WHY are BT shippers so vehemently against actually analyzing the symbolism and choices made for this show?
i mean i saw multiple people saying we were overthinking the vertigo poster. they were saying that it was weird to assume that Buck would fill the pining best friend role that Midge did in the original movie??? (haven’t seen the movie, i just read a few synopses)
i’m sorry, so you agree that he put Ryan Guzman in the main character and Devin Kelley as the love interest because they’ll fill those roles in the storyline, but we’re overthinking when we point out what role he put Oliver Stark in?
or when i bring up the possible symbolism of Tommy always calling him Evan, the only response i get from BT stans is “well he would tell him if he didn’t like it” or “i think it’s because he was introduced that way and that’s why” or even “i think he probably likes that Tommy calls him Evan” (all real responses i saw) and it’s like, yeah that’s cool, those are great headcanons for you, but that actually isn’t what i was talking about. nothing wrong with having a headcanon, but it doesn’t explain anything about the show or answer any of my questions.
i mean in s4 he corrected his PARENTS and told them his name was Buck, and in s6 it was used to emphasize the strangeness of his coma dream, how everyone was calling him Evan, the whole show him being called Evan has almost always been used to emphasize that someone doesn’t know him very well, how are y’all convinced that it’ll mean something different this time? i get that some people think it’s supposed to be growth, that he’s cool with being called his first name, but if that’s the goal it definitely isn’t reading that way to me.
like i wish i could see things through the same lens as these people so it could make sense to me, i just don’t get how you can willfully ignore SO many hints just so you can ship what you want.
no hate to the ship or the shippers obviously, i’m just baffled by the lengths they’ll go to in order to convince themselves that plot device man is endgame for Buck.
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//So my thoughts on Dottore are a bit of a mess, but I wanted to try to organize it in a post. It influences a lot of how my muse for him views (and thus treats) Scaramouche.
Of course, it may need to be entirely reworked depending on what shows up in canon later.
I think there's a part of Dottore, which he would deny existing even to himself, that does desire companionship. But he believes himself to be superior to others, and it's a view that gets reinforced whenever others oppose his methods. He doesn't really make an attempt to connect with people and doesn't put any work into relationships and so it's his own fault if he is isolated as a result. He would think that a companion should be on his level, but relationships don't really work like that. He can't even stand his own segments, which should be equal because they're him, because it doesn't address his core issue in connecting with other people, in that he treats them poorly and he doesn't make the effort.
And, well, he's simply not going to change, and he's going to die like that, and not one person will be sorry he's gone--well, aside from those who've developed a toxic attachment to him, and will eventually be happier and healthier for that loss.
Moving on... Some hcs of his younger days, with the overlap between him getting run out of the village and his admission into the Akademiya, to when he was rejected from that, too.
So, it's not really supposed to be sympathetic backstory or anything, because it's a past that Dottore himself has discarded anyway, and it's just sort of just the situation that allowed bad tendencies to continue festering. But I've considered that, the way he grew up, was with one parent who died early, and another who essentially just... forgot he existed? Wouldn't acknowledge his existence? And it left him to his own devices. He was an intelligent child, and he found things to occupy his own time with. Felt disconnected from peers, probably partly because he was older than most children in the village, but mostly because of the same views that he continues to hold, that he is superior to them in some way because of how intelligent he is.
Enjoyed taking things apart, specific interest in machinery and such. The way he kept to himself and was clearly a smart child and was rather self-sufficient leads to, after the second parent dies and he sort of comes under the care of "the entire village", there's this mistaken view that it's a matter of mental maturity. He gets generally left to his own devices, his intelligence and eventual admission into the Akademiya early gets praised. The way he is, is good in the views of others.
Interest in machinery is broadened into viewing human bodies similar to machines. Viewing illness as something he can solve, and it's not for the good of others, but for the challenge of it. Children are the easiest of test subjects, because they're willing to trust him, and he himself has a level of trust among adults that leads to the child's initial view of him being positive because of that. In some cases he succeeds, and it takes several traumatized children to do it, and ends with him being run out of this home village.
In Dottore's view, nothing about himself changed. It was them who suddenly flipped and thought that his intellect and ability was now bad when they thought it good. Thus, their rejection of him was something defective with them, not him.
He would run up against the (arbitrary, unnecessary in his view) limitations of the Akademiya. Eventually he would get rejected from there too, after eventually murdering a colleague.
It's after this that his personality gets especially unhinged, because he gives up on acting charming, personable, social for the sake of convincing others. It didn't help all that much anyway, because he's been rejected twice now. He'd eventually regain that ability to maintain composure, but that's much later on.
After he's become a Harbinger, during a mission, he happens upon a puppet. You know the story there.
By pure construction, the puppet is special. It's just like him, you see, and humans don't like things that are special. But the miners do accept the puppet, unlike the rejections that Dottore has received. Oh, he's jealous of it, and he wants to destroy it, but it's a feeling he buries deep inside. He genuinely believes that, once the miners get what they want from the puppet, they will use and then reject it.
So it's fine if he simply hastens the process. An accelerated end. And if someone is to use the puppet, then it should be him the Fatui.
He's actually genuinely surprised that, to the very end, Niwa considers the puppet to be human, one of them.
And then the way he views the puppet, eventually Scaramouche...
Attaining knowledge should have no limits, in his view, and Scaramouche is a special test subject. He's intensely interested in his construction, and what he can learn from it. Though he's constantly dehumanizing Scaramouche, and views himself superior to him, he thinks that a puppet should be better than a human.
He hates the result of every test that reveals some similarity to humans. Any similar weakness to one shouldn't exist, because what's the point? He should be superior, those weaknesses should've been designed out. Dottore has a lot of expectations that he's unconsciously projected onto Scaramouche. He believes them to be similar, while simultaneously that he himself is superior. He doesn't recognize any humanity in Scaramouche, and in the end, his attempt at turning him into a god isn't even the culmination of Dottore's research. It's one step along the way to an even greater breakthrough.
And then he's rejected by Sumeru a third time, and again the puppet is accepted in a way that Dottore is not, though he himself discards Scaramouche. He collects only the still-useful research materials of the Electro Gnosis, and then the Dendro one as well. Scaramouche is not among the useful materials to get back. But of course, it's his own fault for being rejected, but he views it as a problem of others and not his own.
I think that's everything I have in mind rn. Really Dottore is arrogant and thinks himself above it all, it's how he treats others. He really only acts friendly if he thinks he will get something valuable out of it, and continues looking down on people and rejecting any possibility of connection with others. It's true that he lacks empathy (he's never even bothered to try and develop it), but it's not because he lacks empathy that he's like this, but that he's never even bothered to try and instead stoked his own thoughts of superiority and isolated himself. It's something he's allowed to fester within himself, and refused to accept limitations that would've otherwise allowed him to coexist with others, and views them only as what he can gain from them, regardless of whether that hurts them.
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people take aziraphales 'i forgive you' way too literally actually
i mean its his like. go to angel phrase when he thinks crowleys just being too much of a demon right? "youre a demon going against god so i have to do the good angel thing and forgive you because no one else will"
even when he agrees with crowley he says it i mean. the bandstand scene is the other scene im thinking of, aziraphale says he agrees with the great plan but hes directly going against what everyone thinks is the plan, but he cant just say he doesnt agree with it so even when crowley is like FUCK THE PLAN!!! aziraphale has to be like uhh actually uhhh.
"may you be forgiven" shut up you know just as well as he does that the supposed plan sucks but youre too scared to get in trouble so you just pretend to like all these things just as you always have. but you cant even blame aziraphale. he doesnt want to fall, who does?
i mean when crowley kisses him he just got the offer of an angels lifetime. of anyones lifetime he thinks. and he can even bring crowley! but crowley doesnt want what zira thinks is the only good option, and hes even trying to get zira to say no to it too. ziras deep in that 'my abusive family is in their nice phase right now though!' moment so hes like, mental gymnastics right then first off.
whats he going to do? turn it down? surely not! i dont want to say he thinks crowley is tempting him cause i dont believe that. he just thinks crowley is... well in that moment he thinks crowley is being too much of a demon right? zira holds on so tightly to the angels and demons good and bad stuff even after time and time again knowing its stupid, so when crowley is going against what surely must be the offer of a lifetime then surely crowley is just being ridiculous and a demon, cause of course a demon would reject heaven. of course a demon would no longer want to do good.
"i forgive you" he says. what he means is "youre going against goodness and i have to be a good angel." what he means is "youve hurt me and i need to be a good angel." "youve broken my heart but i need to be a good angel." "youre going against god by rejecting this. by doing what youve done here. and i need to be a good angel." "youre a demon and im an angel and we cant be together like that no matter what you think (because surely heaven is correct), and above all else i need to be a good angel,"
"because what other choice do i have?"
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DID U LISTEN TO SUNOGONG 😭😭😭😭 SLAYED ATE KILLED DEVOURED ENDED EVERYONE'S CAREER LIKE I KNEW I COULD TRUST SVT THEY'RE SO KINGS 😭😭😭😭 the beats r so sick, jeonghan's low register added ten years to my life, AND WOOZI. woozi and wonwoo opening the song like they knew what they were doing I LOVE ALL OF THEM SM 😭😭😭😭😭 sry for this rant help bye
I DID OMFG I WAS WALKING DOWN A BUSY STREET WHEN I LISTENED TO THE ALBUM FOR THE FIRST TIME AND SONOGONG/SUPER JUST. ELEVATED THE EXPERIENCE SOSO MUCH,,, and ur so right fml was such a slay thank u svt for the consistent serves,,, like a military service exemption is due esp for woozi bc of how much cunt they regularly serve tbh,, i’m floored tbh
and stop the opening is like. one of my fav parts bc hello ??? but i just. loved the mv && choreo soso much,,, soso powerful n funky ugh literally obsessed,, and JEONGHAN HELLO ?? same w the adding 10 yrs to ur life but i think it killed me,, like pls add cause of death: jeonghan in sonogong on my tombstone pls and thank u
but caelin !!!! dw abt the rant :D i love hearing abt people’s excitement :))
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