#klaus in vietnam

[air--so--sweet]

So I just found out that the length of tour of duty for US soldiers in Vietnam was 12 months. Klaus was there 10 months, and Dave was there before him. Which means Dave died near the end of his tour...he was almost out.

Excuse while I dissolve into a puddle of grief

[mayahawkeswife]

rewatching tua s2.. dawg dave was into klaus before he started talking to him abt the war 😭😭 like he got so excited and asked him how his fucking latrine was doing and was into the conversation and shit what if i start crying

[topperscumslut]

do NOT listen to army dreamers by kate bush while thinking about dave from the umbrella academy

[raziereatscheese]

For the people who want some Dave/Klaus after the monstrosity that was season 4, here is a canon compliant fanfic Seth in fietnam

It is great and deserves more attention

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Summary:

It makes him sad, sometimes, that in order to find acceptance, Klaus has to travel back fifty years into one of the bloodiest wars of American history. Most of the time, he doesn't care. His family probably doesn't even notice he's missing anyway.

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Dave is looking at him, eyes soft and heavy lidded. “What did you say to that guy?” he asks, head resting on the wall, body turned towards Klaus.

“Ah,” Klaus laughs, dropping his hand to take a drink. “Just mouthed off. You know how I am.”

“That mouth will get you in trouble some day,” Dave says softly.

Klaus looks up, swallowing. “Some people like my mouth,” he says.

“I do.”

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One of the best fics I have read in the tua fandom

[theseance1968]

I honestly feel so bad for the cast too. No one wants to be a part of a train wreck show. And the fact that in season 1 the characters are so rich and you can tell the cast loved to play them. But as the characters were stripped away, I can only imagine their love for their characters was stripped as well. Honestly depressing

[sissytobitch10seconds]

I just saw a post complaining that s4 was a slap in the face to Gerard Way and how hard he fought to get his comics on the big screen. Girl, I hate to break it to yo but s4 is the most loyal to the feel of the comics out of all of them. If anything, he had more writing in this season than any other

[just--a-nb--writer]

the umbrella academy - season three

the fact that christopher exists without any proper explanation as to why he is a cube casually implies that a poor girl didn't only give birth unexpectedly, but also to a cube (?)

[distracted-moodboards]

Klave (Klaus/Dave) Vietnam moodboard

[splosh-crime]

Forrest Gump/Umbrella Academy

Forrest Gump and Bubba become friends with Klaus Hargreeves and Dave Katz during the Vietnam War.

- If the deaths of canon (Bubba & Dave) are kept in the story, Forrest & Klaus become closer for it, grieving together.

- Forrest reunites with Klaus in the future (maybe in the Veteran’s place) and doesn’t question him still being young even if he makes a statement about it.

- Forrest helps stop the apocalypse by bonding with and comforting Vanya! 🥰

- I kind of want to see Forrest beat up “Leonard” like he does to Jenny’s abusers

[diseasedrat2000]

i need whatever headphones Klaus was wearing during that umbrella academy s1e3 fight scene with hazel and chacha because that boy was oblivious like damn the autism could really fuckin use that??

[air--so--sweet]

Well this is looking less like Vietnam...

Though, according to some Vietnam veterans, apparently it did snow in Vietnam on Christmas Eve 1969 but Klaus tells Dave he dies in February 1968.

Honestly my brain went to Amish country for some reason but that doesn't explain the soldiers...

[sharkneto]

I enjoy your opinion of the Brellies, so I would like to ask how do you think Klaus views Vietnam? In the comics he enjoys it (even has a kid with a local that he cares for), and in the show it seems to represent his best and worst time of his life.

I think that same sentiment carries over and sums it up well. On one hand - He's not a Fuck Up there; he's just another traumatized young man doing the best he can in war. And he finds the love of his life.

On the other hand - it's the fucking Vietnam War. So.

Twas the best of times, twas the worst of times. I think with Dave dying it slides more to the Worst of Times, but the really golden good of Dave is something he'll never forget or let go of. I don't think he'd talk much about any of his time in 'Nam, for how bad it was, certainly, but also to keep that best bit that was Dave close and his.

[the-martyrfication-of-the-matron]

I think I’ve mentioned this before but when I get to rewriting TUA (which will be a while, I have a lot of projects going on) Stan will be Diego’s kid. Not Lila’s tho.

Diego is the only one who’s dopple’s mother wasn’t killed so he is running around, and he knocked a woman up, stan popped out, Lila stole him. And then we get to where we are in s3

[dramaticnerdwithanxiety11]

I HAVE MORE TO SAY ABOUT THE INACCURACIES ON PEOPLE WRITING KLAUS IN THE WAR!!!

him getting sober in the VIETNAM WAR is UNREALISTIC AS SHIT

the only reason he MIGHT get sober is for a potentially sober Dave, and even then he’d probably still drink and smoke, or for drug safety (when has he cared lmao)

Drug use was a serious problem in the vietnam war. It started with just weed, because it was super super fuckin easy to get and it took the edge off and all that, but the higher up decided that they needed to put a stop to it and started sending people away and taking away their weed when they found it on them. So they switched to harder drugs

LSD, shrooms, cocaine, heroin, etc etc- super fucking common. Vietnam was a horrible place and nobody left it mentally unscathed, some worse than just PTSD. They did drugs to cope, to help them escape from that hellscape and they still did their jobs as soldiers while doing it

Not to mention that most of them didnt even continue the drugs when they got home. They were all forced to do a sobriety test before going home, and if they were sober they could go home and most didn’t continue the drugs afterwars.

SO YEAH Klaus, seeing everybody else around him doing drugs, probably wouldn’t try to get sober especially not when thrown into a war. This is shown in canon too when he only starts getting sober after he gets back, if only to conjure Dave!

So if you make him get sober in vietnam youre wrong, unless he’s doing it for love but there’d be a LOT of relapses since he’d be absolutely surrounded by temptation. getting drugs was super easy there im sorry to say

[whatisonthemoon]

The Rev. Moon, the Unification Church, and the KCIA

The following is excerpted from "The Death Squads: Bringing in the Kingdom of God Through Terror, Torture and Death" (1996) by S.R. Shearer

In addition to the Americans, the Argentineans, the conservative Catholic Church, and various right-wing politicos, business leaders, and the military - with their attendant intelligence apparatus - there was a final component to the deadly mix which constituted the environment in which the Death Squads worked: specifically, the World Anti-Communist League (WACL) of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon. WACL became involved in these operations as a result of its Korean connections - connections which also led back to Phoenix..

WACL is a Moonie front organization with strong ties to the KCIA (a creation of the American CIA); its ultimate allegiance is to the Rev. Sun Myung Moon and the Unification Church.

Moon, of course, is no friend of democracy. He is a theocratic authoritarian who considers himself to be the Son of God and the new Messiah.[22] Moon believes that Jesus failed in His earthly mission to save man through His death on the cross; in addition, Moon claims that Jesus had sex with the women who followed Him.

As early as 1978 newspapers like the Washington Post began to pick up on the connections between Moon (WACL) and the Latin American Death Squads. For instance, one such article which appeared in the Post describing these connections carried the headline: "The Fascist Specter behind the World Anti-Red League."[23] In 1984 these connections were further explored in a series of columns by Jack Anderson.[24] Other publications carried additional articles detailing these connections and the Nazi components which comprised these elements.[25]

ORIGINS OF THE UNIFICATION CHURCH

In the light of all this, it might be fair to ask, what was it in the history of Moon and the Unification Church which would have led to such links between what ostensibly is supposed to be a religious organization and Nazi-oriented, right-wing Death Squads? The tides which produced these strange relationships originated in the very early 1950s in the murky right-wing political, religious and military currents which swept through Korea as a result of the Korean War; specifically in the wrath of Korean President Syngman Rhee and other right-wing elements in the Korean military who were furious at Truman and Eisenhower for not prosecuting the Korean War through to a successful conclusion - by which they meant the re-unification of the Korean Peninsula under President Rhee.

Right-wing elements in the United States were also enraged; many saw in the U.S. "surrender" the outlines of a sinister conspiracy. Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin went so far as to blame the U.S. "surrender in Korea" on the machinations of a White House clique besotted by "bourbon and benzedrine;" in a rage, he actually called the President a "son-of-a-bitch" from the floor of the Senate. Senator William Jenner of Indiana, echoed McCarthy's rage; he too saw the silhouette of an ominous conspiracy; he went on to declare that "... this country today is in the hands of a secret inner coterie which is directed by agents of the Soviet Union." Both groups - right-wing Americans on the one hand, and right-wing Koreans on the other - felt they had been stymied in Korea by a vast, underground intrigue which had seized control of the United States and which was aiming at the destruction of the Free World; they perceived themselves as engaged in an immense struggle against an implacable foe which not only controlled Communist China and the Soviet Union, but powerful, secret elements in the West as well (i.e., the "Illuminist Conspiracy"). This view of things was only strengthened when Rhee was toppled in April of 1960 with Eisenhower's help.

It was this witches' brew of virulent right-wing politics which gave birth to the aberrant theology and politics of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon and the Unification Church; Moon became as much a believer in the existence of the "world-wide communist (Illuminist) conspiracy" as had been Korean strongman Syngman Rhee and Senators Joseph McCarthy and William Jenner. Moon believed that the conspiracy could only be stopped by uniting the Western World under the banner of "Christianity" (by which he meant his own weird blend of New Age philosophy and aberrant religious teachings). Thus, Moon's movement was (is) as much a political movement as it is a religious movement; it is the result of a strange convergence of extreme right-wing politics (which stem not only out of sources in Korea, but also elements in the United States) and a bizarre mixture of fanatical, authoritarian religious beliefs.

There are, of course, many such movements throughout the world; but what has given Moon's organization such power is the relationship it enjoys with the government of South Korea - a relationship which endows Moon's religious empire with unlimited funds, business fronts, and access to sensitive intelligence matters - things which no other religious association in the world enjoys - outside of the Vatican; and it is precisely these things which have bought Moon entrance - if only through the back door - into America's Religious Right; the Religious Right in this country has seemingly found itself unable to resist the allure of Moon's money, the high-paying jobs he is able to offer through his various business fronts, and the excitement generated out of his intelligence (KCIA) contacts.

THE DEATH SQUADS AND THE REV. MOON

All this brings us back to Moon's involvement with Latin America's Death Squads; Moon's involvement originated as a result of his contacts with the KCIA, and the KCIA's involvement flowed out of Korea's connections with the Vietnam War. Korea was one of the very few U.S. allies which actively participated militarily in Vietnam alongside American forces. ROK (Republic of Korea) forces thus came into direct contact with Phoenix.

The KCIA was thrilled with Phoenix - and this favorable impression was passed on to WACL where the KCIA, as already indicated, exercised a great deal of influence; as a result, WACL soon became a purveyor of Phoenix-like operations throughout the world as an effective means of combating the spread of communism - so much so that in Latin America many of the Death Squad networks which were later established became synonymous with Moon and the Unification Church. Indeed, investigative reporter Russ Bellant writes that "... the ... Death Squad network{26} (in many of the various Latin American countries) is (in instance after instance) also the Latin American branch of Moon's World Anti-Communist League (WACL)."[27] For example, in Argentina, the Death Squads and WACL were so closely identified that in Buenos Aires the various Death Squad cadres constituted in fact the main Argentine branch of WACL.[28] These kinds of connections between the Death Squads and the Unification Church were repeated throughout Central and South America. So closely and effectively did Moon and the Death Squads cooperate in Latin America that they were actually responsible - along with Nazi fugitive Klaus Barbie - in helping to establish a Nazi-style state in Bolivia in 1982.[29] And what about the individuals who constitute the membership of these organizations? - they have been variously described as a mix of Hitler collaborators, anti-Semites, right-wing politicos, rich businessmen, etc. - all of whom hold to an unshakable belief in a world-wide conspiracy directed against capitalism and Christianity[30] - the same kind of ideological mix which - to a large degree - can be found in the CNP (the principle coordinating agency bringing together members of the Religious Right with members of the political right and the business right) today.

Full article: https://www.antipasministries.com/html/file0000105.htm

[cosmictapestry]

ALSO you said my most beloved perma-wip……………… and ALL i could think of was

OUR most beloved perma-wip………………

JSFGYDFJGFKEJFHLRGEHRU our TRUE soldiers remember i want to be well...... empathy is stored in the klaus..... maybe wanting to live can feel like wanting to love...... rainbow sand campground cage fight with god..... dave voice i'm trying really hard not to let on that the author doesn't care about me........... ILSE my love ILSE