#i’m looking at u duffers

[peterth3parker]

all i know is that if steve dies and they spin it through a bullshit stancy lens, i will go rabid

[thestobingirlie]

re: that compromise ask (diff anon but heyyy right there with u) i was literally JUST thinking abt smth similar, about how esp in future/reunion fics, it’s always steve crawling on his knees for forgiveness for how he used to be, and eddie like. heaving a big sigh and “going back on his principles” or whatever to forgive steve. and steve like having to prove he’s better now or whatever which like. fine sure yeah steve was a high school bully. he threw slurs around and he definitely objectified women (although come on it’s high school social strata everyone was objectifying everyone, ain’t none of those babies had enough brain cells yet to see other people as people, that’s just being fucking 16) and he was a bitch, not arguing there.

but like 1) he was fully a child, he was literally a teenager, mike is an asshole too and no one is arguing he can’t possibly grow up or be redeemed, or that he needs to repent to earn love? like it’s one thing in canon era fics where they’re all still growing up, but i haaaaate in future fics when steve is a whole grown ass adult man still expected to grovel for the sins of being 17,

and 2) canonically eddie is the judgmental one??? i mean steve literally apologized and made amends on screen but if that’s not enough look at just purely going off the way the kids interact with them! they’re completely comfortable with steve. yeah he rolls his eyes and huffs and complains about their “nerd shit” but he still drives them to dnd nights! he still does that lame ass handshake with dustin! he still listens to all the stuff they ramble about, and you know he does it every time even when we don’t see it on screen, because they’re totally comfortable doing it! no doubt, no question steve will listen and support them, even when he doesn’t understand. dustin comes to scoops knowing without a doubt that steve will drop everything to listen to him talk about camp, and be excited about it! steve doesn’t give a shit about science camp, but dustin does, and that’s enough for him! yeah dustin is excited to talk about suzie, because girls are common ground with steve, but steve doesn’t know he met suzie when he takes his break, he just wants to hear about how dustin’s nerd stuff was going! he doesn’t have to understand or relate, he just wants them to do the stuff that makes them happy, and they know that. they trust him to listen even if he doesn’t get it

but the way mike and dustin were so nervous to ask eddie to postpone hellfire, even after months of knowing him, shows that they don’t trust him to let them have interests outside of his understanding. and they shouldn’t! he’s proven that he veered so hard into “nonconformity” he just reinforced the same social boundaries he claims to hate. everything with eddie is “us v them,” and like! i get it! i think it’s a complicated dichotomy and makes for an interesting character! i’m an eddie stan first and a person second ok listen i love the man. but if anyone needs to beg on their knees for forgiveness for being a dick in high school, it’s the guy who ruined BOTH of lucas’ favorite activities in one fell swoop by projecting his own insecurities and fake social rivalry onto a literal child. (i’m still so mad he managed to force lucas to miss the campaign finale he’d worked so hard for AND made sure that none of his friends or family were there to watch him play basketball all at once i’m never over it. i’m frothing at the mouth. apologize to lucas or meet my blade)

but there’s this trend where people are like “oh man eddie’s such a good person for looking past king steve and loving steve anyway! he’s rehabbing the jock! he’s fixing him!” fuck you. fix your damn self. the duffers’ childish ass hatred of “non nerds” is sooooo pervasive in this fandom it’s so gross.

oh my god, this is just beautiful. i literally couldn’t put it any better.

i wish we had gotten to see eddie repent for what he did to lucas, because honestly, i still hold it against him.

what’s especially funny to me about it is that steve’s sins (in s4) were over two years ago, eddie’s were last week lmao. like, one of them needs to go around apologising and it’s not steve.

but yeah! the kids have an ease around steve that they don’t around eddie. classic example: all the kids go to steve in s3, not even pretending to be polite or actually ask, and just pound on the bell until he comes to let them through the back of scoops to watch a movie. they don’t worry about his reaction. steve could literally get fired doing this, but they know he’s going to do it, and feel so comfortable that he won’t have a bad reaction, that there isn’t any hesitation.

when asking eddie to postpone a game, mike and dustin are shaking in their little boots. they’re flinching and looking away, and trying not to actually ask. those aren’t kids in the presence of someone comforting!! this isn’t a guy they would think deserves steve begging on his knees. if eddie was being a prick about steve’s past for no reason other than to hold some moral superiority over him, the kids would get pissed off.

if anyone is getting rehabilitated in their relationship, it’s eddie, not steve!! because being a jock isn’t inherently bad, and being a nerd isn’t inherently good, no matter what the duffers may be trying to tell you.

[harringtons-cupid]

what about something about eddie introducing you to the gang for the first time? like you weren’t involved with the vecna stuff because he wanted to protect you so after it’s done he invites you to hang out with everyone

idk if that’s confusing or not but 🫣

and idk if u wanna make it smutty u can i’m not opposed 🤭

I loved writing this Angel <3, I hope you liked it!!... It was snowing as I wrote this... Also the diner in this is based off the one from Twin Peaks... I think the Duffer Brothers loved Twin Peaks too :)

Warnings 18:

Blowjob, deep throating, choking, clit spanking, slight emotional dom behaviour, cum swallowing, cunnilingus, squirting, overstimulation, nipple play, fingering. Clit play. Tongue kissing.

| Requests are OPEN | /|

''Eddie, i'm feeling quite nervous'' your voice shook as you stood in the mirror, his eyes met yours. Those beautiful thick brown eyes.

His lips were pressed into your neck, his teeth lightly piercing the skin as he sucked down.

''You'll be fine baby, i'll be right here next you holding your hand'' he mumbled as he nibbled down on your skin again, making you moan softly.

His body was pushed up against your back, as you moved your cheeks around on his crotch. You felt his bulge, digging into your back, he gasped into your ear as you pressed harder into him.

''Fuck baby, don't get me started. We'll never get out here'' he moaned, watching you in the mirror as you dropped to your knees with a smirk.

Undoing his jean button, practically ripping his jeans and boxers off to expose his semi hard cock. You smiled, as you took the tip on your tongue and sucked it. Making eye contact with him as his eyes shifted between you in the mirror and you on the floor, he mumbled 'fuck' as you slowly began to take his length deeper and deeper into his mouth.

Sloppily sucking on his cock, humming on it purposely sending vibrations across his body. He shuddered lurching forward to grasp onto your hair and pull it.

Eddie usually took a while to cum but today he was enjoying watching you in the mirror too much, his hand tugging your hair in motion as your hands stroked his stomach hair. Groaning loudly into his room, his cock twitched as his tip hit the back of your throat.

Just as you felt him cum down your throat, a loud knocking sensation ricocheted around the caravan. Startling you both, his cock still in your mouth dripping the last bits of cum down your throat.

It was the gang.

Their voices echoed through the walls, Eddie chuckled and helped you up on your feet. Clutching your face and kissing you hard, sliding his tongue to your mouth. His limp cock pressed against your thigh as he kissed you, smirking against your lips as his name was being shouted from outside.

''Come on baby, lets go outside'' he kissed you once more, before doing his trousers up and taking your hand in his.

Looking at Eddie as he greeted the gang, they were stood outside in the snow. All eyes turned to you, you squeaked a hello and a small wave before hiding against Eddie's arm.

You were never shy but seeing them all standing in front of you terrified you.

''Right, we can do the pleasantries once we've sat down. It's fucking freezing'' his voice was calm and clear as he led everyone towards the van.

You calmed down as you sat alone in the front with Eddie, everyone else chatted excitedly in the back as he drove you to the diner.

He didn't let go of your hand throughout the meal, you were quiet as you sat next to Eddie. He kind of enjoyed the idea of being in charge of you, ordering your food for you, speaking for you.

You sat and listened to the gang discuss the horrific events that place under Vecna, Eddie squeezed your hand tight as Nancy turned to face you.

''I bet you're glad you didn't have to be in the upside down but it's nice to meet you. Eddie has spoke alot about you'' her voice was kind and soft, smiling at you.

Your eye lit up, turning to look at Eddie with a smile. He rolled his eyes but winked at you, not realising how soft Eddie was for you.

As the rest of the gang spoke up, talking to you about the things they saw. You grew more relaxed, laughing at their jokes and joining in with teasing Eddie. You felt slightly sad when it was time to depart, Eddie dropped everyone off at their houses before returning to the caravan with you.

As you calmly got out the van, happy that you managed to make it through a successful meeting with the gang. You were startled by Eddie running up behind you, giggling you sped up and rushed into the caravan until you fell onto the bed. Eddie grasped your legs, spreading them apart until it hurt.

Pulling down your underwear to expose your dripping cunt, his tongue drove right in between your folds. Your hands tugged his hair, as he made circular motions on your clit. Your hips bucking with sensation as his lips sucked on your clit, your eyes rolling back as the bed hit the wall from your movements.

''Oh fuck, Eddie'' you whined, tugging on his hair hard making his moans vibrate across your body.

You wiggled, bucking your hips against his face. Needing the friction, gasping when Eddie lifted up his head and spanked your clit hard. Mumbling 'stay still' before sliding his fingers down between your folds, his rings cold against your hot pulsating cunt.

He slowly inserted one finger inside you, warming you up to the feel of him. You whined underneath him, gasping ''more more'' your eyes looking at him desperately.

Smirking, he inserted another finger, curling them upside you. They thrusted soft and slow inside you, waiting for you to react. Right on time, you whimpered and begged for more. He leant down and lightly kissed your clit before beginning to speed up, watching you body rise and fall with moans.

Your hands had let Eddie's hair go and were around his neck, squeezing him as he hit your sweet spot over and over. Your body began shaking as he continued curling his fingers inside you, speeding up as the palm of his hand spanked your clit harder and harder.

''Ed--oh fuck'' you practically screamed, your hands weakily dropped from around his neck as your body shook.

He smirked his fingers still inside you as you squirted hard, coating his fingers, arms and bed with your cum. He didn't stop until your legs were weak and shaking softly, forcing you to cum again.

Removing his fingers, his tongue licked your cum from between your folds. Flicking your sensitive clit making you whimper before moving to clasp your face between his hands, roughly pushing his tongue between your lips.

''You did good meeting my friends babe, so I thought I'd treat my baby'' he smiled against your lips, kissing you once more as you lay there in your own sweat and cum.

He flicked your nipples between your fingers, watching you twitch from overstimulation.

[booksandpaperss]

Look guys, when I say that I’d be pissed if Mike did turn out straight I don’t mean it in a “I’d hate Mike forever bc I’m only gonna defend him if he’s queer otherwise he’s completely irredeemable and he sucks as a person” kind of way.

I mean it in a “I’m squinting my eyes, scratching my head, turning and shaking the screen, trying to figure out any possible explanation for Mike’s behavior being written the way it is other than him being queer and I’m coming up blank” kind of way.

And THATS way I’d be pissed if the duffers tried to play him off as straight. Thankfully they won’t bc they’re the ones who wrote him as queer in the first place 💀🖐🏻 but y’all get the point.

these thoughts are inspired by a post by @aemiron-main on Mike’s queer coding in his writing. Got me thinkin abt this. Bestie u are a genius <3

[kjisnotokie]

Alright guys this is what I have so far and it doesn’t really give any spoilers so I thought I might post it to see how I’m doing.

Word count: 308

Warnings: none so far

You and Finn are currently in your trailer, rehearsing lines for stranger things season 5 episode 1. You had been invited to the show to audition along with Jamie Campbell and Joseph Quinn back in 2019. You had been acting since you were only 8 years old, the Duffer brothers loved the emotion you brought to the set and how your character seemed to become your entire reality while filming. you yourself could not even describe the feelings and memories that your own character brought to your mind. you played Lisa Brooks, a 17 year old high school student at Hawkins High School, it was a very intriguing role that had caught your eye because let's just say she reminded you of yourself.

Lisa Brooks was a very shy and socially awkward individual at times, but always seemed to know how to make things so much more relaxed at just the right moments it seemed. This was much like yourself, seeing as you were sitting in this trailer with Finn Wolfhard, stumbling over your words. The scene you were practicing at the moment was a very ‘flirtatious’ scene between Lisa and Mike. your character is basically supposed to be a ‘second love interest’, no, not even love interest; more so a girl who tries to drive a wedge between Mike and Eleven this season.

That being said you had your hand on Finn’s thigh, slowly inching your way up. You are confused because the script says for ‘mike’ to move your hand away, however Finn is not, in fact FInn is just staring at your hand on him. Nervously you move into Finn’s ear and whisper “ hey Finn, u-uhm your s-supposed to move my hand”. He looks up at your face for the first time in what seems like hours, he looks red in the face, almost… embarrassed.

[thewingedwolf]

wait i’m gonna be so annoying and have a final thoughts here

the aesthetic & main romance has just really fallen off. they are incapable of sticking the landing in the third act & while they still have some good looks, i think there’s a certain level of playing it too safe (see Kate’s wardrobe!!!!!) and also just, bizarre makeup choices that were a bit distracting.

they also just don’t know how to keep a character waiting for their romance while building that character up over several arcs. kind of a bad trait to have for a tv show?? 😭😭 like, i love them with all my heart, but everyone has said that eloise, benedict, & colin have felt so confused at points as characters, like the writers didn’t know where to go with them. they’re just waiting for their romance instead of like, growing.

Colin was the male lead what do we even know about him beyond his inability to interact with a woman without projecting onto her.

once again the milfs outsold, agatha and violet are the best thing about this series and i don’t care how much i like violet’s lil thing with agatha’s brother, i want those two gossipy old milfs to kiss sloppy style.

it’s too goddamn short, i think this wasn’t a problem in s1 or qc bc it’s the First season so there’s not as many characters to follow but they keep introducing all these other characters that take space away from a) The Main Couple and b) The Bridgertons As A Family, and those are the draws of the series!! it’s too much for only 8 episodes, what happened to 12-18 episodes for high budget or cable shows, if they had these people on like Normal tv contracts they wouldn’t have such a hard time scheduling and have these long ass waits between seasons Either, im tired of this and i blame the duffer brothers and i want those two nerds hunted for sport.

also hyacinth and gregory are getting SO OLD OMG HURRY UP 😭😭😭

i think they did a better job this season with folding the siblings in together but it feels disjointed from s2. anthony & kate specifically feel very oddly thrown in there and idgi. i loved seeing the bridgertons using calling times as an excuse for Group Hangs, and i loved the way John pointed this out to Francesca. i liked that the ending with benedict where he’s realizing he’s the oldest still left at home with two like, toddler siblings and feeling unhappy with it, but bc they struggle with incorporating all the siblings together, we really lose that thread from last season between him & anthony that could have given benedict a way to explore his sexuality in a slutty way while also giving anthony something to do & not drop the art school thing. however, this is all detailed and would take a lot of time and they only have eight episodes. why. do 13-18 or im gonna start sending death threats to ceos. for legal reasons that’s a joke haha.

i do think in the few kathony scenes we got, they nailed the dynamic that she is the world’s most put upon eldest daughterson and he needs to be institutionalized. pls put jonathan bailey and simone ashley in another thing together so i can see them together again. this can’t be the end. be the next tom hanks and meg ryan please. he george clooney and julia roberts. i’m on my knees here.

am i allowed to say i’m glad we got a long devirginizing scene like in s1 & qc but also we did not see Nearly enough of those two fucking. more than kathony but imo still not on the level of the other two. also you could write an essay here about the sex politics of this show. i will refrain and say Is This Not The Pervert’s Show?? Can we Please get better pandering????

i think no one can handle a big cast like shonda not even her hand picked teams. qc handled having a host of characters so much better. early grey’s is really great at this. htgawm is good at this. u can tell what season she was really In That Writer’s Room. shonda pls get back in the writer’s room i need something as emotionally devastating as “meredith i’m so sorry” “you must be the woman whose screwing my husband” i need sexy like the “teach me” scene but with the freedom of streaming to get freaky with it, this cast WANTS to deliver but netflix & these writers are NOT up to the challenge!!!

i love bi benedict. even if nothing else comes of this i didn’t think they’d genuinely have benedict get intimate with and acknowledge being attracted to a man. genuinely really jazzed about that. but they Have said they want to explore his ~fluidity more and there’s so many scenarios that could be, i have no idea what the hell they mean by that askksjd. crossdressing sophie, genderbent to solomon, a trans sophie/solomon of some persuasion, im excited to see where they go!

BI FRANCESCA. MICHAELA STIRLING. PEOPLE ARE HATING BUT YOU HAVE MY ATTENTION. esp bc you could do a michaela that has like, resigned herself to a life of never feeling love only to fall in love At Her Cousin’s Wedding so well with this. these three, michaela francesca john, are gonna break my HEART i’m READY for it!

i want the resolution to one of the gay couples to include brimsley & reynolds encouraging charlotte to cure society of homophobia somehow. if we can do this with racism we can do it with homophobia. why the hell not.

listen to me. listen closely. are you listening. if we don’t get lesbian eloise what are we even fucking doing here. enough fucking around. give me a real sign this is all going somewhere. i am no longer asking.

[biillyhargroves]

hi here to distract u: rewatching s2 the other day i noticed on the very first shot we see of tina’s party, right before they show the keg stand, on the left side of the screen is a van that has the same coloring/style of eddie’s and then a cloud of smoke comes out of the door alongside an obvious stoner. i’m positive the duffers didn’t do that on purpose but i don’t care i’m claiming it as canon that eddie was at that halloween party when steve and billy first met

Listen!! The Duffers for sure didn’t do this on purpose because their continuity game is frankly terrible. I don’t think that two dudes who can’t remember their main character’s birthday are the types to plant a breakout character two seasons early. But!!! It’s so fun to think of Eddie existing in the background in the early seasons, and while he’s marked as a school outcast he’s also a known dealer and likely would have crashed any local parties he could, especially at the rich kids’ houses, to make bank.

So, yes, I’ll totally buy that Eddie was there selling out of his van, probably chilling outside and letting people come to him. And Billy, anxious and exhausted from performing for all of these new people, from scaling the social hierarchy, absolutely stumbled outside for some air and caught Eddie’s eye. And Eddie absolutely offered him something to take the edge off, and Billy accepted, spent the latter half of the night hiding out in the back of the fan, smoking, shooting the shit. Eddie puts on some music and is surprised to see Billy murmuring the words. He quizzes Billy on his metal knowledge, gets a full history of all the weekends Billy spend sneaking out of the house to hit the local clubs, pries all the details of all the shows Billy got to see. Soon enough, Billy excuses himself, complaining that he has to pick up his kid sister, get her home before curfew. They part ways knowing that they’ll ignore each other at school on Monday, pretend that this never happened, but they’re both at the next party, and the one after that, and Billy always finds Eddie before the night wraps up, stays a while, smokes with him, drinks with him, dissects new albums with him, drunkenly tells him about the girls who eye him like candy and the boy he wishes would just fucking look at him. It doesn’t take Eddie long to realize that he’s talking about Steve Harrington, the very prick Billy has dethroned. And Eddie is shameless. Plays matchmaker. Maybe inserts himself a bit, for shits and giggles, just to see what might happen. Might as well shoot his shot with the pretty boy who wanders into his van and smokes all his weed and fights with him over the best Metallica album.

[elekinetic]

Quick! Tag your top favorite byler blogs (as many as you want) and tell my why you love them in one line to spread positivity on the dashboard and make someone's day!

FINALLY! THE TIME HAS COME!

this is in no particular order

first up. my wheelies. my ride or dies. call it traumabonding or whatever u want but these mfs know secrets of mine they better take to the grave

@hawkinsp0st, my first real friend on here. currently on hiatus but truly a kindred spirit. single-handedly changed the way i looked at the show with their hellfire color post. u simply get me and i miss ur brain!!

@ratt-duffer deserves so much more credit than you all give them. he just gets this show so well and has such well written analyses, but more than that, is just a fun fuckin person to exist around.

@willsglock my sister in glock. what can i say. she has permanently altered the way i think about brba and bcs. refreshingly honest in a way i wish more people were. occasionally breaks hearts w her writing.

@crazycoven no. 1 weezer stan in my heart ❤️ jk but fr hayden is such a cool person with some of the best themes and best takes on this site. very glad to know him

@tntozier deserves financial compensation for what theyve given to this tag. one of the brightest souls on here. everything he posts is a gift and u all should be so lucky 🤨 thank u for screaming abt st puzzle games and convincing me to download. i blame you for my crippling addiction.

ok onto some of my other favorite geniuses on here <3

@quinnick his energy??? immaculate. thank u for putting reddie content on my dash. u are so sweet and are the only valid ask hoarder. yes ofc i will send you more asks!! you deserve it!! even if you won’t stop making ur mom jokes.

@madcleradin just fucking gets it. she has never made a single post i did not wholeheartedly agree with. her understanding of the characters and the dynamics….phenomenal. also genuinely hilarious. very grateful to be mutuals w one sierra loveqbrl madcleradin

@mlchaelwheeler is a certified genius and is single-handedly responsible for getting me to restart succession. we don’t chat very often but when we do it is so much fun. she always puts such good posts i’ve never seen before on my dash and her analyses are genius. sarah’s blog is a gift to this site!!!

@chiquitablanquita changed my life with her poetry fic. i just. wow. wow. oh my god. yeah basically yeah. oh my god. i am in awe of you for the work u do outside of fandom and for the absolute insane talent u so gracefully share with us.

@eightieslesbian is The Gif Maker on here. her visions…holy shit. yes her gifs of my demos and the bitch meredith brooks gifset haunt my dreams bc she is the sweetest person on here and the fact that she DOWNLOADED MY MUSIC?? hello my heart is broken in two. but can we talk about HER original stuff?? HELLO?? she is so insanely talented and her vision is just….omg. OMG.

@elmaxed lumi and i don’t chat all that much but her brain is just so correct always and forever. her writing is wonderful and her energy is stellar. always happy to see her on my dash.

@wibble-wobbegong is such a fun blog to follow. he’s just such a cool dude and has such a nuanced understanding of mike. plus a great signature blog theme. dude has a BRAND, mad respect

@astrobei i cannot believe we are mutuals. i CANNOT BELIEVE we are mutuals. genuinely one of my favorite writers on ao3 and i still fangirl a little everytime we interact. like. the fics….holy shit. HOLY shit. she has such a firm understanding of the characters and has never written anything that doesn’t feel true to the show, regardless of AU or canon compliance. hanleia costume fic my beloved. good god they are such a talented writer.

@smoosnoom the scream i scrumpt when i got the follow notification. first fic writer i actually learned how to use the “subscribe” function on ao3 for. there are no words for the absolute batshit amount talent stored in this tumblr blog. ik y’all have read i’m tearing you asunder (cue “uh yeah, i’ve read the classics” tiktok audio) but every fic in their fix it series….jesus christ. run up that hill to go read rn.

@strangeswift is in a category of her own. abby u are a twin flame and i am so glad to know u. u simply understand me!! y’all she is such a fuckin phenomenal writer and is SO CEREBRAL in the way she approaches the show. her mike s4 pov snippets live rent free in my head. truly the only person who could get me to voluntarily read angst. NEVER misses with her takes and is just. so smart. SO SMART. the most supportive mfer on here fr. you guys aren’t ready for milevenvision or any of the other stuff you should be so lucky for abby to put out.

ok i could talk about my friends and moots for hours and i definitely DEFINITELY missed ppl but pls just know i follow blogs i love love love the content of and if we are mutuals i value u to the moon and back <333

[urdreamgirls-dreamgirl]

When it comes to the stancy you're right lmao, like there was action happening and they just were walking around the woods and he was telling her (Nancy) his personal HC like idc, I want to get to the action not this cheesy-ness (Steve thought he is rom-com when in reality he's in horror genre) and the facial expressions, it looked like neither of them believed the dialogue. 😭 then Nancy goes to hug Jonathan, they could've cut the stancy scene out it doesn't change the 2 days time skip anyway, just red herring pairing to keep people's hopes up (for the boring love triangle)

sorry my brain went all buzzzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzZzZzzZz when u said i was right 🤤🤤🤤🤤

anywayssssss yeah i agree, it was out of place and negated a whole bunch of character dev for steve, imho… i think a major facet of his character is his ability to read people in various situations & accept them for whatever they are after his breakup w nancy (talking to nancy in season 2 & telling her to go w jonathan, apologizing to dustin when he makes dumb comments, steve and robin in the bathroom (like yes it takes him a moment to understand what robin is saying lol but he’s drugged, let’s forgive him), he knows billy’s bad news pretty immediately, etc.) and one of the major problems in their relationship was that steve WASNT PAYING ATTENTION/was ignoring signs of trouble and so to tell nancy that he envisions HER in his future w 6 kids???????? makes literally no sense in terms of either of their characters and is very obviously and blatantly a set up by the duffers for nancy to have to make a choice in season 5

AND steve is generally the character that is MOST aware of the genre he’s in so ur point abt the rom-com-yness of it all is really interesting lol

that’s it. i’m not like anti stancy (tho i think it would be a disservice to both their characters; i genuinely hope that nancy goes to college single and happy at the end of the show) but i think the heavy reliance on heteronormativity and heterosexual romantic “intrigue” from hollywood as a plot device & a way to keep people interested is extremely off putting and also bad writing. there are SO MANY different types of love and relationships that are meaningful without being romantic and the push that romantic love is the end all and be all of human existence is lazy and boring, imho

but it’s generally not a surprise that the duffers can’t write for shit. imagine admitting that u have to kill characters because u don’t know how to fix the storyline. like ITS UR STORY???? i could’ve fixed it in five seconds w a very minor rewrite/location change. but whatever lol

[mlvnldr]

Making a stranger things TIME CAPSULE!!

logging back before stranger things season 5 drops (2025-ish?)

So i have predictions that i’m 99% sure will happen, and some that i’m like 50% sure.

The first ones:

-rovickie obviously

-(praying for) jancy

-Someone will have to enter Max’ mind to save her- she’s trapped in Vecna’s mind thing- if she does revive, she’ll stay blind

-el has curly short hair (not a theory but i’m PRAYING this is gonna happen)

-will is VERY connected to Vecna+UD

-he was in fact used as el’s substitute by vecna. This will play a bigger role since he’s been targeted since probably before ‘83.

-the russia mind flayer will play a role as well (possibly all around the world?)

-008 will go back into the game (possibly other lab kids)

-time manipulation will play a VERY big role-> someone might do some kind of time traveling (no idea how, i’ve seen a bunch of smart theories)

-El might be lost somewhere, something done By vecna-> which makes me think this is probably what’s happening to Max atm-> she’s lost in a warren wasteland/the void

-Jonathan/ Eleven die

-will dies (by sacrificing himself to save the others) it will be extremely, extremely tragic. It just makes so much sense but just thinking about it hurts so much. There will be a lot of broken hearts but the UD will be over.

So now for the stuff i’m not so sure of:

Most of these are based on parallels, details etc, they’d make a lot of sense, but i’m not sure if the duffer brothers will actually act on those.

-Will has powers- he can manipulate electricity or something in that direction (people say he has “true sight” but to me that’s due to being possessed, not something that actually belongs to will)

-byler has to happen- or mike has to realize his stuff, and mileven will break up. However looking from a GA pov it’s not realistic. LETS SEE!!->

-mileven break up. I think its more likely that mike realizes his feelings for will->realization hits him->wants to act on them->will dies; than realizes->they get together

-Eddie coming back (god i hope this doesn’t happen i’m just listing this up just in case, i don’t think it’s gonna happen tho)

And then questions I hope get answered:

-how Brenner survived

-more info on El’s background. Why did she get kidnapped in the first place? What’s happening with her mother right now?

-more info on the lab- why the hell did Brenner even create that, some background please?

I had a lot more on my mind but these are the ones I thought of in the moment. I’ll look if i find anything else :) add anything if u feel like doing so

[perexcri]

Stancy is Officially out as my fav poly Jancy ship,😌 esp after this new fic of yours, which made me wiggle around like a delighted little sea slug.

Honestly, Nancy deserves to smoke some weed and admire her bf with Argyle. When’s the last time she’s gotten a break like this tbh?? Ever??

Jonathan Byers, simp extraordinaire for his gf and bf(f). (This fantastic dynamic feels a little bit like how I feel Merlin/Arthur/Gwen would have been if bbc hadn’t been Cowards(tm).) also…\o/ shotgunning shotgunning shotgunning sho—

Also, the undercurrent of Ow in regards to Jonathan’s Extreme amount of trauma? you somehow managed to thread a bit of Pain into this lovely interaction. (“He’s sick of being domestic–he just wants to be a teenager!” & “I’m fine,” he lies, and it’s an easy one to roll off of his tongue. He’d been doing it all his life.” &!!!! V much!!!!! “Secondary parent, half-mother and half-father, always up in the morning to make breakfast for his little brother, and always relegated to haunting the back of classrooms and the edges of hallways–the creep and the weirdo.” Crying screaming on the floor eating my phone bye). (Also also Jon doubting that Will needs him anymore, nonoo oh dear no he does need u I promise. Crying yelling throwing up curling into a ball. He’s always gonna need his big bro and Jon doubting that is sending off death flags which are oh dear 😭)

Argyle is just. Such a good, kind guy, and good for Jon and Nancy. Like a soothing lotion/sun screen on the burn that is their horrific lives.

“Jonathan and Nancy both stare at Argyle’s mouth, watch it catch against the joint.” 🤭hohoho honestly making me ship Both of them equally w Argyle,

“My fair little Wheeler” orz on the floor bye

If there is not at least One (1) interaction between the three of them in s5 that is even a quarter as good as this one, honestly I’m throwing tomatoes at the Duffers’ houses.

Anyway, lovely wonderful fic!! Hope you are having a good week and thank you for improving mine🥰

VEEEEE i'm glad you liked the Jarncy fic hehehe. i know it's not my typical wheelhouse, but it was so fun to write, so it's nice to hear you enjoyed it!! :D tbh the biggest compliment i was hoping for from this fic was hearing at least one person say they ship it a little more than Stoncy after reading it, so you have fulfilled my wish 😌 (no hate to Stoncy ofc lol)

LITERALLY let Nancy Wheeler smoke weed. or just something - she's going through it just as much as anybody else, and i think she deserves a chance to relax 😩

and you're so right about Merlin and you should say it louder

yeah we can't have anything nice around here without a little pain right :) idk Jonathan is a very personal character for me because i grew up as the eldest in a single-mother household, so there's a lot about his position in life that i relate to too much, hence the angst bleeding over a little into this fic. maybe someday i'll post that other Jonathan one shot i wrote! it's got plenty more of some of the stuff discussed in this one 🙃

and yeah him and Will :') listen the most surprising thing about this fic for me was realizing that, in this scenario, Jonathan would actually be in a very similar position as Mike. furthermore, I think Jonathan struggles with being needed like Mike, too. i think Mike's is more wanting to be needed and getting sidelined while Jonathan's is more having been needed for so much of his life that he doesn't know what his life would look like without being needed. and that definitely showed here :') my poor dude i want to give him a hug

...but that's what Argyle's for, right? GAH i thought the same thing that you said!! i think there's something appealing about having Jonathan and Nancy, who are both really tightly-wound and damaged by The Horrors, buddying up with Argyle, who's pretty mellow and chill (as long as he doesn't like, you know, have to bury a guy in the desert lol). i thought his character would be a good contrast for both of them, and i'm glad that came across :D

Vee i am once again saying that i am so glad you liked this fic :] i knew it was gonna be a kinda niche thing and wasn't sure how it would go over, but tbh, just hearing that you liked it makes me smile :] also this one really challenged me just for its subject matter and working with different characters, so it ended up being personally rewarding? listen i know people really liked irresistible, but it didn't particularly challenge me in any way and subsequently i didn't end up liking it as much as some of my other fics,,,like it was fun and all, but i didn't feel really connected to it. this one, though, made me feel a lot better!! it was fun to try something new and challenge myself!!

i'm definitely gonna be writing more byler next tho lol. i promise i've got stuff i'm working on. i just gotta get my shrimp brain organized 🍤

this has gotten so long :') anyway Vee it is always lovely to hear from you, so honestly, thank you for improving my week :] i hope the rest of your week goes well!! 💜

(also i'm still staring at your aftry art btw 💐💐💐)

[clarkegriffins]

Sort of random rambling nonsense but you’re the person with the closest opinions to my own I think (you even have a Clarke url and she’s still my favorite ever!) so apologies if it comes off bitter and unhinged BUT. I love byler, prefer it even, as a ship because I love Will and the childhood best friends trope sucks me in every time, but the fandom is literally insane and I can’t stand it. I think it’s because I’m in my 20s and a lot of them are teens but some of the behavior is just inexcusable honestly? “El has to be independent” horrible takes everywhere, Mike HAS to be gay (which is just biphobia most of the time), Will will NEVER be happy unless he’s with Mike and never moves on, Mike only liked El because she had no hair and looked like a boy at first, etc. Don’t even get me started on the “proofs” that get so unhinged that I genuinely wonder if some of them are ok—today I saw one comparing a shot from the Suzie scenes to the last supper painting???? And even though I am neutral on mileven it’s clear that’s what they’re going with so all of this absolute byler endgame certainty everywhere also baffles me. The thing is, I find the ship adorable still, but I really wish the stans could get a collective reality check because they’re embarrassing and obnoxious and sometimes. I wonder how they could’ve watched vol2 and not realized they’re telling the unrequited love angle in canon and can just make transformative content to alleviate that in fanon. /end vent

OH ANON I LOVED THIS ASK SO MUCH, thank u for sharing how you’re feeling and i can just say: SAME, FUCKING SAME. first i’m gonna say something if u know me/my account, u should know that i was (i think i still am, i’m just on....hiatus) a hardcore byler shipper since 2016/season 1, when this ship used to be a crackship and a joke for many people, it was TOUGH back then, i’ve been loving them for years, bc just like u said: childhood friends to lovers is amazing, it’s one of my favorite tropes ever, i have many other ships like this... and just like u said i also love will, i LOVE will, with all my heart (i’m a willelsteve stan since 2016), and now about the fandom i’ll say, it was understandable having hope before vol 2, the whole mike not saying i love you to el was a bit weird to me and to the rest of the fandom, my account before and after vol 2 is two different accounts lmao, before vol 2 i was being hopeful, i made some gifsets with theories and all, i thought that the only way the story would make sense was if byler happened/mileven break up, but after vol 2 something changed, it was like if something finally clicked you know? every missing part, every doubt, every confusion i had disappeared and things became cristal clear to me, and i sit and thought about everything that happened in season 4 and the past seasons and i finally took my byler shipper glasses off and i saw how naive i was being, also a little dumb lmao, u don’t need to be smart af or understand everything about media to know that the direction byler is going is the unrequited one, byler actually never stood a chance, mike and will’s relationship was important to will for him to find out he is gay, it’s actually a little cliche i know but it makes sense, if it wasn’t mike it would have been lucas, or dustin, but since mike is will’s best friend it was him, and it makes sense will would fall in love with the first person to show him kindness and was friendly, we all know how caring mike can be with him, so it makes sense, i can talk about myself like i find out i was bisexual bc i fell in love with my best friend, and spoiler alert we didn’t work, but i will always be grateful for her because i was able to find out who i am (insert the i know what u are meme here lmao), which i think is the same for will, this is the story the duffers are telling, this is part of will’s storyline.... now let’s go to some topics:

the “el has to be independent” take: BULLSHIT, i think if u have been watching the show u should know that el, just like joyce and nancy are independent af, el was away from mike in s2 and she had adventures by HERSELF to find out who she is, to find out about her powers, her mom, etc....in season 3 she also had adventures by herself and max, and in season 4 we saw her again going back to the lab by herself to figure stuff out and get her powers back.......so as we can see, ELEVEN IS INDEPENDENT, but at the end of the day she always comes back to mike bc she’s IN LOVE with him and people need to accept that, it doesn’t make her weak or not independent, it’s part of who she is, she’s in love, female characters can be in love and independent, they don’t have to pick one, they can have BOTH. PERIOD.

the “mike has to be gay” ............sigh.......... tbh anon i’m tired of talking about this, i’ve already talked about how the byler fandom can be biphobic af sometimes which is one of the reasons why i’m.....distant from them now, so i’m not gonna speak about this again, just know that if u don’t think that mike ever had any romantic feelings for el ur literally embarrassing urself, he’s not confused or anything, mike was created in love with el.... let’s talk about mike btw, remember how i said that after vol 2 something clicked? so mike is part of this, mike has SO MUCH overlooked trauma and people don't even realize it, el’s “death” is season 1 marked him for good, and everything we are watching  now is the result of this trauma, season 2 is not the “best mike season” like people say, mike was depressed, going through pstd, he literally says to will that he thought he was going crazy, and after all that sadness he finds out el is alive again and WOW, it was like he finally could breath again, we can see in his eyes, the longing, the sadness, the relief..... and just like that he had to let her go again so she could save the world ONCE AGAIN, and he was so scared, he was crying and he made her promise to him that she would be back..... and then we have season 3, el can’t leave her house bc you know my baby girl is wanted in 65656564 countries lmao so #GIRLBOSS of her if u ask me, so mike has to go to her house to spend time with her since she cant leave her house that much or go to public places, and that makes him be distant from his friends for a little bit but can we blame him? like i know that he could manage his time better but lets not forget that hes also a kid KDJGSNJDKGNKJGNSG like he was what? 13? in season 3? do u really expect a 13 year old to know EVERYTHING? but people say “lucas can do that with max just fine” first max it’s not el, like i said el is wanted in 545645645 countries, it’s easy to manage ur time with ur friends/girlfriend when ur girlfriend can hang out with u all the time, like lucas can take max to watch movies, mike can’t, anyways you know what i mean, this is getting too long so i will link u to these posts where i talked about mike and mileven and how i think his storyline makes sense in s4 here and here, the show have been telling us about mike’s insecurity and fear about losing el for seasons now, but we weren’t paying attention....

and finally the “Will will NEVER be happy unless he’s with Mike and never moves on” BIG SIGH, i said it once and i’ll say it again: DON’T REDUCE WILL DOWN TO HIS FEELINGS FOR MIKE, JUST DON’T, it’s part of him? YES, but it’s not everything about him as a character, the whole “Will will only be happy if he’s with mike” is such bullshit bc idk if u noticed but will already lived without mike, bc he never had mike to begin with, you can't lose something you never had, if we could take away the trauma from the upside down off him we could see that will can be happy just by being next to his friends, to his family, tbh i feel like will’s storyline is about growing up, being able to love and accept himself and understand that he’s loved, he’s not a mistake or a freak, that’s will’s character, and i hope more than anything that my baby boy can learn how to love himself and finally be free, el kind of had the same stuff in season 4 too, when she finally stand up to her abuser and said she’s not the monster, ofc it’s still a working in progress bc she blames herself for max now but is still something, and i want will to have that too.

and FINALLY the “proofs” i’ll just say: LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i’m sorry jfkgnkdjnsdkjgndksjgndkgnskjgndkjgn i laugh so much everytime i read their theories, they are so unserious, they are queerbating themselves and they don't even realize that, they DO need a reality check asap.... but hey whatever makes them happy i just hope they're not assholes when none of this happens

ok i already talked too much, bottom line is: ship whatever u want, whatever u love, byler is such a sweet ship, they are cute af (the fandom is nasty tho), but we all know this is not the direction the show is going and as long as you know that....be free, u can ship non canon ships you know, shipping is not about canon or endgames, is about a dynamic u love no matter what. and we know that will has feelings for mike and like u said we can work with that, i know it’s sad when ur favorite pairing it’s not canon but what can i say? it happens, i have many non canon ships and i still adore them more than anything in the world.

(i'm sorry if there are any typos, i’m sleepy af)

[fake-80s-yaoi]

(warning for me shit talking st4. i would scroll away if i was u)

(also this is a long rant so look out)

so honestly i kind of felt like this season was weird and i didnt want to entertain that thought bc it’s more new content 4 the show i adore!! i would never want 2 think of my 80s-horror-themed obsession as falling into commercialism and bad writing!!! ppl would point out how robin’s personality changed from s3 to s4 and i would write it off as character development, then drown myself in a copious amount of self-indulgent fanfic until i was completely numb to fanservice, just like i knew would happen

so i’m at a point where not only am i a content-consuming drone like everyone else, i’m now a fancontent-consuming drone, and i can’t even tell when the characters are in-character bc i’ve been fed so much love-and-action-flavored gruel made w all my favorite parts of a character that are canonically few and far in between but i can now enjoy all at once!!

so now i just looove stranger things, or rather, my mental combination of the way things used to be in s1 and the non-canon dreamworld - the fact that the writing, emotions, character and world-building r kind of shit now and probably will continue 2 be in s5 doesn’t mean anything 2 me!!!

i watched zarkflappysheep’s only slightly pretentious review of s4 on yt and he made sum good points abt the sheer predictability that st has set up 4 itself and how the setting has unfortunately expanded from a mysterious, charming small town w a few key characters 2 a larger world that doesn’t feel as personal.

also as much as i hate to admit it as sum1 who loved eddie’s character - he was definitely 2 shallow and commercial. the eddie munson i created in my mind would hate that!!!

soo in conclusion, ig, i’m not gonna stop enjoying stranger things and its plethora of fancontent, but i will be more begrudgingly mindful and guilty abt it. and a msg 2 the duffers - do better, like u were b4!! or i’ll do it 4 u..

[mayahawkse]

there was homophobia in the treatment of byler and eddie and it threw the show off course in the final episodes.

steddie and ronance are admittedly unlikely ships so we knew those weren't really going to happen but everything in the show has been setting up for byler since s1. they've been the main love story since the beginning and mike and el were meant to be a foil to byler. it was made clear in s4 vol 1 that el and mike barely even like each other let alone love each other.

they introduced an eddie a character who was explicitly queer coded - outcast, the black bandana, the subtle comments to steve. it was very clear he was being coded as gay.

the vol 2 happens and just fucking ruins everything. they kill off the gay coded character that fans had fallen in love with. they have mike give that big speech and suddenly start pretending he and el care about each other when they never have before. they backtracked on everything they were building too.

letting byler happen in s5 could potentially save the show but at the same time so much damage was already done to mike and will's characters this season i dont trust the writers to course correct. brining eddie back would undo the bury your gays trope but it still wouldn't take away from making fans watch a gay coded character die brutally in the finale.

the biggest flaws which ruined s4 were killing eddie and not letting byler happen and it's all because of the duffer's apparent hatred for not only gay characters but their lgbtq fanbase.

so weird i had the exact same complaints i just didn’t look at it from a shipping angle. like i’ve said before, i’m not a shipper i just don’t have it in me to dedicate time to non canon pairings that feel unlikely to come to fruition. do i think robin/nancy would be cute? totally. can i see the chemistry between steve and eddie? yup. is it very obviously painfully clear that will is in love with mike? duh. i just can’t find it in myself to be invested on the level that shippers are, so props to y’all as long as u aren’t a dick about shit.

but yeah no i fully agree the end speech with mike was bad, and a total insult to will considering mike in s2 said going up to will on the playground was the best decision he ever made. feels more like character assassination than anything. and obviously i’m not happy about eddie’s death, like of course. thanks for laying out your pov for me cause i agree on some level, i just don’t agree that it was entirely homophobia. a lot of metalhead culture is derivative of gay culture in the 70s/80s, and joseph played eddie with a natural flirtiness, so no matter what, eddie was going to be gay coded. he served to be a foil to steve, so they wouldn’t have to kill steve and would still (potentially) get the emotional payoff of someone close to dustin dying. because fans latched onto steve and dustin’s relationship, they thought they could replicate it in one season with dustin + eddie, but eddie’s entire “redemption” was trumped up. i don’t think it’s homophobia it’s just..bad writing.

i’m not gonna speak on byler bc i know there’s someone floating around my blog that thinks i’m an anti shipper monster for some reason, but you feel what you feel and if you’re disappointed by their treatment in s4 vol 2 then that’s just what it is. you’re in your right to be disappointed.

[ginalinettiofficial]

anyways i’m rewatching all the teen & kid scenes in st2, and remembering how i felt when i watched it wayyyyy back when it first came out vs watching it now is WILD

like first of all: they’re all my babies, every single of one of them, i love them all endlessly

secondly, never noticed before how WILD billy was to stalk up to steve at that party no prompting no onscreen reasoning ever given???? one second he’s playing w toilet paper the next he’s fucking naruto running to the hot guy on the other side of the room just to silently glare at him?????? billy r u ok???????

some other things i didn’t notice/remember that feel important now:

- will’s visions are fucking henry creel !!! eyes rolled back in his head and shaking and everything. they really did some cool parallels in s4 to s2 will with vecna’s victims and i’d totally forgot about it by the s4 came around

- always forget that dustin liked max for a second there. poor dustin he can’t catch a break

- erica “just the facts” sinclair look how BABY she is!!!!! she’s so little!!!!!

- billy hargrove wore denim on denim to both his first AND his second day at his new school. legends only

- max: “let’s just try to make the best of a bad situation!” / billy: “what in the goddamn HELL and FUCK did you just say to me?”

- why are there SO many redheads at hawkins high this cannot be a coincidence i’ve never seen so many red headed teenage girls in my LIFE as the minor characters/extras on stranger things. there’s like at LEAST five of them what is UP with that do they have a club???? they have to have a club?????

- billy was there in the bg for that entire fight max and lucas had before she got in the car and he yelled at her to stay away from him which truly is context i 100% never noticed before! like billy didn’t just see her walk away from a random kid looking upset and then yell at her about it, he watched her very obviously fight with and yell at that kid and then walk away w tears in her eyes. doesn’t excuse the very clear implied racism that the duffers just had to shove in there, but it does give a new perspective on that whole car convo

- eddie’s van is at tina’s party i’m not fucking kidding ????????????

- where is the fandom love for that random toga dude at the party!!!!!! “pure fuel” i love you toga kid!!!!!!

- natalia dyer acting her ASS off as drunk nancy i love it

- joyce byers threatening to genuinely murder children for bullying her son, we stan

- max’s FACES god sadie sink is so funny her expressions this entire season are just GOLDEN

- why did dustin have so much baseball gear does dustin play baseball???? give me dustin baseball backstory lore i’m begging

- also fr dustin being the calm stable one in the house vs his nervous wreck of a mother esp when mews went “missing” !!!! like oh, no wonder this kid latched onto steve “i’ll parent anyone” harrington so quickly

- max is SUCH a bad liar and she and billy both know it and it’s hilarious she makes the EXACT same faces when she’s lying about knowing lucas, seeing him at the arcade, and the “talkative mormons” i love her

- i always forget how billy starts off his scene w neil by speaking loudly and with attitude and i think that’s important!!! it’s something we forget often in fic and fandom depictions of the hargrove family dynamic but like. billy is still able to sass like a teenager and raise his voice sometimes and get defensive without being /immediately/ hurt and tbh i think that makes the whole neil thing almost worse !!! it’s at least different than if we pretend that neil’s the type of abuser who is CONSTANTLY blowing up and making everyone walk on eggshells all day long. it seems like he’s more one of those where he HAS good and fair days and then sometimes he’ll just SNAP and TURN and that’s just its own sort of horrible because like…. it’s the false sense of safety it’s the never knowing when the mood is gonna shift it’s the constant testing for boundaries that are ALWAYS shifting, never consistent, never predictable !!!

- i’ll go to my grave believing that when dart approached dustin in the shed he wasn’t gonna try to hurt him at all. poor dart he was just tryna see his buddy!!!! he loved dustin!!!!!

- max telling lucas that billy used to be okay but now he’s just angry all the time and tearing up talking about it really hit home !!! i’ve had family members who i’ve seen be consumed by anger and just. hoh boy actually i think i need a full separate post to talk about this one because it got to me. that whole convo on the roof of the bus does NOT get enough attention

- also the brief dustin/steve/max scene right before that is comedic GOLD and i watched it four times in a row because i was dying

- billy was SO excited to go on his date or wherever the fuck he was going and i WISH there had been SOME context before that moment as to what he was planning to do because it seemed pretty damn important !!!

- jonathan and nancy and murray scenes just kill me that shit is so funny. how was the pull out jonathan

- also billy fully just put cologne on his dick. truly a teenage boy ladies and gents!!!

anyways half of these make me want to write their own post but that’s a dump of most of my big thoughts so far. haven’t rewatched ep 8 yet so ofc will also have feelings to share on that but yea. stranger things 2 what a TIME!!!!!

[munamania]

sometimes i wonder are y’all like having fun or do u just use fandom to fulfill some compulsive need to feel right. but mostly. are you having fun here