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It continues to shock me how much the Snaters really don't know the canon.
First, Lily never rejected Severus the two of them have been best friends for years. The one pestering Lily to go out with him was James.
Second, the scene where Snape goes to Godric's Hollow doesn't exist in the book, it's just an addition in the movie to make everything more dramatic. (If we want to consider movie scenes canon then most of the accusations made don't exist since they don't happen. These people are really too confused) And then what? Or if we take the scene from the film at face value, Snape hugs the woman he loves instead of helping Harry, so what? This poor man was destroyed, can we leave him alone for two seconds to cry?
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I've discussed this point many times, but it's never enough, the Marauders Stan are pretending not to understand the difference between saving a life and preventing a person from being hurt/killed because of your actions and those of a friend. In the case of the prank there is a responsibility, certainly Sirius's, while James is everyone's interpreter, but even if he were external this wouldn't be his redemption.
Preventing a friend from dying because of your best friend doesn't redeem you, it's just the minimum to be a decent person.
(or if you really think that James was a hero for this and that he deserves a medal then I want one too, because yesterday I slowed down while a guy was crossing outside the crosswalk, I mean I didn't hit him with my car, where is my prize?)
Plus redemption means having understood one's mistakes and trying to fix them, while here James hasn't understood anything at all.
The Prank happens before the OWLS, so in their 5th year, this means that after James "saved" Snape he redeemed himself so much that he attacked him just out of boredom, he knocked him to the ground several times, he suffocated him with soap and then he SA Snape... Where would be the redemption in this?
JAMES POTTER'S REDEMPTION???
Scrolling through Tiktok and the algorithm decided to give me a video about "the prank". And in the comment section, I see Marauders fan trying to defend the Marauders. It was okay, until I see them say
"James saving Snape's life is his redemption?"
I mean, EXCUSE ME???
You say 'saving his life', as in James Potter cleaning up his own mess. Said mess being HIM and his gang baited Severus Snape into the same room with a literal werewolf that could kill him???
And by realising how stupid it is, by pulling Snape out of the situation that HE created, he REDEEMED for pushing Snape into it in the first place?
Oh wow? Is that what redemption means now?
And in a way, it's not similar to "Saving his life" as Dumbledore nobly put it. James Potter knew how dangerous Remus Lupin was, and yes, even if he saved Snape in the end, he still owed Snape more than an apology, for all the things he had done.
Furthermore, they also said "Remus was too scare to mention it" or "He was traumatise too", "He regretted it later", etc.
Okay, let just assume that he remembered, let assume that at the time, he was too scare of being expell to face Snape.
How about in Harry's third year? How about that?
Did he, canonically, apologise? Or did he just take Snape's potion, say a thank, and then act all friendly?
There is just so many things wrong, and the ways they were defended ridiculously underwhelmed the trauma and the risk they had put a schoolmate through, as well as how light they treated it later.
And don't even get me started on that blasted fanfiction that they all prayed to everynight. It's blasphemed.
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New day, new discussion with a Snater who twists the canon to justify bullying Snape
The other day I commented on a Tiktok video listing James' good deeds (with fanon additions, as usual) to say that James was a good person and didn't deserve to die, I wrote this comment
Obviously I expected someone to reply, but some real gems came out xD
So follow the reasoning, because it's funny.
First let's discuss whether James has matured or not, that's fine, it's a matter of interpretation from the little we know from the canon but then we get to the point, Snape was a special case, he responded to James' attacks after seven years of bullying.
So according to this person if a victim of bullying responds then he is no longer a victim. Clear, right? If someone attacks you you just have to suffer and maybe even in silence. Realizing that the thing doesn't hold up he goes to the classic "But it wasn't bullying, they were rivals" But when I say that 2 vs 1 is not equal and cannot be rivalry then he changes again by putting in the field guess what?
ASSUMPTIONS
Death Eaters SA Mary. False, we don't know what Mulciber TRIED to do to Mary. In the fandom this Headcanon is very popular but it is indeed a Headcanon. But then what does what Mulciber tried to do have to do with the fact that Snape was bullied? Was James responding to something Mulciber tried to do by taking it out on Snape who had done nothing? This doesn't make any sense at all
And then of course we only see Snape's point of view so it could be different, maybe he wasn't the victim. Really? The Snaters don't know the canon. Memories are OBJECTIVE, we see the facts as they happened, the thoughts and feelings are Harry's watching.
Then strangely he didn't bring up the point "Snape cursed Muggle-borns" I hope this person has come to his senses and realized he said something non-canonical
Ma preparati perchè ora ridiamo:
"It wasn't always 2 vs 1" most of the time Snape was with Death Eaters gang.
WHERE? But when? This is another assumption, if Snape had been with others who defended him then James and Sirius would not have attacked him (because they are cowards)
But at least he admitted that Snape was the victim in this episode. So why continue, he admitted it, stop, and instead in order to blame the victim he puts forward other ASSUMPTIONS, Snape created the Sectumpsempra, so what? To curse James? We don't know why he created it (which I then wrote to him) But hey Sirius admitted that they were idiots BUT they bullied Snape (Another admission, they BULLIED SNAPE) because he was a racist. But this is also false
So it's never said that James never attacked Mulciber and others, so it could have happened? But of course, it's never said that Hermione isn't actually The Rock with a wig so she could be. But do they really do that?? Plus they wouldn't have attacked Malfoy because he was older? So they only picked on the weakest, just like real bullies
James and Sirius as the twins? Well on this point I have a lot to say, I know I've been saying it for months but I'll soon publish a chapter dedicated to this. Let's say that if the Twins had been Slytherins everyone would have called them bullies, so this similarity does not go in favor of the Snaters. But here comes a pearl
"Snape was attacking muggleborns"
Snape attacked muggle-borns? Dude, have you ever read the books? When, for Morgana's sake, would this have happened?
Let's see what he'll answer.
(and then he also brought up the fact that Snape was to blame for the attack on the Potters and that he only asked for mercy for Lily, but now this point is so stupid that I have an automatic answer)
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Just some basic proofs Voldemort didn't love Bellatrix. Quotes with context, since clearly reading comprehension is on vacation in your corner.
first off. Azkaban, the moment Bellatrix proves she’s ride or die:
“The Dark Lord will rise again, Crouch! Throw us into Azkaban; we will wait!”
GoF Ch 30
this girl went full insane stan mode, proudly going to wizard jail FOR HIM. and what did voldemort say about her and the others?
> “It was a grave disappointment to me… I was not aware that I had such faithful friends….”
GoF Ch 33
literally lies to the entire room like he forgot her name. “I wasn’t aware”? she was literally yelling about you. and you know what’s even better? he never even tries to get her out. he only breaks into azkaban when he needs them. not because he misses them. not because he loves her. because he’s rebuilding his army. period.
fast forward to Half-Blood Prince, where bellatrix is still desperate for his love and approval, and Snape calls her out:
> “You do not want to go to the Dark Lord with the truth. You want to go with a lie. You want to go back to him and say that you lied to me, that you have spied on me for over a year.”
HBP Ch 2
even snape sees her obsession. she’s jealous, insecure, obsessed with being his favorite. voldemort? not even acknowledging that.
then we get to Deathly Hallows, the supposed “look how he cares for her” book. and what does he do?
> “No higher pleasure… than to have such a student. Tell me, Draco, why are you not in your school uniform? Are you not proud of your place at my side?”
DH Ch 1
this is in malfoy manor, with bellatrix right there. he’s flirting more with draco than ever giving bellatrix a crumb of attention. her literal obsession is met with silence. not even a "thank you, queen."
oh, and about the pregnancy you cling to from Cursed Child, that fanfic-tier play has zero emotional content from him. there’s no scene of affection. no tenderness. we don't even get a quote. she gives birth, dies offscreen, and he never mentions the child. what kind of lover acts like that? oh wait, that’s right. the kind who never gave a single fuck.
now for the grand finale, her death:
> “Molly’s curse soared beneath Bellatrix’s outstretched arm and hit her squarely in the chest, directly over her heart. Bellatrix’s gloating smile froze, her eyes seemed to bulge: for the tiniest space of time she knew what had happened, and then she toppled, and the watching crowd roared…”
DH Ch 36
how does voldemort react?
> “With a scream of fury that no one had ever heard from him before, he pointed Bellatrix’s wand at Molly Weasley…”
not sadness. not despair. just rage. RAGE because someone beat him. because someone beat his best duelist. not because he lost someone he loved. the text doesn’t say “he looked at her fallen body.” he doesn’t hold her. he doesn’t say her name. he moves on like she was just another tool, and that’s what she unfortunately was. the favorite weapon. not the secret wife.
meanwhile, when harry “dies”? voldemort loses it. shaking. unhinged. wand slipping. like. he fully spirals.
so yeah, if you still wanna ship bellamort? be my guest. just don’t try to pass it off as canon. it’s delusion, plain and simple. the books make it painfully obvious: she loved him. he never loved anyone.
There's no point in crying I'm an anon, since you just block us the second you're out of arguments. Now you actually have to sit with people simply enjoying their free will.
🐺
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Petunia and Severus are not on the same level, Snape actively saved Harry's life many times, he didn't just keep him in school but protected him from Voldemort himself, he risked his life for years.
Oh yes and then something small, but it is thanks to Snape that the magical world is saved and for those who know the saga well know that it is only thanks to Severus that there is a chosen one who can defeat Voldemort.
There you go.
Sn*pe protected Harry as much as Petunia did, but I don't see Harry naming a kid after his aunt.
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deathly hallows book moments
warning: this one’s a rollercoaster ride of emotions, read at your own risk.
‘the idea of a teenage dumbledore was simply odd, like trying to imagine a stupid hermione or a friendly blast-ended skrewt.’
“i don’t think you’re a waste of space.”
‘he felt like asking them to show a little more respect for his privacy as they all began stripping off with impunity, clearly much more at ease with displaying his body than they would have been with their own.’
ron: why do i have to clean my room? mrs weasley: !!! WEDDING !!! ron: theyre not getting married in my damn bedroom
“we’re coming with you. that was decided months ago—years, really.”
“if i picked up a sword right now, ron, and ran you through with it, i wouldn’t damage your soul at all.” “which would be a real comfort to me, i’m sure”
harry waking up on his birthday forgetting he was 17
“accio glasses!” although they were only around a foot away, there was something immensely satisfying about seeing them zoom towards him, at least until they poked him in the eye.
ron giving harry a book called twelve fail-safe ways to charm witches for his birthday
“i’ve learned a lot. you’d be surprised, it’s not all about wandwork, either.”
‘the rest of her speech was lost; harry had got up and hugged her. he tried to put a lot of unsaid things into the hug and perhaps she understood them’
“are you planning to follow a career in magical law, miss granger?” “no i’m not, i’m hoping to do some good in the world!”
“it’s time you learned some respect!” “it’s time you earned it”
hermione: when we were little we heard stories like snow white and cinderella ron: what’s that, an illness? harry: rip me i never got read any stories
“a brutal triple murder by the bridegroom’s mother might put a bit of a damper on the wedding.”
“merlin’s beard, what is xenophilius lovegood wearing? he looks like an omelette.” excuse me why wasn’t auntie muriel like this in the film
“he used to down an entire bottle of firewhisky, then run on to the dance floor, hoist up his robes and start pulling bunches of flowers out of his—” “yes, he sounds a real charmer”
harry suggesting that xenophilius lovegood’s deathly hallows necklace is the cross-section of the head of a crumple-horned snorkack
“vot is the point of being an international quidditch player if all the good-looking girls are taken?”
‘harry heard her mutter a suggestion as to where ron could stick his wand instead.’
harry reading lily’s letter and noticing that they wrote their g’s the same way as each other, i’m sobbing
‘the letter was an incredible treasure, proof that lily potter had lived, really lived’
KREACHER’S GODDAMN TALE
kreacher hitting mundungus over the head with a saucepan “perhaps just one more, master harry, for luck?”
“if anyone shouldn’t go, it’s harry, he’s got a ten thousand galleon price on his head—” “fine, i’ll stay here, let me know if you ever defeat voldemort, won’t you?”
‘with a twinge of regret that had nothing to do with food, harry imagined the house-elf busying himself over the steak and kidney pie that harry, ron and hermione would never eat.’
‘not knowing or caring that their living son stood so near, his heart still beating, alive because of their sacrifice and close to wishing, at this moment, that he was sleeping under the snow with them.’
the sign outside the wreckage of the potters’ house, covered with messages left for harry
the child who had the nerve to say “nice costume, mister!” to mr tom riddle the dark lord voldemort, what an icon
“after you left, she cried for a week. probably longer, only she didn’t want me to see. there were loads of nights when we never even spoke to each other. with you gone… she’s like my sister, i love her like a sister and i reckon she feels the same way about me. it’s always been like that. i thought you knew.”
“you’ve sort of made up for it tonight, getting the sword. finishing off the horcrux. saving my life.” “that makes me sound a lot cooler than i was” “stuff like that always sounds cooler than it really was, i’ve been trying to tell you that for years.”
ron single-handedly fighting off five snatchers by telling them he was stan shunpike
“he must’ve known i’d run out on you.” “no, he must’ve known you’d always want to come back.”
“i just think it’s a bit spookier if it’s midnight!” “yeah, because we really need a bit more fear in our lives”
“death’s got an invisibility cloak?” “so he can sneak up on people, sometimes he gets bored of running at them, flapping his arms and shrieking…”
luna decorating her bedroom ceiling with paintings of her friends (i’m not crying, you are)
POTTERWATCH
“we’re all human, aren’t we? every human life is worth the same, and worth saving.”
“i’d tell him we’re all with him in spirit, and i’d tell him to follow his instincts, which are good and nearly always right.”
hagrid throwing a ‘support harry potter’ party
“the fact remains he can move faster than severus snape confronted with shampoo when he wants to”
“no! you can have me, keep me!” this book went from making me smile to shattering my heart in around three pages
‘hermione was screaming again: the sound went through harry like physical pain.’
ron’s ‘passable imitation of wormtail’s wheezy voice’
“so young, to be fighting so many.”
‘ron said, “blimey, a baby!” as if he had never heard of such a thing before.’
‘he seemed set on course to become just as reckless a godfather to teddy lupin as sirius black had been to him.’
“he was never free, never, the night that your brother died he drank a potion that drove him out of his mind. he started screaming, pleading with someone who wasn’t there… it was torture to him, if you’d seen him then, you wouldn’t say he was free.”
“i’m going to keep going until i succeed—or i die. don’t think i don’t know how this might end. i’ve known it for years.”
“i got this one for asking her how much muggle blood she and her brother have got.” “blimey, neville, there’s a time and a place for getting a smart mouth.”
“yeah, well, food’s one of the five exceptions to gamp’s law of elemental transfiguration,” said ron, to general astonishment.
“why would harry potter try to get inside ravenclaw tower? potter belongs in my house!”
‘harry heard a little strain of pride in her voice, and affection for minerva mcgonagall gushed up inside him.’
harry using the cruciatus curse on amycus in front of mcgonagall because “he spat at you”
mcgonagall dueling snape and sending a swarm of daggers at him
“where’s professor snape?” “he has, to use the common phrase, done a bunk” minerva i love you
neville throwing mandrakes over the walls
“is this the moment? OI! there’s a war going on here!” “i know, mate, so it’s now or never, isn’t it?”
‘and percy was shaking his brother, and ron was kneeling beside them, and fred’s eyes stared without seeing, the ghost of his last laugh still etched upon his face.’
‘a herd of galloping desks thundered past, shepherded by a sprinting professor mcgonagall.’
harry stunned the death eater as they passed: malfoy looked around, beaming, for his saviour, and ron punched him from under the cloak. “and that’s the second time we’ve saved your life tonight, you two-faced bastard!”
trelawney using crystal balls to knock out death eaters ‘with a movement like a tennis serve’
“are you a wizard, or what?”
“you must kill me.” “would you like me to do it now? or would you like a few moments to compose an epitaph?”
‘this cold-blooded walk to his own destruction would require a different kind of bravery.’
‘he was tiny in death.’
‘he felt he would have given all the time remaining to him for just one last look at them; but then, would he ever have had the strength to stop looking?’
“we’re all going to keep fighting, harry. you know that?”
“i am sorry too, sorry i will never know him… but he will know why i died and i hope he will understand. i was trying to make a world in which he could live a happier life.”
“until the very end”
“this is, as they say, your party.” harry had no idea what this meant; dumbledore was being infuriating.
“it is a curious thing, harry, but perhaps those who are best suited to power are those who have never sought it.”
“do not pity the dead, harry. pity the living, and, above all, those who live without love.”
“of course it is happening inside your head, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?”
‘the scream was the more terrible because he had never expected or dreamed that professor mcgonagall could make such a sound.’
ron breaking voldemort’s silencing charm “he beat you!”
“i’ll join you when hell freezes over, dumbledore’s army!”
harry calling voldemort tom riddle like “yes, i dare”
‘tom riddle hit the floor with a mundane finality, his body feeble and shrunken’ where please, movies?
‘mcgonagall had replaced the house tables, but nobody was sitting according to house anymore’
peeves’ song voldy’s gone mouldy
‘tears were sliding down from behind the half-moon spectacles into the long silver beard, and the pride and the gratitude emanating from him filled harry with the same balm as phoenix song.’
harry FIXING HIS DAMN WAND
“i’ve had enough trouble for a lifetime.”
“if you’re not in gryffindor, we’ll disinherit you, but no pressure.”
albus complaining that everyone is staring and ron being like “it’s me. i’m extremely famous.”
‘the scar had not pained harry for nineteen years. all was well.’
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OMG This is so Byron White coded 🤣🤣
(Looking at a list of Order members names)
Y/N; “Wait, for real? (looks at Sirius) Sirius Orion Black? Your initials are S.O.B? So you’re a son of a bitch by name and by nature.”
Severus; (chokes on his drink)
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JAMES WAS NOT A VIGILANTE
I think Marauders Stan will never understand this point (or probably don't want to understand)
James was a bully in canon, whatever "good deeds" he did for his friends doesn't erase his guilt.
Oh yeah Voldemort is a racist mass murderer but hey, he comforted Ginny when she was 11 so he wasn't a bad guy. (Obviously I'm exaggerating but you get the idea)
Also stop, really stop making James and Sirius look like vigilantes who picked on those who supported Voldemort, first of all because it's not true, they bullied people out of boredom. They started picking on Severus when he was 11, already on the train, when they didn't know him yet, they started calling him Snivellus, they tripped him up before they knew him.
Bertram Aubery wasn't a future Death Eater, they swelled his head with an illegal spell.
If they really wanted to take on the future Death Eaters out of a twisted sense of justice they should have attacked people like Malfoy, Mulciber or Avery, instead the two cowards only took it out on the weakest (real Gryffindors)
But then even if it were true AND it is NOT, let's pretend, then you want to tell me that you justify bullying if the victim is a bad person? So it goes based on the bully, you can mistreat, attack, try to kill and SA someone because they are not a good person? This mentality is scary and dangerous. Grow up
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Harry potter for that ask thing! (But also go to sleep!!!)
HOW DO YOU KNOW I SHOULD BE SLEEPING FIRST ANGEL but also it’s fine i don’t have uni tomorrow because it’s a public holiday in australia tomorrow WHOOP
okay so this is a popular demand (two asks makes it popular thats the rules) IM EXCITED THANK YOU ANGELS
my favorite female character: Luna Lovegood (okay i love hermione too but LUNA!!!!! am i right??? and mcgonagall is my GORL god hard this is hard
My favorite male character: oh this is hard. no this is hard. okay it’s harry but it’s also fred and george and it’s also ron and it’s also- okay i’ll stop i’ll stop
my favorite book/season/etc: HMMM book 4 because it has mermaids and the tournament is really fun and i couldn’t live until i finished it immediately and the different schools were so cool to see and we had some normal teen romance drama and it was nice to let them be normal dumbass teenagers for a second before cedric dies and ruins harry’s happiness for a long bloody time after that. i also love book 5 tho because of the angst and it made me cry the most i think. and we finally get answers to questions and it has one of my fave scenes. so yeah two faves there
my favorite cast member: oh wow um this is hard because i don’t think i know any of them well enough, a part from emma watson being cool and oh my god daniel radcliffe is HILARIOUS have ya’ll seen that gifset of him being like “i was a woman in a past life” and theres just all these old pics of ppl who look just like him?? idk why but i love it and he’s in one of my fave movies swiss army man so i guess daniel. But also i hear the guy who plays lucius is awesome so him too and OH shout out to the woman who plays proffessor sprout because i saw her in a play live in 2014 but this was before i ever gave a damn about hp so i didn’t appreciate her as much as i do now. OH AND I JUST GOOGLED AND SHE’S A LESBIAN WHO CALLED HERSELF A DYKE ON LIVE TV IN FRONT OF JULIE GILLARD WHILE SHE WAS PRIME MINISTER OF AUSTRALIA like wow what a legend i stan her now. forget everything else i said, she’s my fave.
my favorite ship: oh yeah totally draco and harry who am i kidding
a character I’d die defending: Ron Weasley. one of the most devastating things i’ve learnt since entering the fandom is that,,,,,some people,,,,,don’t like ron??? AND I DON’T GET IT AND IT MAKES ME MAD i fucking love that boy and i will defend him always not to mention harry loves him OH speaking of harry i’ll die defending him too because i’ve also seen people say he’s arrogant and selfish and all i can say is that’s the worst read i have ever heard and you sound like snape. TEA
a character I just can’t sympathize with: ooooh quirrell and lockhart. i don’t think i’ve sympathised with them once in my life. and umbridge. they all suck i don’t even know if there is anything to sympathise with. and barty crouch. both of them senior and junior
a character I grew to love: oh 100% sirius. i hated him because i thought he was coming to kill harry and i was so PISSED about it but then he was MY EVERYTHING <3 family <3
my anti otp: basically everything canon except for ron and hermione and bill and fleur sajhhsjhjsahjas like tonks and remus? no! ginny and harry? SINCE WHEN like no no NO like tonks is a lesbian can we not
send me a fandom to answer these questions about!!! pls
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i finished ootp so here are my notes/modifications/headcanons etc etc. long post ahead so be warned lmao!
molly’s stress. harry noticed it as soon as he saw her. she still has the strength to give a rib cracking hug to harry of course, as she always does when she sees him. but the stress of everything, the worry she feels about the impending doom they’re all facing, the fact that she keeps thinking about her family dying has caused so much stress that she doesn’t eat nearly as much as she used to. she’s grown thinner due to the stress and it’s just really sad.
the twins and their inventions are still driving molly up the wall. the orders meetings are secret, not meant for the children to hear and so when she discovered the extendable ears, she probably lost it. she’s already highly stressed out and snappy because she has to be in constant quarters with sirius whom, at this point in time, she does not like. she gets a headache often too and so that was a kind of final straw sort of thing for her. just got real pissed at the twins.
not only is she stressed about the war and possibly losing everyone she loves, but she’s in a terrible state because of the fight that arthur and percy had. she loves both very much, and knowing that percy wants nothing to do with them really stings. all she wants is for him to be there with them, she feels incomplete without percy around and she’s often crying at the mere mention of her son.
molly loves tonks, but a lot of the time she’s really annoyed at how clumsy she is. again, it’s nothing really against tonks or anyone in particular, it’s just she’s dealing with a lot right now and the little things set her off.
molly hates mundungus because she doesn’t like how shifty he is. she really doesn’t trust him at all. and she never will tbh.
the twins deciding to use magic to “help” only to make a mess. molly has just had it. she’s done. with everything. it’s unfortunate that the twins often get the wrath but they push her buttons quite often so can she really be blamed?
molly hates that no one backed her up at the meeting. she only wants to protect harry and her own children, she doesn’t want them hearing the dangers, but even arthur wouldn’t back her up which ended up putting her in an even worse mood than she already was. really, in grimmauld place she’s pretty much always pissed off because of how stressful she finds the household to be.
molly and sirius are cousins by marriage. honestly i love that.
i think that molly is very insistent on cleaning the place because it offers a distraction. she can focus on the cleaning instead of focusing on her fears which are growing ever more present the closer they get to the school year.
molly wearing a purple quilted nightgown is the cutest thing okay. not really relevant, just cute.
molly being the typical mom to harry was fussing over him before the hearing. trying to brush his hair and make him look good was an aesthetic.
“molly gets her own chapter title” was literally a note i made.
arthur just going “i work here” like a straight savage. he’s learning from his wife.
“he got off! he got off!” “SHUT UP!!!” i stan one angry legend. also something i wrote in my notes.
when ron made prefect she hugged and kissed him a bunch of times and probably embarrassed the crap out of him. which she also would’ve done to bill and charlie and percy too with their achievements.
if you wanna see my in depth note about the boggart scene click here
i can’t believe the boys made ginny fall down the stairs. and molly was not happy about it in the slightest, so she was just in a very bad mood escorting harry to the platform. even more so because sirius decided to tag along.
molly definitely never approves of sirius trying to leave the house. stay in the house sirius. and stop trying to contact harry you’re gonna get in trouble.
if molly ever found out what percy wrote to ron, she’d be even more upset than she already is.
molly didn’t want the kids to talk about harry producing the patronus, because she know that he gets enough attention as it is and she doesn’t want him drawing even more of it. the boy deserves a break.
if molly knew her baby girl was dating somebody she would lose her shit.
molly doesn’t want her kids to participate in the dumbledores army thing. but in my headcanon, especially in molly’s hogwarts au, she would support it. because molly herself, after her brothers died spent a lot of time researching the dark arts and how to defend herself and her family. and she would want her kids to know how to save themselves as well. and she knows that umbridge is fucking useless. and in said hogwarts verse i think she’d even offer to harry if he needed any assistance she would be there for him. because as we all know molly is one of the most badass bitches in the wizarding world.
molly was on duty for the order, which i assume means she was doing the same job as arthur. guarding the prophecy which kind of gives me anxiety because what if it had been her that got attacked. i can’t even imagine that nope no thank you.
molly would’ve been absolutely furious with malfoy if she heard the song he made up about ron. and in her hogwarts verse, she would’ve had to stop the twins and harry from beating up malfoy even if she would’ve liked to see it because he deserves it. she also would’ve gone after ron to make sure he was okay, and probably cuddle him against his will.
molly would’ve known before receiving dumbledores message that arthur was in danger. the clock would’ve told her, because she wouldn’t have been asleep. without arthur by her side she finds it very difficult to sleep. and with what he was doing, guarding the prophecy she would’ve been even more worried and unable to sleep. so she would’ve seen that he was in danger and probably started panicking. and when the message confirmed what happened she would’ve definitely cried. she went straight to him, and seeing him in such a state would be very difficult for her indeed.
all she wanted was the comfort of her children. she needed it as much as they did. and being able to hold them and say it’d be okay was such a relief to her. she was also so grateful to sirius for allowing them all to stay, and honestly that moment was the start of her actually liking him. the fact that he was so willing to help out after how she’s been towards him just completely changed her tune about him.
harry is a son to both arthur and molly, so naturally she would want him to be in the room visiting as well. he’s family too.
the kids kept asking questions to arthur and molly was not having it. so finally she told them to get out.
molly would’ve been very worried about harry during the christmas break, and how he wasn’t joining them and distancing himself. she would understand and wouldn’t push him to do anything, but she would be very worried.
of course molly was extremely heartbroken when the gifts she sent to percy were sent back. she doesn’t understand why she has to be punished this way as well. she loves percy so much, and to be treated this way from her own child brings her more pain than she’s ever felt in her life.
arthur trying to use stitches made molly so angry. like just livid.
sorry but molly saying to harry “professor snape” just confirms that her and snape are bffs
molly would be very upset to learn that the death eater who killed her brothers escaped. she would feel overcome with rage and despair.
the fireworks that the twins set off? she’d love it. she fucking hates umbridge so she really couldn’t care less. like especially in her hogwarts verse she’d just be grinning at them and be so proud of them.
molly would also be so proud of minerva and how she reacts around umbridge. the woman has more restraint than molly would ever have.
book molly would probably be pissed that the twins quit school. my molly though, she’d be mildly upset at first but she’d also be kind of impressed.
in her hogwarts verse, molly p much follows minerva every where, especially when it comes to things like what umbridge was trying to do to hagrid. molly would’ve been there with minerva, and seeing them stun her? oh she’d be pissed and they’d probably all be on the ground in seconds flat because no one touches her best friend and gets away with it.
i want to imagine molly and arthur showing up with the order to help fight off the death eaters. and i would also like to imagine molly killing the death eater that killed her brothers because she deserves that revenge.
finally, molly would’ve joined in with the orders warnings to the dursleys, probably threatening that if they mistreated harry one more time she’d show up there and make them regret every decision they’ve ever made.
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NO ONE DESERVES TO BE BULLYED
How such a simple, and should be obvious, sentence can unleash such a disaster and reveal the true face of people
Oh poor things, the movies made the Marauders the bad guys. Poor defenseless pups. Their actions made them the bad guys. And the movies also did them a favor by not showing a lot of things.
But what, is there a hiring epidemic right now? Snape made a hufflepuff's life miserable because he was a muggle-born? But when? Where? Did they smoke?
Use what you have inside your skull every now and then, a person who is bullied severely for years by those who are supposed to be "the good guys" and gets close to the only people who accept him, in this case the Death Eaters, how could he ever think that the good guys are actually the good guys?
What is the practical point of bullying someone who already tends to have bad company? This does nothing but push him even more towards the Death Eaters. The author herself said in 2007 that the bullying Snape suffered was one of the reasons that pushed him to become a Death Eater.
Bullying is ALWAYS wrong. Bullying someone, even a bad person is wrong. If you don't think so then you have the mentality of a bully and let me tell you, you have no foresight or logic. A person who is bullied will become more and more resentful towards their bullies, how can you expect them to forget everything?
#Bullying is ALWAYS wrong#pro snape#snape stan army#stan snape#anti james potter#anti sirius black#marauders were bulli#james potter was a bully#severus snape was the victime#anti snaters#anti marauders stans#marauders stan#snape defense#snape defender
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Snape Gang
Here to remember that Evan Rosier was part of the Snape Gang canonically.
According to Sirius Black, he was part of a group of Slytherins and aspiring Death Eaters which included Severus Snape, as well as Wilkes, Avery and Mulciber.
it is much more likely that he was part of his group than that of Regulus who was a year younger than Severus. So the gang needs to be updated:
Severus Snape
Bruce Mulciber
Edmund Avery
Charity Burbage
Aurora Sinistra
Wilhelm Wilkes
Evan Rosier
Caradoc Derborn (my personal headcanon)
The Story of the Prince by G_Monti_E
#snape stan army#pro snape#marauders era#stan snape#anti sirius black#snape gang#bruce mulciber#snulciber#edmund avery#caradoc dearborn is canon#caradoc is byron white#caradoc dearborn was in snape gang#evan rosier#slytherin skittles#evan rosier was in snape gang#byron white#caradoc dearborn headcanons#severus snape friends
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marauders fandom: At least James didn't use dark magic!
Bertram Aubrey who had his head swollen twice as big as normal just as a "joke" by James and Sirius with Engorgio Skullus which is literally an illegal Dark charm.
marauders fandom: james bullied snape because snape was a death eater and blood purist!
lily: leave him (snape) alone. what’s he done to you?
james: well, it’s more the fact that he exists, if you know what i mean…
marauders fandom: nooo, james bullied snape because snape was a death eater and blood purist 😭
lily: you think you’re funny. but you’re just an arrogant, bullying toerag, potter. leave him alone.
james: i will if you go out with me, evans. go on… go out with me and i’ll never lay a wand on old snivelly again.
marauders fandom: b-but james-
#marauders era#pro snape#snape stan army#stan snape#anti james potter#anti sirius black#anti snaters#snaters are ridiculous#snaters don't know the canon#marauders were bulli#james potter was a bully
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I take down MovieFlame video (Morgan Ross) In Defense of Snape
I found a video in my YouTube feed that deals with a comparison between Snape and James and who was worse, now we know well that this clash has been going on for years and I don't think it will ever stop. The beauty of fandom is also the fact of being able to explore the subtexts, give personal interpretations and compare with other fans. So I don't want you to understand my intervention as a declaration of war against one side or the other. Whether you are supporters of Snape or James we must be honest and say that what we know through the canon is partial. We know many things, but not enough objective. James Potter is a character that we see only through the memories of a person and that is told to us. It is unfair to judge a person just by hearsay. So the comparison between Snape who appears in all the saga, and James who died in the time of the story is an unequal comparison.
My annoyance, however, comes from the certainty with which some fans, often Marauders stan (although not always) maintain that James was better than Snape. They assert it forcefully but when you dig deeper you realize that they have no solid evidence. If we don't know enough to judge James negatively then we don't have enough evidence to consider him better than Snape either. We can't have double standards on this. Either we know or we don't know. For this reason I usually avoid embarking on a comparison like this, but it is James' fans who first started, for years, to throw mud at Snape and to justify their hatred towards the character. They started comparing him to James, elevating the latter as a hero based on the little information we have. So let's move on to specifically dismantling this video, which reports most of the points that are brought up by James' defenders. (for fairness I invite you to watch the original video HERE, so you can get a personal and balanced idea) The first point brought up in the video is this:
“it's true that James bullied Snape when they were kids which wasn't right but Snape took part in this rivalry as well oftentimes going after James but people just conveniently forget that”
I would like to point out that the first part, absolutely correct, which admits that James bullied Severus, admitting that this was wrong, is followed by a BUT as big as a house. Bullying is always wrong, it doesn't matter if the victim is a good person or not, I've already discussed this point other times but I will never tire of repeating it. If you think that bullying is less serious because the victim is someone you don't like then you are blaming the victim. And this is what many fans have been doing for years. First they try to minimize the seriousness of what James (and Sirius) does, then they justify it until they deny it by claiming that it wasn't bullying. And in the first minutes of the video this is exactly what the boy tries to do.
Snape took part in this rivalry as well oftentimes going after James
Again, attention to detail, the linguistic choice, first he admitted that James was a bully and now he is instead very subtly invalidating the first part by saying that it was a rivalry, because Snape also attacked James. This means that either the first part of the sentence is false or this one is and let's look at the facts. How do we know that this thing happened? In which case in the canon are we ever shown Snape attacking James? In none, because as I said at the beginning we know little about James, we only see snippets of his life, of his attitude and then we are told what he was like by his best friends, boys who even as adults justified his bullying. How can they be reliable? The fact that Snape attacked James is not shown to us, it is only told to us and by Sirius and Remus in the fifth book, after Harry has spied on Snape's memories in which he sees James and Sirius attacking him for no reason in the worst memory. (and don't try, memories in the Harry Potter world are objective, not emotionally modified) Sirius and Remus explain to Harry how Lily started dating James, the two say that James toned down a bit in seventh year and stopped hexing people just for fun. And when Harry asks if James stopped attacking Snape, Remus says this:
"Well," said Lupin thoughtfully, "Snape was a special case. I mean, he never missed an opportunity to curse James, so it was only natural that he would react..." (Harry Potter and The Order of the Phoenix)
This is the only part used by the Marauders Stan to justify James. The subtext is clear, James stopped cursing his classmates, but not Snape because he had to defend himself. But this is simply a reversal, James has heavily bullied Snape for years, and this is canon, but if Snape defended himself and responded to the attacks according to James' defenders this makes him on par with James. In short, if a victim rebels, he is no longer a victim according to them. While on the contrary, after years of heavy bullying, if Snape attacks James and James responds then Gryffindor is the poor victim who in short has the right to defend himself? Am I the only one who smells double standards? For consistency, we should always use the same approach. Either James was a bully for six years and Snape was entitled to defend himself, so they were not on equal footing. So in the last year Snape was in the wrong and James was just defending himself. Or they were equally in the wrong all along. This second hypothesis is absurd, after all, if someone attacks you, do you just have to take it? This message is terribly dangerous. While in the first hypothesis, that is, that it is legitimate to defend oneself (even for James), then the scales tip to one side. To be clear, we are comparing six years of James's severe bullying of Snape to just one year, the last one, in which Snape instead began attacking James at every opportunity. 6 against 1 How can one year be worse than six? Six in which Snape's life was ruined, in which he was humiliated, stripped naked in public and even risked being killed in the prank? Even if we take Remus' words for granted, it means that what Snape suffered from James is clearly worse than what he inflicted on Gryffindor. So first point dismantled. (and we're only at the first minute) Let's continue:
snape disliked James because he was jealous of him he envied James' popularity but meanwhile he spent his time practicing the dark arts with other future Death Eaters there's a reason he wasn't popular like James people saw him
Once again FALSE. All this information comes from the opinions of unreliable people. I have debunked the idea of Snape's alleged jealousy of James in the past but let's get back to it quickly. Who says Snape was jealous of James? Guess what, Sirius:
“The thing is,” said Sirius, “James and Snape hated each other from the first moment, it’s one of those things… you can understand that, can’t you? Because James was everything Snape wanted to be: popular, ace at Quidditch… ace at pretty much everything. Whereas Snape was just a little weirdo up to his neck in the Dark Arts, and James – believe me, Harry – has always detested the Dark Arts.”
This is an opinion of Sirius, James's best friend. He lists things that he considers essential, being popular, an ace at Quidditch. Things that Snape has never cared about. When did Snape ever try to be popular? When did he ever care about Quidditch? The truth is that Snape hated James because from the first train ride James was hateful to him, insulting the Slytherin house that Snape hoped to end up in. James butted into the conversation between him and Lily and already on the train James and Sirius started calling him Snivellus and tripped him up. Do you really think that the antipathy was born because James was popular? James started to annoy and bully Snape right away, it is clearly shown in the canon, in the seventh book. And the question of the dark arts? Same thing is Sirius who tells us, also giving an unflattering opinion, he considered Snape "just a little weirdo immersed up to his neck in the Dark Arts" Do we trust the words of a bully to judge his favorite victim, really? “my ex was really crazy” said the ex-boyfriend who cheated on her several times. Little angel.
It's true that Snape was fascinated by the dark arts, so what? How do we know that he spent his time practicing the dark arts with other future Death Eaters? When is it shown or said? Do you really want me to believe that at Hogwarts, the safest place in wizarding England, students practice dark magic undisturbed?
“There’s a reason he wasn’t as popular as James. People saw him.”
Really? People saw it and what did they do? Didn't they warn the teachers, didn't they try to intervene? The truth is that this is an idea of Sirius that is passed off as fact without any proof. Snape was fascinated by the dark arts as were other housemates, period. People, teachers or classmates never saw him practice illegal spells, no one ever saw even the future Death Eaters do it. The strength of the precursors of the Death Eater, the Knights of Walpurgis in the era of Tom Riddle was that no one knew. Only Dumbledore SUSPECTED but he never managed to prove anything. Do you want to tell me that years later some teenage kids knew for sure what a capable wizard like Dumbledore never managed to prove about the dark wizard par excellence? This is simply ridiculous, an act once again only to try to justify James's bullying of Snape. I repeat, the subtext is always the same: Snape was a bad person, strange, passionate about the dark arts, jealous of James and therefore deserved to be bullied. This mentality, in addition to being horribly wrong, is dangerous. And do not forget, most of these suppositions are either false or unproven, so even if they were true, and it is a very big IF, they cannot justify the bullying suffered. The next point is very interesting instead, the creator of the video says this:
Lily also called Snape out because she wanted to join the Death Eaters.
This is a half-truth. The conversation you quoted comes from Snape's memories seen in the chapter The Prince's Tale in the seventh book and takes place after the worst memory in which Snape was bullied by James and Sirius, and threatened to be stripped in public, (which happens a few months after the prank) here Snape insults Lily after he saw her smile or almost while James was bullying him, he called her Mudblood. That same evening Snape went in front of the Gryffindor tower to apologize and Lily didn't accept the apology, and by bringing up the fact that Snape hung out with shady people, like Avery and Mulciber and that he himself wanted to join the Death Eaters she ended their friendship. But that's a later thing, Lily had known for a long time how Snape thought about Muggles, she knew who he hung out with and what his Slytherin classmates did and yet she remained his friend. The rift came after Snape insulted her. Lily, even if she badly tolerated Snape's ideas for years, as long as she was the exception it was fine, the problem arose only when she was personally insulted. But what interests me most is the sequel, the boy in the video says that Snape did not change his mind even to save his friendship with Lily, I quote:
“can you which for Snape is more damning than anything else I can think of thinking about this the person whose opinion he valued more than anybody else saw him as a bad person and he still didn't try to change let me repeat that Snape could not make himself a better person even for the woman that he loved like nobody else if he couldn't do it then it's clear that he could never change
This point would require a much longer and more in-depth discussion, but I will try to be brief. Snape was prejudiced against Muggles, there is no point in denying it, he frequented future Death Eaters and aspired to join them, not to torture Muggle-borns, but to gain power, to become respected. Something he never experienced. The same "good guys" who were supposed to represent good marginalized, mocked, humiliated, bullied him and were never really stopped. Snape had no one but the future Death Eaters to welcome him. Lily, his best friend, in all these years, even with the authority of Prefect, has never managed to stop the bullying or protect him properly. From his point of view, Snape's distorted one, the Death Eaters were the only way to gain respect. Statements by the author. So the idea of changing sides, of joining the good guys who humiliated or marginalized him didn't make sense. Snape improved in the future, he understood his mistakes and tried to redeem himself as an adult, but as a teenager what did you expect would happen? After his best friend also turned her back on him what should he have done? Improve in what way? Marginalizing himself even more from the only ones who accepted and appreciated him? I understand what the video is saying, if Snape loved Lily so much he should have changed for her, but in the real world it doesn't work like that. If you change just to please someone, the change is not genuine but only superficial. It's a very manipulative attitude. Real change must come from within, it must be desired by the person who implements it, not be performative. Snape will change, even if it will be many years later, precisely because he will understand his mistakes, but as a teenager he lives that separation as something definitive, so much so that he no longer gets close to Lily, respects the girl's wishes and leaves her alone. On the contrary James does the opposite, he pesters her for years, threatens her so that she agrees to go out with him. He bullies her best friend as a moral lever, lies to her and in the last year he shows himself changed to go out with her. As I said before this is a superficial change, since we know that james continues to attack snape in the last year without telling Lily. James has never apologized, he has never understood his mistakes, if there has been a change in his not cursing his classmates for fun it was precisely in function of Lily. This distorted idea that changing for the girl you like is a romantic sign is problematic. You don't have to show that you've changed for the person you like, you have to change to become a better person for yourself first and this must happen for a personal desire that cannot have any exceptions.
If James continues to attack Snape then he hasn't understood his mistakes, he has only learned to hide them. If he had really matured he wouldn't have hidden it from Lily, if he had really been the victim in his last year he could have told Lily and instead he doesn't. Shortly after the boy in the video confidently states that James has changed since in his last year Dumbledore makes him Head Boy. And this simply doesn't make sense, why should Dumbledore's judgment be a moral compass to judge James? I don't know if you realize this but every time someone tries to show how good a person James was you have to go on trust with weak assumptions:
-Lily started dating him so he got better. - Dumbledore made him head boy so he matured. - Lily married him so he was good.
These are all assumptions with big gaps. Dumbledore also gave Remus the Prefect badge in the hope that he would keep his friends at bay and we saw how it went, it didn't help. The next point really made me turn up my nose. The boy in the video brings up a very interesting point, many people who were bullied as teenagers feel empathy for Snape and understand what he felt, but the video states that no, it can't be the same thing, because someone who is bullied in real life doesn't plan for years to join a group of assassins, such as the Death Eaters. On this point I can see the logic, but saying that you understand a character, that you feel empathy for him, maybe even because it reflects a personal experience in a small way does not mean justifying his mistakes. Understanding and justifying are two very different concepts. I rationally understand Snape's actions, but on many occasions I don't agree with them. Fortunately, most people who are bullied have not joined violent groups, but that is not an absolute. The world is complex, people react differently to trauma and yes, unfortunately in reality there are victims who have joined violent groups. The classic phrase "the abused becomes the abuser" must not become a way to justify wrong actions, but as I said before it is a way to rationally understand situations.
Bullying someone, even a bad person, is never justifiable for this reason too. What you trigger in the victim is a sense of helplessness and anger. Feelings that in the worst case can lead a person down dangerous paths. Those who understand this understand how strong she was when she was young, how difficult it was to remain a good person. The saga teaches us clearly, you have to choose between what is right and what is easy. But I breathed a sigh of relief when the boy in the video said with clear feeling that he was sorry for all the people who were bullied because they didn't deserve it. I smiled slightly and thought: "finally a nice message, thank you." But before I had time to inhale, he dropped the bomb, I quote:
“you guys did not deserve to be bullied and I am so sorry that that happened to you... but Snape kind of did deserve to be bullied”
The hypocrisy of this sentence makes me tremble. He clearly said that Snape deserved to be bullied. *Ok I'll take a breath* I'll repeat it clearly: NO ONE DESERVES TO BE BULLIED. If you justify bullying you are mentally a bully. The reason why he then justifies bullying is somewhere between absurd and exasperating, once again falsehood
"Snape himself was a bully, he and his little Death Eater friends picking on the other Muggle-born students"
FALSE, I know exactly where this idea comes from and it's so tiring to have to repeat the same things over and over again. Snape never attacked or cursed any of his fellow muggleborns. Was Snape a bully? In a way yes and I'll tell you why it might be correct to call him one (the fact that I have to do it is absurd) because he called muggleborns Mudblood, all except Lily. And we know that in fictional narrative that is a very serious slur. This is where his bullying begins and ends, and yes using insults like that is a form of bullying, I agree with that.
Now, what does this tell us? That using insults is a form of bullying and therefore those who use them deserve to be bullied? Again I smell double standards. By this logic then even James deserved to be attacked by Snape last year, because for years Snape was attacked, bullied, mocked with the name of Snivellus, stripped naked in public, suffocated etc... Why is Snape a horrible bully to demonize if one uses the term mudblood while the people who tormented him for years are justified? After years now I understand the game, I know perfectly well where people want to get with this. They want to make James look like a vigilante, someone who bullied Snape to defend the muggleborns. But once again it is false. James was a bully who attacked those he considered inferior, when he was in numerical superiority. He never attacked people like Mulciber, Avery or Malfoy. James started bullying Snape as early as the train ride, long before Snape had even heard of Death Eaters.
“Snape has always been a racist, even at 11 years old.”
.Funny how the video clearly quoted the part where Lily worriedly asks if it makes a difference to her being a muggleborn and Snape says NO. Snape hesitantly says it makes no difference.
“the only reason why he said no was because he wanted to make sure that Lily liked him the way that he liked her”
Excuse me? This is your baseless assumption, Snape has been her friend for years, he defends her, helps her understand the magical world. I understand not wanting to sanctify Snape, really, he has so many flaws and no, he wasn't a wonderful person, but if you take his clear words and start from the assumption that he is lying you are being unfair. Also because I would like to point out that this is exactly what James does. He shows himself to have changed ONLY to please Lily, didn't he praise him for this just now? Even taking the boy's false interpretation as true How come if Snape does it he is a manipulative liar while if James does it he is to be praised? Oh look, another double standard has entered the room.
"James's bullying is not responsible for Snape joining the Death Eaters."
This is a simplification of the speech, the bullying that Snape suffered is not the reason why he joined the Death Eaters but it is one of the reasons, not the only one but one of the. The difference is clear. If Snape had not been bullied and marginalized, if he had been able to live the Howarts years in peace with his best friend he would not have felt the need to be accepted by the future Death Eaters. Mind you I'm not saying that he would not have been attracted to them, his childhood experiences, the violent Muggle father would have remained, but with a positive contrast and a part of the "good" who defends him and helps him he would have been much less inclined to approach the Death Eaters. But we know that with the if you don't make history, it went as it went, but pretending that the bullying suffered did not play any role means denying reality. As well as trying to make it less serious than it is.
When we then go to compare the more "adult" versions the discussion becomes even more partial because we know even less about the first war. The fact that James joined the Order as I have reiterated several times is not a sign of maturation, he has always been against the dark arts and not by choice. His parents were against it, as they were against the purist ideology. He did not have to rebel, he simply adapted to the ideals that were fortunately right. Could he ever not have been interested in the war? Actually not since his wife was a target because she was Muggle-born and shortly after his son too. It is not a sign of maturation and if I may say so, not even of who knows what reasoning. Even Peter Pettigrew joined the Order, what does this prove?
The whole next part is based on pointing out that if Snape hadn't told Voldemort the prophecy, the Potters would be alive, but once again what ifs lead nowhere. If Snape hadn't eavesdropped on the prophecy and told Voldemort, the events that led to his destruction wouldn't have been triggered and we would never have had the saga. Drama is the engine of events. In the narrative fiction, Snape was reporting important information to his boss, he didn't torture or attack anyone, he just passed on information without knowing what it would lead to. What's the point of blaming him for what follows? Do we use the same reasoning for all the other characters in the saga? I don't think so, so let's not waste too much time on it.
Another great classic:
snape was going to let Voldemort kill a baby and probably its whole family without batting an eye until he realized that Lily was involved he asked for mercy only for her and even Dumbledore is disgusted that Snape doesn't care that James and Harry die.
I have often spoken about this and it is always the same story, couldn't Snape ask for mercy also for Harry who was Voldemort's main target and poor James? Why would Snape have cared about the boy who made his life hell? Snape dared to ask for mercy for Lily and to be sure he also went to Dumbledore risking his life. Allying himself with Dumbledore is a clear betrayal towards Voldemort, if he had been discovered he would have been killed. And I would like to remind you that Snape is terrified of Dumbledore at this point in the story, so much so that as soon as he sees Dumbledore appear he begs him not to kill him Dumbledore is then disgusted by what exactly? From his interpretation of events. Dumbledore thinks that Snape wants Lily all for himself. How distorted is this thing? It is disturbingly similar to what Voldemort thinks. Snape doesn't want Lily, he just wants her to be spared and is so panicked that he asks Dumbledore for help.
snape aided Voldemortin killing a baby without batting an eye
Ehm, no? Snape couldn't know that the prophecy was referring to a child, the prophecy is not clear, it is only said that whoever has the power to defeat Voldemort approaches. Approaches does not necessarily mean is about to be born.
I also approached the supermarket checkout yesterday to pay, I wasn't born in front of it. Snape learned that the prophecy referred to a child, Harry, only after Voldemort interpreted it that way. As soon as he learned that it referred to him and therefore Lily, he was activated. (and for those who pretend not to understand cause and effect, Snape's request to spare Lily is what allowed Lily's sacrifice to take effect)
james Potter died protecting his family and died a hero meanwhile Snape changed sides because he was obsessed with a girl who he called a racial slur and who probably hadn't given him a second thought since that incident snape holding on to this high school crush is creepy and honestly the fact that he even loves Lily in the first place is
James died protecting his family, true great thing he risked his life to try to protect the ones he loved. Commendable. Snape risked his life to protect the ones he loved by starting to snitch on silent after silent made it clear to him that he was disgusted by him and was clearly trying to use him. He risked his life for years. Disturbing.
Hey look at more double standards. Also this whole obsession thing really tired my soul. You want to think that Snape was obsessed? Ok say it, I don't feel like repeating it all over again, I made a whole video about it, HERE. (Italian Version)
"honestly the fact that he even loves Lily in the first place is pathetic because Lily never showed any sign of feeling the same way i get it if you're hung up on your first high school girlfriend but Lily was never even close to that for Snape in fact most of their middle school and high school career she was questioning their friendship"
Really Morgan? Is unrequited love pathetic? I've had friends confess to having a crush on me and even though I didn't reciprocate I never thought they were pathetic. A relationship like that, as turbulent as you want, wasn't questioned until Lily was insulted, she and Severus had been BEST FRIENDS for years. She had doubts about Avery and Mulciber and exposed them to Snape of course but she never questioned Snape until her worst memory.
"Everyone commemorated James' heroic death"
But don't tell me? James was loved and popular, right? What's surprising about him being praised after his death? Can I remind you that even Peter Pettigrew was considered heroic because he faced Sirius until he lost his life against him? At least in public opinion. Whoever dies in war becomes a hero, wow what news.
Snape became a teacher at Hogwarts spending his days bullying children as an adult people fault James for bullying a kid when he was a kid but Snape bullied innocent children as a grown man there was no excuse for that no matter how hard you were bullied.
Ah here we are, the comparison out of scale. James is dead so he is a hero, Snape survived, the comparison should stop there, you can't make a comparison between a dead person and a living person. Snape treats some students badly? Absolutely yes and I have already spoken about it. Is it unfair? Absolutely yes, but what does this prove? You see him getting closer, right?
The point is simple, James was a bully (so at least he admits he was) but as a boy, teenager against teenager, while Snape (bad guy) takes it out on children. What is there to do with it? first James is a bully, then he isn't, then in reality it's a rivalry, then he still was but he matured and Snape still deserved it and the thesis changes again, James was a bully but less serious because he took it out on those his own age. All aimed at downplaying James's faults. But he is totally blind to the evidence, even at the same age James always took it out on those who were lower than him, he attacked classmates (not just Snape) in numerical superiority 2 against 1, in superiority of magical ability, in superiority of status, he was popular and the others were not. by Sirius' own admission many turned a blind eye when they did these things. Where would the equality be?
But hey the video doesn't end there, everything that is brought up after that is already tired and hackneyed points, Snape bullied the students? I talked about it HERE. Snape was Neville's Boggart I also talked about this HERE. Then he goes on to say that Snape treated Harry badly in the first lesson because he still hates James and also the fact that Snape saved Harry's life in the first book doesn't count because he didn't do it to atone for his guilt but because he had a suspicious account with James, because he had a life debt since James saved him from The Prank.
Snape couldn't bear being in your father's debt i do believe he worked so hard to protect you this year because he felt that would make him and your father quit then he could go back to hating your father's memory in peace
But guess what? This is a supposition of Dumbledore who in order not to reveal the truth to Harry says this thing but it is HIS SUPPOSITION. I understand that Dumbledore is wise and knowledgeable but he really is not the omniscient narrator, not everything he says is true and we know it well. Snape feels guilty and tries to atone as he can. Invalidating his commitment to saving Harry is absurd and unfair.
this was not heroic whatsoever it was immature selfish psychopathic and honestly I would even say evil
Ok there is only one thing I can agree with here, Snape is immature in some ways, he is in his early 30s and has some immature attitudes. but selfish? he sacrificed his life to fight voldemort, he gave up everything, he risked himself over and over again to protect Harry and not only that. How can you call him selfish? If he was, he simply wouldn't have agreed to be a spy, he wouldn't have cared. psychopathic? really a term used inappropriately just because it sounded good, I guess. evil for what? I'm really curious about this
"I will admit that Snape was brave for going behind Voldemort's back..."
oh great, at least this is... no wait talk again
"but the reason why he did this wipes away any credit he would get for it the fact that his inspiration for this was his “love” for Lily is concerning."
Oh well, even a brave thing he did is invalidated because he did it for the love of Lily, what a surprise. Then he tries to get back to the obsession thing and it reaches new levels of detail:
"he had not spoken to Lily since he called her a mud blood 22 years ago his last memory of her was a 16-year-old girl while he was a 38-year-old man thinking about this I'll let you sit on that for a second his obsession with Lily for 22 freaking years is disturbing"
Ok please tell me I'm not the only one with an image in my head here. it's clear what Morgan is referring to right? Snape alone in a dark room that reminds of his adolescence, remembers Lily, her beautiful green eyes, her red hair and then he goes down and... OMG I know I know some James stans are wild but this is just hilarious. You want me to believe that you actually spent time thinking about snape going you-got-it? This is disturbing, the fact that you thought about it. xD This is just a rather sick assumption by some fans, disturbed on multiple levels but with no basis in canon.
Snape may have died a brave man but he also died as a man who brought nothing but harm to the world.
How annoying is it that there is always a BUT? Snape is brave BUT... Snape saved Harry BUT... Snape gave his life BUT... We could do the same with James, but we're better than that, I hope.
nobody was better off because Snape was on this earth.
Of course not, except that without Snape, as mentioned before, the events that led to Voldemort's two downfalls would never have happened. But hey, who cares, right?
everything that made him a hero and made people argue that he was a good person was avoidable if as James said he wasn't alive he should not be commemorated the way James a true hero was
If Snape had died during the first war, you mean? Well, he certainly wouldn't have been considered a hero because he wasn't one yet. Really, what kind of nonsense reasoning is that? If James had died at 14, he wouldn't have been remembered as he is remembered in the canon for fighting Voldemort. But thanks to Zeus, it's obvious. Snape becomes a hero later, and is remembered as such for this, just like James. The fact that James was a bully doesn't erase his merit in fighting Voldemort, but the opposite is also true, merits don't erase guilt. This also applies to Snape, his guilt doesn't erase merits and his merits don't erase his guilt.
snape is an evil person and always was james' bullying might have brought that out a bit but deep down it was always in there
Evil again, I would like to understand why, but obviously it doesn't go any further, because all the things listed are just a constant invalidation of Piton's merits and belittling his suffering. even here, when for the umpteenth time he retracts on the bullying he suffered he ends up saying that the bullying he suffered only brought out that part of him but it was always there.
"if you're still defending Snape after everything I just went over you are absolutely delusional i'll leave you with these words FU*K Snape"
Yes the video ends like this. Very mature I would say xD. I am Snape Stan precisely because I can dismantle all these weak arguments. The real delusionals are those who for years have tried to throw mud on a character as complex and imperfect as Snape, driven by anger and precisely by disappointment because there are those who can appreciate a gray character and see heroism even in a not so nice person. And to justify all this it is precisely the James Stans who have started this unequal comparison that they are always destined to lose, in which they compare a complete character with one who only appeared in past scenes.
I also made the video version DEBANK SNATER'S ACCUSATIONS - YouTube
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DEBANK SNATER'S ACCUSATIONS
I also uploaded the debanking video of MovieFlame's video, it's a little experiment, I usually post videos in Italian but in this case I tried to do it in English:
DEBANK SNATER'S ACCUSATIONS
You can find the transcription HERE
#marauders era#pro snape#snape stan army#stan snape#anti james potter#anti sirius black#canon james potter#james potter was a bully#pro severus snape#severus snape was the victime#the marauders era#james potter VS severus snape
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