#orpheus and narcissus go on a trip to the seaside

[gremling4mer]

what a sentence this is

[orphiclovers]

The blueprint actually. It's giving a single uninterrupted stroke of a famed artists brush

[p2ii]

just read both the udad!Orpheus centric fictions

some highlights I really enjoyed

[majorshatterandhare]

Y’all wanna talk about Medea Asylum, ‘cause that shit’s fucked up.

In a world with no true death, where the uber rich live forever and everyone else has their brain used as a computer for the rest of time, the problem of disabled people still exists. They obviously can’t have the same horrendous fate as everyone else, because they’ll ruin the computer, but no one receives a true death, and allowing that for them would result in others faking to get out of their civic duty and you can’t reward people for being Wrong. So instead they are forced to live forever, against their will, and tortured the whole time.

It’s an interesting near reversal of eugenics, but when death would be a privilege, that can’t be how such invalids are dealt with.

I think a story of a mech having spent decades there, during their time on the City, perhaps miraculously broken out by one other shortly before the events of Eskhatos.

[reegis]

Ok so I was curious whos your favorite like, uncommon/barely mentioned character? Also your art is so great I love seeing it

IM SO GLAD YOU ASKED, ITS

✨✨✨✨Narcissus✨✨✨✨

if he has 100 fans im one of them, if he has 1 fan its Me, if he has no fans im dead

everybody go read Orpheus and Narcissus Go on a Trip to the Seaside immediately

[wellmaybetheresworms]

I’ve been listening to Narcissus Under the Knife by Jessica Law. I’ve been feeling very Normal about Narcissus Under the Knife by Jessica Law. I’ve been writing an analysis-ish thing about Narcissus Under the Knife by Jessica Law. I’ve also finished it, and if anyone wants to read it, that’s what this is. So. TW: mentions of mental health issues, namely Orpheus’ depression and Narcissus’ extreme Narcissism. Also plastic surgery. Also this is basically just incoherent rambling.

You have been warned.

Narcissus Under the Knife is a song by Jessica Law. It’s based on a fiction by the Mechanisms called Orpheus and Narcissus Go on a Trip to the Seaside. It (Narcissus Under the Knife) is written in first person from Narcissus’ perspective. Instead of talking to someone, or telling a story of some kind, it’s Narcissus’ own thoughts and reflection about his relationships, with Orpheus, his friend, and Echo, his ex, as well as his own relationship with mental health and his appearance.

My mind was ringing with echoes

When I told you to let go

When I sent you from me

The first verse is about Echo. In Orpheus and Narcissus Go on a Trip to the Seaside, Narcissus tells Orpheus about Echo, his ex from seven years ago. He says that he only realised that he truly loved her after she’d left him, saying that he loved his reflection more than he loved her, and had thought about her ever since. Orpheus said something about him only loving her once she became unattainable, but Narcissus never addressed this with anything other than a glare.

Now sitting here at my mirror

With the light getting dimmer

I can see myself clearly

You see, it’s ironic because the lights are getting dimmer. But it’s also ironic because his mirror is broken. Narcissus said that Echo broke it when she left, and that he never got around to getting it fixed. But, in the fiction, Orpheus thinks he sees an older, more beaten down and aged version of Narcissus for a moment in the reflection. He chalks it up to the drugs he’s on and the lack of nutrition, but that’s likely similar to what Narcissus sees in the mirror: a combination of how he looks and a distorted version, what his mind shows him.

And I'll never reconcile

Those bright eyes and flashing smile

With the mind that whirs and winds

And finds fault in all I see

But I think I'll stay awhile

Sit and stare and sulk in style

When Narcissus looks in the mirror, he sees himself. Sometimes how he physically looks. Sometimes his mind’s own version. Physically, he’s very attractive, young, obviously upper class. However, all he can see is what’s wrong with him. Yes, that makes no sense with what I said earlier about how sometimes he’s seeing what he actually looks like, but that’s why he can’t fit that version of him that everyone else sees with how he sees himself. He looks in the mirror, and what he sees is different from what he is. A young man with years and years ahead of him, perfect. Nothing about that is meant to imply someone who stares in the mirror for hours looking for faults. And it doesn’t, since no one is that kind of perfect without any insecurities.

And I never said that everything would be the same

And I never promised I would be OK with change

And I never meant to hurt you

But if you feel no pain, then

That's enough for me

That's enough for me

Here, Narcissus is struggling with change. He knows it happens, and he isn’t denying that, but that doesn’t mean he’s alright with the changes in his life. This whole verse could be about Echo or Orpheus, and it’d fit just the same. Echo left. It’s unclear if he actually realises that he hurt her, but either way he didn’t mean to. (Doesn’t make it okay, but there’s a reason Narcissism is called Narcissism.) And if she wasn’t really hurt by him (his perspective. Obviously that hurt her feelings), then he has a chance of her coming back. It also fits Orpheus because of Eurydice’s death. Since she died, Orpheus got careless, depressed, suicidal. He changed, and Narcissus wasn’t ready for it. And at the end of Orpheus and Narcissus Go on a Trip to the Seaside, Narcissus is actually the one to suggest that Orpheus try and get Eurydice back from the Acheron. Because Orpheus ended up dying before he could do anything, Narcissus never found out if it worked or not. So there was equal chance of his suggestion failing, hurting Orpheus more, and of it succeeding, in which case Orpheus would feel much better.

Looking is all I am doing

I would face my own ruin

If these looks didn't stay

Narcissus’ entire livelihood relies on his physical appearance. His job is people being attracted to him. His job is how he gets the money to throw fancy parties. (And, as is implied in the fiction and later in the song, plastic surgery). His fancy parties get him exposure, and exposure helps him keep his job. HE DOES NOT HAVE BACKUP MONEY. If he loses his looks, he loses everything. Also, the “Looking is all I’m doing” bit is a reference to the original Narcissus myth, where he has a pond instead of a mirror. Touching his face in the water would cause ripples that would ruin his otherwise perfect reflection. In the song, it’s less of an actual thing that could happen, as just touching his face or reflection couldn’t actually do anything to ruin how he looks. It’s just his fear that if he disrupts his perfect reflection, it’ll shatter everything he’s done to maintain his appearance.

I can't decide if I miss you

There are more pressing issues

Like remaining this way

So I think this bit is more about Orpheus than Echo, but could, again, be about either. About Orpheus: his best friend is missing, likely dead, possibly having killed himself, and Narcissus can’t stop maintaining his appearance for long enough to think about him. About Echo: Narcissus has spent so long keeping himself looking the same for when he thinks Echo’ll be back that he hasn’t thought about whether or not he actually loves her/wants her back.

And I'll never sympathise

With that place behind my eyes

Cells that order me to lie

And buy time with money

But I'm kind of mesmerised

By the face they hide behind

Narcissus’ actual reflection is perfect. Just like his face. But this is a mix of the actual reflection and his mind looking for something wrong. The something wrong here is what he sees behind his eyes. Y’know the whole ‘the eyes are a window to the soul’ thing? Pretty sure that’s the reference. Narcissus looks at his soul, who he is as a person, who he really is, and he doesn’t like it. The cells are his actual cells. He’s ageing. There’s a bit more allusion to him getting plastic surgery here, because it costs money and plastic surgery can hide ageing. So he’s forced to alter his face artificially in order to look younger. A sort of lying. Then the last two lines are him admiring his face. For anyone who’s ever dyed their hair, it’s kinda like the bit of time right after it’s been dyed where you pull it in front of your face because it’s a new colour and that’s interesting. He doesn’t feel like it’s his face. It’s a marvel, it doesn���t change, it’s constantly new.

And I know I need someone who feels and thinks the same

And I know that person isn't real and can't be named

And I never meant to spurn you

But if you feel no blame, then

That's enough for me

That's enough for me

The needing someone who feels and thinks the same is because he knows it would be good for him to talk to someone who went through/is going through what he’s going through. But there isn’t anyone he can talk to. (In the fiction, Orpheus thought about how he could have helped Narcissus, but wasn’t in the right mental state to be able to.) The spurn bit: he ignored Echo in favour of his own reflection, and he sort of did the same to Orpheus. Not as much, but he did leave him waiting three hours. But if they don’t feel any blame, then that’s good enough.

I know they'll soon come and get me

You would never have let me

Reach the state I'm in now

Narcissus is going to end up in an asylum. He knows it. Orpheus knew it. He believes that either Echo or Orpheus could have helped him get better.

Counting the cracks in the pavement

One more day of enslavement

To the lines on my brow

He counts the cracks, he counts his wrinkles, he only steps on the black tiles in his house. Every day he sees something new wrong with him, namely wrinkles, and hyper focuses on it. All he can think about is his imperfections.

Just another little tweak

Rolls the clock back one more week

If I could I would rewind the time I was with you

All those years I can't reclaim

But my youth I shall retain

So this is the big plastic surgery thing. “Just another little tweak” and all. One little change, and he’s so much younger. And the “my youth I shall retain” bit. He’s using plastic surgery to look younger. Obviously. Kinda. Already implied that. Whoop. But there’s more Narcissusism here. The 3rd and 4th lines are basically him saying that if he could take back all the time he spent with Echo/Orpheus in favour of his youth, he would.

And I'll never have that natural glow or natural grace

And I'll always have to cast my spell in other ways

And these dotted lines are painful

But that's the price I pay, and

That's enough for me

That’s enough for me

That’s enough for me.

Last verse! He can’t have a natural glow or grace because his looks aren’t natural. So everything he does has to be accentuated by something artificial in order to keep up the facade of effortless beauty. He has to spend hours on makeup and hair. He has to pick out fashionable clothes. He has to walk right, he has to speak right, everything he does, he has to do because if he doesn’t, people will see right through him, right through what he wants, no, needs them to see. Anyways, next line! More plastic surgery shit! When someone gets plastic surgery, the surgeons draw dotted lines around the area they’re doing surgery. The dotted lines are guide lines. The price he’s paying is both the price for the surgery, and also the ever so slight price on his soul that comes from living longer than he should have. Which makes sense for something related to the Mechs. Themes of the consequences of extended life and life in general are common themes in their stuff. If someone who’s reading this somehow hasn’t listened to them, Then What Are You Doing, Go Listen Now. Anyways, continuing to look young and pretty is all Narcissus feels he needs. It’s reaffirmed by the fact that he only says  “That’s enough for me” three times, one of which as the last line of the song. Every other time that line has popped up, it’s been sung twice. Like he’s trying to convince himself. But here, it’s sung three times. I’m taking it as convincing himself, convincing himself, convinced. Especially since the last one’s sung differently than every other time he sings that line. And there’s nothing else he needs to say after that. The whole song has been building up to and backing away from a sort-of admission of his own obsession, and now that he’s finally said it, there’s nothing else to admit.

Also, I really like that the song’s slow with lonely-ish melancholy vibes. Really lends to the contemplative aspect of it.

Wow! You stuck around! Wasn’t expecting that for my nonsense!

[dropitdoeeyes]

3, 9, 19 and 21 :)

3. What’s your favorite story or smaller narrative?

I realize I may have misunderstood question the first time I answered it, so here we are again! Lucky Sevens, without a doubt. I’m never normal about Mx. Ashes O’reilly.

9. Do you have a favorite piece of official fiction?

Absolutely. Either “I Will Rule This Town” or “Orpheus and Narcissus Go on a Trip to the Seaside.”

19. Which Mechanism gives you the most gender envy?

You can’t make me choose. Can I have all of them? Please? Jokes aside, Raphaella, Marius, and Nastya have unbelievable ammounts of gender.

21. Favorite headcannon?

Don’t get me started on headcannons., Ouh. I’m so abnormal about transfem Jonny and Brian. Transmasc Ivy is so close to my heart as well. I don’t post about them enough.. <3

I also headcannon that Raphaella thinks she’s an amazing cook (“If I’m a good chemist, that certainly means I can cook!”) but then every time she offers to make dinner the crew ends up dying of some new and creative poison. Nobody knows if it was intentional or not.

Brian, Raphaella, The Toy Soldier, and Lyf are all best friends. They’re on the brain always. I can’t stop thinking about Raph and TS dancing together in that one live show..,

[duckduckngoose]

Reread the 'Orpheus and Narcissus Go on a Trip to the Seaside' for the first time since I got into the mechs and I am so normal about it I prommy (lie)

[agueforts]

it's just me and my club of one singular person who is also me, crouched over orpheus and narcissus go on a trip to the seaside just as a wolf over a freshly slain deer, against the world........

[c0rpsedemon]

the piece of fiction known as “orpheus and narcissus go on a trip to the seaside” on the the mechanisms website is written in third person limited, closely following the character orpheus.  in third person limited, it’s possible to be an unreliable narrator.  over the course of the fiction, the narrator frequently refers to how beautiful narcissus is and says “everyone was a little bit in love with narcissus.”  however, because the narrator only knew what orpheus knew, it is possible for this to just be false, and only believed by orpheus himself.  everyone is not, in fact, in love with narcissus, but orpheus was.  in this essay i will

[daughterdooley]

[ID: a digital drawing with a grainy filter over it in black and white of narcissus from ulysses dies at dawn, a tall white man with curly fair hair in a tailcoat tuxedo with a carnation pinned above his left breast pocket. he's leaning against a doorway with his arms crossed. his expression is vaguely concerned. END ID/]

It was just gratuitous. Silhouetted against the doorway in his artful subversion of a tuxedo, Narcissus looked just as fresh and angelic after a night of debauched revelry as he had at the start of the evening.

-Orpheus and Narcissus go on a Trip to the Seaside, The Mechanisms

(full color version under the cut)

[ID: the same image as above, but in color and without the filter. narcissus's hair is yellow-blonde, his eyes are blue, his suit is all blue, and the carnation is light green. END ID/]

[tornsuits]

alright ive been meaning to put this somewhere other than my notes app for a while. but someone actually asked for this so idk it's as good a time as any

every udad character mentioned in album or fiction, assuming i didn't forget any

under the cut bc there's so many jesus christ

ulysses (album, main character)

oedipus (album, suit, doctor/scientist)

heracles (album, suit, hitman? i think)

orpheus (album & fiction, suit, nymph, singer)

ariadne (album, suit, influencer??? ig??)

daedalus (album, technically a suit? inventor, might also be hephaestus)

penelope (mentioned in-album, ulysses's wife)

jocasta (presumably the name of oedipus's mother/wife [album], name confirmed on the youtube cover for trial by strength)

zeus (album & fiction [the hacker's mistake], olympian)

poseidon (mentioned in-album, ulysses stole his diamond)

laius (presumably the name of oedipus's father/person he killed, name confirmed on the album cover for favored son)

hades (album, mechanism, olympian)

calypso (mentioned in-album, runs a bar)

hylus (mentioned in-album, died during the "fleece job")

jason (mentioned in-album, lead the "fleece job")

prometheus (ttbt 1. [prometheus] & fiction [the hacker's mistake], hacker)

arachne (ttbt 2. [twisted threads], publicity person?? idk)

athena (ttbt 2. [twisted threads], olympian)

atcaea (ttbt 2. [atcaea & lyssa], hunter)

lyssa (ttbt 2. [atcaea & lyssa], hunter, got turned into a wolf)

artemis (ttbt 2. [atcaea & lyssa], olympian)

hermes (fiction [FAO: hermes: not urgent], olympian)

xenophon (fiction [death in metropolis], cerebral collector)

herodotus (fiction [FAO: hermes: not urgent], journalist)

narcissus (fiction [orpheus and narcissus go on a trip to the seaside] & jessica law song [narcissus under the knife], nymph, model)

dionysus (fiction [orpheus, dionysus, muriatic acid and the strange whirring thing], runs several speakeasies/bars/clubs)

silenus (mentioned in fiction [orpheus, dionysus, muriatic acid and the strange whirring thing], dionysus's old tutor)

hera (mentioned in fiction [muriatic acid], olympian)

pentheus (mentioned in fiction [muriatic acid], dionysus's cousin)

eurydice (mentioned in album and fiction [both orpheus fictions], orpheus's girlfriend)

echo (mentioned in fiction [seaside], one of narcissus's "society beauties")

linus (mentioned in fiction [muriatic acid], orpheus's brother)

teriesias (fiction [muriatic acid], works for the acheron)

aagamemnon (fiction [in the madness of war], field marshal)

palomedes (fiction [in the madness of war], has SOMETHING to do with the war, friend of ulysses)

achilleus (fiction [in the madness of war], war person)

patroclus (fiction [in the madness of war], achilleus's strategist and right-hand man)

menelaus (fiction [in the madness of war], general)

telemachus (mentioned in fiction [in the madness of war], ulysses's son)

phoebe (fiction [one of the chosen], scholar)

charon (fiction [one of the chosen], works for the acheron)

we know the other mechs are There but they didn't take on different names afaik so i'm not counting them

also presumably the other olympians Exist but those were the only ones explicitly mentioned

hopefully i didn't forget anyone bsjshs

[byron-von-raum]

Rebodied Toy Soldier Theory

Despite having a backstory and a semi-solid characterization for the Toy Soldier there’s a lot of questions we still have about it! To be expected among this impossible group of space pirates to be confused about their backstory and what makes them tick, in this way literally, but I have a theory that could answer a lot of those pressing questions.

Warning for image of choking, implied abuse, implied sex work, and canon typical fucked up stuff, especially UDAD related

So we don’t actually know in all certainty where the Toy Soldier is from. We have a few clues to help us out, though. 

1. The Toy Soldier was somewhere with very traditional English practices       “She taught him how to take proper English tea and how to talk like a real officer [...]” - SotTS (The Story of the Toy Soldier)

2. It came around not long after a revolution       “She once had a handsome fiance, but he had died in a long ago revolution. [...] The Toy Soldier was her favorite. He wore her fiance’s old uniform.” - SotTS

3. There is a Salvation Army or something similar on the same planet/colony

[ID: The Toy Soldier hitting a drum behind a procession of Salvation Army representatives with a sign above them reading “The Salvation Army.” An arrow points to the Toy Soldier in the back. A woman in the front tries to hand a pamphlet with a cross on it to a passerby. /END ID]

4. The planet/colony was knowledgable and within reach of the King Cole War        “[...] the Toy Soldier joined the ranks of the Rose Reds and fought in the bloody conflict of the Revolution.” - SotTS

5. The planet is close enough to the City from UDAD to have products imported from there.

You may be asking, “wait, Frankie, how do you know that?” Well, my dear friends, it’s actually rather stuble, but warnings for and image of choking, although crude.

[ID: A pencil drawing of the Toy Soldier choking out a woman with long, pale hair while she sleeps. A wine bottle lays empty above her head on the pillow. /END ID]

This lady is the Angel, a woman that the Toy Soldier fell in love with, presumably before leaving its original planet. So this scene also presumably happens on that same planet. Up in the top right corner is a wine bottle that reads “Dionysus 2011″ which is a product of Dionysus back in the City.

With that information, we know that products from the City were imported to this planet/colony. Whether this planet is, in fact, Earth or maybe just a colony of Earth is unclear and not entirely important. What is important is what other products the City might have had.

Re-bodying

“Orpheus’ story isn’t unusual: a broke young musician with a dead fiance, just another life chew up by the City. This broke young musician didn’t accept that though. Didn’t care that he didn’t have the money to have mind from the Acheron rebodied, or that those as were came back wrong.” - “Hades” Ulysses Dies at Dawn

Rebodying in the City is when someone takes a mind from the Acheron and places it in a new body. Someone dead being brought back. Now, let’s go back to the start of The Story of the Toy Soldier and take another gander at that rich old lady and her clockwork collection.

[ID: An old lady in a fancy dress smoking and leading the Toy Soldier away from a group of inanimate clockworks as it looks back at them. /END ID]

The most notable part of this image, I think, is the contrast between the Toy Soldier and the other clockworks. The other clockworks stand very still with no expression and seem more like dolls than the Toy Soldier, who holds close to itself and follows, looks nervous, looks confused. From this image alone, it’s clear the Toy Soldier isn’t like the other clockworks.

“But Frankie!” I hear you cry. “There’s no evidence that the rebodied people are put in animatronic bodies! Even in one of the fictions, the other people from the City think the Toy Soldier looks odd!” 

“Understandly, Narcissus now refused to have a Somnambulist in the house, and shuddered every time his eyes met the vacant gaze of one outside in the street. He was even deeply suspicious of the Toy Soldier at Dionysus’ speakeasy, despite its unconventional yet obvious sentience.” - Orpheus and Narcissus Go on a Trip to the Seaside

Well, first of all, that’s one person who finds the Toy Soldier uneasy and even then he was more concerned that it was a Somnambulist than it being a clockwork. I find that weird in of itself but that’s not exactly the point, is it? In fact, Orpheus at one point even thinks of the Toy Soldier as a strange re-bodying job.

“They’d soon promoted one of the nymphs to fill his place though: a bizarre prancing, whirring thing that would frolic and cavort for the clients’ amusement, flaunting an incongruously innocent joie de vivre. Some said it had stolen the voice of an angel, but Orpheus thought it sounded pretty human to him. It looked like another bizarre re-bodying job, although apparently it had been bought at a knockdown price from one of Dionysus’ business partners, Parsiphäe Minos, after the genius automaton designer had found it in her basement a while back.” - Orpheus, Dionysus, Muriatic Acid, and the Strange Whirring Thing

“Another strange re-bodying job?” you ask. “What other re-bodying job has Orpheus seen?”

Well, first of all, I think you’re missing the point but I’ll show you anyway.

“Orpheus had also heard recently of a new consultant based at Delphi (a strange re-bodied job by the sound of it) who would give good “moral” advice to assuage the guilt of atrocity wreakers: everything was excusable as long as the ends justified the means.” -  Orpheus, Dionysus, Muriatic Acid, and the Strange Whirring Thing

What’s interesting about this is that Brian, who is referenced here, is in fact a strange re-bodied job. He was technically re-bodied into his all-metal body.

That’s beside the point. The important thing is that, although these wooden and metallic re-bodyings are strange, they are only strange. They aren’t impossible, they aren’t incredibly uncommon, and they aren’t questioned. They’re just strange. Perhaps, the technology for this type of re-bodying isn’t the most uncommon thing out there if there isn’t a body available. Perhaps, even, the bodies just look more “human” when re-bodied than the Toy Soldier or Drumbot Brian do.

So, back to the point of the imported products from the City on the Toy Soldier’s originally colony and the fact that those who are re-bodied never come back quite right, we come to the climax of the theory:

The Toy Soldier is a re-bodied version of the old lady’s dead fiance.

Let’s corral all the evidence:

1. The old lady favors the Toy Soldier and acted like it was her dead fiance, even going as far as to have the Toy Soldier say things like “I love you” to her

      “Sometimes she made him say things he didn’t understand.” - SotTS

[ID: A pencil drawing of a spilled teacup, a thrown high hell, and a shattered tea saucer at the foot of a chair. There’s a speech bubble that reads “I love you.” /END ID]

2. Products were imported to this planet from the City

3. Re-bodying jobs that look like Drumbot Brian or the Toy Soldier are only considered “strange” (at least by Orpheus)

4. No one in the City entirely thought the Toy Soldier as odd except for looking re-bodied

Conclusion: The Toy Soldier is a re-bodied version of the old woman’s fiance after he died in the revolution. Liking clockworks, the old lady had her re-bodied fiance look like a clockwork. The Toy Soldier didn’t come back quite right, which is common for a re-bodying job. Frustrated with this, the old lady taught the Toy Soldier things that would make it more similar to her dead fiance like how to compliment her, what to say to sound like a real officer, and to tell her it loves her.

Now, this has a lot of implications in a lot of directions that you are free to speculate on and I would also love to hear other people’s input. Either way, thanks for reading my inane theory and thanks to the people in the various Discord servers I’m in for helping me with this!

[majorshatterandhare]

Eurydice/Orpheus/Narcissus/Echo polycule.

Orpheus dates Eurydice and Narcissus,

Narcissus dates Orpheus and Echo,

Echo dates Narcissus and Eurydice,

And Eurydice dates Echo and Orpheus.

It’s a square.

[discountdyke]

i wish i could put into words how much i love both “Orpheus, Dionysus, Muriatic Acid and the Strange Whirring Thing” and “Orpheus and Narcissus Go on a Trip to the Seaside”. theres something so intimate in its exploration of grief, addiction, and, of course, what it means to be best friends out of proximity. two broken people, nothing particularly special about them aside from their heartbreak finding each other and whiling the time away.

[reegis]

Orpheus in the mechanisms canon is such a great character, especially in Orpheus & Narcissus Go on a Trip to the Seaside because he’s watching his best friend Narcissus struggle to cope with his superstitious idiosyncrasies and his borderline obsession with that mirror & Orpheus thinks to himself “damn hes Mentally Ill™️, theyr gonna put him in the asylum fr 😔” as if he, Orpheus, isn’t having potentially prophetic dreams, isn’t actively stockpiling brain-melting acid in his room, and wasn’t just caught trying to rebreak his own toe with a book like… ok king of 0 self-reflection!! absolute legend, please continue!!!