Some Things About Ma Feima (Yanqing) I Learned
And it matters to HSR Yanqing only because some people have had what they heard about Ma Feima affect their views of him even though it really SHOULDN'T imo.
The underlying point I'm trying to get at is that when we hear about parts of a story or characters we aren't familiar with, it'd be fairer to at least try to look into it more before making final judgments, especially if we only hear see memes and short summaries from a person over the internet.
If you're also interested in this topic then this will be very long, so thank you for bearing with me.
And if not, especially because you don't care or don't want to read about 7S/HI3 Yanqing then that's also fair, Ma Feima and Yanqing are different characters, and I hope you have a good day!
(NOTE: CW for the mention/discussion of a notable age gap between characters in the story. There are details surrounding that but I'd rather place this here for convenience. Look out for yourselves and stay safe!)
It's wild how many different versions of what happened in the Seven Swords visual novel, which is understandable due to its lack of official translation + not being complete (as far as I know? I am open to corrections overall). But the amount of details that go missing or are incorrect is notably large and I find this situation interesting. As mentioned, anyone who knows better (content, translation-wise, etc.), please correct me on anything if needed.
I will use some screenshots from the videos that translated the available chapters (1-2 and part of the beginning/prologue of 3, I believe). The translations are not entirely accurate so heck, I might be wrong on stuff too.
From personal experience, there were two things I heard about Ma Feima from HI3 players:
He killed his master, Fu Hua.
He cheated on his wife.
Legit, the first time I encountered these points, it was as simple as that. And I took it at face value because it understandably takes effort to look into this stuff and a lot of players from HI3 were saying it. But over time, curiosity got to me and I wanted to see the context surrounding it, and here's what I found.
However, here are some things to know about Seven Swords and Fu Hua's disciples:
The Seven in order are: Lin Zhaoyu, Su Mei, Jiang Wanxi, Jiang Wanru, Cheng Lingshuang, Ma Feima, and Qin Suyi
The present of the VN is set in 1496 while the assassination of Fu Hua was twenty years prior in 1476.
Ma Feima, despite being the 6th disciple, is the youngest.
Ma Feima's original name was Yanqing but changed it to Feima when he got older.
Qin Suyi, the 7th disciple, is Sushang's mother in both HI3 and HSR.
Lin Zhaoyu, the 1st disciple, and Ma Feima are married.
Onto the points:
He killed his master, Fu Hua.
Yes, he was involved but some attribute the plan to him. BUT he wasn't. The person who formed this plan was Su Mei, the 2nd disciple.
Supposedly, all seven disciples participated though most, if not all of them, were reluctant to do so.
They were all bothered by Fu Hua's, effective but cruel way of dealing with Honkai-infected people (She would wipe out whole villages if even ONE person was infected).
The last straw for the disciples was when Jiang Wanru, the 4th disciple, got infected.
It was in that battle that Ma Feima got the scar on his face.
Also to note, Cheng Lingshuang, the 5th disciple, was the one to get the last hit on Fu Hua.
This is a straightforward point, a lot of people know this stuff, and is probably the point that's more elaborated on. But I still wanted to mention it because, oftentimes, a lot of the credit for the plan, and sometimes the last hit is given to Ma Feima. It erases the actions of other pretty interesting characters and is simply incorrect.
Onto the second point, because this is where things get really interesting and a lot is going on.
2. Ma Feima cheated on his wife.
This has given the idea that he had an affair, cheating on his wife, Lin Zhaoyu
No, he didn't.
It is true that he was in love with Su Mei but she never loved him back and was very clear about it so in a literal-traditional sense, he didn't have an affair.
Emotionally, yeah.
It seems that he had been attached to her since he was a child.
Lin Zhaoyu seems to have always been aware of that and still pursued to marry him.
BIG NOTE: This is where I'm going to cover the age gap stuff.
One thing that I have rarely seen anyone mention is the large gap between Lin Zhaoyu and Ma Feima in age.
It's said that Lin Zhaoyu is 15 years older than Su Mei.
Supposedly, Qin Suyi was around eight years old when Fu Hua found her.
Remember, Ma Feima is the youngest of the disciples.
I wouldn't have harped as hard about the age gap if they met/didn't know each other in Ma Feima's childhood, but the disciples technically grew up together so I found it to be questionable.
For reference:
In order, that's Lin Zhaoyu, Su Mei, and Ma Feima when they were younger.
At minimum and based on all the searching and math, at minimum, Su Mei would be thirteen there, and by the 15-year age gap, Zhaoyu would have been 28 years old.
Now, based on the writing, Zhaoyu and Feima most likely got married in the twenty years between the assassination of Fu Hua and the present of Seven Swords.
The youngest Feima would've been at the assassination was seventeen years old at that point.
For the present of the story, Zhaoyu, and Su Mei are 56 years old and 41 years old respectively. Feima is likely in his thirties.
Like I said, I'm making a big point to this because, like, what the heck. That's MAJORLY concerning even if you tried to reason your way around it. Besides any potential "normal in the era" type stuff and that they got married when they were both adults, it's still a huge yikes, isn't it? Also, I've seen barely anyone mention that, and the ones I did see it from, it was when I was looking into the visual novel.
It's mostly because Yanqing is the one in HSR, he's the character that gets the most eyes. And when people only know him as a "master-killing wife cheater" without any of the context surrounding it, it's a huge shame, albeit fair if people don't want to actively look into it themselves. But because a notable chunk of players have let those perceptions have weight over an unrelated by anything but appearance, old name, and the parallel of (potentially) killing a master.
The circumstances surrounding the two are very different.
HSR Yanqing has Jing Yuan to raise and guide him safely through his early life. He's still very young and while stubborn, has a good head on his shoulders, and has a lot of potential to grow into someone strong and stable.
7S/HI3 Ma Feima on the other hand, is shown to have grown very differently from his younger self.
He is far from enjoying life, and don't get me wrong, he isn't completely innocent.
But he's completely aware and is miserable.
There's a lot more I could cover in terms of Ma Feima, his circumstances, and the things about the characters around them, but my brain is so fried lol. All-in-all, his story alongside the seven, is very...complicated.
My main thing is that, hey, maybe we should be a bit more vigilant when we learn things about characters. Beyond fiction, misinformation spreads very easily because we, understandably, take things at face value. In terms of media literacy, we see it time and time again when characters get reduced to a singular trait or a ship or get heavily misunderstood by the audience because a simplified summary will never do the context justice.
43 notes
·
View notes
Lucky Seven is a very cool sword, both in lore, theming, and design
~~Massive Xenoblade 1 and 3 spoilers under the cut~~
Fiora's soul and will being stored within the Origin Metal used to craft Lucky Seven is so cool to me for so many reasons:
With Aionios being a creation of Origin under the influence of Moebius, it's entire existence is thus directly under the influence of whoever is in control of Origin itself. The Origin supercomputer is based upon Ontos's core and architecture (which we know from Future Redeemed), making Ontos the prime administrator of Origin. Thus Ontos, and anyone tied to that core, carries special privileges within Aionios and Origin. (ex. Shulk carried the Monado in XB1, and the Monado IS Ontos. Rex's life was tied to the Pneuma core, one part of the Trinity Processor which was also under the jurisdiction of Ontos, A just straight up IS Ontos, etc.)
So Fiora, who ALSO was a Monado wielder (via her being Meyneth's vessel and Meyneth too having a Monado of her own as one of the two gods of the Xenoblade 1 world), too has an innate connection to Ontos and the Trinity Processor. Which is why Lucky Seven is so strong within Aionios. She (as the sword) is able to completely override Moebius's control; allowing her (the sword) to shatter the Flame Clocks, obliterate Moebius, and cut through literally anything within Aionios. Lucky Seven, which is Fiora, is essentially part of Ontos and thus can rewrite the "code" of Aionios (yes, Aionios isn't a digital world but that's the easiest way to explain how Origin and Aionios works.) That is such a cool way to explain the extreme strength of the blade.
Furthermore, it means that Fiora is still carrying on Meyneth's wish to give the people of the world a choice of how to live their lives. In Xenoblade 1, Meyneth's whole thing was acting as opposition to Zanza. She wished for an ever changing world in which its inhabitants could live and choose for themselves, whereas Zanza wished for a stagnant world bound by fate. He wanted complete and utter control over those who lived "beneath him", as he saw it. Fiora came to embody these desires and values of Meyneth after Meyneth's death at Mechonis Core, and idk it's just really cool to me that her influence on both the Xenoblade 1 party (especially Fiora) and the Xenoblade universe as a whole is still as strong as ever within Aionios.
Moebius is the embodiment of the fear of change in an unstable world. And after seizing control of Origin, Z created a world in which nothing changes and it's inhabitants serve as fuel to keep Moebius alive. Nothing within Aionios progresses. It persists for eternity, those living within stuck in an endless cycle of bloodshed and hatred.
So to have the one thing capable of combatting Moebius being a weapon that is the physical manifestation of the willpower and motivation of Fiora is just really cool to me, especially given how important Fiora and Meyneth are to Xenoblade 1 and how their entire thing in that game was giving the people of the world the ability to choose for themselves and defy fate. Fiora, as Lucky Seven, is giving the people of Aionios a real second chance at life unshackled by Moebius and their control. Just as Meyneth gave Fiora a second chance at life after Fiora was killed at the beginning of Xenoblade 1.
The way the lore, function, and theming of Lucky Seven is all tied together is good shit.
It also being why the sword is called "Lucky Seven" is very funny. (Fiora is Xenoblade 1's seventh party member, and she IS the sword.)
It could also be why the sword looks so much like a Monado. The soul within is that of someone with a connection to the Monado/Ontos.
10 notes
·
View notes