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welcometogrouchland · 3 months

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May I ask about your Jason Todd idea? <3

Hm, okay so. How to lay this out sensitively since I know it might be a tad controversial...

Prefacing by saying I'm not an expert on the minutias of Jason characterization. I like him when he appears, I think the battle for the cowl/Morrison era and some parts of modern era for him are Weird and Bad, but I'm not Jason scholar (for that I'd say maybe check out @/tumblingxelian and their great video essays), I'm just trying to think of what might be an interesting step forward for him.

First, the canon facts

Jason got lobotomized and has panic disorder on steroids. By the end of Gotham War (specifically when Jason was. Flying the batplane into the asteroid. God I can't believe that's the plot) he was finding it in himself to power through said panics

In Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing #12, the joker gives Jason a "low dose" of joker venom, which has an ambiguous effect on Jason, allowing him to power through the fear (which joker explicitly states is still very much present, just not physically debilitating, like when Jason couldn't run over in either Catwoman #57 or #58, the one with the kid in the building) even though he'd been able to do that sans venom over in Gotham War, like I previously stated.

The effect of said joker venom seems to be lingering for now, minus the creepy grin side effect it gave Jason over in that man who stopped laughing issue, as seen in the latest batman issue (number is escaping me rn, #147??). He still has the stutter which is a shorthand for fear, he's drawn with fearful expressions by Jorge Jimenez, but he says that he's "working through it" thanks to the chemicals

This is both super interesting and kind of maddening as it doesn't completely remove the consequences of what happened in Gotham War, but is trying to sweep them under the rug and get back to business as usual. I, however, propose making said consequences front and center like a fashionable urn on a mantle piece:

Since it's never stated how exactly the joker venom works, and I think the current answer is "it works how the story needs it to" I've decided that because it's a low dose, it eventually wears off. And when it wears off, Jason's back to square one in terms of mental state. Ergo, if Jason doesn't want to live the rest of his life as quaking shivering husk of his former self...he's going to need more.

(read more for the meat of things)

So, Jason self medicates for a condition given to him by the father he has endlessly complicated feelings towards with a cure invented by a man who represents everything he hates in the world who once tried to take everything from him.

Which, insert poetic cinema gif here, I'm quite proud of myself for that one.

Anyway, there's a lot of directions you could take this. Personally I think it'd be interesting to explore Jason trying to get back into the drug trade like he did in UTRH (FULL TRANSPARENCY I HAVEN'T READ THE FULL COMIC, I KNOW BROADSTROKES BUT IM NOT GONNA TRY AND MAKE PARALLELS) as he tries to use the resources (production plants and other drug runners who can hook him up with samples of joker toxin/similar stuff you can probably find around Gotham) to manufacture his own cure that means never having to go back to the joker again. Maybe he ambushes a joker toxin chemical production plant to get his own supply, and then Jason uses this as his foothold back into that world.

This isn't necessarily me saying we should regress Jason alll the way back to UTRH, that was before his anti-hero era and I'm not willing to fully shoot him back into the past. I just think that's not how you tell good stories in a medium like comics. But it'd inherently be a little different just bc he's doing it for different, slightly more self motivated (depending on your take on villain Jason) reasons and the people around him would have a different reaction to it.

Anyway, all sorts of problems can arise! Depending on how you wanna characterize Jason (wayward son who longs to be back in the fold or black sheep who doesn't play by daddy's rules, etc) he can either a) try and hide this criminal enterprise from his giant family full of nosy detectives (good idea there jay) OR do it out in the open, trying to justify himself but still putting himself on the opposite side of the family again (not the law bc that boy hasn't been on the 'right' side of it since he died)

There's also the fact that Jason now needs to take something 24/7 in order to live his life. He essentially can't be without it, he's dependent on it, in fact he'd get sick without it despite any adverse effects it may have on him (which are guaranteed, I mean. No clinical trials)

I imagine it'd be easy to become addicted to it in some way.

And uh. This is the part where it works slightly better as a fanfic pitch than an actual comic pitch. Because as much as I think it'd be such an interesting beat for Jason's character considering his fraught history with addiction and drugs (looks away from that one urban legends story where he suggests terrorising addicts to get to the suppliers and bruce lectures him. The easiest way to make Mr "we don't sell drugs to children" sympathetic and you beefed it)

I also fully recognise that this is a sensitive topic that DC doesn't have the best track record with (although addicts aren't a monolith and feel a number of ways about addictions portrayals in comics) and that there's probably some pitfalls inherent in the premise, namely bc of Jason's background as an impoverished kid and his grey morality, and how those play into stereotypes of addicts. Addiction is already such a misunderstood and stigmatized condition that I imagine playing with it with an antihero might be enough to turn some people off. Addiction is not a moral failing and I'd hate to write it as a moral failing of Jason akin to his willingness to kill, etc.

But with all that said, I think that stereotypes are primarily harmful because of their shallowness. They inhibit understanding of groups labeled "other" by presenting them in simplistic ways that don't portray richness or complexity. And I think a truly good red hood comic could give both sympathy and complexity to Jason, even as an addict. If anything, Jason is a popular character (mostly) and there could be something nice about seeing a main character go through what you're going through, gritty details and all. YMMV (can we bring that back btw?) and it depends on execution. There's a lot of ways it could go wrong, but seeing as it just lives as a hypothetical rn, I think there's also a lot of ways it could go. I mean, not right, it's a downer story beat for Jason but it's mostly meant to be interesting and a vehicle for more stories as Jason navigates it, ya know?

Anyway, I have a lot of spiels littered in my notes app and discord DMs that elaborate on all this (how this could work as act 1 in a broader Jason story where his little operation goes to shit and he has to hit the road (jack) and maybe do some character development for better or worse. I'm a sucker and wanna say better- not squeaky clean better but. Yknow, finding himself to an extent. I recognise I'm a sap and a fool tho. Or how a new outlaws team could factor into either of those eras (since I do like Jason with an outlaws team. It gives him an excuse to exercise his compelling relationships and dynamics with other characters without having to constantly tip-toe around the elephant in the room whenever he's with the batfamily all the time. He just needs a good lineup) but that's all for another time

... though without elaborating on the vision in my head it kind of just sounds like my pitch is "Jason gets addicted to his hyper-anxiety medication" BUT I SWEAR ITS MORE THAN THAT.

It's like. If Jason has struggled as a character (and this is very subjective on my part so feel free to disagree) because he has compelling relationships with all of the batfamily, but also has compelling grey morality that makes it hard to capitalize on those relationships, without the conflict always coming to "Jason stop killing!" "Nuh uh!" OR just being ignored, and the main way writers have addressed this is via reboots instead of arcs...

Then giving Jason and the bats:

real, legitimate and fresh reason for jay to be mad at Bruce (taking their relationship of love with very little understanding to it's most dramatic conclusion)

give the family a real reason to want to bring him back into the fold (feel bad about the lobotomy and it would be pretty immoral to let Jason waste away slowly and painfully because of something Bruce did)

capitalize on all the ways Jason is sympathetic (bc the addiction is a natural lead into his backstory, which is one of his most sympathetic elements)

And the ways in which he's very out of step with the bats post-resurrection (I'd be mad asf too if i came back to life just for my dad to a) not avenge me and b) LOBOTOMIZE ME meanwhile the cunt ass clown giving me my meds is just lurking out there).

Idk it's not a sophisticated pitch as of this moment but I think a real chef (writer) could cook something w/ this

#ramblings of a lunatic #do i maintag this #uhh #dc #that's enough i don't need to bother ppl with my brain dump #you made the mistake of asking /j #i hope it's not. too out of left field for what you were expecting? if you were expecting anything #this has just been rattling in my brain since i was venting about gotham war to a friend while sick a while ago #idk jasons a hot topic rn he's seemingly controversial atm but i think he's just some guy #he needs a little direction a little tlc like i said. but I've always found him interesting and i think this is at least an idea-#-for how to deal w/ jason post gotham war #tho who knows. with the new Summer Events on the horizon maybe jason will be rebooted again #and I'll go bald all at once like silver age lex luthor #not from chemicals in a lab accident but from stress at my ideas no longer having relevance #it happens more often than you'd think #the ideas thing. not me going bald. that's only sometimes #uhhh anyway hope this absolute behemoth text isn't too much. sorry i can't physically shut up #also ppl who know more about jason amd would like to say things (CONSTRUCTIVELY) on this post feel free!#(i say constructively because. I'm sensitive. mean comments make me cry)

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nulfaga · 2 years

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#pentiment #idk why but this always takes me out.#i always wait patiently for caspar to make the torch but...in my heart andreas gets huffy and blunders thru the cistern in the dark #for like 10 straight minutes before bothering to turn around (caspar has been waiting very politely torch in hand)#just in general i really like a bad-tempered open-wound pathetic rapscallion andreas. so funny.#he's losing his mind to grief. a bar fight broke out while he was mourning [redacted] and his first impulse was to start punching.#he got floored by a landsknecht and is still sporting a black eye.#he once jumped out from behind a cupboard during a forensic autopsy and headbutted a doctor in the face.#he cheats at lansquenet and still loses.#i didn't say his name but he popped into your head didn't he <3

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skeletons-in-ur-closet · 6 months

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i AM a violent dog i DO know why i bite

#ok to rb #vent in the tags its a lot u dont have to read #nah but ive been so angry lately #im constantly fighting w my mom and brother but...like im justified every single time #its just like...ive always been the scapegoat of my family (except to my dad) but now hes dead and my mom n brother have been targeting me+#nonstop. literally 24/7 #for example my mom has not bothered to check on me ONCE since it happened...yet shes constantly treating me like a therapist +#and she always comforts/checks in on my older brother AND she critcizes me for how im handling things or how 'long' everythings taking #all the while they dont lift a fucking FINGER to help me with anything and im doing everythings on my own #while going to school and working full time....to pay THEIR BILLS #idk it just feels like im so fucking alone and yet they just continue to rag on me when im literally doing my fucking best #im not allowed to greive bc im too busy doing their fucking work all while they criticize how i do their work...FOR THEM....#god forbid im not as talkative as usual bc im stressed (i wonder why) and im the worst person on the planet #literally i will b sitting in silence in my room and theyll find something to make fun of me for or get mad at

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doodlebloo · 2 years

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Do you guys ever think about how (as far as we know) c!Tubbo arguably made the right choice by deciding to never open up to c!Ranboo... Because c!Ranboo (when Enderwalking) retains all his memories and works alongside c!Dream anyway. So although c!Tubbo doesn't know it, his paranoia is actually keeping him safe, because the less info c!Ranboo knows the less he has the ability to tell c!Dream... Not that c!Ranboo necessarily would, but it sucks that like... c!Tubbo probably beats himself up for not wanting to share anything with his sweet and loyal husband, not even knowing that sharing the wrong stray detail about c!Tommy could have caused something disastrous. Like c!Tubbo was right to be a closed book and that shit hurts to think about!!!

#i need Ranboo to explain cRanboo so bad.#one of the only things i care about anymore. pls just tell me why a version of cRanboo with all his memories WHICH BTW #HIS MEMORIES WOULD INCLUDE THE DISC FINALE. Why that version of cRanboo would willingly help cDream.#Even IF cDream went ''oh i wasnt really gonna kill Tubbo it was staged also its good that New Lmanberg was exploded by me''#and even IF cRanboo wasnt told why the prison tnt needed to be set off & therefore didnt know hed be hurting cTommy #how could he work with someone who he knows has hurt cTubbo like that. If he genuinely cared.#and i think about that a LOT a lot bc like. We see all these glimpses of cRanboo just... not listening to what cTubbo is saying.#the warning about cWilbur in ho16 is a good example but also just about history and Lmanberg in general... cRanboo sort of gives off the #vibe that he thinks he knows better than cTubbo does. That he thinks he knows what cTubbo needs and what's best for him #but also that he like... idk i just have thought about it a lot and worryingly i think he could become similar to c!Technoblade eventually.#Not in the ''violence is the only universal language'' way but in the way of like ''as soon as someone doesnt agree w my ideals and feels #differently than I do they have lost my respect and protection until they Prove themself and Earn it back'' type deal. not NOW i dont think #cRanboo is like that NOW but... Everyone always says ''cRanboo grow a backbone'' but he DID... While enderwalking.#ew!Ranboo is him with a backbone and apparently the him with a backbone does not care if he hurts his loved ones.#like cRanboo is part of the problem of people brushing aside cTubbo's grief and pain like it doesnt matter. cRanboo helping cDream has the #same energy as cJack trying to kill cTommy. this sort of ''he'll get over it'' mentality about cTubbo that assumes that just because he HAS #in the past been able to ''bounce back'' from indescribable loss that means things dont bother him or he can do it easily #so like. i do believe cRanboo isnt unsalvageable. i think the parts of him WE see are very much just misguided and not intentionally #hurtful. but sometimes i think abt Ranboo saying he was gonna make it so no one could be an apologist for cRanboo and I think like #what Memory does ew!Ranboo regaun that suddenly makes it fine for him to hurt his loved ones? for ''Dream Is The Reason'' to completely #disappear for him? is cDream offering him something he cant refuse or god forbid does ew!Ranboo just AGREE with him?#that to me is like. Once i know that i can be at peace. thats like one of the only things I'll be genuinely upset if it isnt explained #bc when i tell you it has been haunting me for like a year.#ok sorry for the rant and sorry boobers if i messed up some lore details lol #doodle.txt

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girlwithfish · 5 months

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the only way id get jealous of his exes is if they had better music taste than me

#kidding but also no #LOLLL #omg he asked me this a while back he asked what qualities in other ppl the person im dating have been with wld i get jealous of #its hard cuz my ex didnt have any exes i had no one to b jealous of lol first gf vibes #but yeah i told guy im with that idk nd he joked abt the music taste thing lmfao so true tbh #i have wayyy better taste than his recent ex is the only comparison ill make #i dont rly feel jealous atm w guy im seeing idk were too new or im just not as bothered anymore #like i get nosy n curious so its why i was curious abt what his ex is like nd found her insta but yeah other than that #Idk #but he has been in five relationships i think or somethin idk if im 5th or am i 6th? lol

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saturno-sol · 1 month

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Yknow maybe it’s not a good thing to have kids with a ten year+ difference between them.

#vent #just. a lot of realizing stuff that has been gnawing at my brain for a while #for those who dont know all kf my siblings are like over 19 years older than i am #which at face value isn’t inherently the issue #but it starts digging in that out of all of my sisters #im the odd one out #because im the youngest #and it always felt like they were less my sisters and more extra parents #treating me more like one of their own children than their sister #and at first it didn’t bother me/i didn’t care enough to be bothered #but now its just #im 21. i wanna be apart of the in group #i wanna get to relate to my sisters because now im an adult and im on their level #but im still not #im still just this weird awkward little girl #and its frustrating #knowing that they dont take me seriously #that im not #idk sister enough because i was born much later than they were #and my dad being always irritated by the fact that he has to come pick me up from college #and how he never acts this way if we go visit the girls (same amount of travel time)#doesnt help the alienating feeling at all lmao #i think the straw that broke me was the fact that they all have a groupchat #my dad and my three sisters #but never was I included or even asked about it #idk. maybe im thinking too hard about this but its just like #i want to belong. what do i need to do to belong.#what is wrong with me that I can’t be seen as an equal as their sister too #its #hard

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kyluxtrashpit · 10 months

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So I’m having another… let’s call it an internet crisis. A thing that typically happens when I have Big Problems I can’t do fuck all about which means now it’s time to get Really Upset about problems that are comparatively small but do affect my daily routine (sorry again for no cut, I still can’t remember how to do it on mobile and I fucking hate hate hate the desktop post editor as much as someone can hate a piece of code)

It’s… getting harder to use tumblr. This isn’t about the sidebar, I don’t actually hate the sidebar cause we used to have a sidebar on the other side and I’ve missed it every since it left, but it’s about other things. A lot of things, but I won’t get into them all right now. For me, the new post editor is just. Really fucking difficult to use. If you’re just doing an unformatted, unplanned ramble (like this) or a little shitpost, it’s fine, especially if you’re on mobile (somehow the shitty mobile editor is now less shitty than the desktop editor, how tf did that happen), but if you’ve got multiple paragraphs and literally any formatting is needed? Well, you’re fucked, quite frankly, it is the most dense and convoluted post editor I’ve seen in like roughly 2 decades spent online. I’ve never seen anything more counterintuitive and difficult to use

And I’m sitting here with all these twitter posts I want to move. Some are little and would be easy. Others are a lot longer and more complicated and would shove me into that formatting hell I despise so much (and given how much feedback and unanswered asks to wip I’ve sent with no improvements, I’ve given up hope of it ever being made better). Like god I really, really want to save those posts but is it even worth it to do it here? But where else would I do it?

And the secondary layer too is… there’s no fucking posts here. No engagement on posts either most of the time. 90% of my posts come from my archive cause the kylux and Kylo (plus a few others I check less regularly) tags have very few daily posts and there’s hardly anything on my dash anymore. My original posts maybe get 10 notes on average, and these posts are ones that sometimes got near triple digit rts alone on twitter. Just seems there’s exceptionally few people here to enjoy them

And I’m still on twitter. It’s slowly dwindling but it’s still slightly more active than here. I’m on pillowfort and bsky too and they are truly dead (unless you’re a furry, good on the furries for populating every site in existence). There’s just. Nothing anymore. Maybe my fandoms are just dead but it feels like the meme about passing around the same $20 among friends cause capitalism is destroying us except with posts and likes

Idk. I feel like I don’t have an online home anymore. 90% of my socializing is online and 100% of my creativity is expressed through fandom and. I don’t know where to do that anymore. I have friends I chat with on discord and I love them but it’s… it’s not the same as a whole community, you know? And now that our homes are falling apart with every sign pointing towards imminent foreclosure like. What do I do. I know I’ve been through site losses before but. It feels different. Something new and shiny always came along before the end. I fear that’s not coming and we’ll all just be lost

Idk. I don’t have a conclusion. Twitter is doomed. I hate how the new owners are running on tumblr and I’m still posting here more out of a desperate desire to remember what community felt like than any real actual want to do so. The new sites have nothing going on. Idk. I feel lost. And maybe it’s the 15 other problems I have going on right now and hormones and shit but. I just don’t know what to do and I’m scared of what the future looks like for online communities and how alone I’ll be if I lost them (even though in reality I already have lost them aside from a small handful of people)

#am I just hormonal and stressed about things like old cat’s appointment tomorrow and work and the state of the world #with a dash of good old regular depression hanging out in there too #and that’s why duolingo fucking me over yesterday and stuff like this is bothering me #to a degree that is probably excessive #very possibly #but I also feel like this has been simmering for a while #and I just #idk man idk what to do I’m frustrated and I just want a place to shitpost about my little fictional blorbos #and have other people enjoy those posts and make their own posts and we can talk about them and everything is fun and good #and idek how to get it anymore like where are people doing that I can’t find them #idk I also need to sleep but ugh #brain land is a messy place right now let’s leave it at that #text #misc #shut up nerd #long post

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worstloki · 1 year

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Thor, rambling while Loki reads: --and yes, we are brothers, but I would kiss you if you asked!

Loki, suddenly much less interested in his book: What?

Thor: What?

Amora: *'sneakily' watching with her head peeking over the librarian's desk* HE SAID HE WOULD KISS YOU IF YOU ASKED.

#been finding the option of competitive fair play and sportsmanship supportiveness so much better as an option for everyone #like sure Amora is dying to bang Thor and Sif is trying to be a good friend while also vying/hoping for his interest #and sure Loki is somehow winning the contest with little idea he's taking part #but that doesn't mean they all have to fight!!!!#Amora being like 'well if i can't have him then im voting for Loki' while Sif and Loki joke about Thor's 'obvious' crush on one of them #Loki: *pointedly @ Sif* and to NO ONES surprise Thor has made off for the night with a stunning fair maiden with dark hair and blue eyes #Sif: it's OBVIOUS he's like this for *you*#Loki: nah ur just mad that im right about this. and the fact that he'd rather never confess than begrudge your warrior bond or whatever #Sif: he likes guys too -there's no way to explain that away with me! YOU'RE a shapeshifter making it doable to his...salacious imaginings :#Loki: what if he has a type. maybe he likes us both? that would explain the time he--#Amora: if i wanted i could make clones too yknow -_-#Sif Loki Amora with sometimes Lorelei showing up and lowkey thinking it's a fun time to cheer the others on in gaining Thor's attentions #Fandral too one day he's red faced and all 'shame on my family line' but he's taken a seat at their table reluctantly and gone #''his arms. right?''#and there are just nods of solidarity around the table #idk #something of a wholesome Thor fanclub which Loki is attending because Sif is CONVINCED his type isn't her but is Loki #and Amora who thinks it would be wicked hilarious for the bros to get it on #Fandral: wait I thought Loki was just sitting here to stop people bothering your table. and because he's a loner #Loki: Fandral FINALLY. Fandral look me in the eyes. tell them Thor isn't in love with me #Fandral: you?! I'm hoping he's into blond T-T #Amora: *fist over her heart* respect T-T

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rabiosass · 4 months

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i think i figured out what bothers me about live action netflix Yue

she kinda acts like a 21st century girl that was plopped into the middle of this fantasy story.

#likee do you have to live within the constraints of this fantasy feudal society or not!? it's cute you use your powers to make ice cream #but what are your opinions on the restrictions of your waterbending? what spiritual leading were you doing exactly?#has she fought with her father about it before? gIMME SOMETHING TO WORK WITH HERE #look. i also just think it would've been way spicier and dramatic if she was betrothed to hahn while getting hot and bothered over sokka #think of the forbidden love storyline!!! why do the writers hate me!! GIVE ME THE DRAMA. I WANTED DRAMA. scandalous affair with the swt boy #+ she met one day ago?? sign me tf up!! i would watched the hell out of that. plsss they let me down so bad with the yuekka romance.#they could've outsold but instead they gave us That. yuekkas everywhere in despair lmaoo.#me #natla #Yue #idk how else to describe it...like cartoon yue could've definitely been written better. she was a barely there but still tragic.#the things they added were nice but they didn't address it much? she is the future chief! cool! she can waterbend! nice!#she can visit the spirit world in her dreams! okay! but what else?? idk her personality was just Off hahaha

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todayisafridaynight · 1 year

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Oh yeah, being Deranged about Mine and RGGJo earlier today got me thinking about the Hakuho Clan/Sawashiro Family office…

So there are (from what I can tell) two ways into Mine's gym, one through the main office and one through a small side room. You only see a sliver of it in exactly one (1) shot, but there's a grand piano in said side room. A look at that part of the office model to confirm, although it seems to be missing like... all of the other furnishings. Also sorry it looks like a hurricane went through the place, it's just the horrors, they're unending again.

And he has that piano statuette in his display case, right? I can't really tell what it's supposed to be, if anything, but at one point, a friend suggested it looked like a trophy. Since Mine is Canonically Perfect At Everything He Does, I would be willing to buy that.

But if that's how we look at it… then the consequence… of keeping everything the same for Jo's office… is that… if it IS the same Hakuho Clan office and the Sawashiro Family have taken roost… whether Jo even knows how to play the piano or not… he just has a trophy Some Other Guy won on display…

OLYMPIC-LEVEL mental gymnastics required to get to this point but Do You See. Do You See How Funny It Would Be If True.

OK BUT ACTUALLY THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME ABOUT THE PIANO YOU HAVE NO IDEA months ago I was trying to do a room layout of Mine's apartment/office and for the life of me I couldn't figure out what the fuck that black mass behind Katase was (I think I initially just chalked it up to another piece of abstract art but a piano is MUCH spicier) since I was trying to discern exactly what room that was but. Regardless.

About the statuette in Mine's main office, both considering it's golden and there's that little plaque below it, it's a PRETTY safe bet to assume it is a trophy (can't imagine any other reason why you'd have a golden statuette of a piano while also owning a piano. Maybe just a piano fanatic ☠️).

Ergo concluding that the thing IS a trophy. Lmao. Lol even WHY DO YOU STILL HAVE THAT

#snap chats #that fuckin thang behind katase had been bothering me for months i promise #but more importantly. Free Shit Is Free Shit yk ☠️☠️☠️#he was willing to keep mine's other belongings in there why get rid of the mini piano. it pertty #casually flex a dead mans trophy like 'this isnt mine its actually the guy who used to own this office's trophy :)'#wacko behavior #thats a big ass trophy though jesus christ but its like no regular statuette just has a mini plaque under it #great mystery as to where he got it then... and when...#questions for another time 😩#of course could just be rgg not bothering to remove it but they cared enough to make it daytime and have the art kanda destroyed removed #conscious decisions were made here....#i can stash away Mine Plays Piano into my brain for safe keeping later tho #idk when ill use it but. maybe one day in the far future #tbh i always assumed he could play SOMETHING like at least a violin but piano is funnier. he just like me fr #i hope he overplayed ode to joy while learning piano

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