#georges psyche

[phoneybeatlemania]

Previous anon. I think you're right that I chose the wrong time to jump into the discussion. Because George's relationship with Paul really isn't the main thing I struggle with. George's general jokes about the Beatles (especially when they feel directed at fans), occasionally Ringo, and others also make me feel this way. It's more an overarching thing around how to be funny and kind silmultaniously. But I think you still made a really good point about British humor that is helpful to me. (1/2)

Anon Ask 2:  I'm not English and maybe cultural differences play a bigger in role in my discomfort than I recognized.

Reference to last ask

Hiya again! Thanks for getting back to me on this :)

When it comes to making a more general point about Georges sense of humour (and whether the things he said really were Just Jokes, or if they went any further then that), I think theres an interesting discussion to be had there. And while I think his sardonic and deprecating humour was for the most part harmless (or intended to be harmless), theres times where humour can definitely be used as a malicious tool, so within some contexts I think you could make a solid point. 

The thing about George’s mockery of the group though (which included specific members and fans), is that I think this was a way of dealing with fame for him? Like if I had to deal with That Amount of fame, I can imagine that the only even remotely healthy coping strategy I would have would be to just joke about it a lot; so I guess its just worth keeping in mind that theres only so many ways one can go about dealing with immense fame.

When it comes to like Cultural Boundaries, I obviously wouldn’t know where in the world you’re from anon, but if perhaps you’ve grown up somewhere where humour isn’t generally very sarcastic or dry I could see why some jokes would rub off as insensitive, but ultimately his jokes (about the band, fans, legacy etc.) aren’t ultimately going to be representative of his entire experience with fame, legacy and/or the band. It was just a complicated relationship that Im sure he had with all these things. 

There was something interesting I read in Teatles Fanzine recently, which id like to share because it just brings to mind how much George really struggled with fame:

Beatlemania took a genuine toll on George. In the Anthology he said, “All the time, constantly, I felt frightened by things.” As early as 1963 he was having reservations. Allistair Taylor recalled an incident where George had failed to show up to the airport when The Beatles were meant to be flying to London from Liverpool. Taylor phoned him to find out what was going on, and he responded, “I don’t want to be a Beatle.” This cause Taylor to panic enough to go talk to him in person. He stated, “George didn't like all the pressure and the frenzy of the crowds and the fans.”

—Anxiety and the Quiet Beatle by Rose, The Teatles Anthology

As I said in the beginning of my response, I do think theres room for deeper discussions about Georges jokes, and whether they were harmless or hurtful. I would advise you though to just keep in mind that his experience with fame is something none of us are likely to ever be able to truly understand—so while it can be difficult to comprehend some his actions or choice in words, imo we should try remain somewhat sympathetic to that experience too. And while I wouldn’t personally want to ‘psychoanalyse’ George or anything because I don’t consider my self That Much of an expert, what i’ll say is that separating himself from the myth and the legacy I think in part was just a way of staying sane for him, because at the end of the day, he was just a guy*.

[*I think in particular as well, George just didn’t really have the personality type of someone whose kind of Built to do well under fame. Like the amount of fame they all experienced Im sure would take a toll on anyone, but I think theres certain people who would find it more manageable just because it suits Who They Are better, if that makes sense.]

But I can tell from the way you’re writing anon that like, you’re not necessarily seeking out things to dislike about him or trying to be hyperbolic etc. Like I do get that sometimes things about these men are just Hard to understand, because their lives are just Very Different to any of ours. So I appreciate that, and as I say, its a discussion worth having—I just think its important too to try and understand things from his perspective though. 

[wise-lizard-wizard]

Oh my god, I'm rewatching Psych and I just realised Shawn literally gaslit George Takei and it worked. He gaslit a lot of people in this episode actually.

(Season 1 episode 8)

Shawn is the real Mansplain, Manipulate, Manwhore. The real Gaslight, girlboss, gatekeep.

[buckevantommy]

kudos to Psych for getting George Takei to play George Takei while getting William Shatner to play Juliet's dad in a universe where OG Star Trek and Kirk absolutely do exist but he's just some doppelganger or sm *handwavey fun* no one is doing it like them

[standupcomedyhistorian]

Good morning!

I know it's been a long time since I've posted (I've finally settled in to my new home with my boyfriend Jeff), but I had to write about my new favorite comedy thing right now:

EVERYBODY'S IN L.A.!

There have been two live episodes so far (Coyotes and Palm Trees), but the chaotic and absurd nature of the program has been an absolute BLAST to watch, and I am totally digging John Mulaney's new look lol.

If you're a fan of improv comedy or just want to see some of your favorite comics sitting in a 1970s living room set getting snacks from a roving robot (Saymo scared the SHIT out of Jon Stewart last night on multiple occasions lol), then I urge you to watch.

The episodes are live at 10pm ET, and there are four topics left:

Helicopters

Ghosts

Earthquakes

LA

And so many fun guest stars will be showing up, including my boys Gil and George! (Oh...HELLO)

Have you been watching? What do you think of John's talk show format? Doesn't it sound similar to what he proposed about interviewing experts in that ill-fated 2020 GQ article?

But I always wanted to do a talk show where the guest is always someone from a job that I don't understand. I'd love to interview a dog catcher and be like, "What is that like? How do you feel about yourself? I'm not judging, but I am a little. How do you feel rounding up dogs and taking them to the pound?" I had two ideas for a talk show once. And by ideas, I mean I thought about them in the privacy of my own room. One would be just interviewing people who do anything that interests me. And I don't mean like on the ground and I'm watching them do their job. It would be like a talk show set and they'd come out and there'd be a band and so forth.

Anyway, I hope you all enjoy the rest of the episodes, and keep it here for more comedy fun! ✌🏼🐔

[pennielane]

the beatles in the studio: a case study 

[arctic-hands]

I say this as someone who has in fact been in the psych ward, but also as someone who spends about every other month in some other ward of the hospital and that's not even including all the E.R trips

But I'm completely baffled as to how "grippy socks" became synonymous to "psych ward" specifically bc they give hospital socks to everyone who gets to and beyond the emergency room. Sometimes you're not even in the hospital proper, they'll give you gown and socks for some exams and scans

[thestarsarecool]

George and Paul, playing together in 1979 (!) at the wedding of Eric Clapton and Pattie Boyd. This photo was apparently published in Pattie’s new book, My Life in Pictures.

[daisymintt]

Merlin: I agree… Not.

[laughs]

Merlin: Said the liar.

George: I'm not sure those two go together. "Said the liar" cancels "Not" out.

Merlin: So does your face!

[fuyupersimmons]

"I Want To Hold Your Hand b/w I Saw Her Standing There" (2023) 8"x8" analog collage

felt compelled to make thiis.... there's an audio component i'll post later :)

[dreaminghelaena]

— helaena targaryen

[russilton]

*spraying them with the spray bottle* no praise kink at Seb’s arts n crafts for f1 drivers

[thyla]

PSYCH- S1E08 | Shawn vs. the Red Phantom ↳ Why are you telling people you're my assistants? Because we are your assistants.

[emiko-fan-2podcasterin]

People I would pay big money for to get them in the same room: