#punz lore

[bleue-flora]

Ok, so can we talk about Punz for a second? Because like when I rewatched that stream the other day, not only did I notice that it was Punz who avenged Dream by killing Tommy and returning all of his stuff, after Sapnap and Tommy had ambushed Dream and refused to return it [details] (making him truly the mvp, who really doesn’t get enough credit). But I also noticed some other fun things.

Specially this.

And this.

Tommy punches Dream -> immediately killed by Punz [clip].

Like okay maybe we could make the point that Dream pays him to kill Tommy and reclaim all of his stuff [clip], but pretty sure Dream isn’t paying him to be so protective.

[bakuvex]

Season 2 c!drunz!

[possiblyawesometmblr]

i genuinely really love c!dream apologists. y'all fascinate me. just saw a post about how cute it was that punz and dream went and got sandwiches together and i just. imagine if your takeaway from everything that happened today was that two psychopaths getting sandwiches while they wait for their two torture victims to choose which one of them has to die was adorable. this is not /neg in literally any way i am so /pos right now. what is going on in those funky little minds of yours you are so intriguing

[andhyssops]

should've paid him more :/

[bubble-popping]

In case anyone was wondering, my c!Punz hc's are about as unhinged as they come. Like, him being a wolf hybrid is intrinsically linked with his sense of self and direction in life. My hc backstory for them is quite fucked up but mostly it provides the reasoning why he jumps at this immediately defensive and protective role for c!Dream and why he's so adamant to stick by his side.

(gist of their backstory in pretty much every dsmp au I have unless otherwise stated is that after running away from home they're picked up by a man he only ever knows as his Handler who trains them and puts them in hybrid fighting rings. He's rescued by c!bbh who raises them alongside c!Sapnap and Dream on the MunchyMC server. they start mercenary work pretty early, so there's some distance between them and the rest of the og8 at the start of the dsmp but they never forget their true loyalties.)

Taking orders is all they know. It's the constant they can count on, and they need it like they need air. He can't handle not having direction. He's whoever people need him to be, so they mostly maintain a stoicism. (overt emotion has only ever gotten them hurt)

When Dream says he needs someone to count on, they almost don't ask for the money. Dream insists, says the partnership needs to look as business casual as possible.

But he can't help some of his hybrid tendencies. They can't help rushing to defend him even when the threat is gone. He can't help the overwhelming urge to open his jaws and clamp them down on anyone that dares turn a blade against him. It takes so much to hold back during the staged finale. They have to close their eyes and turn away. (or else everyone would see them change to a bloodthirsty red)

It's why, as heart-wrenching at it is, they're able to sit and wait for Dream to return without visiting and blowing the cover. It's why the whispers of the Egg don't take long to convince them.

But in the end Dream was always who he was devoted to. The Egg didn't pat his head and praise him for a job well done. Everything it promised was nothing compared to what they could have with Dream. The Egg didn't provide the direct orders he needed.

[unknowntoman]

Two years.

It's been two whole years.

(This day can not get worse)

Do yall miss when the lore was "active"? When the SMP still existed? You know, the SMP golden days. So many of us in lockdown and the fandom was actually not that horrible. I miss it a lot.

[cellberry]

So I heard the news...

Then I heard the rest of the news...

But no matter what, that final life kill will always belong...

to C MOTHERFUCKING EXCLAMATION POINT TUBBO!!!!!!

[saudrag]

something about c!drunz being husbands

[yaynotgaybutbi]

"This world is fucked up, everyone hates each other,

THERE IS AN EGG!"

c!Dream sort your priorities out, mf

[kritzy]

Taking off unnecessary bandages now that he's revived...

[bleue-flora]

What's often interesting to me, is Dream spells it out in the finale and people often still don't get it, so I thought it'd be interesting to see what he was actually referencing here. To see where it all started.

[24:27] Tommy: “That first war, me and Tubbo versus you–how it should have ended–why’d you take it?” Dream: “Tommy, you ambushed me and killed me. You stole all my shit! You tried ambushing me in a little cave–you don’t remember that? I feel like you just–your memory is just–gone.”

So here is the ambush Dream is talking about, where Sapnap and Tommy basically decide to just kill Dream and then kept all of his shit. [Death 1]

He gets killed again when he tries to take back his stuff. [Death 2]

Tommy kills him for fun right after he respawns with nothing. [Death 3]

Then after Dream gets his stuff back (via our boy Punz) and he takes the discs to get Tommy to stop, he gives Tommy back his items. But unsatisfied, Tommy goes after Dream, gets one of his discs back and hides it in the little cave. Dream tries to find it, while Sapnap and Tommy try to stop him. They are unsuccessful until, Tubbo brings them axes and they sneak up and corner Dream in the little cave, ambushing and killing him. Once again, taking all of his shit, (including, yes, the other disc.) [Death 4]

[27:58] Tommy: “Think about that, we could’ve been friends but no because you have to figure out the reason you have to get–”  Dream: “Yeah we could’ve but you–you ruined the chance of that long ago. It was you.” Tommy: “I ruined it?” Dream: “You ruined it!”

And I don’t think it’s unfair for Dream to say that in the finale, because for Dream it’s this stream early on, these moments that started it all. It’s these instances of of Dream getting murdered and robbed and made fun of over and over. Him, trying to not just make peace for everyone, but also reclaim respect and peace for himself. It’s Tommy chasing after Dream when he has nothing to kill him and rub it in his face. It’s Dream, even after all of that, giving back their items. It’s these instances of violence taken too far to the point they clearly pissed Dream off and didn’t care or follow his very simple request of just giving an apology and his belongings back that shape my distaste for Tommy and sympathy for Dream. It’s these moments that I feel like are gone from Tommy’s and our memory that highlight a different story.

[28:34] Dream: “Yeah, we could have been friends if you weren’t a little shit.”

[bakuvex]

First goes kisses after they can go chopping some teens

[lululablette]

My piece for the DsmpComicsZine ^^

Sneaky Punz doing a little crime (cat behavior)

Find the Comics Zine HERE

[katsco]

I think a lot of people are taking C!Tommy hearing C!dream out and accepting his reasonings as forgiveness.

In no way was that what it was. C!tommy didn’t forgive C!dream he just simply listened to him and realised that they both had the same motive.

They both wanted peace on the server and to go back to how it all used to be unfortunately C!dream let the idea of power get to his head and let it control him.

C!dream is still a bad person, he openly admitted to torturing C!tommy and not seeing a problem with it because in his eyes C!tommy was the reason for the lack of peace.

Juts like how I’m C!tommys eyes C!dream was the reason for the lack of peace on the server. They both had their motives and they both went about it different ways but in the end the goal was the same.

C!tommy hearing C!dream out and allowing him to explain isnt forgiveness it’s more of a realisation of everything from the last 2 years and how maybe everything could have stayed the same if maybe they just spoke to each other rather than instantly going to fighting.

And C!tommys little sorry at the end wasn’t an apology for the past more of an apology for what was about to happen. C!tommy had just remembered about the nuke, being so caught up with limbo and C!Dreams explanation that he forgot.

Then the alarms go off and that’s when he remembers. C!tommy had signed them up for their death and there was no escape.

Just after they both realised that maybe they can still get peace on the server, maybe they can start to go back to how it all once was and start to heal, the nuke arrives and all hope is lost.

They’re going to die in this prison, hell on earth for both C!tommy and C!dream. Where they both got tortured and where they both lost a final cannon life (C!tommy twice) and it’s all because C!tommy sealed their fate way before by asking C!tubbo to set off the nuke.

That’s what the sorry was for. Apologising for what was about to happen, for sealing their fate, for essentially getting rid of any and all hope they may have had. Not a sorry for his past and definitely not forgiveness for C!dreams actions.

At the end of the day C!dream is still not a good person and C!tommy knows this but that little bit of hope that maybe they could begin to heal and maybe he could be happy with his friends once again and live in peace was all he needed to not want C!Dream dead for good.

[the-final-sif]

I'll be honest, my biggest Lore Thought is I'm not convinced c!Dream 100% actually died for the final time. Like, I do think it's more likely than not. But like. Past rules are you revive where you died. The hell was Dream doin' at c!Punz' house so quick. Also where was gream.

"wait but why would staged duo do this?"

Well if c!Dream is immortal in some fashion but doesn't want to reveal that he is, he'd need to fake his own death whenever he used up his last canon life. Then poke Punz into reviving him so he has an excuse to be "alive"

"do you really think that staged duo would do all of this just to trick clingyduo?"

*wild gesturing at why we call these motherfuckers staged duo*

[patchesjam]

undefined

Punz: They were spamming my name? I was watching, they brought up my name when I saved them. I’m a great person. Wink...