATTING/CODE EVERYTHING you would need to do nothing. basically :.: means = there are some weird words i just wanted to get every word i could find im sorry

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woohoo!! ok https://web.archive.org/web/20151016145253/http://mspaforums.com/showthread.php?46640-Quirk-Assist-Type-like-a-troll-Anywhere-v-1-4-2

quirk assist ^ to auto correct quirks so you dont have to manually type them. nepetas quirk doesnt come with puns because TECHNICALLY she doesnt actually use puns all the time but its fun!!! so i use them

[davekat-sucks]

I feel that the end and development of Homestuck is shit so here I will say what changes I would make so that (according to me) the story improves (the trolls because their part are a disaster, humans are a little better but these changes would also help them, especially the alpha kids and their development)

º not kill any troll, Gamzee can go crazy without killing anyone and that way we don't waste characters or time, at the same time that with the full cast we use the characters of the blue team to develop the alpha kids and help them overcome their problems mutually.

Nepeta would help Jane with her emotional and romantic problems which would help her solve her own character problems, Eridan would help Roxy and they could evolve together to form a couple, Feferi would help Dirk (I still don't know how but it would be an interesting dynamic, Dark would also receive help from Nepeta to learn (mutually) about her appearance, Etc.

ºBeforus is a disaster that no one understands for what he eliminated the dancestors because most are useless and do not contribute anything to the plot, in this way and as the issue of the timelines is a confusing disaster we also eliminate the alternate versions of the characters in the dreambubbles and replace them with souls of trolls in Alternia, this would help the trolls to develop better in almost needing external support. Feferi replaces Meenah's role and gets from the development he needs, Gamzee can do what he does in history without Kurloz and instead receive the help of LE's religion, Kanaya can receive advice and support about being a rainbow drinker of another jade blood troll, Terezi and his insecurity can come from other trolls who are not Latula, etc. (Also Of the ancestors are fine being ambiguous we don't need so much information from them)

ºnow that not everyone is dead we will make the trolls that do not have aspects covered by humans reach God tier because there are aspects of which we know little and thus we fill information.

ºIn the final fights the trolls would kill the countess, Jack noir would be defeated by the beta kids and finally everyone would help kill LE (except Gamzee who in this universe is a real villain who will be defeated by Karkat and Terezi after finishing going crazy, poetic justice because in this way both take revenge for the toxic relationship that he had with both and that hurt them a lot)

ºin the end everyone arrives at their new universe and the final couples would be:

Meowrails (pale who would overcome their toxic dynamic)

EriRox (their developments would be closely connected)

Karezi (for everything that happens in the comic + changes)

Spider8reath (Vriska would develop organically without getting everything she lost in her hands again)

SpaceTime (for what already happens in the comic + changes)

RoseMary (but this time well)

SolAra (they belong together I also doubt it was very funny for Feferi to see her boyfriend leave when for his ex without thinking about her).

Wonderful and amazing changes here!

[glitterypopcorn]

introduction

haii!! i’m glitter!!!! you can also call me katya or roxy, especially if we're close!!! ヾ(๑╹ꇴ◠๑)ﾉ”

i go by any pronouns :3 he/she/they preferred, no pref between the three >_<

EDIT!!!!!!!! my social anxiety has been extremely bad as of late!!!!!!! if i dont know you and i reblog a post with a comment then say "sorry" or something for seemingly no reason it's because i don't want to bother you or make you uncomfortable!!!!!!!! i'm very awkward talking to other people who havent spoken to me nowadays so some things i say may be kind of weird!!! im sorry about this!!!!!

if i reblog a homestuck ship there's a high chance i just like the art, the only ships i really ship are qpr calliejaneroxy (+callieroxy, janeroxy, and calliejane), dirkjake, johndave, vrisrezi, vrisroxy, and rosemary ^_^ (oh and meowrails but they're not a flushed ship)

click this link for additional info!

i'm a katya (pafl) and roxy (homestuck) fictionkin!!!! :DDDDDDDD i am white so i dont usually tag posts portraying roxy in any other way as "me," unless i really resonate with the post in a different way. ^_^ the drawings i do of roxy lean from fanon and source compliant to stuff that's more like. me. i don't have a set source headcanon so like. lol. yea. i doubt any1 will care to read this but just putting it out there!!

rogue of void!! my moon is derse and im a fuschia blood ~v~

no dni, i just block!!!!

i edited my pfp but @;nopanamaman drew it! lmk if you want any icon edits there's a chance i'll make one (๑ᴖ◡ᴖ๑)♪

art on the katya kin blinkies also by nopanamaman!! those blinkies r made by @eye-bleeding-arts >:3

art tag [multiple types of art] - #glitters creations

if i ever make you uncomfortable in ANY WAY please dm me! i won't get mad i promise ^_^ i'm always looking to better myself but i do make mistakes and forget things sometimes and im sorry about that

if you see me using dogwhistles PLEASE LET ME KNOW i don't intentionally use those things and id like to be aware so i can change my behavior

more stuff below the cut!! interests + such

CANDYLAND LINK (oc universe)

I AM A MINOR!!!!! please don’t be weird, thank you!

i have autism and adhd, both diagnosed!

CANDYLAND ASK BLOG @ask-candyland

my "main" blog is @glittersendsasks, it was my original blog but since i created it i've moved here. it was originally a roleplay blog for basil from omori ( ꩜ ᯅ ꩜;)  criiinge!

KATYA PAFL RP ACC @katyas-cool-account405

ANYA PAFL RP ACC (much less active on there) @beletskanya69

GRAPHICS N STUFF BLOG!! @cakemixedd

sorry i dont do copypastas/chain mail dont take it personally

likes: parties are for losers, homestuck (new interest, i don't know much abt it aside from what's in the comic itself), omori, the post-traumatic manifesto, welcome to night vale, in stars and time, evidentlyfresh, ferry, cotton candy flavored stuff, candy + other sweet foods, drawing, singing, bugs, isopods, and cosplaying!!!!! n my favorite color is pink

here's a link to music i like because i don't want to make this post too long!! i will probably forget to update this so it will likely be outdated if you're looking at it a month or more after it's posted

please don’t call me pookie, thank you <3

rbs > likes but do whatever you want lol idc !!

hearts meaning:

🩷 : romantic!!!! if i use it with you and i don't know you irl, i accidentally clicked it. i will probably notice this though !!

💚🩷 : platonic!!

💚 : platonic. usually only used when i want to send a single heart!!

<3 : depends!! if we're not partners, it's platonic ^_^

(o*・ω<)oﾟ.+:｡ﾟ.

by the way i’m burnt out currently and may not respond to asks/do things i said i would do. don’t take it personally >_<

also. i can only speak english </3 i'll use google translate if spoken to in another language so things i say might sound weird

[catgirl-catboy]

What are some interactions you wish we couldve gotten/seen more of in Homestuck? And if we had gotten those interactions, what do you think they'd be like?

So many:

It felt like John's place in Dave's whole arc was completely forgotten about. Like, Dave growing past a need for John's approval doesn't mean the narrative shouldn't care about it. Maybe this should have gone to Davesprite, but...

More Rose-Jade interaction in general. I love them both as characters, and the lack of the dynamic really hurts the worldbulding in my mind. Friendship is such a big thing in Homestuck... except these two members of the group that talked like twice.

We get some of this with Roxy, but if even half of the narrative attention of John-Dad and Dave-Bro got paid to Rose-Mom, I'd die a happy nerd.

TLDR: I love Rosemary as much as the next sapphic, but I feel like Rose is underutilized as a character outside of it.

Also, more Meowrails. Act 5's pacing as a whole is funky, and its especially clear with these two. My read on them as a whole is "Equius is CORRECT, but he's being toxic about it because he's 13 and has some classism to unlearn." but we can't have them go from "Nepeta is afraid to voice her opinion" to "unproblematic OTP in a pile" in like 2 conversations.

Either some Terezi-Tavros interactions, or a lampshade hung on the lack of them. Either way could work for Terezi's character, but they both say very different things.

[crappy-homestuck-confessions]

the more i look at this one roblox game called dandy's world the more i think about homestuck....

they both have elaborate/creative ship names: fruitcake, cyberbullying, reflective detective for Dandy's world then communism, pepsicola, meowrails for Homestuck as examples

A LOT of characters (still more being added for Dandy's World but for each character added its like two because they also get a twisted form)

Has a toxic fanbase especially since its at its peak right now

that one really angry short character that hates a lot

a green lesbian

a cat girl

a character who has a whole thing with fish puns

and the list goes on...

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[tfdtreasurer]

An Introduction to PMIO Theory

From here on out, I'm going to start tagging certain posts "PMIO Theory." I've also gone back and added it to my first post, which pretty succinctly demonstrates how critical the ideas contained within it are to this blog. So what does it mean? PMIO stands for Patron, Matron, Infant, Orphan. The theory at its most basic, posits a symbolic relationship between the characters Feferi, Kanaya, and Eridan. Controversially, it also posits that the characters of Feferi and Kanaya are flawed, and deserve correction through character development. They are in fact, not badass girlbosses, but kids that like all of the beta trolls, were uniquely traumatized by the manipulations of their abusive guardian Doc Scratch. It is this trauma that manifests in maladaptive behavior that ends up harming both themselves and others.

The four main tenets in more detail:

1. Patron

Feferi is the Patron. Her character, although not masculine in many ways, has a distinct patronizing streak that lends her to the masculine side of the "parents" in PMIO. A layer deeper, her multiple allusions to general imperialism and more specifically "The White Man's Burden" solidifies her as practicing paternalism. It is in the first PMIO tagged post that I explore that in more depth. The patron side of the "parents" is defined by being overly-assertive, or to stick to Homestuck terms, the active characteristic of Feferi's Witch class. The Witch class, witch (hehe) is of course the opposite of the Sylph.

2. Matron

Kanaya is the Matron. Her character, although so deeply identified as lesbian, is also deeply symbolically attached to motherhood. Her position as matron speaks more for itself than the patron. However, her being maternal is also bad, but less for others, and more for herself. For one, especially notable for a character who is so obviously a lesbian, her self worth is tied to the reproductive duties of the "jadeblood caste." Kanaya also suffers what I would call a chronic passivity, the same characteristic that sets her and Feferi's classes apart. Her first instinct to things that upset her is passive aggression, making her ineffective until too late at best, and enabling of others worst habits at worst, all of which hurts her.

3. Infant

Considered together, their shared aspect is their Infantilization of others, which this theory posits is something the narrative seeks to criticize about them, and the act of infantilization as harmful. It is important to remember that in the narrative as it is presented to the audience, Feferi and Kanaya are blatantly made out to be two halves of Hivebent's "bad moirallegiences," moirallegiences defined by the reversal of ever critical attraction to the pacifier clause in the troll romance exposition. The quote, for the reader's convenience:

"Trolls are a very angry and violent race. Some are more hot-tempered and dangerous than others, to the extent that if left to their own devices, they would present a serious threat to society, or even to themselves. Such trolls will have an instinctive pale attraction to a more even-tempered troll, who may become their MOIRAIL. The moirail is obliged to pacify the other, to function as the better half. The two partners in a strong pale relationship will serve to balance and complement each other's emotional profiles, and thus allow their other relationships to be more successful." (pg. 2401) [Emphasis added]

Contrast how these bad moirallegiences compare to the positive example of moirallegience in Meowrails. Nepeta neither patronizes nor fails to be direct in her criticism of Equius, ":33 < everyone knows youre a weirdo and a cr33p! / :33 < thats why youre lucky to have me to k33p an eye on you." Equius on the other hand, has a pale attraction to Nepeta and explicitly would like to pacified, "D --> As such, [Gamzee] is prone to being more violent and unpredictable than any of us / D --> Not everyone has been as lucky as I in the domain of moirallegiance."

As moirails, Feferi and Kanaya fundamentally fail because they're getting the order of how moirallegiences work wrong. For Feferi, it's a case of the exposition's example of mistaken signals, where she feels invited as moirail when in reality Eridan doesn't feel that way. For Kanaya, it's her fussiness and caring personality that gets in the way of properly expressing her own red feelings as Vriska uses her for her own gain. Both of them are attempting to interject themselves as a literal form of pacifier to their respective dangerous personalities, but aren't wanted as one in the first place. In other words, they are implicitly underestimating the maturity of their "moirail's" actual intentions and capabilities, and thus, infantilizing them.

4. Orphan

Finally, Eridan, as the Orphaner, was designed from the start to contrast with Feferi and Kanaya, and provide them character development by indicting their patronizing and matronly traits as harmful. Had things gone differently, whether you want to call it headcanon or the canon that could've been, or the true plan that was abandoned because Act 6 is a rushed mess, their character development would have been catalyzed by the Orphaner's symbolic rather than literal destruction of the patron and matron, eg. an Orphaning. This character development would allow them to effectively become their mature selves, and thus allow Homestuck to complete itself as a kind of "ensemble bildungsroman."

Using this tag

When you see me use this tag, it is because that post either primarily or tangentially relates to any one or number of these ideas. This tag is also not exclusive. If you want to contribute your thoughts to it, I am following the pmio theory tag and will hopefully notice the post. Or just tag me, I won't mind.