#indigo park theory

[littlemorsel56]

Indigo Park theory

Okay, here we go.

Salem the Skunk, (if you played the arcade game), we found out they're like a villain or like a troublemaker to Rambley and his friends. They said Salem is a cunning, brilliant mind, and uses countless inventions it says on one of its posts. When you play the arcade game, Salem mentions their smokescreen works to crash Mollie's plane. They've been working on some 'potions' they have been experimenting on squirrels.

When they used it on Mollie, it made her probably into a bloodthirsty monster. "Now with none o' that "friendship" garbage stopping her from tearing you to pieces!" And what did Mollie do when our MC met her, she tears the MC into pieces. On Rambley's Railroad, we meet his friends (And Lloyd. I'm putting on a bet he's like a cowardly lion. He acted too innocent during the game.) on the railroad tracks, but Rambley starts to glitch on Salem's track and the place is damaged into pieces and a bit of a pile of blood there too.

It shows enough proof that Rambley, Mollie, Lloyd, and all of the cast are AI-sentient. And that also includes Salem too. Every popular mascot must have a villain who wants to destroy the main character. Salem became too intelligent and aware of their surroundings. In their program and data base, their only goal is to destroy friendship. And since they can only do that behind the screen, they perhaps can make a virus.

The same virus that was created in the 'potion'. Causing the mascots, Mollie, and everything to go out of control and cause chaos. Rambley seems to be the only survivor from the virus, but when he's close to Salem's track, he can't mention them, causing him to malfunction. Salem must have done something for Rambley to be confused about why the park shut down and why all of his friends were acting strange.

Another thing I couldn't figure or it might be shown during future chapters. Rambley is the only character who doesn't have the mascot animatronic or a live mascot. We've seen Mollie and Lloyd, they're blood and flesh. Finley is probably like them too.

We know the park is definitely hiding something in there. And somehow creating all the characters into a living being. So this is probably set in the future. Mollie and Lloyd could have been friendly and fun for all children and adults for who knows how long, yet all of a sudden, something causes them to act different and vicious. All except Rambley, who also wants to figure out what happened to the park and his friends.

[lunozapp]

so i watched the gt thing

[telekinetic-electronica]

Indigo Park: Salem is Important

I've already done a post on why I think Lloyd is important. I go over how I think he's the first mascot and the OG face for the Indigo brand. Not to mention, drawing a parallel to Mickey and Oswald. You can read it here.

There is also this picture at the beginning of Rambley's Railroad can suggest that Lloyd is giving the deed to the park to Rambley. I.e. transferring ownership to him, as seen here.

We also see Lloyd as a statue that's very similar to the style of the Rambley and Isaac statue we see when entering the park. I haven't seen this mention with people, but I think the biggest case for the other important mascot is Salem.

(Lloyd's statue in his maze)

Anything regarding to Salem is a mystery. Salem's part in Rambley's Railroad is completely destroyed. There's splats of blood, Rambley glitches out, Salem's cutout is ripped in half, and hints that Rambley's Railroad used to be Lloyd's Limos, in the backrooms.

(Salem's section destroyed in Rambley's Railroad)

(Lloyd's Limos in the backrooms)

Any important lore drop for Indigo Park, Salem is somehow connected. In the video game portion, where it's revealed Salem was the one who was corrupting the squirrels, then goes ahead and corrupts Mollie.

This is hinting to something big, something that possibly happened to the mascots at the park. Rambley did say, in a way, the mascots are like their cartoony selves. Via when he tells Ed the truth and in the credits song. Something either corrupted them or it could be symbolic to how trauma changes you. Within the same game, if you drop near the first half off of it, we see Mollie's sprite in a cage.

I mention trauma is because I think it's obvious that Mollie and the other living mascots were physically and emotionally abused by the staff and the on-goers at the park. Mollie can repeat things that were said back to her.

"I wanna play with the birdie!" "Don't touch that thing, son." "It barely hurts at all..." "Get up, you stupid freak." "Get back in your cage, bird." "The customer is always right." Mollie and Lloyd are conscious beings who were tossed around and mistreated from the employees to the people visiting the park. They treated them like they were just props, things. The parent calls Mollie a THING. The employees called Mollie a "stupid freak" and for her to get back in her cage. As shown in the video game. They were treated like rag dolls and if they didn't do want the employees wanted, they would get beat or screamed at, or left to rot in cages. It just makes the line "It barely hurts at all!" more dark.

It barely hurts at all.

She's convincing herself that the abuse she is going through is fine or that she's used to it. Or an employee saying the abuse she is going through isn't hurting her. It barely hurts at all. I wouldn't be surprised if Indigo Park's underlying horror is mistreating people as just tensions of the park to sell a fantasy towards parent for a quick buck, instead of, y'know, treating them like people.

Not to mention, Salem uses potions. Magic. A possible hint to how the mascots were brought to life. They aren't robots or anything, but they're conscious, living beings. Now, let's take a look at Salem's intro card. It was censored before chapter 1 was released, but I believe it is important.

Note of some important things here. They are a major trouble maker, super quick, and cunning. Interesting. Personally, in a speculation of mine is that Salem was the first one to act out and think what the employees and on-goers at the park treating them and the other mascots were wrong. Anytime something of lore is dropped or something of importance, Salem is involved. Salem is important.

Either or not they're an ally or enemy to Rambley and Ed, we'll see. Heck, Salem doesn't have any merch minus a keychain. So, whenever Salem is on the screen pay attention. Isn't it odd that Rambley NEVER mentions Salem? Like, the dude mentions Lloyd and he hates his guts. Interesting.

[riomsworld]

Okay , so I have seen that many people are talking about this picture:

Many people say that it is showing that the paper in Lloyd's hand is the reason that the two of them do not like each other anymore. And that is a fine theory don't get me wrong! But I have my own:

It is a known fact 'Indogo Park' is inspired by Disney and their parks, and I think so is this picture.

The Disneyland ride "Mr Toads Wild Ride " was replaced in 1998 by "The Many Adventures of Winnie Pooh". But as an Easter egg , Imaginers put in a little nod to the old ride that was replaced: a picture of Mr Toad giving Owl the deed of the ride

It is locatet at the entrance of Owls hous , and it can be easily missed.

Now let's look at both pictures,aren't they similar?

But there is also another clue that the picture of Rambley and Lloyd is a refrence to this!

When the train crashes, and we have to go backstage to fix it we find this :

A sign to a ride called "Lloyd's Limos." But the park does not seem to have a ride with such a name , or at least the current version we visit. The ride probably existed once in the park , but it got remodelled and replaced by the train ride with Rambly.

((The name of the Lloyd ride probably had even the same nature as the ride with Rambly, the only difference beeing that the visitor rode a limo insted of a train , but tgat is just my theory))

And if you think I am lying and that this picture does not exist: here

So TLDR: The picture is a refrence to Disneyland, and not only a lore clue

(I am sorry for the spelling mistakes,I typed this quickly while I was in a train )

[solarsunz]

I just realized that the picture of Rambley and Lloyd with what looks like some contract being handed off to Rambley from Lloyd in Rambleys Railroad looks very much like the picture on the ride in Disney "The many adventures of Winnie the Pooh" Of Owl being given the deed to the ride from Mr. Toad (since The many adventures of Winnie the Pooh replaced Mr. Toads wild ride.)

Could this possibly be a refrence to the picture? Or confirmation to the theory Lloyd was the original mascot?

[kittydragondraws]

so y'know how we find a wrecked animatronic version of molly

but then there's a spooky nightmare version of her

well i think that the indigo park people were experimenting with creating living organisms as mascots. plus...

(loosely transcripted by superhorrorbro)

this sounds like something you would say to a genetic freak of nature

bonus theory, at the end of the game we're going to have to fight organic Rambly

[rvtar34]

An Indigo Park theory

[readypanda]

Indigo Park Spoilers (and very long post) ahead

Since Indigo Park is the newest fandom I've been dipping into, I figured I might as well make my own analysis for the game. The question I'll be discussing today is,

WHAT EVEN ARE THESE THINGS?

(sry for bad picture quality lol)

The thing I find interesting about these mascots (Molly, Lloyd, and what we've seen of Finley) that kind of sets them apart from other monsters in the mascot horror genre is...they almost seem like they're just animals. (I'll go over evidence for this in this post)

Think about it. In other mascot horror games, we've gotten:

animatronics possessed by dead children

employees/kids surgically(?) turned into toys

people mutated by a giant ink machine

animals/people who have had their DNA spliced with a mutagenic chemical

A little girl somehow turned into a monster (I think??)(really sorry Amanda I don't know what you are)

etc.

(I'm not up to date on all these properties and I know there's many more, so forgive me if my lore understanding is less than adequate. you know how it is with indie horror)

The important note about all these is that for the most part, these mascots are intelligent, or at least have the capability of intelligence. Almost everything on this list was at one point human, in fact.

So why do I think Indigo Park is any different? What leads me to believe they aren't intelligent? (at least, the animal versions of the characters that we run from in the game. Whether they are separate from the versions of the characters Rambley interacts with is something I'll touch on later)

I think the most obvious piece of evidence in regards to Molly and Lloyd (again, not much info on Finley yet) is how Lloyd acts. He doesn't talk at all, he just stalks the main character and attacks like an animal might (with the exception of a couple times he stands on two legs or props himself up here and there).

As for Molly, I hear you saying, "But she talks! We hear her speak!" And yes, dear reader, you are right. Molly does speak. This would disprove my argument of the mascots being purely animalistic, if it weren't for this kill screen.

Now, do we ever actually hear Molly say something that isn't a repetition or couldn't reasonably be a repetition? Has she said anything to prove her intelligence at all? (genuine question here because I haven't examined every one of her voice lines lol. If I'm wrong about this then whoopsie!)

Despite the past 250 words of speculation, though, whether they act just like animals isn't actually that important. We'll see more of them in later chapters anyway (or Lloyd and Finley at least) so that will likely prove or disprove this point with time.

The more interesting question is, what are they? Like, physically?

When Molly dies, we clearly see blood around her decapitated head. At the very least that rules out animatronics or something mechanical. In addition, in the audio of the hidden tape you get when you show Rambley one of the collectables, you can hear two staff members complaining about being replaced by "new mascots" right after they "got a new raccoon costume." This could mean a few different things, but it seems to imply that the mascots we see in this chapter are meant to be replacements for actors in suits (for meet and greets, promotion, shows, etc) and/or replacements for limited, expensive, and cumbersome animatronics. If this is true, we can also probably rule out them being human. Unless Indigo Park also had a secret human experimentation lab, which I wouldn't put past them.

I think it's too early to definitively state what these mascots are, but based on the evidence of above, I have a theory.

My personal theory is that these mascots are just animals who have been changed or mutated in some way to allow the park to have more "realistic" representations of the characters (also probably to cut down on the costs of paying a human employee). That would explain why they act the way they do and why they are so violent. They literally are just wild animals who have been warped to represent these cartoon characters.

Another important caveat to this theory is that, if this is true, then the mascots who attack us in the game are most likely NOT Rambley's "friends" as he knows them. That would explain why he doesn't call attention to Molly chasing us or Molly's dead body (with the exception of one very small reaction when he talks about the mascots). You would expect him to seem a little more upset if he thought that was his friend, but maybe on some level he knows it's not really her, just a representation of her.

That brings up another question, which is a can of worms I won't fully open here: Do Molly, Lloyd, and Finley have sentient "AI" equivalents like Rambley? If not, does Rambley know his friends aren't real? I'll let you decide.

Anyway, that just about closes my thoughts on this silly raccoon game. Thanks for letting me ramble on about it, and thanks for making it to the end of the post!

Lemme know about your own theories in regards to what these things are, or if there's any key evidence I missed. Kinda threw this together lol. Most of it will likely get disproven by future chapters but hey, thus is the price of theorizing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[moshieee]

Okay actually one more thing before I got take a nap

A theory based of what happened in the end of the chase in chapter 1 for indigo Park...

so spoilers for Indio park?

. . .

I think the reason for the blood is because they're "mascots" and mascot costumes usually have people inside them, people that can bleed

also I watched uniquegeese's reaction to mat pats playthrough and he specifically mentioned jokingly that he thought it was funny people still considered molly a robot/animatronic after that scene.

Not to mention Rambly specifically said "mascots" in his little heart to heart afterwards

I don't think it's another "poppy situation" more likely there are people inside the mascot costumes (if that's what they are) that were melded together and went mad.

It will probably be proven wrong once we meet Finley in chapter 2 because he's underwater however, unless there was some sort of mutation that slowed the person to breathe in water or it was a sort of operational machine

[ariconditioner]

Indigo Park: Is Rambley’s Railroad inspired by Mickey and Minnie’s?

When I first went through RR I immediately thought “Is this Mickey and Minnie Runaway Railway inspired?” and honestly i’m pretty damn sure it is LMAO

Mickey and Minnie Runaway Railway is a very recent addition to Disneyland, set inside the Chinese Theater. Below, i’ve gathered a couple show scenes from both rides to draw some similarities

Both rides share the 2D quality and both of them work as a way to introduce a beloved main cartoon cast. Were some of these comparisons a stretch? Absolutely. But is it coincidence? I THINK NOT!

[littlemorsel56]

Remember the Mollie Macaw broken animatronic. I kept repeating it over and over again, and I could only get a few words of what she was saying. "Mollie Macaw! (Words I can't understand) Not friendly! He hurts Lloyd! He hurts Lloyd!" So, I have two-and-a-half theory of what she was trying to imply after saying that. 1. It could be after Salem throws a potion/virus on Mollie, she either sees a fake memory of Ramblely hurting Lloyd or a memory recall of Rambley going too far and ending up hurting Lloyd in progress.

2. Salem has access to all the broken animatronics and cameras. Mollie follows us around from the beginning and Salem decides to use that opportunity to make Mollie think we are trying to hurt Lloyd and we aren't friendly.

Back in the theater, why did our wristband suddenly activate the alarm? Salem probably has a connection to our watch. It follows our movement. Watching us through the camera that even Ramblely doesn't know Salem sees the same thing. After Lloyd retreats, Mollie sees us, thinking we have hurt Lloud on purpose.

If anyone could tell what the Mollie animatronic was saying, please don't be afraid and tell us all! Including other secret hidden messages!

[lunozapp]

this is about every theory that's based on the busted mollie animatronic allegedly saying 'he hurts lloyd'

video for reference

guys. GUYS.

i think i finally cracked it.

i think i finally figured it out.

for the longest time, the way people concluded that mollie distinctly says 'not rambley! he hurts lloyd (x2.5)' never sat right with me. I've had a gut feeling that people were mishearing or at least misinterpreting this line, and what bugged me even more was when people would use it as a way to back up their theories that rambley is a generic twist villain and intentionally malicious.

you wanna know WHY i have a gut feeling about this line being misused in theories??

The tone and inflection of her voice.

(and just going forward, here's the actual defenitions of what tone and inflection mean respectively)

The biggest contributer to my gut feeling here is that mollie does not sound greatly distressed or intense in the delivery of this line, which kind of contrasts many people's interpretations that this is solid, indisputable evidence of rambley being known to hurt lloyd and other mascots, whether that be physically or otherwise (COUGHCOUGHgametheoryCOUGHCOUGH)

At least in my eyes, mollie would sound much more troubled if she was expressing genuine concern about rambley's alleged actions.

Even if the interpretation of this line as 'rambley actively hurts lloyd' is true, mollie does not sound concerned here, almost as if it's a casual occurance to find rambley fighting/hurting lloyd and perhaps she even suggests here that they do so jokingly (which is kind of a stretch but stick with me here)

Another way that the 'rambley actively hurts lloyd' interpretation could be read with this off-handed tone is that mollie dislikes lloyd just as much as rambley does, and therefore isn't upsetted by her alleged 'friend' lloyd taking a beating. This could be supported by lloyd's official character description mentioning that, quote, 'he's friends with the main cast, but he's really starting to push it.'

The use of 'the main cast' in the quote implies that it isn't just rambley who is annoyed by lloyd (rhyme unintentional).

Furthermore, mollie's jarbled voice clip starts out with her standard railroad introduction of 'It's Mollie Macaw!' followed by some more scrambled vocal clippings (which, by the way, i haven't seen anyone even TRY to discipher but I'll come back to that). Mollie's tone in both of these lines sounds very similar to the 'not rambley, he hurts lloyd' line that follows them, emphasising to me that she wasn't experiencing much out of the ordinary when this line was recorded.

the other interpretation of the 'not rambley! He hurts Lloyd' line that i'm now leaning towards is that the mentioned 'He' who is hurting Lloyd isn't referring to rambley at all.

Here's specifically that quote so that you can listen to it with different contexts in mind.

Listen to it. REALLY listen to it. What is the context of that line? Especially if the afforementioned 'He' WAS actually in refferral to rambley?? The inflection of this line, at least to me, sounds EXTREMELY out of place for a warning or expression of concern.

Context here is another thing that's been rubbing me the wrong way about any theory that uses this line.

It's now that I wonder what other people concluded was the context of this line. I think most people interpreted it being in a conversation along the lines of:

[Person]: Who do you think would be suitable to be anywhere near Lloyd? Mollie: Not Rambley! He hurts Lloyd!

But even then, the inflection really doesn't sound natural to me.

My thinking is that the 'he' in this line sounds emphasized, as if mollie is making a distinction between rambley and another male character she can see who is physically close to her. As in, 'Not Rambley! This other male character hurt Lloyd!'

Additionallly, taking into account the jarbled glitchy-ness of the voice clip, it is somewhat possible that this line is being completely misheard. here's a few of my own interpretations:

'Not Rambley! He heard Lloyd!'

'Not Rambley! Here *unatural pause* Lloyd!'

'Not Rambley! Here's Lloyd.' (as if she were waiting for Lloyd??)

Plus, i'm not entirely sure where this voiceclip could've canonically originated from. Perhaps its a snippet from the rambley and pals cartoons? maybe its a line that was used during the ride's previous life as Lloyd's Limos.

One more thing: that completely unintelligable bit from the clip. Again, i've seen NO ONE even try to decipher it. Here it is so that you can listen to it:

It's pretty clear to me that the large majority of people have no clue what she's yapping about here. And you know what?? I honestly don't either. PLEASE let me knowif you have any interpretations of this section of the clip, i'd love to hear them

As a desperate measure to come up with ANY meaning to it myself, i've reversed it:

and here is where i had some kind of idea as to what the line could've been:

'Not now; fly home!'

am i saying this is indesputably what this line is?? NOPE!!! but id also love to hear interpretations for this variation of the line lol

just clarifying that im not SCRAPING to defend rambley here. In all honesty, as long as any twist villainy from him is handled in an original, refreshing, interesting way besides 'WHAOHHH HE WANTED TO KILL U ALL ALONG >:DDD', i dont mind what the devs do with him.

i just really have a strong instinct about this line and its significance being different from the widely accepted conclusion in the indigo theory community.

[telekinetic-electronica]

Indigo Park: Oswald and Mickey, Rambley and Lloyd

I've not that long ago gotten into Indigo Park and I think it has a lot of potential to be something good. This just hit me, and I read somewhere along the lines but. Here's my theory or speculation, if you will.

Lloyd was the first ever mascot character for the Indigo brand, and was the original face for the Indigo brand. For the first chapter, let's look back at the old timey advert for Indigo Park.

Isn't it weird that Rambley, the face of Indigo Park, isn't up at the entrance of the gate? Especially on opening day, but Lloyd is?

Not to mention, the ONLY character to have a vintage style plushie is of Lloyd not the rest of the gang. It's more custom for the character who started everything to get merch of him in the good ol' days.

Let's look at their color schemes.

Oswald, in modern depictions wears blue shorts.

And Mickey has red shorts.

Lloyd's main color scheme is blue.

While Rambley's main color is indeed, indigo, but guess what he is wearing? A red bandana.

Geese has stated he is a fan of Disney theme parks and their history. I wouldn't be surprised if he put Oswald and Mickey's dynamic into his game. Oswald, at first when he's coming around to Mickey, as bitter, resentful, angry, and jealous that he was replace and that Mickey has the spotlight. Rambley really acts like Oswald when Lloyd is even mentioned, but Lloyd doesn't seem to notice Rambley's distaste for him.

Look at how he reacts to the Retro Lloyd plush.

I think it's obvious Rambley is jealous of Lloyd. It's been mentioned that Lloyd is more popular than Rambley. I think if we add onto the fact that Lloyd is the most popular, with him being the first rubs salt into the wound for Rambley. Because now HE'S the face of the Indigo brand. Why do they still treat Lloyd like he's the face of everything, when he's here? Dude is so jealous of him downright insults him.

Kind of like a role reversal, in a way. Lloyd still gets special treatment, when Rambley is the literal face of the brand. On top of Lloyd being egocentric. Yeesh, that has to hurt. In the song, Rambley says HE'S the most devoted devotee of the park, but gets none special treatment besides... one of his plushies being painted gold.

Not to mention, Geese said in his VOD reacting to YouTubers play Indigo Park, Lloyd is going to be important to the plot and we're gonna see more of him. Do of that what you will.

But I guess we'll have to see. Chapter 2 is coming out 2025.

[dovetart]

💙💜INDIGO PARK💜💙

I love this indie mascot horror game so much. It has so much potential to be one of the best. The first chapter is free on Steam. Please, go play it. And please, support UniqueGeese and everyone else who worked on it. Indigo Peak deserves all the love and attention.

[jazzy-flowerr]

You think there's a mascot version of Rambley somewhere in the park that got "corrupted" like the other mascots?

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And then there'll be that one scene in a later Indigo Park chapter that's like;

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(P.S: Stylized Rambley wow 🤩)

[imagination-confusion]

Theory that Lloyd used to the original mascot evidenced by his throwback retro plush and his statue hidden in the theater as well as Lloyd handing over a deed to Rambley in this art.

Lloyd could've ended up just like Oswald the Rabbit where Lloyd could've been hidden and never brought back in favor of Rambley and new mascot characters but one) Oswald had his rights owned by Universal studio not Disney anymore so even if Oswald wanted to be brought back at the time he couldn't.

Lloyd gives me a lot vibes on what Oswald could've been like if he was kept around the same time as Mickey Mouse.

I still like the jaded older brother of Oswald and Mickey dynamic who wishes to stand by his creator again but that lifetime's gone and sour about never getting it back.

Rambley possibly hating that Lloyd used to be front and center of the park and is still wildly loved and adored by the guests despite he and his friends now being the current mascots

as well as Lloyd milking that attention doesn't make it even better for Rambley haha!

that's just my theory though! A Patchwork Theory!