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babyangelsky · 1 year ago

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Non is the hidden character and in this essay I will—

—endeavor to make a really good case for it.

This theory is predicated on the possibility of Non still being alive so for my purposes, I'm going to take that as fact. I'm taking a few liberties in places (to varying degrees of clownery) but that central point doesn't change.

This is a long one so get comfy. Okay? Okay.

As of episode 9, we can now be reasonably certain that none of the creepy shit the boys saw was of supernatural origin. They were hallucinations induced by the drug that New/Tan had them smoke in an attempt to get them to spill their secrets about what happened to Non.

Which brings me to Por.

We know two things about Por. One, that something—or someone—lured him out of the house and two, that he saw a ninth person on the house's CCTV.

Was the ninth person a hallucination? If he hadn't been lured out of the house, I'd say maybe. Since he was, let's assume he really did see someone for a second on the cameras.

Now, whoever it was didn't just get Por out of the house. He was specifically led down a predetermined path. When he gets outside and goes to the spot where he saw the figure, he looks down and sees a trail of blood.

He follows this trail and we all know what happens next. He gets deeper into the woods, away from the safety of the house, and starts to hear noises. He turns around, sees a hooded figure following him, and gets chased into a sharpened branch.

Even though New and Phi, although to a lesser extent, are the masterminds behind this little trip to the vacation house, at this moment they are both accounted for. New is playing jenga and getting high with Top and Fluke and Phi is up on the balcony having his dick bitten by Jin. They weren't the ones who lured Por and chased him.

Non did.

What, we're meant to believe that Por just happened to hallucinate a chase that happened to lead him right into a conveniently sharpened branch? And that of all the gin joints in all the cities in all the world, he just had to walk into mine the bad luck of encountering the one branch that was at the perfect height to impale him?

Which is, coincidentally enough, the exact death scenario that Non wrote in his script?

BE SERIOUS.

The only way Por meets this exact death is if Non was the one to kill him, and that leads me to the wire that ended up decapitating poor dead Uncle Dang. A wire which I truly don't think that was meant for him.

Let's follow this line of reasoning. We know that Top and Tee took the road when they went to get help for Por on the bike. This would ultimately fail as they got a flat tire and had to go back, having themselves a hallucination a piece along the way.

At that point, there was no wire stretched across the road. Once they got back to the house, no one would come outside again until morning when they heard Uncle Dang approach on his bike. The wire could've been strung up at any point after the boys got back.

Let's say that after ensuring Por got impaled, Non stuck around to see the aftermath and saw Tee and Top on the bike. Wouldn't it make more sense then for him to have strung up the wire to prevent anyone from leaving as opposed to stopping anyone from coming in?

Because if he is following his script then...

"But Leah," I hear you ask after having humored me thus far, "How would Non even know that the boys would be at the vacation house?"

This is where I sit back down at my vanity mirror in the dressing room at the circus and start taking some liberties.

For Non to have lived, someone had to help him. I mentioned yesterday that I was hopping on the Perth helped Non train and after giving it more thought, I'm doubling down. It's not only possible that Perth helped Non, he had to have done it, and not only because I want Non to be alive so very badly.

Why would Perth and his cheekbones be on the promotional poster for the finale (BESIDE NON I MIGHT ADD) if his character weren't important to the plot? Why would he be there if his only role was to massage Uncle Joe's shoulders?

Allow me to posit a Wild Ass Theory a la @respectthepetty :

If Perth's character helped Non and Known Criminal Keng escape Uncle Joe, that means the video where they were captured getting on a bus was authentic.

But because Uncle Joe and the mafia are still a threat, they can't just go chill somewhere. They have to go on the run and into hiding somewhere they won't be found.

Somewhere like a rarely visited vacation house in the middle of the forest with no contact with the outside world.

Or, alternatively, a creepy temple near that rarely visited vacation house.

Think about it. Non had already been to that house, he's familiar with it, he knows it's empty for long stretches of time and exactly how isolated it is. A terrified teenager fearing for his life is going to want to go somewhere familiar and that house (or the temple) is the perfect place to hide.

I don't think Non went to hide there with the intention, or the hope rather, that he'd get an opportunity for revenge one day. I think he just took advantage of a situation that fell into his lap.

The boys arrived in the afternoon and shit didn't start going down until later that night. That's plenty of time to sharpen a branch, lay down a blood trail, and put on his mask and cloak.

We know all the movie props and the camera and everything were still at the house so it stands to reason that Non had access to them. And we know he had access to the house because White found the knife that was used to cut Por's arms in the closet in the kitchen. The only way that knife could've gotten there is if Non put it there.

Not just any knife, by the way. It was Non's knife, the one that he brought to the house when they came to film and then used to cut Top.

I can't say with any certainty whether Non is acting on his own or with help, but I lean more toward him acting alone. Even if he escaped with Keng, it doesn't mean Keng is still with him all this time later and besides, I much prefer to imagine that ol' boy got eaten by a tiger.

One last thing. This isn't really part of my theory, more like support for it, but when Por is agonizing on the couch, he keeps saying sorry and trying to talk about what he and the boys did three years ago. It could just be a coincidence or deathbed guilt, but I don't think it is. I think Por knows exactly who killed him and that's why he kept apologizing and trying to confess.

In conclusion:

Hope you don't mind being tagged for the DFF round up @slayerkitty ! 🙏🏼

#i'm fully prepared to be wrong #i'm expecting it even #but GOD i hope i'm right #i need non to be alive SO BADLY #dead friend forever #dead friend forever the series #non #meta

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rocketturtle4 · 1 year ago

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Pit Babe Thoughts - What a Banger of a show!

So having just realised I watched the entire CUT VERSION of this show and now planning to rewatch the entire thing from scratch because it's so good I want my extra minutes DANG IT.

I thought I'd put some thoughts down first because DAMN this show may not have been perfectly polished but it was amazing for a multitude of reasons.

Playing fast and loose with pairings and ships.

Now obviously our main 2 ships were our main 2 ships, we haven't entered a parallel universe, but the amount of tension they threw in anytime ANY two sides were together was delicious. It's fun to not know who will end up with who, the show teased and toyed with possible pairings and I LOVED IT.

(Also main ships may have been main but I was half wondering if we WOULD end up with Way/Babe somewhere in the middle there!)

2. Having fun with personalities and sex dynamics.

Now I have recently run across the understanding that a lot of BL is based of one specific pairing type from a much broader range of couple dynamics present in Yaoi and Shounen-ai (super darling X milquetoast) stories. And while this doesn't really feel like we're distant from that pairing type. The show doesn't strictly fit this and certainly plays with the audience perception by having Babe as the Uke.

3. Omegaverse

OBVIOUSLY

But also introducing lesser known elements of Omegaverse like Enigma's was extra cool.

4. New settings!

Racing BLs aren't exactly the norm.

5. More playing with lanuguage dynamics

Not brand-new but we got a lot of play around language and age, Papa Mama, Loong and Nu, The way Alan switched around his "I" Pronoun so much. BL not leaning so heavily on Pom and Phi or Gu and Mung or even Khun and Pom is fun to see!

6. A lot of casual physical affection

Now this is definitely becoming more common but I still want to highlight how physically affectionate Babe and Charlie (In particular) got to be with each other the whole time

Overall the series was compelling, intense, and well executed. The relationships (Friendships and romantic) were utterly compelling. I love the way so much teasing was done with all the side peeps. I love how it had real stakes, emotions and consequences. I loved how much it played out the background and relationships of the characters, the way that all of Tony's children felt something for him, were compelled to love and hate and feel responsible. I loved how some people got forgiveness and others didn't and how people's very real pain, anger and betrayal got explored so deeply.

The show was not flawless or perfectly executed by any means.

But it was a compelling and interesting plot with utterly compelling relationships played all the way out without rushing or skipping.

And I loved it

I am off to watch the Uncut Version, can't wait.

#Pit Babe #Pit Babe the series #Rocket4Reviews #rturts is wondering #this show was really seriously good #just fun and beautiful and compelling and emotional

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feuqueerfire · 3 months ago

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ThamePo Live Blogging

Ah, one of my most anticipated GMMTV shows and one that's gotten generally good reception, what a treat. I'd debated watching it as it was airing, especially because I was getting a lot of tweets on my For You when the first few episodes were airing but was nervous about it ending badly, so I waited, and I hope I love it now. I just reread my initial thoughts from GMMTV 2024 Part 2 Showcase, seems like I had A Lot of thoughts lol.

Also this is an original script right? Like it seems to me that it’s written with Lykn and William in mind since it’s an idol band show and I have hopes that it’s like a well thought-out show because of it.

Ep 1: Dreaming With A Broken Heart (Mar 16)

It's actually 12:09AM on Sunday lol. Gonna watch maybe 1 episode or maybe just 1-2 parts and go to sleep. I should've started on Saturday but I just wasted the day away smh

1-1

Oh man, I forgot that in the beginning we have to deal with Po being jobless and unable to find work owwww too close to home

the interviewer saying “Next time if you want work, you don’t have to be this honest” like frrrr why’d you mention your faen lol

Is EarnChop guy Po’s ex? oh lol Already we see the Earn and Po mugs and photos

Dang, at least his parents are supportive, including monetarily

hehe his bias already beginning to be Thame

1-2

lol please why did he go into so much detail about MARS if he wasn’t supposed to be a fan but he is honesty ended up well this time lol

Baifern is a life saver fr the way she hooked up Po w this job

Sammy and Drake as Ming and Tae they’re fun

oooh sasaeng loan word from the korean/kpop scene

I remember seeing a bit about their first meeting

1-3

Ah, poor Po but also Thame must have gone through a lot

moooooody Thame and all the staff catering to him, favouring him

not super taken by the music yet, don’t know if it’ll be a MSP scenario where I loved all the songs and listened on repeat

Clearly there’s bitterness within the group for Thame’s favouritism

please why are they talking about the disbandment in public at the event

lmfao of course Thame remembers Po being outside one single fanmeeting with a camera

1-4

Thame is Po’s Phi heheheh

Po taking out his frustrations in Earn on Thame frrrr omg also it makes him seem even more like an overly emotionally involved sasaeng

Thame remembers Po because he’s different from the others lol

Okay they’re becoming friendly by the end already. I… am tempted to watch ep 2 as well but it’s already 1am. I enjoy a haughty celebrity character for sureee though I think that’s almost over for Thame, if not already behind him after ep 1 lol

Ep 2: A Step You Can’t Take Back (Mar 16)

2-1

Baifern is so funny, love her. Cuise you’re great

not Po accidentally making it seem like he wants to get to know Thame in a more romantic way lol

and digging himself into a hole when trying to explain to Thame that it’s not romantic lolll

“Oh… was that romantic?” the way William says it at 5:30 is sooo good lol

I’ve seen a part of that scene on Twitter I think

Thame’s chocolate milk lol

Mick is such an annoying boss

hiii Joong

in-text acknowledgement from Thame that he does the selfish, conceited celebrity image on purpose

Thame obediently putting his face in Po’s hand

Po staring at his hand lolll

It’s fun to think about the staff who have to actually do prep and setup for the lives and events of the koop idols i’ve watched

2-2

Aw, the members didn’t come/weren’t told to come

We’re beginning the Thame’s real feelings arc

2-3

They made Thame do solo and pressured him to sign with the Korean agency… and told him it’s for the group’s own good because they can’t pursue their own goals because of MARS and his schedules… but I think I’ve seen conspiracies about who set up stuff/lied to different members, so I’m thinking the house with each member’s bed having their own little hobby strewn about and “William and friends” in the journal might be the company’s doing

2-4

Deciding to not go and revive the group on a whim like this is wild but go Thame

ah, the sandwich motif

Done already?! The eps are like 40-45 mins long and so don’t take much time to watch at all. Though it’s 13 eps, so the overall runtime will probably be around the same as around 50 min 12 el series i guess?

Ep 3: Trouble Is a Friend (Mar 16)

uh it’s 6am, gonna watch a little bit before i go to sleep after seheri huhu. I’m already so into this

3-1

he can stay in Thailand but basically not do anything or practice with Mars

Ah… Jun? working with company CEO to find who made Thame stay

3-2

beautiful, gorgeous Fah playing Gam

lol Thame and Jun battling in front of the camera while giving a friendly image

Seems like Jun defeated Thame this time loll even tho Thame dropped a nugget about new album and coming back

3-3

Damn, the Jun and game center story is both so scripted but so genuine hmm Is it really a script that the CEO approved or smth from Thame because how would the script writers know that Jun got Thame to ditch practice when Thame took the blame that time

3-4

clever Jun

Ah, Jun knows how they’re putting Thame through a lot and making him pay for everything and he wants the group to continue. and that Thame is selfless in this situation

Jun’s the one watering the tree?

ahh it’s so fun that Jun punched Thame first before dylan did because Jun didn’t actually mean it and knows Thame well

girl just text him/call him, why does Thame need to memorize Po’s number lol

At first I was a little like they’re not explaining the plan much, how would the members/Jun even know what Thame is planning? But Jun seemed to know quite well exactly what Thame wants, so it makes sense this time I guess

Ep 4: Love The Way You Lie (Mar 16)

1:30pm, starting up my binge again. I had to watch the Shut Up I'm Talking episode with Tubbo first loll otherwise I would've started this at like 12pm

4-1

Are we barely getting any story for Pepper? We're moving onto Dylan quickly

damn Dylan actually thinks badly of Thame now but fr what could Thame even do lol the company gotta accept the song

4-2

hmm what’s Dylan up to?

Ah, hiding among the rows of boxes in a tight space. common trope, reminds me of Semantic Error and Bad Buddy

Jun is so clever and perceptive lol he already know Po likes Thame… though he hasn’t yet figured out that it’s reciprocated or just isn’t letting it out yet

4-3

agh fuck tumblr why’d i lose my thoughts written for this part

4-4

noo why didn’t Po join the group so far when it came to the rap battle

damn Nano was there too?

oh it’s because Po’s in his head about Jun saying Thame won’t like him and won’t need him soon either

ohhh I saw clips of this “sorry i haven’t replied, have you been overthinking?” scene. suave Thame but it’s because he’s learned from his mistakes

ah they’re getting closer

Dylan aiming to publicly humiliate Thame was too much for me. These eps are quite Mars focused with fewer ThamePo interactions until the end but I don’t mind, I actually didn’t notice the lack of their interactions until we started getting their interactions in part 4 lol

Ep 5: Love Never Felt So Good (Mar 16)

5-1

i find it fun that Po wants to prove to Jun that Thame likes him back hehe even though he was insecure before the long call

this is the Thame jealous of Jun episode hehe I’ve been looking forward to it

5-2

lmfao crying at Thame being jealous but Po real for realizing Thame didn’t like Po talking about Jun

Ah, Nano is civil and nice but clearly avoiding them and not getting close. That’s interesting, he’s not as outwardly lashing out as Dylan but obviously hurt

Nano skilled in these camping related problems

Cryingggg at Po’s annoyed “]Why did you interrupt Thame like that?” at Jun

5-3

aw Nano afraid

5-4

They got Nano on board now

if I was a Mars fan, i’d be into Jun and Dylan’s bickering dynamic. Okay I just checked and Jun/Dylan have a ton of fics on AO3 lol that’s understandable. after watching the ep i was on the ep 5 hashtag on twitter and lots of JunDylan edits on there too lmao ppl really can’t resist this dynamic

If I was Thame, Nano asking Jun to thank Po on his behalf because to him it seems like Po is close to Jun would send me over the edge

oh silly Thame doesn’t fully realize if he has feelings for Po lol thanks Pepper for calling him out on it

I’m sorry the street crossing thing really is so silly. Like I get that crossing roads is a skill in and of itself in SEA (girl I can’t cross by myself back home either) but why does Po keep staring at his phone and missing going along with the crowd omg

Bit of an awkward lead up for me but it’s cute that Thame has realized he likes Po after hugging him. but also why in public you’re a celebrity

Ep 6: Somewhere Only We Know (Mar 16)

6-1

Damn, did Thame almost confess to Po

oh, are we following Pepper this episode?

Ah, Pepper was wanting Thame to not have feelings for Po which makes a lot of sense because this makes things more complicated

Pepper is seeing someone, ah. and the CEO knows it too

6-2

Pepper, girl, you can just date in secret like all the other idols

oh no is Po crying, is that a tear

6-3

loll Ming and Tae have matching couple rings. They uncovered a different secret couple instead of Pepper’s person

ohhh Pepper’s dating Gam (Fah)?

6-4

Ah, Pepper is now on board too

lmfaooo not Jun having to apologize for flirting with Gam

Thame is such a fool pleaseeeee he told Po to take care of himself in order to fight together in his journey but worded it as if they’re done and this is the end

Thame looks so cute with the hoodie on the walk with Po

They’re soooo silly, don’t want the night to end. Just walking each other back home and to the bus stop and back home lmaoo okay this is very cute. The other end-of-episode romantic moments were sometimes a bit much for me but this one really hits

Ah, the 5 meter 5 cm line from the pilot trailer

I like Fah so much, I wish her husband wasn’t… like that, meaning she’s okay with it.

Ep 7: (Mar 16)

7-1

Pepper is a real one fr and lmao his frustration that Jun usurped the MV filming plan from Thame

I wonder what Jun wants from Po, he can’t actually like Po, right?

7-2

girl what is up with Jun getting between Po and Thame lmao. Dylan was saying that Jun did the same when he and Thame were getting close at least.

Okay, Jun’s just annoying about pushing Po to do his best and become a director

7-3

Bro why are the vibes again like Jun likes Po or smth? or Thame?

7-4

wtfffff Oner stole their song and gave it to Joong?

Ah, they want the success to be for Tpop abroad, not just for money and success. But a group seems more plausible, no? Like Korea likes their idol groups, not as much idol solos, esp if they’re not from an already popular group.

Oh nooooo Thame dropped his movie ticket and stood Po up. jk he’s crazy in love so he still made it

why are you hugging like this in a public movie theatre

I like Thane’s jealousy because it’s understandable and it’s not overbearing or controlling. It’s also something Po feels, that Jun is getting between them, so it’s not like he feels jealous of Po being close to his best friend or smth.

I really really should have binged this starting Saturday and not Sunday at 12am. Could’ve finished the whole series this weekend instead of just half and I gotta go to work tmrw

Ep 8: The Winner Takes It All (Mar 17)

Watching it again at 8:30 after work and other things. Hope I can watch 2-3 eps tonight and finish tomorrow

8-1

girl, not Jun waiting for Po at the theatre??? it was after Thame and Po already left though…

how would Dylan be a songwriter and not have a vault of half written songs man

bruh, I neeeeed a Thame and Jun confrontation scene nowwww. it almost happened last ep before the other song got released and everybody was side tracked and now at the movie theatre Jun just walked away like no i need an argument right nowww. Like if you’re gonna build up this much, the conclusion has to be explosive

I actually burst out laughing at Jun’s “become a better person for you, unlike the previous guy who was good for nothing” lyrics idea like what is wronggggg with him lmfao

8-2

The other 3 Mars members watching Thame Po and Jun interactions lmfao

not them choosing JunPo vs ThamePo lmfao

8-3

okay finally they’ll talk

sure fine, they go at each other just a bit but then make up which i guess makes sense because they’re from the same actual group Lykn and we can’t have too much fighting??

8-4

are they both gonna try to woo Po? Jun didn’t even admit that he actually likes Po

Ah, Jun said he doesn’t like Po and that he’s realized Thame and Po like each other

lmaooo Jun told each other them about the other’s feelings. “confessed on someone else’s behalf”

Ah, they’re still not explicitly saying they like each other but obviously they know

ahhhh this is the part where i saw so much on twitter, Po’s gonna think Thame’s buying condoms and such but literally Thame is so silly and wouldn’t make any advances and then Mars will be like… so you just watched a movie? and that’s it.. you fool!!

Ep 9: (Mar 17)

I should take a break to go through ThamePo January gifsets and stuff but I’m excited about so 9 lol

9-1

Po is so Aware of that bag containing the supposed condom box

lmfao everything sounds like an innuendo now

i’m kinda flinging myself around whenever Thame says something else that sounds wild lol

ah, hand holding at least

wtf not even a kiss when you’re like 2cm away? and why didn’t Po just lean forward a bit if he wanted

9-2

Mars all roasting Thame for not sleeping with Po last night lmfao

Did Mars finish creating and uploading their self produced song already? that’s fast but i guess they only had a week or whatever

I’ve skipped all their performances ngl

oh i did notttttt know this was actually their first kiss loll its crazy

9-3

Interruption?! Baifern cmonnnn

Ahhh Baifern inadvertently exposing Po’s secret love for Mars about the voting and stuff but also… him still keeping Earn’s shirts and the sandwich and stuff

They were about to have sec and now it’s all this happening lol. but fr I get Thame like okay maybe one random shirt ended up accidentally staying in the closet but all of your ex’s clothes? And you still wear them? And keep his mug with his ex’s name omgggg

the sandwich shop tantrum is funny lol

ah boyfriends…

9-4

Ah, a music show win

This is their first music show win? So is the group unpopular? Biggest money maker at Oner but that doesn’t necessarily mean much? But how is Thame apparently so popular that a korean agency wants him, I don’t even get that aspect at all?? And also they’re hoping for an all-kill?????? this is your first music show win!!!

Also did I dream someone in the beginning saying that Mars is Oner’s biggest moneymaker? or misinterpreted it?

Don’t have much to say about this second time when they hook up, it’s fine but doesn’t do much for me

Ep 10: Set Fire To The Rain (Mar 18)

I’m a bit nervous to start this last 4 episode arc because I think this is when shit starts hitting the fan?

10-1

lmaoo not Mars doing a little celebration for Thame having “grown up”/lost his virginity

girl, this group is hitting #1 in almost all the charts with their song already? A song that took one week to made with no company help? lol

Ah… the public starts finding out. Wild that it took them so long when Thame and Po have been doing everything in public from the beginning

And it’s not even Thame but rather Pepper who got caught after being carful for so long.

If Pepper getting caught means that people are tearing down his posters and everybody’s talking about it and Omer is getting endless phone calls and he’s not even Thame, supposedly the most popular one, then Mars is a popular group!!! How would it not be profitable to keep them going omg

Aw, Peoper and Gam are cute… and Gam is the Phi ahh… but also they are still in public lol

10-2

The CEO leaked the Pepper scandal to stop ThamePo photos getting leaked. I can’t figure out if we’re supposed to think she’s smart or not. Like she’s one track minded which is ehhh and she’s willing to do whatever but it seems silly that she focuses so much on Thame when the group itself seems quite viable

Ah… Po fired…

I mean I don’t disagree here like if you Have to let Pepper or Thame take the fall, Pepper makes more sense and that if they were going to do things their way, they should’ve thought of things like this but… couldn’t Oner just have paid off Leak It

Okay, Po works with Ice now

Aw, Thame and Po meeting each other in all this chaos

The GROUP fanbase on twitter went on Rest? when tf does that happen over a dating scandal

Baifern… a grown adult, why are you reacting like this omg

but the fanbase going on rest makes more sense if she was the only admin lol

10-3

any buzz is good buzz ig

I really cannot understand Baifern’s mentality, especially as someone who doesn’t seem like she lacks much in her real life that she seeks to fill with Mars

oh noooo they found out that it’s Gam?

…will they break up or deny it or smth?

10-4

They’re breaking up… oh no…

oh no I get Gam being upset about it because they’re really tearing her apart and her hard work might go down the drain like this. ;-;

the media is so easily appeased lol. i do worry about Baifern still though

A press conference is interesting, Thai media does seem to love those whereas a kpop company would post written statements

my poor Gam ahhhh oh noooo ;-;

please everybody is so easy to placate lmaooooo and now some ppl are like hmm there’s nothing wrong with being an idol in love

Ah, this will obviously take a toll on Po and how he looks at his relationship with Thame and the future

why is Thame hereeeee, holding hands and maskless are you kidding?? leaveeee girl

I do enjoy watching/reading about consequences of celebrity life and especially idol life with all its rules. So this was fun and I feel like I don’t often get this sort of episode when I watch celeb shows even though there should be.

Saw some people on Reddit saying this is their least liked episode and just… how?? why?? This is like The Conflict that should be in many celeb/idol romances which never appear so I’m very happy to see it play out here but you don’t like it???

Ep 11: Space Oddity (Mar 18)

11-1

the thing is i know there’s a clip of Baifern finding out that Po is dating Thame at the end when they’re at a gathering so I know they aren’t gonna be exposed so i’m trying to be calm that they’re just in public

The FIRST PAK in Tpop? that’s actually insane, what is the popularity of this group and where are they in the general public zeitgeist

warning from CEO to Po

11-2

11-3

Ah, their breakup…

Somehow I was more moved by Gam during her and Pepper’s breakup than this, though usually I don’t get affected by main couple temporary breakup anyway (Love Mechanics was one where it actually did fuck me up)

Po’s promotion to Director bruh was he not a junior or smth loll

A breakup rumour gets a press conference but a Korean debut gets a surprise announcement at another person’s show?!

omgggg she was only on her Thame plan since the beginning omg bye

11-4

I just feel like the 4-member thing could have worked earlier on maybe + i don’t know why Thame doesn’t split time like doing both korea solo debut and Mars or smth (even though ofc it’d be difficult). But even the 4 member Mars and solo Thame would have worked earlier on I feel like if all this hope and dreams weren’t promised and taken away…

Thame paid off all their debt without them knowing

I get the CEO’s ruthlessness in doing what’s best for the company because that’s what ppl in this position do but I feel like she’s not going about things in a clever way so it’s hard to respect it (and not in a professional way either wtf is saying this at a random talkshow omg)

Everybody’s career progressing in Mars, like I get it

Baifern’s little speech about loving the group as they are is so… girl I don’t believe you lol not after your Pepper meltdown

unfortunately this domesticity of figuring out everything that’s running out at Po’s place and then buying it and getting it with a note that says “Let us be a part of each other’s every day life” is literally the most romantic and touching thing between them thus far. I am Obsessed with these regular things in establishes relationship storylines and just ahhhhh

Ep 12: Hey Jude (Mar 18)

12-1

why the hell i’d Earn back agh

Po, do not give that man the time of day agh

oof at least he saw through Earn at last

Oh… I also do not have a dream

Ouch, a Thame box. Is Thame really like gone to Korea? Already? We didn’t even get to see him leave.

an unread letter from Thame…

12-2

i also have no dream

Ouch, Thame had asked Po to not let go of his hand regardless of what happens

12-3

Oh okay, Thame’s not gone if he could have gone to the office rooftop lol

I was spoiled that Mick is apparently on their side and was pretending to be bad at his job or smth

i’m a bit bored of the What People Really Want bit

girl not the CEO coming to meet Po instead of Thame lol

Why is the CEO even talking to Po bruh it’s one thing to explain things to Mars but who cares about explanations to Po

Okay yeah, I expected Po getting fired bc why the hell was he telling Mick that he doesn’t want the Director position lol

12-4

It’s crazy for Mick to get Po fired from his prestigious position in order to help Mars come together as a group lmfaoo esp without consulting Po or hearing out the plan. That’s wild. I would be pissed, I’m really not made for this love shit

Uh, okay. Sure they have a plan I suppose

I like the realistic idol life conflicts, like no dating and having to breakup, or being so busy all the time no clocking out, etc. but this separation drama feels so… like Thame and Mars are also separated, they’re trying to scheme to somehow make Mars come back Again despite past failures, and Po is just A-Okay with losing his job. I don’t know what’s happening right now

Ep 13: I Say A Little Prayer (Mar 18)

Kinda wobbly ep12, hope this one is better. I know they end up going independent or smth?

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Ah, their new documentary broadcast edit. I’m nervous about how it’ll go, esp because i know they’ll have to go independent in the end

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They are all getting fired but they seem fine with that lol

I am not made from the same cloth as them fr, I’d be heaving throwing up at the thought of paying back these damages. This is why they’re following their dreams and I have none I suppose

Ah, they’re talking in the venue I hope nobody finds out? idk if that’s a worry we have to have anymore

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I don’t buy CEO Peemika being glad that it ended this way lol

Nano being a JunDylan shipper is so funny

Oh Po is just introducing Thame as his boyfriend to people okay. Also no homophobia?

So they’re just publicly dating now?

they’re so domestic how cute

A fine final episode, I don’t Love it but they didn’t fumble it either. I liked getting to see ThamePo be cute and domestic again in the end.

Overall Thoughts:

It’s a tragedy how rarely I watch GMMTV shows nowadays, so I'm happy when I find out that it perfectly fine even if I don't love it. For example, the last GMMTV show I watched was 8 eps of Perfect 10 Liners and it was bad and I shouldn't have even started it. Before that, I'd watched Cherry Magic TH in August 2024 and that was also pretty good, liked it the same as ThamePo and I'm glad I watched it after hearing good things. In June 2024, I had started watching Wandee Goodday while it's on-air but got too frustrated and stopped watching around 8 episodes in I believe, rip. And also had 23.5 and Only Friends disappointed me in May that year. I did watch The Warp Effect earlier and really like that though!

So, I've been very cautious about watching GMMTV shows, which is a disappointment because there are many that I'm curious about and want to watch. ThamePo was one such show, I Adored the pilot trailer and I love reading canonverse idol fics and love celeb/non-celeb storylines. So I was glad that ThamePo was getting good reviews, whew.

Overall, an enjoyable show and I like the relationship between Thame/Po and also Thame & Mars. I also liked getting to see my beloved celeb/non-celeb trope and also idolverse trope (though I didn't actually watch or listen to much of the songs/performances, they weren't for me). The show seemed polished in terms of direction, cinematography, styling, etc; they followed the kdrama styling that it seemed like they were aiming for.

However, I do think being so into kpop hindered my enjoyment when it strayed from like... what makes sense. I couldn't figure out how popular Mars were first of all (they're Oner's biggest money makers? but apparently not worth it to just keep 4 of them going while Thame goes to Korea? and also this was their first music show win despite being so popular? but they also achieved PAK?! a much more difficult thing? And people wouldn't care about the other 4 members but would be all up in arms about Pepper having a girlfriend? Why would Korea want to poach a member from an existing Thai boygroup instead of just getting Thai trainees? Thame is popular enough that apparently a Korean company does want him but nobody except paparazzi got pictures of Thame and Po being affectionate in public?). So, how could all of these things be true, are they popular or not and to what degree? I think they should have come up with a better reason for Thame going to Korea because the setup makes no sense. Maybe Mars could've been a really struggling group and Thame goes really viral in Korea for a kpop song cover or something and thus a company wants to poach him. Oner could have been a smaller company who would be incentivised to give up Thame because the contract looked good but not have the resources to keep a struggling group like Mars going. Then, they could've showed that Thame's virality could be translated to Mars' popularity or that he could do 50/50 Korean-Thailand or something else that makes more sense idk. Anyway, this is somewhat nitpicking and somewhat actual criticism.

Thame: I think we got to know him a lot and he wasn't a flat character to just imagine a stock love-interest onto, like we knew his personality, but I wish he was a bit more flawed? Like he's just... so kind and nice to his friends and bandmates and Po. He may have almost accidentally hurt Po in the beginning if he didn't realize his feelings, so he needed a nudge with that, but that was solved very quick! I wish all his wants weren't so... selfless? in regards to wanting the best for his Mars team members. I don't know lol I enjoyed the irritating celebrity persona he had in ep 1 and obviously that's not him, so I don't expect that to have continued, but I liked the fact that he appeared flawed in the beginning.

Actually maybe his jealousy is a flaw? But I enjoyed him being jealous of Jun and Po thoroughly, he had fun reactions but never went too far and tell Po to stop hanging out with people or anything. I wasn't into JunPo either so I think I was more receptive to Thame being annoyed by it loll

Po: I liked Po, I sympathized with him maybe feeling directionless and also feeling left behind by his ex but choosing to leave Thame when need be. I'm not super obsessed with his character but he was a fine enough lead and had depth/matched the themes of the show.

I'd be curious to see if ThamePo will have more shows. If they do, I hope it's another similarly interesting show with plot rather than getting pushed into a We Are/Perfect 10 Liners type thing.

New Trailer:

I had watched this apparently since my Youtube had the red bar, even though I don’t tend to watch trailers especially not the full trailer. I don’t remember this trailer at all and the OST is like fine yknow but this didn’t really affect me that much. Like I think the concept would have interested me if I came across this trailer first bit it specification wouldn’t have made me as excited as the Pilot

Pilot Trailer:

Such a good trailer, half thanks to I Remember as the background music and the way it was weaves into the trailer. This really made me excited for the idol verse celeb/non-celeb drama and WilliamEst had outpouring chemistry. Nothing beats the Bad Buddy pilot trailer but this one is good too.

Rating: 6.5/10

#ep by ep commentary #thamepo

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turtlesocksv2 · 1 year ago

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Liveblogging DFF episode 10

Last episode we got some past reveals, some vows to tell the truth, a spanking, and Regina George enjoying the chaos. Can't wait to see what happens next.

The shot of Tan visibly pulling himself back into character as a Person With Hinges is so good. And so funny.

I do like White being like "you told me you wouldn't be like this!" to Tee. Maybe White does know more about Tee than we think.

Tan doing the wire to get Uncle Dang is so cold. Poor Uncle Dang. Tank knocking Top the fuck out is 10/10 though.

Ok but the TanTop eye contact and manhandling at the brainwashing "Calm down. Non's not going to hurt you if you protect him." 👀

"i never would have let you all come here if I knew Tan was going to kill you all!" well maybe you should have, Phi! You lost focus! You've done pretty much jack shit to get answers for like 2 years, of course Tan resorted to a little murder. I still love you Phi but your lack of resolve disappoints me.

Jin's a judgy bitch for someone who did revenge porn on a boy he wasn't even dating. Oh, you're surprised Non had people care about him enough to go to such lengths? You don't like being manipulated? I mean, I'd be judgy too if people were trying to murder me so I get it. It's just funny.

"Actually I don't have the right to be mad at you" You really don't! but also you do just a little bit.

Cool Motive, Still Revenge Porn for a guy you weren't even dating. It'd be one thing to track Phi down and send HIM the video, if you were really actually caring about Non 'cheating'. Another beast entirely to post it online for everyone to see. though of course he was so drunk it very well could have been Tee/Top/Por/etc uploading it from a shared drive for their movie and Jin might just think he's the one who did it. But he still recorded it in the first place, for which there is no forgiveness.

Phi with the axe 👀😍

"Everything's happening just like in Non's script! Look at Top, it's like he's possessed!" "....Actually I think he's just high." Aaaaaaand White just got added to Tan's Murder List. Baby White, you have to stop. Your eyes too big. Your logic too smart. Your tripod too tough. They'll kill you.

Phi and Jin getting lost in the woods, because now that they've talked to each other they have too much information. they can't just reunite with the group or the murder party is over 2 episodes early.

so like, the Janta Cult is real, right? or at least not something Non made up for the movie. He had to have known Por's family had a mansion in that area and it gave him the idea for the movie. The shrine existing was clearly not built for the movie either. I want More Janta Cult! give me More Janta Cult! Stop giving me hints about supernatural murder cults in woods that bend and change to get you lost within them if you're not going to follow through!

god Phi wants to badly to be the Strong Protector Boyfriend Who Fixes Things.

And of course the second Phi and Jin reunite with the group, Jin immediately outs Tan. really interesting that Fluke freaks out immediately after Tan is outed as New and takes White hostage.

Oh shit, Fluke is absolutely going over that railing isn't he?

Tan's gleeful surprise when Top gets shot.

Fluke's breakdown is so good.

Oh next episode is going to be fun.

#dead friend forever #dff the series #dff

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mongdu · 1 year ago

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Quan điểm là cái thể hiện trong từng cách lựa chọn từ ngữ, cách gọi tên, xưng hô chứ không phải đợi tới lúc khẳng định tôi là/tôi thích/tôi ghét/... người ta mới biết được. Lâu lâu có vài thứ cần nói rõ thì phải nói, còn lại tốt nhất là càng hạn chế càng tốt, vì "không có gì là của bạn ngoại trừ vài centimet khối bên trong hộp sọ của bạn". Cũng đã thanh lọc bớt, tránh xa hầu hết thị phi để nhẹ đầu, nhưng giữa dòng thời cuộc thì không tránh khỏi việc khó chịu khi thấy đủ thứ nhiễu nhương.

Mùa lễ lạc cũng qua rồi. Năm đầu tiên thật sự có ngày nghỉ Tết sau rất nhiều năm dài. Có thời gian nhưng cuối cùng mình cũng vẫn không ngủ đủ giấc, và dường như là ngày có dài gấp đôi thì mình cũng nghĩ ra nhiều thứ để lấp đầy để nó không trôi qua vô nghĩa.

Năm nào mùa này, nỗi ám ảnh về thời gian và tuổi trẻ vẫn cứ lờn vờn, và mỗi ngày nó một lớn hơn. Những cột mốc trước cứ căng thẳng khi nghĩ về nó, giờ đã sát bên. Có lẽ, những điều này mới chính là động lực để mình phải liên tục nghĩ ra thứ này thứ nọ, liên tục làm nhiều thứ để tránh cảm giác tiếc nuối về sau. Nói chung thì cũng là tham làm đủ thứ, nên nhiều khi ngồi giữa một đống việc đang dang dở lại không biết phải bắt đầu từ đâu.

Bước ra khỏi mây đen, nhìn bầu trời xanh rộng lớn, đôi khi thấy tiếc một chút vì đã không lựa chọn rời khỏi sớm hơn.

Trở lại cuộc sống vốn có, những ý tưởng cũng lần lượt trở lại. Mình đỡ phải trăn trở về việc cân bằng giữa những ý tưởng bên trong suy nghĩ và cuộc sống bị khoanh tròn trong vùng giới hạn chật hẹp khi trước. Giờ quan trọng là bắt đầu làm từ đâu.

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thephidang · 2 years ago

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Maybe it's the mishaps, mistakes and melancholy that lead to the most beautiful and unexpected spiritual breakthroughs.

Growth isn't always about the gains.

It's also about the losses.

Phi Dang (@thephidang)

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thuevpsgiarervn · 1 year ago

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Lợi ích của việc sử dụng VPS miễn phí

Trước khi chọn sử dụng bất kỳ dịch vụ hoặc sản phẩm nào, đặc biệt là liên quan đến công nghệ và tích hợp vào công việc, hiếm khi có người dùng hoặc doanh nghiệp nào đưa ra quyết định ngay lập tức. Thường, họ sẽ tiến hành tìm hiểu thông tin và thử nghiệm trước. Điều này cũng áp dụng cho VPS. Vì vậy, nhiều nhà cung cấp máy chủ ảo hiện nay cung cấp phiên bản dùng thử VPS miễn phí trong một khoảng thời gian cố định. Chất lượng của những phiên bản miễn phí này phụ thuộc rất nhiều vào nhà cung cấp mà bạn lựa chọn.

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Giúp người dùng có nhiều cơ hội tìm hiểu và trải nghiệm VPS miễn phí, dẫn đến sự đa dạng về lựa chọn, thông tin và cơ hội trải nghiệm.

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respectthepetty · 1 year ago

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Second wild theory based on some thoughts and your tags that all Phee and Tan want is a confession: what if that's true? What if Phee and/or Tan gets the gun and starts an exposition drop about Non while holding the remaining boys are gunpoint and demanding answers and THEN THEY GET ATTACKED BY THE KILLER WHO IS NON'S BROTHER???

First, I need you to know that on a scale of "being completely normal about this show" to "if this show fails me, it'll be my villain origin story" that I'm currently FAR PAST the latter.

So with that being stated, I'm operating off of Wild Ass (Slasher) Theory 101 for this show aka

We've already met the killers and brother.

TLWR: Non is still alive. And it's all Dr. Sammon and Pit Babe's fault.

All the players are already on the board. We've seen all them in the first half, so now we are being reminded that we have seen them in the second half, like how the woman Keng was speaking to on the phone in episode seven about the money laundering was there in episode six.

And Perth's character was there too. (In the background in the purple/black jackets with the grey shirt)

So we've already met the brother somewhere in the first six episodes. Considering that two of those episodes were set in the past and Non would've noticed his brother, that means that we've seen the brother in the present.

We all keep stating White or Tan is Non's brother. There are some theories Perth is Non's brother, but he didn't notice him the gambling hall, and if the parents are really sending money to their gambling son then what is life?

White is my vote for final gay, and yours too. White is morally superior to the rest of the group and he is clever, which are two qualities a final girl must have. He also has a thin background story - he is dating Tee. Tan has no background story. He is simply everyone's friend who came along AFTER Non went missing; therefore, he is Non's brother.

And I think that Phi and Tan wanted the boys to confess to whatever they did to Non. Phi's dad was and perhaps still is a police chief. Tee's uncle is possibly going to jail, but wanted Non dead. Perth's character might be an uncovered reporter like the lady speaking to Keng was, and maybe, just maybe, the knowledge of what happened to Non could be of use to somebody beyond just Tan and Phi.

So scare the living shit out of the boys? Sure! Terrify the hell out of them? Of course! Maybe stab them a little bit here and there? Well, when in Rome (or the woods), do as the Romans do. Give them some hallucinogenics? Duh! Yet I don't think they intended to kill any of them (well, at least not until they got the confession).

But Por just had to run into the damn tree after seeing something in the camera.

Which caused Phi to ask Fluke how long he could keep Por alive since they planned to get that confession before the next vehicle arrived. But then Fluke cancelled their Uber.

White found the walkie-talkie that could be called for help. White found the gun that Fluke is now waving at everyone. White found the knife. White realized there was no cell phone service. White saw the tape. Pure and innocent White just keeps doing ALL the things that nobody asked him to do when WHITE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO EVEN BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

But now we have Jin seeing Mr. Keng, and Fluke spilling all the tea as he screams that "these fuckers killed someone," so Tan is going to get what he came for one way or another, even if a couple of dead bodies have to be exchanged for him to finally hear what happened three years ago to his brother?

And all of this makes sense in my head. Tan and Phi just wanted a confession. They didn't want anyone to die. However, they couldn't control every aspect of this weekend plan and shit went off the rails. Por ran into a tree. Fluke got a gun. Their Uber was cancelled. And now they have to figure out how to finish this murder mystery party when half the participants are losing their effing minds.

But then there is Uncle Dang.

And our Troublesome Trio looked genuinely shooketh when they saw what had become of him.

In Wild Ass (Slasher) Theory 101, nothing is supernatural. The killer can be everywhere because there is more than one killer, and that's why I'm praying Non is still alive.

The boys made Non the killer. Jin said since Non wrote the killer, Non would understand him better than anyone else.

Uncle Dang died first in the original film. Por was the director who took Non's writing credit. Top was the next to die before he screamed "cut!" at everyone. Fluke was probably next after that. Tee replaced Non, so it would have been Tee and Jin in the end, and Jin was the original main character and final gay as he deserted Non in the woods.

Non is finishing his movie, the way he wrote it.

And this is where my crazy really kicks in.

Phi knows.

Por, Fluke, Tee, Top, and Jin did a very bad thing to Non and ALL have seen and heard something out there in the woods.

White is Tee's boyfriend. He came around after Non went missing. He has seen a rash on his skin.

Tan is probably Non's brother. He wants a confession, but Tan saw something in the house that scared him.

Phi has seen . . . nothing. Phi has heard . . . nothing. He knew how to work the security system. He keeps giving orders. He continues to state the killer is a person.

And he'll do anything for Non.

He was very upset at Non, but he did tell Non he'd forgive him . . . if Non got lost and died.

Por, Fluke, Tee, Top, and Jin couldn't decide if Non was missing or dead, and the mafia is sending death threats and putting hits out on Non, so perhaps Non took a note from Pit Babe's Charlie and died. Or maybe he took a note from a different Tan and died (after killing his boyfriend).

Dr. Sammon, the writer behind Manner of Death, and Pit Babe's writers are the writers for Dead Friend Forever. Pit Babe is based off a novel, but in the Venn Diagram of BLs in which someone fakes his death the overlap is very slim with Chains of Heart being the third, and surprisingly, the screen writer for that series also wrote the screenplay for Dr. Sammon's Make a Wish. The world is small.

So why not disappear? Why not fake his own death?

But also, why wait three years to show back up?

Because the main threat is neutralized and awaiting jail time, but maybe, just maybe, Non hasn't been completely quiet for three years.

Mr. Keng very well might have died from the mafia. He was warned to watch out knowing how dangerous investigating them could be.

But . . . what if somebody else killed him?

Like I wrote at the beginning, I'm being crazy about this show. Wanting Non to be alive is very wishful thinking, but in my mind, if anyone is attacking these boys, I want it to be him. Tan seems pissed, but the most he has done is (intentionally) lose Top in the woods, and Phi is busy protecting Jin (because he wants to save him for last?), so they might start demanding answers in all this chaos, but if Phi's boyfriend died like Pit Babe's Charlie, don't you think he'd be like Barbie and forgive his boyfriend if he came back into his life magically? And don't you think he'd be willing to help his boyfriend get revenge on all the boys who left him for dead, especially the one who is about to leave the country forever?

Because I think he would.

But, then again, Non could actually be dead and Jin could be a good guy who I keep incorrectly blaming for everything.

Because it wouldn't be the first time Dr. Sammon killed a gay.

But it would be the first time she kept him dead.

So is this gonna be like Director Tee & Co. finally skipping out on a time jump when I needed it the most in Hidden Agenda even though that's what he is known to do, or is Dr. Sammon and the Pit Babe crew going to stick to the game plan and raise the gay from the dead?

I guess I'll have to wait and see.

#dead friend forever #dead friend forever the series #Wild Theories #I have theories for days #and they only get wilder #if he is not alive I will weep a thousand tears #do what I know you normally do #raise him from the dead

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