'this is like wanting your kid to get better by yelling at them and hitting them… you know it won't change/fix anything.'
EXACTLY I have been saying this for so long!! it's not gonna work and it's just gonna make everything worse. it's not a form of activism to just bully people until they conform to what you want; humans are autonomous people capable of choosing good, and like. we could be in the fandom of another band that doesn't even try, whose fans have given up on them and are just there for the music and the drama, but it's like the minute they do try to do something good they have to do activism a certain way and it almost becomes a kind of purity culture and purity culture is famously about control and not good for anyone.
but it's also people trying to be funny in the comments with thinly veiled frustrations that come out as insults about their appearance (which especially gets to me bc like. does body positivity stop if you're famous? or are they just idealised figures/bodies/personalities for us to look at and pretend our bodies don't change over time and we don't like it when they remind us that they actually do?) or their partners or how they express themselves. and it's the aura of entitlement that erodes their right to autonomy and individuality that gets me, not only because the way we get the creative music they make is them expressing that.
anyway i do think we as a fandom can do better and i want to attempt to start a conversation about that rather than trying to call people out in the comments. still thinking of how. there's a lot of people in the fandom who are struggling and exasperated with life and relate to their songs and the pressure has to come out somewhere; it ends up being in comments they feel like won't ever be seen except for by people who agree with them, at people who seem to far away and too big to ever see getting hurt by their comments. at least that's what I assume happens. but yes, they were bullying a cat
I agree with everything...
Was it always like this? It can't be because this is too much, none of the hate was on me and I couldn't take it, I wonder how the guys (or any celebrity) feels, being judged about the tiniest move you do, it's crazy I would totally lose my mind.
That's not how life is... yes I would love to be a fan of good people but if the gf/partner of the artist you're a fan of is bad and their friends are bad what does that make them? Maybe it's on you, maybe YOU should pick better idk 😭.
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who left who a voicemail?
yoonghee - "hello, it’s yoonghee, i received a lot of comfort from you, i want to say thank you, so i leave this message to you"
personally, i don’t think it’s seonwoo. the captions are a bit misleading because they say he’s going to cheer for seonwoo’s future right before he speaks but and i suppose it could be but i’m not convinced. he also says he wants to say sorry and express his feelings between friends which i guess could be seonwoo if yoonghee is wanting to put the feelings to bed and just be friends with him but it doesn’t sound like seonwoo to me. so who? my guess would be jeongwook. they’re definitely close and he knows jeongwook has feelings for him so that could be the sorry part? i’m honestly not sure. could also be a bit of a curveball and be for junseong because they’ve had some good talks but seems less likely to me.
final guess: jeongwook
jeongwook - "[in english] hi, see you soon, bye"
first of all, please tell me other people also thought it was hilarious that he said because there was no time limit, he had thought a lot more about it and then came out with this? but as to who? i don’t think it’s yoonghee. i think he’s trying to go down a different path because he understands yoonghee is not interested in him like that. this is also an incredibly awkward and cute message which seems more like something you’d say to someone new? but who? maybe hyeongjoon, they seem to have a lot in common and enjoyed their date. honestly this one i really have no idea about.
final guess: hyeongjoon
hyeongjin - "don’t pine over others, play with me, i’ll wait for you, good night"
to preface this message he said ‘i need to push him’ and this is a pretty bold message, like this boy has guts. the obvious one would be minseong because of the whole love triangle thing but i’m honestly not sure that it is. my first instinct was that it was seonwoo because of some other stuff hyeongjin said this episode. but he first said he had three guys he was interested in, which i think are minseong, seonwoo and yoonghee but that he was now interested in a fourth which came out in the jenga game. i could be totally wrong but i think it might be junseong. now junseong is definitely pining and everyone knows that, yoonghee is also pining and a case could be made for seonwoo pining for seongho but i’m less convinced by that but i see how if you were in the house you would think that. minseong isn’t exactly pining but i guess it fits into the love triangle thing. so yeah this one i’m very curious about, hyeongjin is a bit of a wild card i think.
final guess: seonwoo
seonwoo - "seongho, it’s seonwoo, when i first met you, i never thought i’d leave you a message, but then we met, i wanted to know more about you, that alone made me think it’s something special, so thank you, bye"
okay we know this one, it’s seongho
answer: seongho
junseong - "hello seongho, i can't see anyone else except you, i'm sure i'll keep liking you, see you inside, over"
i mean we knew this one before he even went in the box didn't we, it's seongho
answer: seongho
seongho - "i want to say this to you, so i sent this voice message, see you later"
okay at this point i'll admit that i'm very biased and deperately want to believe that he's left this for junseong. so i'm not sure if i'm just making things fit the way i want them too or if it's actually the case. the two possibilities are seonwoo and junseong, unless seongho really wants to throw in a curveball obviously. personally, i don't think it's seonwoo because seongho was a bit annoyed and confused with him leading up to this and if it was seonwoo i feel like some of that would have come out? he would have mentioned it, a bit like hyeongjoon later does to minseong. this message is simple and sweet and echoes junseong's 'see you inside' with 'see you later', they're very much on the same wavelength i feel. also he says before he goes in that he's fifty-fifty but he has already made his feelings to seonwoo very clear and therefore maybe he wants to even that out by leaving junseong a message as well, so that he knows that he is interested. ugh. this one has been hauting me and i'm so scared i'm going to be disappointed but every time i think about it i just can't picture it being something he'd say to seonwoo whereas it's absolutely something he'd say to junseong. but what do i know.
final guess: junseong
hyeongjoon - "minseong-ah, you gave me the cookies but you turned to someone else, what's going on with you? you have to explain it, you know"
we know this one too, it's minseong
answer: minseong
minseong - "hyeong, i don't know who you like, i'm curious about this, so i leave you this message, i'm just a little curious, guess who i am"
yahhh i'm kind of mad at him because of this one but, it's hyeongjin. which fair enough, he does say he has to satisfy his curiousity because i think he knows that if he calls hyeongjoon it will be reciprocated and he might never get the chance to figure out what he feels for hyeongjin but. but. after the effort hyeongjoon went through to make sure minseong understood his feeling when it was clearly something that didn't come naturally or comfortably this definitely stung. because yah, minseong-ah you really do need to explain yourself to him.
answer: hyeongjin
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