#function labels

[my-autism-adhd-blog]

Hi, so i'm autistic, and i was wondering if others felt the same way about the label "high functioning" to describe having less needs than those who have more difficulties on the spectrum.

I personally don't like the term, as it's typically used to dismiss our needs, and has made headway for people after hearing i have "high functioning" autism to just say i'm using excuses, or i'm not actually autistic because i'm "high functioning" i also don't feel like i'm high functioning either, i feel very lost and confused about everything, and haven't been able to get the help i need because i'm so "high functioning" in others' eyes.

So yeah, do other people also dislike the term high-functioning? And would they be be willing to explain why they dislike it, or even why they don't dislike it?

Also, if you answer this, thank you very much, i'm often very confused and like hearing others' thoughts on things

Hi there,

I absolutely hate the term “high” and “low” functioning. Like…wtf does that even mean? How well you can function in society? That’s fucked to me.

There’s a level system now.

I have mixed feelings about the level system, but it’s so much better than those functioning labels.

My followers can provide their own opinions if they’d like.

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[thousandyearphantombunker]

I'm sorry but low functioning means incapable completing Basic adls not low masking high functioning means you can complete basic adls (which exclude things like driving/holding down a job etc) its not that we're necessarily high masking and they are low masking they are often straight up incapable of masking.

High functioning/low support needs/level one might fail to catch how much your autism actually impacts you but don't erase severe autism.

People with low functioning autism are often incapable of dressing themselves or bathing alone or basic food prep or they might need sanitary devices like diapers cause they can't complete basic daily tasks

There's also people who are high functioning and incapable of masking (many nonverbal people for obvious reasons cannot hide their autism and outside of that me and my cousins despite being high functioning and verbal cannot hide our disabilities)

High functioning is misleading yes. Often high functioning people deal with unemployment and struggle with things like rent or overstimulation and burn out but please do not phrase high functioning as high masking (that gets rid of people like me and my cousins) and low functioning as low masking (that erases people like my uncle and cousin also that's even more misleading they are incapable of caring for themselves in any real capacity)

I don't mean to be a dick. But I'm tired of higher functioning autistics taking over the conversation when it comes to autism. Low functioning autistics exist and it isn't that they aren't masking or are bad at masking it's that they need more help than us.

I don't remember who said it but whoever suggested to use "high masking" and "low masking" instead of low and high functioning i love you so much. Its the only words I feel really work for me. I was diagnosed with "high functioning autism/aspergers" which the 1st one just didnt fit me i felt bc it just isnt true and the 2nd word has nazi history so um no thanks. Lots of people use low and high support needs now but those don't work for me either. Like i would be considered low support needs i guess but I do need lots of support with daily things i definitely do not have low support needs if i take the definition litterally. I am high masking.

High masking suggets that i look like i am high functioning and okay although i am not and that's very validating

[auschizm]

I think what low support needs people get wrong when they feel invalidated by the terms low support needs vs high support needs is that they think "low support needs" implies "insignificant support needs/no support needs". But that's not what it means. Every disabled person has support needs. Just because they are on the low end compared to certain other disabled people's, that does not imply that they aren't real and valid. Someone else needing more support than you doesn't imply that your disability isn't a real disability

[la-esmerqlda]

I would like to thank Elon Musk for breaking the stereotype that “high functioning” autistic people are geniuses, because he’s genuinely so fucking dumb I can hardly even fathom it.

[box-dwelling]

Baldurs gate 3 is very funny in that it brings together a group of people who under most circumstances would consider themselves a found family but just so happens to have populated the group with soley people who would be vehemently against calling it that

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★ 015 // “Thermal Label Print”

[chiropire]

A sentiment I see sometimes, mostly in the high masking level 1 LSN autistic community, is the disdain for all labels about how impaired you are, especially the autism levels and support needs.

A lot of what I see is people saying they're bad, there's no need for them and that they have no use, that they're basically functioning labels and ableist, that we shouldn't be comparing ourselves and each other, and that they somehow don't include high masking people.

None of these things are true, they ignore the fact that often these labels are self-identifiers, and honestly, I think when having discussions on terminology like autism levels and support needs, the voices of levels 2-3 and HrSN people need to be centred. We're the people who need these terms, we're the people who often depend on them to actually communicate our needs, so when people go around saying these terms are bad without having so much as an afterthought about us it is really upsetting and hurtful.

I've seen people say we don't need the terms because we can just explain the supports we need as if it was so easy to do so. Many of us have such complex needs that trying to explain them all the time isn't possible.

[zebulontheplanet]

“I don’t like the terms high support needs and low support needs because they just remind me of functioning labels”

You realize that it’s not bad for someone to need more support then you, right? You realize that people needing more or less support than you is a thing, right? You realize that maybe we still need labels to get the point across and build community within a community, right?

You realize that the lives of higher support needs people and lower support needs people are different so they need something to connect with eachother, right?

If you don’t and still think that…then maybe you need to work on yourself.

[ask-spiderpool]

Hi sorry, I mightve missed something...?

I was obsessed with your comics a few years ago, loved em, (saw em on pinterest bc I was a small teenager who wasn't allowed on tumblr), kinda fell off a bit, then hopped back on recently, now that I do have a tumblr

Anyway, I've been getting a few mixed things from what I'm reading and I'm a tad confused,

Biggest thing, is Wade trans? At what point did that get mentioned, if so? (I'm sorry I'm just a little lost atm lol)

Good for him tho, I'm proud of how much the boys have grown since I last saw em :]

Between you and me, he’s sooooaking wet with genderfluid.

Which, for me (and him), kind of falls under the trans/NGC umbrella ☔️ - and it’s probably what he means for Peter, too. Peter’s just assuming the worst. (He has a much more simplistic view of things, even though he’s dating the most complex man on earth. Wade contains multitudes.)

[deplcythebattery]

why are functional disorders not seen as real? why is the functional part what makes people think it's not real? i'm autistic and struggling to grasp why the word functional means not real to a lot of people. like. it's a functional disorder. it affects functioning. why is that not a big deal? why does that make it not real like other disorders that aren't labeled functional disorders?

also why does it not count as a real disability if it's functional?

edit: there's a really good reply in the reblogs from @ciderjacks if others are wondering this too!

[auschizm]

It's important to note that the labels high functioning and low functioning are there to compare your functioning level to that of other autistic people only. Compared to neurotypicals, we're ALL low functioning. But that's not who those labels were created to compare us to

[nickythehickey]

thomas the high functioning boy i love you

[the-august-one]

BBC's Sherlock: I'm a high functioning sociopath.

Me: Sherlock, functioning labels can be really harmful. "Low support needs sociopath" is the better terminology. Also, you're not a sociopath, you're just a huge twat sometimes.

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[aroaceleovaldez]

actually one of the details that frustrates me the most from TSATS, relating to how much the book completely erases or absolutely bastardizes neurodivergence, is how Percy's cameo is characterized.

One of the consistent things aspects of Percy's relationship with the education system throughout the series is that Percy is smart, and he does try in school, but he has a learning disability. The only reason he gets bad grades is because he has a learning disability and the way the modern american education system is built is inherently at odds with that. In the first series we actually have explicit references to Percy doing better in school when he's in environments that actually accommodate for his disabilities! It's not that he's not trying, he's disabled.

So it is so disheartening and horrible to see Percy characterized in TSATS as just being disinterested in school, and his failing grades being made a joke about implying him ditching classes because he just doesn't care. That's the number one ableist thing ADHD/dyslexic students hear! Implying that they "just don't care" and dismissing their disabilities. It is so horrible to see that joke being made in the Percy Jackson series of all franchises. Especially when you add that on to the rest of the quite frankly ableist characterizations in TSATS and how much the book erases Nico and Will's disabilities/neurodivergence.