My current fascination is reading MrBeast Moral discussions because I really don't disagree with the reasonable perspectives from any angle.
It's true, he does some cruel shit that has a positive impact in ways that are inherently immoral but necessary in the current system that he has no control over, but does make poor people dance for life-changing money he can just give out at will, at random, and that the people involved are more than willing and likely don't feel exploited as much as they do helped, and still at least it's being given individually instead of to vague causes or personally owned charities, he also does have a pure philanthropy channel, works with the mayor to help the community and projects there, he also does have a bit of an ego to have a burger named after him, it is fucked up that people would have to live in a mall for years for money, but let's be honest we'd all do his little dance for life-changing money, that guy might still be in the mall honestly I dunno, that's not his fault, it's capitalism, focusing on him is a waste of time when you could focus on far worse, but then again, he did literally make Squid Games real.
I don't know how to feel. I'm closer to "Yeah fuck this guy" than liking him, not simply out of principle or whatever, the dude works with the algorithm, in disgusting ways he really doesn't have to let's be honest, the twitter follow thing for 25k or 250k or whatever is genuinely depraved behavior, but it's just following a dude on a website you don't have to use, a genuinely corrupt website, but he can just do that, and he does.
I know for a fact we've all imagined being rich and what we'd do with it to help others. So, it's hard to hate it when you finally get what you wished for...ya know? Like, here it is, as good as it's gonna get and it's more of a moral question than a cool thing to do, actually.
Sure, he could just not hoard the wealth, but you kinda need wealth to actually give wealth, but you're still hoarding it, but at the very least, he's giving it directly to people, even the contestants that lost are still paid for their work/time. I don't think any one of us would find going to a gameshow you agreed to, to be degrading or whatever, it'd be fun! And a cool experience! That's the thing people don't mention, he's not doing the bare minimum, he's actually do ALOT more than most Rich People or CEOs do on a daily basis honestly.
The way I see it, it is, in fact, absolutely disgusting. I don't know how to feel about a person I've never met, but to really hate him, you have to really think about it, and come to conclusions that, really warrant a response from him for a conclusion, one he's NEVER going to be allowed to give safely if he wants to keep his status. No matter what he says, it will be bad PR that will become controversy. At least he's not diddling kids, at least he's not ordering assassinations, and honestly?
If I'm not being straight up lied to? His networth is estimated between 100,000,000$-500,000,000$ (Million) It's actually at a point of concern, right? He's just 500,000,000$ from a billion!
But... I can type that number, you can feel disgusted, upset, all warranted, but then I want you to read that number compared to Jeff Bezos
500,000,000$ (Mr.B)
200,900,000,000$ (Amazon Cunt) (40X Mr. B)
I know you've all seen a comparison image before, but seriously, Mr.Beast could be far more disgusting in wealth hoarding. Like if we were to eat the rich one day? I don't even want to put him on the list, I think he'd honestly not even be worth it, there's far more cruel and vain rich to focus on in that same area. He comes off as the kinda guy who'd gladly cut his wealth by a very large fraction, even if solely out of utter fear.
But then again, he did quite literally make Squid Games real, I just don't think people get that Squid Games represented far more corruption with more intricacies, entities and politics, than Mr. Beast capitalizing on a gameshow where everybody gets money at the end, they chose to do this, nobody dies or lives in cruel conditions or go unfed the whole time, and they're having fun.
But, still, Mr. Beast the person, I get it, Truly, I do not disagree with your feelings, but I do disagree to the temperament. For sure it's all warranted, but I feel the focus on him over the system has caused a rift between people wanting to defend him rather blindly, and people so far deep into the hole of knowledge that simply reasoning with people vs completely demonizing would be far more effective at spreading knowledge to more people. As it stands, ya just look like a person fighting a pig in the mud, and bystanders walking by aren't gonna know the pig fucked your boy-wife nor the deep complex lore behind the story.
Seriously, reading through an old post that initially made me disgusted with Mr. B, left me disgusted with Mr. B, but not nearly as mad as people get with him. I also somehow ended up thinking slightly more about, if not of, him than I would ever have without reading what people said. There's alot of interesting discussion that people were making that simply didn't always get bounced off of. I saw some even say it provided them a blocklist, and like, this ain't the...thing to do that for? Nobody was being immoral, except the people with murderous rhetoric that's just awful, but they weren't on the blocklist apparently, so that's priorities right there, echoboxes!
Save it for someone worthy, like if you seriously can put Mr. B on that paper, and on another, Jeff Bezos, we're just not compatible in philosophy, this relationship is over. I'm taking the sword collection.
If people were more willing to discuss this topic, I really think it'd make people consider more than previous on the entire subject. You aren't going to convince his fans or bystanders he's evil and thus capitalism bad, you gotta just point out what he has to work with, ya gotta compromise with people, and they gotta compromise too, but again, pig in the mud, bystanders will respect a farmer more than a crazy person fighting a pig in the mud. Shit sucks, but that's the game, and nobody's gonna learn those rules if you don't suggest better ones.
Dunno where to add this, but something to understand is we all start off small, you shouldn't be mad at someone for not being as far in as you are, they gotta learn to swim first, they gotta get comfortable and learn the basics before learning about Ronald Reagan.
I feel the entire scope of the actual problem gets projected upon this one dude that doesn't entirely fit together, it might fit well in some places, places he definitely made himself, but he's far more layered of a person than the Actual 1%/0.1%, but he's still a flawed human, pieces fit in some areas but the more ya look the less they fit the way you'd want them too. The most I can say is, he's at least believing he's doing good in a definitely selfish way I think he at least somewhat wants to fight back against by doing legitimate good, again, more than Jeff Bezos. There's far, far more humanity to discuss with Mr. Beast than...well shit just about anyone with his, lower or higher, net worth.
I dunno how to put this to ya'll, but we're not gonna do that thing in Ants where we realize there's more of us than them, and then we...do...something, I think we pull the crab back down the bucket? They're so high up, that's gotta be it.
We're gonna need, in fact it is a requirement, that people with any amount of wealth don't get crab bucketted because we're so starved by people far more influential and negatively impacting than Mr. B.
At some point you're just dragging us all down to our graves, instead of pushing crabs up, you start arguments which causes the push to weaken and tire over time. You gotta trust when the time comes, that they'll come help tip the bucket. You will Never get that if you have more guillotines than problems.
And no, to be completely clear, I am not saying you can't hate 2 things at once, but I am saying, pick better enemies than people infinitely closer to you than Jeff Bezos. Not that 500m is realistic for any of us, but it's not 200,900,000,000$ary doos. It's actual comical, villainously so, how much worse the 0.1% are compared to someone with 500mil Net Worth.
Oh and I did some more research, from what he's said, all the money is from brand deals n sponsorships, ads, the burgers, dude reinvests back in, and for the most part he doesn't make the money back every time instantly. Thing is, every site I try to find anymore on is some absolute GARBO so research is actually a bitch for the average joe. I don't know how much of that is true, it's from Reddit with no sources. Great research I know. I'm not really looking at this from a fully informed view, not yet at least, kind've more so immediately after the concert, if you will. Most people aren't fully informed either, and that is a tragedy of potential knowledge being lost. I really think a wider, less angry and non-violent discussion would be better overall for the collective knowledge.
If a reasonable, well discussed consensus comes to it and we do have to eat him, fine, but I don't think we're even remotely at the point as a collective we can say that should be the case. I genuinely think putting more effort into learning, considering more, might tip most of ya'll towards him, you'll still not like him, but you don't need to like him, nobody does, if the discussion is if he's a bad person, fine he's done some shit, but really...
Horses in seperate directions? for the youtuber guy with burgers? Really gonna use that raw as fuck line because he gave 25k away on twitter to 10 randoms? That's the line crossed for you? That's when you drop that fucking dope line? Really. Really?? Really. Couldn't just...wait a week for someone to die at Amazon again? Suckerborg isn't spreading pro-genocide propaganda? There isn't a Rapist in multiple court cases running for president?
Really. The burger youtuber guy. Horses. Seperate directions.
The Burger Youtuber Guy.
Really.
Not even saved for Onision?
at the least I can say, I sure wish this system didn't enable this behavior, and I sure wish we didn't have a government that will absolutely abandon you at the first need for any sort of help, and that people can praise concepts that boil down to a rich person throwing pennies at starving children and laughing, that even saying that, you'd still have to consider there's people even worse that absorb an entire economy and country, to the point that, yeah, ya know? Maybe he can laugh and throw pennies. Fuck it. Everything is fucked. Absolute Fucking Circus. But at least it's interesting to philosophize about? More than...just decided your principles apply directly to this situation so cleanly you don't need to consider anymore.
Of course, I'm not saying you absolutely should focus on this subject or person, I am saying however, open your mind a bit more, and discuss it more clearly. This is a subject matter where you can branch the uninformed and youthful into understanding problems we're dealing with now, but by being close-minded, loudly, violently, you instead push them to capitalism.
I'm just saying, there's opportunity here for more discussions and critical thinking that are better than making people not want to listen to anti-capitalism if it means their favorite youtuber's gonna get the fucking horses. be reasonable.
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