#fuck vivienne medrano

[4ggravation]

the fact that people consistently forget/don't acknowledge the fact that vivienne medrano has been proven to be abusive and shitty towards her animators multiple times infuriates me to no end

[k1ttygam3r]

My Immortal walked so Vivziepop could trip and collapse into a pile of dust

[ataraxianne]

I'm literally crying what do you mean Blitzø was like "LOOK AN UFO" and Stolas believed it and started looking up at the sky so when he was distracted Blitzø ate his ice cream😭😭😭😭

[the-irreverend]

I NEEDED THIS SO BADLY

[drunkonimagination]

there are several things about that trailer that make me go feral for very different reasons and i’ll probably elaborate more on each one once i regain consciousness, but nothing nothing broke and simultaneously healed me more than this.

[aetherixs]

better plot twist than fight club

[umnokorito]

wink of god

[lore-gore]

An anti came at me with "viv is a bad person so her show deserves the hate" so I fucking debunked all her reasons so hard that she blocked me.

[porcelaintoybox23]

Vivziepop’s and Adam’s childish responses have made me lose respect for them and the shows. An important rule to all creatives, refrain from responding to criticism. Maybe even avoid it, but definitely do not respond. Their “defense” against poor writing reveals they are hurt and can’t handle criticism. You are creators, you will be criticized. That’s the risk we all take. Audiences aren’t required to coddle your feelings and give their feedback in kind words and affirmations.

You’re allowed to be hurt. No one likes criticism, especially of something near and dear to their hearts. That thread on Millie was an immature fishing attempt at praise and adoration from her fans. She set up strawmen for them to mock and smack down all while throwing shade at her critics. Adam retweets an article about how most criticism these days are from people too dense to understand media. Sir, fuck you. People disliking your writing doesn’t make them stupid or wrong. Even if they are, shut up. You look pathetic. Belittling your audience is foolish.

I waited years for Hazbin Hotel. I liked the beginning of Helluva Boss. I’m allowed to critique things. I’m allowed to have “wrong” opinions though we can literally see that Millie has had no significant development in comparison to her male counterparts. Moxxie has 3 episodes dedicated to this, including the one where me go to Millie’s hometown. If her development is coming, fine. It says something that you have to make a thread saying you will because, clearly, you haven’t.

I’m still holding out hope for Hazbin. I’ve been waiting since high school and I liked the pilot.

Finally,

The writing of Helluva Boss is atrocious. Stolas is annoying. Blitzo is inconsistent. Moxxie is fucking pathetic and I can’t believe they wasted Zim’s VA on him. Grow a spine. Millie is adorable but is only Moxxie’s wife. Loona is there…Octavia is also there. Stella is so overkill it’s stupid. The character designs are not diverse. I will watch the next episode and how many episodes after, if I want. I’ll shit on them, if I want. The show has drastically dropped views and you can see it. There are also too many fucking merch sales. They’re acting like Poppy’s Playtime.

Edit: apparently Viv decided to cry about a new video, which was very polite, and tweeted about it. I can’t muster up anything beyond “yikes.”

[animationgirl89]

"More Than Anything." (Reprise) ♥️✨

(Vaggie & Charlie's Duet)

(SPOILERS FOR EP 8)

"And in the end, if it's only me you've saved..there's something that I've been dying to say. More than anything, more than anything. Need you to know I love you more than anything. More than anything.."

[mintaikk]

You know, I was HAVING a good day reading fanfiction and watching Alex Meyers, and then I suddenly remembered how Stolas's faith in Blitzø saving him never wavered and how his last words would've been "Blitzø will-" if Moxxie and Millie didn't come rescue him and how the flower petals were the whole, "he loves me, he loves me not" game and then when Blitzø texted him the flowers were on "he loves me" but when he invited him over and Blitzø didn't respond they ended with "he loves me not" and DESPITE ALL THIS he's never upset Blitzø and he still loves him which is why he wants to let them go and even Ozzie says that Fizz hates him he was so surprised at the fact that anyone could hate Blitzø and how the Full Moon is coming in like 2 or 3 months and it's inevitably going to be sad and heart breaking and I can't fucking do this

[mischiefavenged1309]

In one single tweet, Vivziepop managed to confirm more characters’ asexuality than ALL other TV shows combined.

[ataraxianne]

Something something about Blitzø living with an alcoholic careless father (who acted ratherly abusively towards him) getting genuinely concerned when seeing Stolas chugging a bottle of alcohol at the party

[the-irreverend]

Has anyone else noticed that when Valentino slams the door AT FULL FORCE, Angel Dust isn't even startled by it?

The implications of this are HORRIFYING because this implies it's happened so many times that Angel Dust has gotten used to it to the point where it doesn't even make him flinch.

It's little details like this that illustrate just how much trauma, pain, and abuse Angel has endured.

[jajanvm-imbi]

Every day, I get more and more embarrassed to say that I enjoy Helluva Boss (despite the many MANY flaws) and that I'm excited for Hazbin Hotel.

I've been following both of these projects since the pilots were released and I've happily keeping up with all the new episodes of Helluva and with all the Hazbin announcements.

But of course, because of the nature of both projects, the humor, the artsyle, the release nature, the pilots being released on YouTube, it attracted a HUGE audience who think they're entitled to do and say anything they want. Not to mention how many vitriolic haters it attracted too.

You can't defend the new cast without people loosing their shit over how the new cast "doesn't fit the characters like the pilot cast". People can't defend the new cast without putting down the pilot cast either as seen with people bashing Michael Kovach for being a bad singer when that isn't objectively true.

We can't go one week with some Vivziepop anti on Twitter pulling false accusations out of their ass trying to bash Vivenne Medrano for being a horrible witch who doesn't pay her team.

You can't criticize ANYTHING Vivienne Medrano does or any aspect of her shows without a legion of diehard stans who defend her every move and every writing decision made even tho the writing in Helluva Boss is objectively a mess.

The closer Hazbin gets to its release date the more rapidly people spew out hate from BOTH SIDES and its ruining the experience for those of us who just want to have a good time.

This is like the Voltron fandom but worse and Hazbin hasn't even been fucking released yet. I'm ready to just watch the show and stay in my lane without interacting with the fandom because this shit is exhausting. I've never seen so much drama over a show that hasn't EVEN BEEN RELEASED YET. I wanted to get Hazbin merch but now I don't want to cause I don't wanna be associated with the mountains of shit both the fandom and the hatedom continue to cause.

Fuck this. I was excited for Hazbin's release and now I'm honestly dreading it. So much for faithfully following the series for like 5 years.

[doomalade]

Until Viv delivers the playbills, I’m gonna be calling her a thief and a crook.

She stole those peoples’ money, blocked them when they asked about it, and then sent a letter where one of the characters says “fuck you, you’re just greedy, watch the show (which gives Viv more money)”

What just an awful person

I wish for Helluva and Hazbin to be cancelled and canned forever and for her to be blacklisted from the industry

Fuck Vivziepop