#how hungry deltarune

[chancedied]

Fun fact! Hampsters eat their children!

Also would you believe me if I said this is my first time doing realism? (Obviously I used alot of reference but still)

I wanted to do the "how hungry" meme after seeing the MLP one because it was funny and made me laugh really hard

[hollypies]

She!! The Noelle

[factual-fantasy]

( DEVOURING your deltarune au like a fine- dining cuisine )

You've written a lot of angst for grillby, asgore, and seam, but is there anything you've thought of for jevil ?

I do have angst for Jevil thank you for asking! :DD

I have a couple ideas for Jevil angst. Things that could upset him and cause him to flip out. One of which being his crippling claustrophobia post imprisonment.. But the biggy is his anxiety surrounding Seams health.

I changed the story a bit more. I'm thinking that Jevil rescued Seam early on, and they traveled the multiverse together. But eventually they began to realize that something was wrong with Seam..

These shackles around his wrists and neck, they are weakening him. They are designed to restrain ones magic, by kind of.. draining their magic/energy? Anytime Seam tries to use his magic in any way, it takes a great deal of his energy. And it takes him days to recover from performing even light forms of magic.

This has rendered him basically defenseless. He is constantly hungry, tired, and cold. He has no energy to spare and can hardly walk most of the time.

This whole situation has destroyed Jevil. He is desperate to break the chains, but no one can. He has kidnapped people from other AUs trying to find someone that can help. He has constant anxiety wondering if he will wake up one day and Seam will be dead. He cant lose Seam. He just cant.

He tries to find food for Seam to get his energy back up. But you'd be surprised how hard it is to find food that 1; Darkeners can digest. And 2; Food that Seam can physically eat. Those stitches on his mouth rule out a lot of foods..

Seam is always so tired and aching, but Jevil cant find anywhere soft for him to sleep. He's always hungry but he cant find enough food. He desperately needs to break these chains but he cant find anyone that can or knows how.

He's so scared for Seam. He's scared that he cant provide everything Seam needs and he will eventually die.. the thought of it keeps him up at night..

[krispdreemurr]

thinking about Undertale and Deltarune and the appeal of solvable problems

people joke about how like a lot of Undertale is people monologuing their way through their own issues at a six year old but like, that's sort of the fantasy. the presence of a frisk that has been a good person is enough to resolve things. simply by being there and by being good the world becomes better, others encouraged to take action to improve things. not everything is solved by the end, but it's still implied even in those cases that flowey is a little better off and maybe chara is too. everything is resolvable and can be reconciled if simply there is enough good

deltarune has some obvious crit of that concept early, with pacifism alone not being enough to take down king spades, ofc. but even though that goes poorly, you're still rescued and still end up okay, and the kingdom's Darkners are still saved. susie makes friends, lancer is better off, things will improve. and thru ch2 that continues - Noelle gets strong enough to stand up for herself, queen backs down when told what's going on and resolves to do better, everything improves. your presence is enough. your actions are enough. every complication will be solved if you stay resolved.

(there's exceptions to this like jevil and spamton and like. snowgrave could be its whole other post. but theyre all a little meta breaky so)

i think a lot about the things Noelle talks about when all the kids discuss making another dark world. a world where anything can be healed with a little spell. a world where she has the tool she needs to make her problems solvable, just by virtue of needing it.

but, of course, that brings us to the fact that a lot of the problems in Deltarune Can't be solved with our presence. in the body of a 16 year old who's anchored to a world, we can't do much to help with Susie's home life, or Rudy's health, or the broken Dreemurr family. you can't pacifist hard enough that cancer gives up and apologizes. there's no game mechanical tool to compliment susie out of being hungry. the world refuses to yield to being "good enough"; the light world sequences stay more or less the same no matter what you're doing (as if. something something choices)

and, of course, at the heart of this there's kris. fundamentally, nothing we do with our presence can help Kris, bc the problem there. is our presence. no kindness or cruelty can change that. through our existence the problem there becomes unsolvable, the exact opposite of frisk's existence making things solvable

idk I just think it's neat

[supper122]

Deltarune: Swatched Fates master post

deltarune: swatched fates (witch im just going to call SF) is an au i made last summer when i was really really bored and it isnt my best work but i kinda like it

the story goes that spamtons little helper guy on the phone never stopped helping him, spamton continued to get more and more powerful until he eventually became this jeff bezos-like capitalist villain.

everything in the cyber world is owned by him pretty much, all the products are manufactured by his company, etc

obviously, the queen wanted in on all his popular stuff, so she started selling it in the shop in her castle. because of the addison that moved in to sell it, swatch lost his job

when you arrive at the part where you would normally meet spamton for the first time, you instead meet swatch. he hasnt gone as insane as spamton would have, hes more just depressed and hungry

when he meets you he recognizes that youre a lightner, and you could help him. swatch has knowledge about the neo body, and wants you to bring him to it so he can fight spamton, probe hes better, and get his job back

you can load swatch onto the empty disc and take him to the basment, as you would have with spamton, you put him into the neo body and...

nothing happens, you can leave the basment entirely and head back to the main room of the castle, where the addison shop is

at this point, spamton and a few goons have arrived to perform a quality check on the shop, you'll notice they have significantly cleaner and more expensive clothes than nearly every other person in the dark world, the exception being the queen of course

at this point, the lights go out, and then turn red, green, and blue interchangeably (they flash alot, so if for some reason anyone ever animates this there will be an epilepsy warning)

swatch decends from the ceiling, attatched to a bunch of differently colored strings, and immediately beats the shit out of spamton and the addisons after a minor fight

he then turns to you

he explains he doesnt know what the strings are, but they're restricting him, he needs you to cut them and set him free

a fight begins, still in the main room of the castle, it plays out similarly to the spamton neo fight except more swatch-themed

at the end, weather you fight or cut the strings, swatch will fall and die similar to normal spamton

the rest of the game plays out how it usually would, as this is near the end of the game, however youll notice in the city backdrops that most of the billboards are no longer lit up

[a-otter-appears]

What Your Favorite Deltarune Chapter 1 Song Says About You!

(CHAPTER 2 LINK)

ANOTHER HIM: You my friend are one of the biggest daydreamers ever, you concern me. (Also see: Gaster's Theme)

Beginning: You enjoy having a community by your side! You want to make a better future and teach the younger generations everything you know: From stories, history, to anything else. (Also see: Don't Forget, Once Upon a Time, Reunited)

School: You wish school was as happy as this. (Also see: Don't Forget, Once Upon a Time)

The Legend: D&D enjoyer, or perhaps you like any story with cool heroes. (Also see: Empty Town)

Lancer: If you tried to mug someone they would just laugh in your face. You're not the most serious person, but definitely not the most boring! (Also see: Thrash Machine, Vs. Lancer)

Rude Buster: Now if YOU tried to mug someone, it would probably work. You're more of a talk now, think later person. (Also see: Determination)

Empty Town: You quietly enjoy your interests by yourself, rarely telling others IRL about them, or maybe that's because you have no one you can share them with. (Also see: The Legend)

Field of Hopes and Dreams: YOU ARE AN ADVENTURER! You love going to new places and experiencing new events. Even if along the way you hesitate to keep moving forward, you go one foot at a time to witness the best you can see. (Also see: Don't Forget, Scarlet Forest)

Lantern: I feel as if you smell like old fabrics. People find you strange, yet still hang around you. You really don't care what they do at this point. (Also see: The Legend, Rude Buster)

Checker Dance: Please, stop asking people to dare you to lick the floor. You are not a dog.

Quiet Autumn: So, so, so badly want to be an anime protagonist. (Also see: Scarlet Forest, Waterfall)

Scarlet Forest: You observe from far away, noticing the little details in everything, which might cause you to neglect actually... spending time with people. But those closest to you understand that you yearn to go on a journey, you need to feed that hungry mind of yours. (Also see: Quiet Autumn, Field of Hopes and Dreams, Don't Forget, Gaster's Theme)

Thrash Machine: You can't build furniture, please save everyone time and put the screwdriver down. (Also see: Lancer, Vs. Lancer)

Vs. Lancer: Giving you caffeine is a VERY bad idea. You become a hyperactive God that can barely stand still. (Also see: Lancer, Thrash Machine)

Vs. Susie: I can tell you have a lot of issues, so many that you let it bubble up inside you and burst when you can't hold them back anymore. Please treat the pain you feel, and don't let it tear you apart.

Card Castle: For some reason I feel like you shouldn't be in charge of anything. Not my first choice to pick as the leader. (Also see: Lancer)

Rouxls Kaard: JUST BECAUSE YOU COULD READ AT A 9TH GRADE LEVEL IN 3RD GRADE DOESN'T MAKE YOU-

Hip Shop: You dream of being in a coffee shop AU.

Chaos King: Now here's the REAL person to put in charge. You do kind of scare people, but they quickly learn it's just how your badass personality is! (Also see: The Legend, Lancer)

Darkness Falls: You really need to stop staying awake so late and ACTUALLY get some sleep.

The Circus: If you keep on plotting how to take down your enemies you will never move on. (Also see: The Legend, The World Revolving)

THE WORLD REVOLVING: You can be crazy, but in a fun lighthearted way! You love entertaining others and the attention they give you. Once you're in your element, no one can stop you. (Also see: The Circus, Don't Forget)

Friendship: GENERALLY ONE OF THE SWEETEST PEOPLE EVER! You treasure your friends so dearly, and let them know you do everytime you think of it. You need to practice WAY more self care for yourself though. (Also see: Don't Forget)

A Town Called Hometown: You enjoy sitting outside, watching people do whatever. You like seeing the simple openings into people's life and humanity in general. (Also see: Snowdin Town, Hopes and Dreams, Don't Forget)

You Can Always Come Home: GOD YOU ARE HOMESICK! But you have hope that soon, you can come home. (Also see: Home, Undertale, Don't Forget)

Don't Forget: You are a mystery unto yourself. It's almost impossible to understand you.

BONUS!

Dogcheck: Younger sibling energy.(Also see: Dogsong, Once Upon a Time)

[supercomputerz]

every time i eat a snickers i think of the jerma bit (because i have adhd) where hes playing deltarune chapter 2 and in response to capns dialogue having the word snicker in it he goes on a tangent (because he also has adhd) about how nobody actually wants to eat a snckiers when theyre hungry and chats loke "you eat it for the peanuts" and jerma is like "then just eat peanuts"

[starlit1daydream]

so i finally did it: flowey the flower's classpect & asriel dreemurr

obligatory disclaimer that this post will include massive spoilers for undertale and undertale yellow.

let's get the obvious out of the way first - what is flowey's ASPECT? this is something that i feel is pretty obvious, he's a very clear-cut doom player.

he deals with inevitability and predestination, has a very nihilistic and cynical worldview based on his soulless perception of the world and the repetitions he's gone through, and he's associated a lot with some very morbid and edgy imagery. in particular, i think it's his manipulations with fate and inevitability that solidify him as a player of doom (save states and such). it's for this same reason that i believe sans is a doom player, but that's for another essay.

what's his class? well, let's get into how flowey experiences doom.

flowey's existence, from the very moment of his creation, has been defined by doom. an inability to die or cessate his own existence that leads to a plethora of lives full to the brim with death, experiments with predestination and a general morbid curiosity. flowey does things until he's exhausted every single possible outcome of the situation, and then he moves on to the next until he's sucked all novelty and nuance out of it, effortlessly manipulating doom and making it bend to his whim.

a lot of people would be quick to place him as a witch because of this, but personally i think that flowey's absolute will and dominion places him at an even higher tier.

flowey isn't a witch, he is a lord of doom. he holds absolute control over the aspect of doom, exhibiting full control over inevitability and decay in every facet.

let's just look at some of the things flowey does. he subjects clover to countless resets and deaths at his hand for his own amusement, sets up the denizens of the underground like little dolls for him to play with until they break apart, all the while plotting to grasp more control and seize true dominion. he's a textbook lord, endlessly determined and power-hungry as he lets nothing stand in the way of his goal (acquisition of the SOULs). much in the same way, we see caliborn's quest for power leaving similar destruction in its wake and he holds the same determination, hell, they're even associated with the same laugh soundbyte! the similarities are all there, and the stunted mental development definitely shows for both of them given they're a kid who never properly got the chance to grow up.

in fact, it's the link to caliborn that brings me to my next point. what of asriel?

simple. in the same way the caliborn has his calliope, the muse of space, flowey has his asriel, the muse of life. this may sound contradictory to the asriel we see in the finale of undertale, but i propose that this is an asriel still under the throes of the inversion that brings flowey his classpect.

their true classpect has always been the muse of life, it's merely that flowey's soulless state brings about an inversion that is only 'fixed', if you will, after asriel is brought back to normality.

the real asriel is much like a muse. he is tender, emotional, caring, perhaps a little weak-willed or timid at times. he is the narrative's driving force but in a wholly passive manner. throughout the whole game asriel is the inspiration that hangs over the plot (throughout BOTH games in fact, his role in deltarune very much cements his role as a muse) but we never see him until the final hour. much like a muse, he has become his aspect for the sake of the narrative. life, of course, represents growth, affluence, the natural energy of all things, and uses both baking and plant-life as symbolism. consider what asriel and chara used for their plot, and what flowey is now, and those two symbols make a lot more sense.

so, though asriel and flowey have two separate classpects by technicality, they are still the same person and it's a inversion similar to that people say rose underwent during her descent into 'grimdarkness', going from a seer of light to a witch of void.

now, this is a controversial statement to make because a lot of homestuck fans question the validity of the 'inversion' argument, saying that it's never explicitly stated in canon and to that i say that homestuck is quite possibly the poster child for 'death of the author'. i want you to bear in mind this is my personal view on the subject and homestuck's fanbase has never been one to agree on any concrete interpretations of the classpect system.

that's all from me. until next time, tumblr.

[edith-is-a-cat]

Answer any or all I wanna know more about you 👁️👁️

Do you have freckles? 

 Do you drink tea or coffee? How do you take it? 

What was the last song you listened to? 

Do you sleep on your back, stomach or side? 

Do you sleep with a stuffed animal? 

Do you prefer drawing or writing? 

What’s your ideal number of blankets to sleep with? 

What’s your favorite band/artist? 

When is your birthday? 

How tall are you? 

What color are your eyes? 

Who are five (or more) people you want to hug right now? 

Fears? 

What’s your favorite color? 

What’s your favorite season? 

Want any tattoos? What of? 

Want any piercings? Where? 

Who is the last person you texted? 

Do you have a best friend? How long have you been friends? 

What/who do you miss? 

How was your day today? 

How much sleep did you get last night? 

Do you believe in aliens? 

When was the last time you cried? Why? 

What’s your favorite decade? 

What are some seemingly childish things you like? 

What’s your favorite book? Or just one you’ve read a few times? 

How are you, really? 

Does it take you a long time to make decisions? 

What are you looking forward to in the near future? 

What are you looking forward to in the distant future? 

If you could go anywhere right now, where would you go? 

Do you sleep with your door open or closed? 

What’s your favorite flower? 

Do you currently have a squish? 

Do you like your middle name? 

Do you prefer dogs or cats? 

Do you have any phobias? 

Do you stay up late?

Do you like the beach? Do you prefer it sunny or cloudy? 

What’s your favorite cartoon? 

Tag 5 of your favorite blogs

Do you have siblings? How many? 

Who was the last person you said “I love you” to? 

Is there anyone you would die for? 

What do you need when you’re sad? 

Have you memorized your phone number? 

Who’s someone you can trust with your life? 

What does your last text say? 

Wild Card. Any question, ask away. 

good word here we go,

I used to have sun freckles i miss them a lot

Tea, coffee, and energy drinks and as sweet as i can get them, i usually use honey bc bees are cool

Toes - Glass Animals https://open.spotify.com/track/754wVXWrtf1X3ZHQOFFsnR?si=_GYqckcFRpysg3N7yFNrjA

I roll in bed like a hot dog on a roller but usually side

Yes. five.

Drawing, writing is hard for me but since when i get a flow. I prefer the defining of art though

Okay so 5-6. 1 heating blanket, 1 super soft and thick blanket, 1 big ass blanket, 1 quilt/comforter/heavy blanket, 1-2 light soft blankets

Glass Animals

7/1

7'9/175 cm

Green???

Sam (the only one i can acc hug soon), Xen (we will get there), Aster, Auburn, Grim, Silver, Malleus, Lilia, Sebek, Idia

Idk?

Pink :3

Fall

Little Idia and Ortho icon on the outer facing sides of my wrists, annoying dog right wear he can peak out of short socks, as many deltarune weapons as possible on my left arm

Angel bites, Bridge, eyebrow, and a second ear piercing

Xen :3

I would say sam is my best friend? i don't get how friends work exactly but we have been friends for one year and three months

Xen's voice :((( and that cake from fresh

I felt uber sick and went home but im great now

Enough

Yes

I don't remember

90s/2000s

carrying a plushie around (imo should be socially acceptable

Howls moving castle, Small steps: the year i got polio, and Tales from the gas station (all volumes)

hungry i really want that cake and mad I NEED MORE BOOK 7!!!!

A while...

Cruise :3

Seeing Vivi randomly and driving to see yall and force yall to watch howl's moving castle

Oregon, or moot trip to japan

CLOSED THAT SHIT STAY CLOSED

Foxgloves

..?? A squish???? googles it,,, oh?? Yes i believe

Yes i like to say two of my names show up in the book Frankenstein because of it

I love them both so much

Emetophobia i believe

you could call it a hobby

Cloudy and yes!!!

GRAVITY FALLS.

nOOO

two, counting the dead ones: 4

xen

too many people

my bed and access to tumblr so o can complian (and maybe get comfort but what ever happens happens)

YES AND MY MOM'S!!!

Xen

"GIGGLEW"

GIMMIE QUESTION

[patchwork-crow-writes]

I know the poly Ralsei thing is partially a crack theory, but ngl that "one valentine" word in Ralsei's letter is pretty sus. Call me crazy but pretty sure that Toby intentionally put that word instead of the more general thing like "Maybe there’s someone you’re interested in… But I’d be happy if you could also accept my feelings!" lol

He's certainly captivated a lot of people, hasn't he? :P

Though in all seriousness, I think it depends on how you interpret the term Valentine. You could certainly make the argument that it's meant in a romantic context, since the holiday is most closely associated with romantic love. But it also feels like there's a growing sense that it can also encompass friendship love, as well. Platonic Valentines are very much a thing, and honestly I think that's kind of beautiful.

Another thing to consider is the potential recipient of such a card. Now I know that they're jokes sent to people in the newsletter and all that, but there are some interesting details to glean from a few of them (see the growing popularity of the Vaster/Gaster has literally shattered into multiples of himself theory making the rounds). And you could make the argument that, given Ralsei's knowledge of game mechanics and his... interesting behaviour around Kris, he actually intended for this card to be received by us - the players of Deltarune.

And perhaps it's meant for Kris, because we know that Ralsei does think the world of them, and he blushes around them in that exact manner as well. But note that his other cards are addressed to Susie and Lancer (there's also the... other one, but we'll get to that). And it's not like Ralsei is particularly shy about directing compliments at Kris themself. The lack of a recipient's name here is telling, I think.

Now, does it follow that he's trying to rope us all into a gigantic globe-spanning Ralsei-centered harem? Honestly that idea is pretty hilarious! But I think mainly that this card's purpose - such as it is - is to add another log to the fire of the whole "Ralsei is aware of us as players and appears to be addressing us directly" theory. It might be his way of expressing appreciation to us for playing the game - after all, our actions are what enables the story to progress and the prophecy to be fulfilled. Given that, I'm not entirely sure that fluffy boy has it in him to seduce literal gods... however much of an effect he might have on people! :P

...there again he also wants to be stepped on, so maybe he is just hungry for love XD

[bettinalevyisdetermined]

Hi! This is my first time asking something to someone, buuuut, when was your first experience with both the game undertale, and the fandom?

Aw, honored to be the first Tumblr person you send an ask to! ^_^

I suppose that would have had to be around the end of 2015, I can't remember exactly. I was making random YouTube videos, and @jayalaw became a fan and later friend, and it was she who told me about this game she was becoming obsessed with, where you're a child that falls underground and either fights or befriends the monsters there. I wasn't much of a gamer, so I was like "cool," and then didn't think about it for a while.

Eventually I remembered about Undertale when I saw Markiplier start to play the game. His voice for Toriel was way over the top. XD He only had a couple of videos out for the playthrough at that point, so I looked for someone else, and that's how I discovered Jacksepticeye's channel and his Undertale videos! I watched him play the Pacifist Run, and then the Genocide Run, and when that was over, I realized I was still hungry for more!

From there I found all kinds of fan content! Animations, original songs and parodies, people voicing fan comics, people dressing up as the characters, the multitudes of theories and lore digging, and all the popular AUs! Then as 2016 began, I started posting my own original lyrics for the OST tracks, and then doing voices for the comics I really liked.

That was basically the beginning of my journey. I'm still a huge fan of Undertale and Deltarune and Toby Fox projects in general, but I've grown a lot and drifted away from making ONLY Undertale content, and I feel much happier for it. ^_^

[mythicaldemigoddess-of-deltarune]

Which One Would You Have Mammon (from Helluva Boss) Marry As His One True Love Perfect Match And Be His Eternal Life-Partner...In Fanon/Non-Canon.

yeah, I was going to wait to do a poll, maybe the next time I log back in...and the post that came first before this one was going to be the last one until the next time I came back on here...

in a Multi-Crossover, you know ya shouldn't put Doctor Emily Grey and Niffty in the same room with someone who is wounded even if they could regenerate...

when you take two crazy women and leaving them alone, and then they bond...they are likely to scare both Doc (who has O'Malley personality in his head.) and Valentino...maybe even Mammon.

that should be really fun to see, I wouldn't mind seeing that. XD

so yeah, of course some of this Crossover Ship Poll would be like 100 & Non-Canon...and it doesn't just have Adam and Stella as the choices...

also if Niffty or Doctor Grey win, we know Mammon's fate is sealed...

but who knows who will win Mammon in this poll, even if it is Fanon.

couldn't add anymore choices, and the clone of Shepard can be either the Male or Female Default Character of the Commander Shepard from Mass Effect...

I almost added Tucker from Red Vs Blue as one of the choices, but then I decided to go with Grey instead...

I also want to say that.....I had originally made Lady Alcina Dimitrescu as one of the choices, with it being like [ Mammon Should Marry Lady Alcina Dimitrescu (their ship name can be Mamtrescu...!) ]...

but then the idea of wanting to ship him with Lancer's Dad from Deltarune pop into my head...and I did do a crossover fan art that has Lancer mistakes Mammon as his Dad...so yeah, decided to replace Lady Dimitrescu with Lancer's Dad King Spade of The Card Kingdom...

anyway hope some like this weird crossover ship poll, have fun with your choice on who you think Mammon should marry, even if it wont ever be canon and it will be fanon only.

anyway the time limit for this wont be 1 day but 1 week instead, so there will be time for some to see this and pick who they would ship Mammon to in both as OTP (One True Pairing) and in Marriage...

so good luck voting on the fate of The King Of Greed from Helluva Boss, even if it is Fanon...and the ship name Mamtella, that is suppose to be Mammon and Stella's ship name...it still reminds me of food, like maybe like a parody of Nutella.

and yeah, as weird as it sounds there was that one time their ship name made me hungry...cause once again, their ship name reminds me of food...and who knows how many will end up using that ship name besides me...

anyway I'm going to go back to checking out some art on here.

which I'm going to check out some Adammon ship drawings.

[darkhymns-fic]

The Strongest Card...Is Friendship?!

It was just an old deck of playing cards, the kind Susie carried around whenever she was bored or hungry. She hadn’t even known she’d brought it to the Dark World. But here it was, packed into a tattered-looking tuck box on the ground that Lancer eagerly picked up.

“Is this pocky? I like pocky! But I can’t have any before dinner.” He poked at the box opening, giggling. “Can I have one?”

Fandom: Deltarune Characters: Susie, Lancer, Ralsei Rating: G Word Count: 2568 Mirror Link: AO3 Notes: Happy to finally share my fic I wrote for the Color Cafe Deltarune zine arranged by @scarletscarveszines! Thank you again for letting me participate alongside so many other great artists and writers. I've also included an extra scene in here that I originally couldn't fit into zine, so think of it as some extra flavor for it.

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On one of her birthdays, Susie was given a set of playing cards.

They were the kind with the numbers on both the top and bottom, with weird shapes she didn’t learn the names of yet. They hadn’t even been new, the box they were in frayed from the card flap opening.

“Is this even for kids?” she had asked. 

“You just break everything you touch,” someone said. She didn’t know who. Didn’t matter anyway. “Even you can handle these.”

Years later, during recess, once she did learn the stupid names of those symbols or whatever, she’d try her hand at them. Leaning against the brick wall in a shadowy corner (it just happened to look that way), she’d pull them from jean pocket. Her claws would scrape against the surface, sometimes obliterating an entire number, or drawing a jagged line through a heart. 

Just cut the cards, shuffle them, maybe play a little Go Fish by herself – which was all kinds of stupid to begin with. When that didn’t work, she tried guessing what would come next when she’d pull a card from the top of the deck, and would always get it wrong. Not like there was any reason to get it right anyway, but it still kind of pissed her off.

She guessed 4 of clubs, she got 8 of spades instead. She guessed 7 of hearts, she got the joker card. Didn’t she pull that out of the deck??

With a snarl and a huff, Susie threw the joker to the ground, tempted to grind it down to the dirt with her sneaker before she stopped herself. No. She wasn’t going to keep breaking things. So she picked it up, and shuffled again.

The problem was she wasn’t the only one hanging out behind the school. By the bleachers that faced the field-and-track, where a blonde-haired reindeer jogged along and leaving hoofprints in the dirt, she heard the snickers. They traveled to her so easily.

“Yo, you think that’s her lunch?” Through her hair, she glanced up to see a spiked, yellow head. They balanced themselves on the bleachers with some difficulty, which made sense when one didn’t have arms. “Like…she eats cards now instead of that gross chalk?”

A chilly laugh followed soon afterwards. “Looks like she’s…not playing with a full deck! Ha!”

“Haha… Wait, I don’t get it???”

A pause – she had stopped in the middle of her shuffling. One of the cards had loosened from its hold, but she couldn’t really tell just which. The ace? Or maybe that stupid joker card again. After putting the cards back in her pocket, she straightened, cracked her neck to the right, bared her teeth; just part of those little things to make people notice.

“Hey.”

She turned to give a full glare to the two chucklers that were still standing on top of those bleachers. Their laughter stopped immediately; their smiles frozen in place on their faces.

“Do you losers know how to whisper?” She marched towards them, wrapped a hand around one of the cool, metal poles of the bleachers that made up its back, and shook. It rattled and swayed, like a skyscraper in one of those monster movies she binged the other night. With a menacing grin, she used her other hand to grab hold, then proceeded to lift. Metal screeched as the bleachers were separated from the ground.

Out of the corner of her eye, she thought she saw a few of those runners stop and stare. Yeah. They always stared. Like she cared. 

“Maybe I need to teach you a lesson!”

“R-Run away!” She couldn’t tell who said that, and she didn’t care anyway. Maybe it was the armless punk who knew how to use his legs to scram, or the snowdrake who flapped his little chicken wings and tried to fly. 

Until at some point, she was back to holding up an empty set of bleachers. It was heavy, ugly, and stupid. But at least they stopped laughing.

She dropped it to the ground with a clang, dug in her hands in her pockets, then fixed her glare at the runners across the field. She wasn’t sure how many. 

“WHAT YOU ALL STARING AT?!”

Her shout echoed across the field, and just like that, the rest ran away. Probably because they were track-and-fielders. But also because they were scared of her.

Everyone always ran from her, didn’t they?

--

In the red forest, the Bad Guys were working on their evil plans.

“Here’s one, just repeat after me.” Susie cleared her throat, propped her axe on her shoulder, and gave her best snarl. “Where you been, you slow-ass pack of losers?! Ready to die?!” She then placed her weapon on the ground, leaning on it. “Okay, now you try.”

“Yeah, yeah, okay!” With his tongue perpetually sticking out and a rotund belly one could bounce Hearts Donuts off of (which they had already done to pass the time), her new blue buddy wasn’t exactly the most menacing thing she had seen in the Dark World. Then again, most things here weren’t anyway.

Lancer bounced on his feet, pointed at Susie, and shouted, “Hey there! You guys are as slow as a pack of sweet and tangy sugarplums! Get ready to take a comfy nap! And don’t forget to drink plenty of milk!” He finished it off with a twirl. “How was that?”

“…Uh… You didn’t repeat what I said at all. You just made everything sound delicious?? But hey, we’ll work on it.” She lifted her weapon again, grinning like mad. “Let’s just spar instead. Ya wanna see my Purple Thrasher?!” This was a step above her Red Buster, because Thrasher sounded way more sick.

“Oh, you know how much I love thrashing!” Grabbing his motorcycle out of thin air, Lancer hopped in and honked his little horn. “Now let’s eat!”

“Stop making everything about food!” A powerful purple flash of light rushed out of her weapon, aiming for one of the weird red trees. She was gonna demolish it–

“Oh, you dropped something, Susie!! You dropped something!”

“Huh?” Susie missed, her attack skewing far off to the right where the Bake Sale was being held. There was a big crashing sound, followed by terrified screaming, but that wasn’t important right now. “You messed me up, Lancer!”

With all the grace of a very bouncy ball, Lancer jumped off his motorcycle, laughing his evil laughter that still wasn’t that evil to begin with, though at least he made the ‘Ho ho ho’ deeper this time. “But Susie!! Look!” He hopped again, making (gross) splort noises towards the dropped item. “Hehe, butt Susie…”

It was just an old deck of playing cards, the kind Susie carried around whenever she was bored or hungry. She hadn’t even known she’d brought it to the Dark World. But here it was, packed into a tattered-looking tuck box on the ground that Lancer eagerly picked up.

“Is this pocky? I like pocky! But I can’t have any before dinner.” He poked at the box opening, giggling. “Can I have one?”

“Those are just some lame cards!” She quickly snatched it from Lancer’s hands, already halfway to shoving it back in her pocket. “Don’t touch my stuff!”

“O-Oh, I’m sorry.” Lancer suddenly deflated. “I guess that wasn’t a very Bad Guy thing for me to do…”

That instantly made her feel like trash.

Careful to first put her axe away, Susie took out the deck of cards from its place – looking even rattier than the box they’d been in. Some of the numbers had been scratched off by her claws, with the symbols all cracked and faded. The four of clubs was just a plain old club that looked wrecked, and the six of hearts was nearly broken in half.

“Yo, Lancer,” she called out, then proceeded to sit on the leaf-covered ground, leaning her arm on one knee. “Wanna check out some cool tricks I can do?”

At that, Lancer’s little sad face flipped; in fact, his whole bouncy body flipped, excited. “Oh, I love tricks! I used to know some guys who did that! I think they’re dead.” He sat across from her, his legs jittering and crushing the red leaves beneath them.

“Well this trick is gonna knock YOU dead!” she promised. Lancer gasped at the threat to his life, eager for more!

Susie gripped the pack of cards in her hands. She was going to do shuffle tricks. The kind that she saw on TV and looked rad as hell. All she had to do was not mess up. Easy. First, there was the riffle cut. It wasn’t as cool as the others, but the simple flipping of the cards in the middle gave that satisfying sound. It also got Lancer watching quietly. She did let a few cards slip free to fall to the ground, but those ones had been loose!  “T-That’s part of the trick!”

“Oh, okay!” Lancer instantly believed.

Then, she tried one of the butterfly cuts, separating a dozen cards at a time from each other, tilting them around. She tried to do it one-handed, but the balance was difficult, and, uh, maybe one or two more cards dropped to the ground. Lancer was still watching, even though she had fewer than 30 cards in her deck right about now.

But who cared about those baby shuffles? It was time for The Ultimate Shuffle. She’d been practicing this one! The waterfall cut was one of the coolest shuffles, and all she had to do was let each card fall from one hand into the other! She couldn’t mess this up!

“One, two, thre-!” And then the last of her cards flew all around herself, like leaves carried off in the wind. Oh. Oh, she had looked so lame there.

Susie waited for the laughter. She waited to feel stupid for ever trying something like this – but instead she heard… more splorts? (Still gross).. She raised her head, watching as Lancer went to pick up one card in particular. He looked… surprised? “Uh, Lancer?”

That was when he rushed to her, his smile wide, showing off his incredibly white teeth. The leaves kicked up in the air in his dash. “Hey! Why is there a mini-me in there? Susie! Do you carry pictures of me wherever you go?”

“No?? Why would I?” What was he even talking about??

Then she saw the ace of spades in his hand. It was just a simple, unimportant spade card. Oddly enough, this one wasn’t as messed up as the others. She supposed she had always liked the looks of this one for some reason…

Lancer clutched the card in his hand with glee. “Can I keep it? Can I? That’s so cool your trick could make a card of me! You’re so cool, Susie!”

Susie paused. “…You still think I’m cool?” she asked. Lancer nodded ecstatically.

Her lips tugged into a smile, one that didn’t show too many teeth or was the result of manic glee. She patted Lancer’s head roughly. The boy sort of squished underneath her strength, but didn’t seem to mind. “Sure. Take good care of it, ok?”

--

Within Ralsei’s giant castle, Susie only had eyes for the giant cauldron in the middle. Her hands were placed against the rim, staring down into its depths hungrily. “Susie,” Ralsei said with a gentle and only slightly chiding tone. “I told you: I’m not making you any more cakes!”

“Oh, come on! Just one more! I wanna catch it a second time!”

“But Susie!” shouted a familiar voice that made her turn towards the entrance with a smile. “You won’t have any room for my famous Lancer cookies, trademark pending!”

Lancer rolled in – literally, with his body on its side to gain maximum speed. He barreled into Susie, who took his impact right in the stomach. The force of the tackle made her hit the cauldron, dangerously tilting it to the side while Ralsei frantically went to right it up again. She gave her blue bestie a noogie, and Lancer tried to do the same, but couldn’t due to his incredibly short arms.

“Oh, Susie! Susie!” he yelled. “Look what I got! Can you show me more tricks?”

From a very hidden pocket, Lancer took out the ace of spades card, looking just as new as when she gave it to him – which hadn’t been very long ago at all. She grinned, taking out her deck of cards, full except for the special Lancer one. “Got all sorts of tricks up my sleeve!”

“Are you going to play a card game? I know quite a bit myself!” Ralsei clasped his hands together. “Is it blackjack? Crazy eights? Oh, or maybe Go Fish?”

Susie had to pause in her shuffling. “I’ve never heard of any of those games.”

“That’s so silly!” Lancer said. “There’s no fish in these cards!”

Susie ignored Ralsei’s nonsense, too busy finally perfecting her waterfall shuffle! Just as she was lifting up her hand and letting the cards fall, Lancer jumped up frantically with a very loud, “Wait!!!”

She flinched – and all the cards fluttered from her hands to drift to the floor. “H-Hey! I was just about to get it!”

“But you’re missing the most important card!”

Susie considered. “Is it yours?”

“Nope!” He turned to a politely-waiting Ralsei. “Fluffy boy! Can I have some paper and crayons please?”

“Well, that’s very sudden. But I just so happen to always carry some around!” Ralsei bewilderingly produced some sheets of paper and a crayon pack from his robes, happily handing it to an eager Lancer. Immediately, Lancer then began drawing furiously, head bent over the paper as he painstakingly outlined the most minute detail, even going so far as to shade – all with a purple crayon.

“Ta-da! Feast your silky smoothie eyes on this!” Lancer held up what could only be described as a very, very kick-ass drawing of Susie. It captured all her favorite features; namely her teeth and her giant muscles. Lancer also employed his stylistic choice of using jagged lines to show how rough and rugged she was. “Every card deck needs a Purple Thrasher, the most powerful card in existence!” With that, he handed it to Susie, along with his ace of spades – which she now realized had a drawn-on grinning face inside the symbol, complete with lolling tongue. “Next to mine, of course!”

“Lancer…” There was only one way she could repay such a kind and genuine act by her friend.

Clutching the two cards he gave her in her right hand, she then reached down to grab the other cards, and proceeded to devour them, tearing them to shreds with her teeth, one by one!!

Ralsei was the first to react. “S-Susie! You’re not supposed to eat those!”

But Lancer immediately caught on. “Oh, I get it! This is a new trick, isn’t it?”

“That’s right!” she said, her mouth full. “With these two cards, I don’t need the others anymore! Not unless they survive through all the carnage!”

“Can I play? I wanna play!” Lancer jumped up and down, his spade magic already materializing behind him, aiming for those same cards.

Susie grinned through the shreds of paper still clinging to her teeth, the happiest she ever felt in a long, long time. “Hell yeah!!”

[gojira007]

For the Emoji Meme! Asgore (Deltarune) 1D, Kris Dreemurr 3F, Noelle Holiday 1E, Ralsei 7E, Susie 5C, Toriel (Deltarune) 6F, Rudolph Holiday 1C, King 1B, Queen 1F, Rouxls Kaard 4B, Dr. Julian Robotnik 4A, Sally Acorn B1, Sonic 1D, Bunnie RAbbot 2E, Vector the Crocodile 2F, Espio the Chameleon 4E, Mina Mongoose B7, Shadow the Hedgehog 5E

lol tumblr wound up breaking the formatting on this so thoroughly that I could only post it in the longest way possible; sorry. >_<  Anyway....

“Tori…please.  I know how you feel, but…we shouldn’t fight.  Not now.  Not in front of Kris.”

It’s so rare to feel this way, but seeing them, together-with each other, with you-makes you…happy.  Truly, fully, for the first time in so long.

“It was the strangest dream…I was in that other world again, and there was this thing with fangs, and it bit me in the neck, and ever since I’ve just felt so, so…hungry….”

”I am doing my level best to keep it all in my head but I think if I have to try and fit any more details about Proper Etiquette in there from those Swatchlings I am going to literally explode!”

“N-Noelle?  How long have you been-?  What did you hear just now…?”

“Look at you all.  So small.  So frail.  Maybe if I break you badly enough, it’ll teach my son a lesson he will never forget.”

“I remember just how hard you tried to prove your Monsterness as a child.  ‘Bleh bleh bleh!’  It was simply adorable.”

“Ooh, I finally get to take part in one of these Meme thingies?  Delightful.  Lemme put on the right face!”

“…THAT’S what my name meaneth?  I…I need to thinketh my whole life overeth….”

“Oh Snively…normally I wouldn’t sully my hands on you.  But I’m afraid you’ve caught me in a very foul mood….”

“Just you watch, Tails…we leave this water balloon in the right spot, and it’ll make the best worst prank Sonic has ever seen.”

“She says, unaware that I am in fact standing right outside the door and can hear everything she’s saying.”

“Oh my stars, that smell…Sugah-‘Twan, is that fresh carrot soup?  I ain’t had a good carrot soup since who knows when!”

“Aww man, those high notes Mina hits…they’re just so righteous!”

“Say Espio…how did you figure out where Sally’s birthmark was?  Espio?  …you OK?”

“Aww man, cancellin’ the concert?  I know Sally means well, but this stinks.”

“Mawia, what color is the sky on Earth?  Mawia, what do flowers smell like?  Mawia, how does wind work?  Mawia….”

[pinkhuman99]

DR POKÉMON TEAMS

Susie!

1. Zweilous/Hydreigon: A multi-headed, always-hungry, dark type bully of a dragon Pokémon. Perfect for Susie. Its multiple heads eat anything and everything in its sight. Its previous evolutions are dinosaur-like, and always getting into trouble. Hair covers their faces and scars from battles and tussels cover their bodies. If Susie were a Pokémon, she'd be a Zweilous that evolves into a Hydreigon. In a weird way, I like to imagine the other two heads/hands on Hydreigon represent Susie's friends, Ralsei/Lancer and Kris. Hydreigon's body also somewhat resembles a Delta Rune, with a round body, wings, and three separate heads.

2. Gulpin/Swalot: This Pokémon is a reference not only to Susie's purple colour, but also her bottomless stomach that eats anything and everything it can. It's a poison type that can swallow anything whole and dissolve it with toxic, acidic fluids. It doesn't have teeth, but that doesn't stop it. I think its cute, round face fits Susie's personality better than the other Pokémon on her team, even if she would think the other Pokémon are cooler.

3. Haxorus☆: This is an axe dragon. So..this is an obvious one to put on Susie's team. But it's still a good one. I wanted Susie to have at least one shiny on her team, like Kris. Maybe it only becomes dark and shiny in the Dark World. Shiny forms aside, this Pokémon perfectly represents Susie's asscoiation with dragons and her use of an axe as a weapon in both chapters of Deltarune so far. It's big, it's strong, it's SHARP, so Susie would love to train this guy.

4. Pangoro: This Pokémon seems like a bully, but it really loves its friends. It's also a dark type, and Susie shares this Pokémon with Lancer to show their bond (except Lancer's Pancham is the pre-evolved form of Pangoro). Pangoro is a huge Pokémon that loves to eat and fight. It is somewhat based on the anime trope of Big Bad Gang Leaders.

5. Krokorok/Krookodile: It has specialized eyes that help it see in the dark. The female is usually the leader of a small group, and the males bring them food (kinda like how Susie gets Ralsei to give her cake). Its evolution is described as a very violent Pokémon that never lets prey escape. While I don't think this accurately portrays Susie's personality, I do think it is a Pokémon she would have. I think she wants other people to think of her like this Pokémon: big, mean, and scary. At the very least, she probably thinks it looks cool!

6. Morgrem/Grimmsnarl: Morgrem looks like Susie and evolves into a fairytale creature with an association to long hair, much like how Susie's axe in the dark world is really a hairbrush, and she has long hair that gets in her eyes. Its tail/hair looks like a pikestaff, an axe-like weapon. It absorbs negative thoughts and turns it into energy, and is popular with gloomy people. It prefers dirty tactics, crime, and pranks. Basically, it is the perfect Susie Pokémon! We don't know a lot about Susie's past, but it's probably not all that happy. I imagine Susie met this Pokémon one day while she was moping around, kicking a can or something. It was probably attracted to her negative thoughts. I like to think Susie is excited for this guy to evolve into something huge, strong, and mean.

For Susie's Legendary and Mythical, I present Groudon and Jirachi!

Groudon: Groudon is a giant, lizard-like kaiju Pokémon that references Susie's dream if being "Suzilla". It is in opposition to Kris's Kyogre. It is one of three ancient Pokémon that would fit well into the Delta Rune Prophecy. Groudon has control over the land and can shake and split the earth, causing devastating earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. However, many of its Pokédex entries describe it as a savior, coming to help people in times of horrible flooding. It's also covered in spikes, which I have no doubt Susie would think was cool as hell.

Jirachi: Jirachi isn't here to match Susie's personality or reference any attacks or dialogue. Instead, Jirachi is a Pokémon I think Susie needs. It is a Pokémon that can grant wishes for only 7 days every 1,000 years. It isn't an aggressive Pokémon, but it is often sought after by evil people who want to manipulate or use it for nefarious purposes. I think Jirachi would be in good hands with Susie. Instead of using it to kill everyone or rule the world, she'd probably ask for unlimited ham sandwiches or for her friends to be together with her forever. Susie is a good person. Jirachi is the kind of pure, kind Pokémon that she needs in her life. I think she would use it for good rather than evil.

[dreamsy990]

Soooo like... Rudy is def gonna die before the end of deltarune right? I mean. Yeah sure it'll be. Traumatizing or whatever. But theres way too much, what's the phrase... narrative momentum to be gained for toby to NOT do it y'know? In fact I could go on a whole rant about how I'm pretty sure Rudy KNOWS hes gonna die and is prepping susie to be a replacing support beam in noelles life. (See also: "Kris and Dad are the only ones I can say no to") and the SNOWGRAVE INPLICATIONS. ANOTHER RANT ON ITS OWN!! Anyways your thoughts?

consider: rudy isnt gonna die and toby just made it look like he was to make it shocking when he didnt die by the end

but seriously, i think rudy dying is PROBABLY going to happen, but i kind of hope it doesnt. noelle's home life is garbage and i get it honestly. like, rudy blantly says that he's not there to protect noelle from carol (idk if thats her name but ive been calling noelles mom that soooo), implying that she can and WILL hurt noelle, and has almost definitely done that in the past (emotionally, probably not physically). noelle has a TEXTBOOK broken home and i really hope the game ends with her out of that house or with a confirmation that her mom isn't going to hurt her anymore, because oh my god her situation is terrible. her sister is either dead or out of the picture, her father is in the hospital and probably going to die soon, and she has a most likely emotionally abusive mom.

oh yeah her mom is almost definitely emotionally abusive like. as someone whos been in a similar situation to her, just her being too scared to ask for a key to get into her own home and preferring to go OUT OF HER WAY to stay with someone else than ask for something is a textbook sign of it. rudy says that he has to protect her from carol. noelle is upset that it's just "her and mom" now, and while that's clearly meant to be referring to how rudy isnt at home, its also probably a hint that she doesnt like being alone with her mom. she's also just a people pleaser, implying she's afraid of the consequences of not being seen as "good". whether that's because of a fear of reputation her mom mightve given her, or an avoidance of conflict she's developed after living with her for a while i cant really say. ALSO YOUR POINT OF "kris and dad are the only ones i can say no to" NOTICE HOW SHE SAYS 'dad' and not 'my parents' BECAUSE YEAH HER MOTHER IS EXCLUDED.

no matter how you slice it noelle's home life is just terrible and rudy and dess seemed to be the only reason it was functional for as long as it was. and with dess out of the picture and rudy probably going to follow, i dont have very high hopes for their relationship. i really hope toby handles this well, and the story doesn't end with noelle and carol living alone together. i also dont hope it ends with rudy, dess, or both back in the house with her, because their household isnt sustainable. as someone who's lived in a house like this, it's going to break down one way or another. dess and rudy cant always be there to defuse situations, and they shouldnt HAVE to.

the ending i want is for carol and rudy to split up, and have rudy live with noelle without her. carol may be a good wife and a good mayor but she is not a good mother, and i don't want noelle to be stuck in a house like that.

i may be misjudging carol because we haven't seen her in the game yet, but i just. dont think she's going to be any good. this game definitely seems like its going for giving all their characters bad home lives. like,

-kris's brother is away, their mom seems a bit overbearing and like she's not quite sure what kris needs, and their dad, while caring, isn't the best at. being a parent.

-susie so far has been implied to have some sort of shitty home life but we're not quite sure of the type. we know she's always hungry, but whether thats because of negligence and potentially fear to get food on her own or financial problems is unknown.

-ralsei's been alone his whole life, so his family is just. out of the picture. he's completely isolated and if his parents were around for at least a little, i dont think they were very good.

-berdly felt like he needed to be smart to be recognized, implying that his family might just not care that much about him or really pay attention to him.

it's a theme of this game for characters to have weird or bad home lives and i dont think noelle would be an exception. so yeah, her mom is probably emotionally abusive. with all the evidence in game and just. generally how all the mcs have bad home lives i think its the most likely situation.

back to actually talking about rudy though, yeah he's probably going to die. i really hope he doesnt, because while realistically things dont always work out, having rudy there and maybe moving out with her would definitely make it better. it just feels uncomfortable for her to be stuck in a household like that.

noelle is kind of lonely too. like, her sister is gone, kris and her grew apart, and berdly is really fucking flirty, and probably not that close with her really, since she doesn't include him in the group of people she can say no to.

noelle's list of people she can say no to is just kris and rudy. that's it. her estranged childhood best friend and her dad. not berdly, seemingly her only current friend and the one she's probably the closest with out of the whole class, or susie, her crush (although that might just be because it was before they really started to understand each other more as people and really be friends). her list of people who "know how weird she is" is just kris. not even her dad is included. the only person who might be missing on both of those lists is dess, and she's just out of the picture and thats probably why shes not included.

so as to the idea of rudy trying to set up susie as an emotional support for noelle, yeah i think he'd do that. he definitely has seen that noelle's running low on people she relies on and wants her to have someone else in her life. he really encourages her to get to know susie and just be honest with her. it's cute and wholesome and just. a good dad moment. he's a great father, or at least one who's trying his best. a top tier dad.

i do think thematically that rudy is going to die. its set up that way from the very start, and i think its sort of being hinted at. like, noelle remarks that the dark world is better because 'everything can be healed with a little spell', implying that rudy's in too bad of a state to recover very easily, and "your choices dont matter" could also be saying something like "no matter what you do, he's going to die". idk thats just my take.

but i really dont want this game to end with noelle and carol alone. i've lived in families like that and it's horrible, and it just feels uncomfortable and bad that noelle's stuck in a situation like that. i want carol to have an arc where she starts being a better parent and actually trying, but more importantly i want noelle not to forgive her. abusive parents can change as people but they cant change what they did. noelle's mom has hurt her and she shouldn't just be forgiven immediately. she needs to make an effort, and noelle doesn't even have to forgive her after that. she deserves to have a home life where she's not so afraid to ask for a key to her own house that she goes to stay with a friend instead. get noelle out of that house, or have carol change.

i realize that i talked way more about noelle and carol in a post about rudy, but honestly i relate a lot to noelle's situation and i dont want her to be stuck in a life like that. its bad and i want toby to handle it well. if the game ends where i think it will, with noelle still living at home alone with carol, maybe with dess there, i'll just be sad. like girl, get out of that HOME!!!!!!! it's toxic as SHIT

also i know that some people are going to say "oh her mom isnt trying to hurt her, maybe she just did [x] and thats why noelle is how she is." to which i say, not all abusers have malicious intent. maybe shes just doing it because thas how she was raised and she turned out fine, or maybe she's just kind of negligent and doesnt pay enough attention to noelle to realize how she's being hurt, or maybe its something else entirely. but no matter what her intentions are, its still abuse, and whether she likes it or not, she's hurt the only daughter she has left. the truth is we don't know all the details of what's going on, and we probably won't know for a long time, or maybe ever. but no matter what, this relationship isn't healthy, and it doesn't matter what everyone's trying to do, all that matters is what they did do. and what carol did was emotionally abuse her daughter.

anyways thanks for coming to my ted talk. also the deltarune ending i HOPE happens is rudy gets out of the hospital, gets a divorce and marries asgore, then goes and moves out with noelle. thats only half a joke.