#stan willow in this ep

[sewerfight]

straight up Willow getting mega-scorned for doing some shit that would've gotten Warren a ridiculous amount of rizz from his dumb friends was part of the reason I was honestly fine with her blowing up the world in Season 6

[drawnaghht]

Yuichi Usagi - what's in a name?

I read "Senso" over the end of March and the last week and reviewed a bunch of interviews again and man i dunno how to post abt it but it seems that Yuichi Usagi is actually intentional as naming? And yes, Yuichi can be a last name also, but is still mainly read as a first name.

Like specifically it seems that it’s a reference to the ending of “Usagi Yojimbo: Senso” in a similar way to how the rest of the show is also intentionally an homage to that story as it’s main source of inspiration.

“Yuichi” commonly has the meaning "heroic first (son)" (雄一) and in the japanese subtitles, Yuichi is spelled as both 雄一 and ユウイチ - Yūichi. So let's take the japanese subtitling as additional canon as that’s how the character’s introduce themselves. (I'll link this Japanese-Names website as an online source for now since I'm not fluent in it myself.) The subtitles are based on the english dub of course, but it seems the japanese dub is similar on the name introductions for the most part (not a native speaker myself so I can only guess).

Spoilers for Senso if you haven't read it. I recommend you do, if really nothing else. It’s a really nice mashup of sci fi in Usagi Yojimbo, in a very “War of the Worlds” type clash. I really loved the foreword comic and the illustrations before the story. It's a really good story. Here’s a nice spoilerless review of it.

So from interviews we know that the Samurai Rabbit crew was inspired by and drew influences from six-issue book Usagi Yojimbo: Senso - you can see it in how the Makkine were designed and episode references (S2, ep 9 "Eggs!" - the falling martian ships are called eggs in “Senso”) and mainly the story outline of aliens invading edo-period japan.

So why give Yuichi Usagi a first name as a last name?

We see this backstory in "Willow Branch" in season 2.

The sword was lost. That is a storyline they included to make an interesting story out of it but to also connect the show and og comic in a different way. A "passing of the torch" in some sense, but also literally what the comic tells us about og Usagi and his swords. In Senso: "They are my soul. Pass them down to your firstborn… then to his [...] then down the line…” And in the show we see that Willow Branch is found and recovered by Yuichi and the sword accepts him as the next in line. The firstborn son.

So from this we can make the fan-theory that perhaps in the show canon, Miyamoto Usagi’s family maybe named their next firstborn in line Yuichi, to honor their forebear Miyamoto Usagi's last wish, again if we're going by the thought that this was inspired by "Senso". (Jotaro being his last surviving member in this verse possibly, we don't know here bc it's intentionally left vague to not spoil series-only viewers + keep the mystery open for anyone who decides to read the comic after the series for the first time). It could even be a possibility that they just kept that as a surname for sentimental reasons, because the family had women as first-born children for so long (if we assume based on Usagi's auntie and missing parents), but they wanted to keep that memory going for as long as possible, since the sword was lost shortly after Miyamoto saved Edo from Kagehito’s plan a 1000 years before Yuichi’s time. But that’s already just speculation from me as a fan of the cartoon.

And before die-hard comic readers swoop in, yes, in Senso the swords are not lost, but again, it’s an alternative universe story situation for the people making the show, and I find what they did was interesting.

The comic’s ending is tied into the world of “Space Usagi” as well, without spoiling it too much, which is a storyline Stan did in a space opera setting. The connection between being inspired by Senso which is tied to this story may also be why so many interviews and articles call Usagi Chronicles as inspired by Space Usagi directly, since both are spin-offs that take place in a distant future.

Or you know, it could also just be that they wanted an easy-sounding name for their main character to call that wasn't only Usagi, since they have two in the series: their own and the original.

But all in all, whether the name comes as a reference to the original comic, or from simple use of a common name, it can’t be ignored that this is just how the show calls it’s main character.

But you can still call him Yuichi, as that is what both the crew (his creators) and Stan Sakai call him when talking of both tbe Usagis. (Or, in the case of Stan, "my Usagi" and "Their/Samurai Rabbit/the show's Usagi") It could be that out of respect for the work the crew put into his series, Stan didn’t suggest more naming conventions for the character because he already liked the work and story the crew did. It could be that they put a pin in it at first and then got used to it as pre-production continued. Could even just be that he loled it right away. But I don’t find it that useful to speculate on that as much, because the cartoon we have is already made and finished how it is and well, we don’t know the exact authorial reasonings from the show crew side much, so Yuichi Usagi it is.

Though also, the way that his names are used in the show (Auntie mainly calls him Usagi and family usually adress via 1st name, Yuichi is never used mich beyond introductions) and how it's used in the interviews when talking about Miyamoto Usagi as well, it feels like they meant to give him two first names, and couldn’t decide on a surname-sounding last name so, Yuichi Usagi was left in the final script. But that's just my guess as a fan and viewer again.

Maybe other fans have had similar or better discussions about it? It would be interesting to know if the show has more japanese fans and how they find this, for example. What they think about how the show introduces him as Surname-Given Name, but then every other character switches to just calling him Usagi right away. In japan, people usually use last name+ honorifics when they have just met. But both Usagi's new friends and Usagi himself switch to first-name basis after their first day meeting each other and going through a few fights. Is it just because the show has a mostly western audience(my assumption), and we're meant to use his given name as an audience to be more familiar with him... or is it only because he's a rabbit and some of the characters (like Lord Kogane) don't really care more? Perhaps a 1000 years into the future, they've partially lost the use of some traditions?

In any case, it doesn’t feel like the show made that big of a faux pas naming Yuichi the way they did. Ould be that my guess is wrong and it wasn't as deliberate a reference to Senso. It seems a much higher possibility that they thought of that, thought it sounded nice and then kept it because it was an easy way to call him differently from comics-Usagi during production itself, but still getting to call him Usagi in the show-proper.

This is just me basing this on official interviews and the Senso book, but this just seems more likely than them picking a random name with no meaning to it. Of course, I could also be wrong, but based on interviews along, the showrunners and creative team seem so genuine in wanting to give the comic a good show that it doesn't make sense that they wouldn't research it. Or at the very least, ask about it from Stan himself or even just get a note from him about it, since he reviewed everything else. Candie and Doug (showrunners) even mention (in Comic Book Couple's Counceling podcast interview) how they really wanted to go deeper with research this time and art director Khang Le mentioned how they took a lot of cues from modern japan as well, from their research trips there.

I know this probably won't put any future discussions/rambling about this to rest among other fans, but well, just some thoughts on this. While I think it's probably kind of silly of me to be writing long essays abt a cartoon show I like, I do think it sort of warrants more discussion abt how we talk about characters and how we refer to them. For another show i'm a fan of for example, the character has an official name and a nickname, but the show itself consistently only used the nickname to let the reader be familiar with her. While characters like teachers and enemies might refer to them with their given name, even her full name, their family and friends mainly use the easier nickname. But it seemed that the reverse happened with that show's fandom, as the more unique given name became more used than the nickname the show itself gave us. And this was sorta the same thoughtprocess I had here with Usagi Chronicles.

Anyway, this has been a post x3 I meant to make this shorter and just about Senso, but I sorta started rambling more after the auntie and generations of female Usagi descendants theory x3

edit 5.05: fixed some grammar and sentence logic mistakes! added clarifications where ref was missing (CCBC podcast)

edit 13.06: I looked up the spellings for Yuichi as a last name and while it's similar, based on how it's written in the show, this supports my previous reading still. It still seems like it's meant more as a title almost, the same way naming would have been in old norse for example "Ivan's son" would become "Ivanson" or in english-language names, "Miller's son" would become "Millerson" (patronymic). So again, maybe Yuichi is meant as "first son" as the first name, but Usagi is his namesake because the family still wanted to honor their common ancestor, Miyamoto Usagi. That's the possible in-world reasoning, but with how much this crew put into the show, I wouldn't be surprised that they thought the same thing, that it's a nice way to reference the book Senso they were insired by, but also Miyamoto Usagi the character, who they were inspired by.

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ANGEL: 8 hours to sunrise. 20 miles from land. LAWSON: I just might make it. ANGEL: Hey. I'm sorry for what happened. But if I ever see you again... I'm gonna have to kill ya. LAWSON: Aye, aye, chief. (to the crew) Take good care of her. She's a good boat. (climbs the ladder to exit the sub) SPIKE: Bloody brilliant. Turn the poor sod to save the ship. Then make him dash for dry land before Mr. Sunshine scorches him a new one. You're still a dick. (grins) ANGEL: Yeah. I am. (he steps aside, glaring meaningfully at Spike) SPIKE: Bollocks.

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[itsdelicate]

my fav album is rep too!!! fav era prob lover? 1989 was great too but I wasn't on tumblr at the time (or a swiftie tbh). ooh evermore for me!! folklore is amazing too though ofc. what are ur top 5 from each?

OMG REALLY?? that's amazing I would do anything to meet bash he's so funny, love him sm. yea ive seen ppl say that about him too which is so ugh. love tao forever <3 I have!! I loved it too so you definitely should. tell me how you like it after!! ahh I watched a few eps of the good place then just stopped. idk why though cause I really liked it. I'll prob start it again, I'm so free rn lmao. ME TOO!! I'm such a huge kate sharma and simone ashley fan. she's everything akdbsjns. also kathony are just so very. yes that's always okay I'd love to answer them!! ooh that's tough idrk cause I don't watch a lot of movies but i mainly just love comedy movies and anything w sandra bullock skdjsj also the breakfast club, and the 2000s and 2010s movies like clueless and legally blonde!! wbu? do u have a fav movie?

just a random question: whats ur top 5 from midnights (3am included)?

it's my friends bday and she's having this sleepover party w some other friends too. haven't seen them in a bit so I'm excited!! well that's good and I'm happy u get a little trip!! hope you have fun!!

xxx ur secret santa

rep stans unite!! oooh lover era was cute it got caught up in the pandemic 😔 when did u become a swiftie! oh omg okay i’ll have to do top 3 cause i don’t know my top 5 ahdjfj i hope that’s okay but for folklore it’ll have to be seven, invisible string and hoax and for evermore it’s willow, ivy and rwylm <3 what are yours!

he really is omg and he’s so lovely i gave them all little handmade gifts and showed them a pic of what was inside it on my phone so they wouldn’t have to rip open the packaging and bash looked at the pic and went 😮 and proceeded to open it up right there and then to gush over it ahdjfj also no literally tao’s just a kid who loves his friends and is afraid of losing them!! omg okay i will and the good place is sooo good 💞 yes oh my gosh!! simone was actually at the convention too shdjf she’s so pretty i maybe died seeing her in person

i love comedy too! omg love legally blonde (the musical is also great since u asked about musicals the other day!!) my fav movie is tangled :’) but for non-animated it’s kingsman! which is so far from my usual genre of movies tbh but it’s so good and also the greatest showman is up there!! the songs 🤧 speaking of movies my friends and i usually do a movie night every friday since i’ve moved to stay connected and we watched klaus today and it was so good 🥺

omg okay i’ll try to do an actual top 5 for midnights: the great war, karma, would’ve could’ve should’ve, yoyok and sweet nothing ❤️ your turn! 👀

oh that sounds so fun!! i hope you have the best time 🥰 thank u so much!

[eatnightmares]

1.13 bellwethers time...haha...yay... 🥲

at least it seems like they had a few days travel...slaps car roof you can fit plenty of bonding in there

and good lird when the dual narration hits!!! they have completely different goals and yet they've never been more in sync...and the descriptions are Soooooo evocative...

carpenter stans will hear the words willow tree and jump 3 feet in the air

our best friend A GOD WOUNDED THE LAND HERE. TURN BACK. <3

WHY IS THIS PODCAST SO SEXYYYYYY...THE BELLS!!!!!

nevermind i hate it here. "not a throne, nothing like that" :)))))) "because i know her now...i know she's already changing her mind about leaving our faith" HE DOESN'T KNOW HER AT ALL HE DOESN'T KNOW PAIGE EITHER. HE WANTS THEM BOTH WITH HIM BUT CAN ONLY IMAGINE IT WITHIN THE CONFINES OF HIS OWN NARRATIVE. ONLY IF THEY'LL PLAY THE ROLES HE DEIGNS TO GIVE THEM. AND THEN LITERALLY CONGRATULATING HIMSELF ON "MAKING ROOM" FOR THEM faulkner you are so so annoying and i love you so much. i need to bite you in half

god there is so much here. "this is extraordinary, this is beautiful" her bit in late s3 about how his miracles Are beautiful and something she dreamed of so why did he let her feelings turn to horror and disgust...

"so long as we're willing to shape it like this" faulkner just now!! we can reshape the world, we can stay be each others' side, but only if it looks exactly like this!!!!

"if it was just you and i" making me fucking crazyyyyyyy how she doesn't elaborate on Who else is there that's making it so she can't make excuses. i think it's both the sainted citizens around her and her ongoing struggle to empathize with strangers but also...

last ep "but you're not alone" "yeah, i know" gwaaoaosoggugghhhh. it's faulkner. it's this stupid fucking kid who's following her lead. following her into the jaws. "without hope or sense for either of us" if it was just her giving herself to the thing that will eat her that'd be one thing. but here's this kid, too young for this to be something he can't come back from. she won't be responsible for it. just. him being part of the reason she had the courage to leave!!!! even if he won't go with her!!!!!

let's kill ourselves. something about faulkner claiming half the crutch when he doesn't need it. you're not turning me into an allegory faulkner...she's not a metaphor she's not a story. she literally is. gruh.

IT ISN'T FAIR TO YOU!!!!!! BABYGIRL MY SWEET CARP IT ISN'T FAIR TO YOU EITHERRRRRRRRR

anathema first appearance and she pronounces it an entirely different way <3 so fun how she suggests they both just fuck off and live alone...she rejoined the faith bc she couldn't bear to be alone anymore but the community was never what her faith was about to her...

"this thing doesn't come with a face you or i can strike at" a thesis statement of the show and yet...they'll all still go on desperately trying...

it really is so fucked that as soon as he learns more about her history he tries to use it against her :( and of course it goes deeper for him than she makes out but she's not wrong either!!

"most convenient vessel" something something promised bride...

SO FIND ME SOMETHING BETTER. SO FIND ME SOMETHING BETTER. SO FIND ME SOMETHING BETTER. TEARS ALL MY SKIN OFF. BECAUSE SHE DID!!!! AFTER EVERYTHING HE'S GOING TO DO TO HER SHE STILL FOUND HIM SOMETHING BETTER. AND IT STILL WASN'T ENOUGH. TOGETHER. YOU AND I.

anyway. roake as a parallel to faulkner, carpenter shattering his corpse and that being what spurs him to attacking her. shattering his ego/self made image. yayyyyyyy.

i love you faulkner hypocrisy moments in script. <3 also "you think...i'll fall in line with your way of seeing things if you raise your voice just enough" broooo you're being a cringe youngest sibling you're making the rest of us look bad

CHRIST I FORGOT HE PUNCHED HER SO HARD SHE LOSES A TOOTH??? FAULKNER YOU SHOULD'VE BEEN BEGGING ON THE FLOOR FOR HER FORGIVENESS GRAAAAHHHHHH

i've already talked about it but "you'll take that boy and you'll eat him up" monologue. ahahahahahahaha. hahahahahah. ha. kms. (i barely have the capacity to think about it with the Everything about this part but i must mention. carp having so so much empathy for this kid. but never mentioning herself and what's been done to her. or maybe she is talking about herself...)

INSTANTLY COVERING FOR HIM 0 HESITATION. HE DOESN'T DESERVE YOUUUUUUU

oh he pushes her out of the way...they really are besties from the start...

faulkner rescue scene is really funny tbh. (skitters out of the mist) FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!! (skitters back into the mist)

officer down 🎉🎉

"I’m not so sure I’m willing to be a sacrifice after all." rip sid wright you would've loved the many below

good lird...such an episode...my siblings of all time...she knows she needs to leave and she wants him to go with her. he thinks he needs to stay and wants her to stay with him. the beginning is the end is the beginning.

[spyrkle4]

This week’s Owl House ep made me go from “I’m cancelling Darius” to “ok Darius has some rights” in 22 minutes wow XD

[loosescrewslefty]

This entire scene was good (And made much better when you rewatch it with the knowledge that Darius never intended to hurt any of the kids) but as a card carrying Willow stan I wanted to make absolutely certain that everyone saw and appreciated this face;

That is all. Thank you and have a wonderful day.

[candydos]

Willow’s baby photos!

she’s such a cute kid omg

[julesyfish]

only three episodes in and i have a new daughter

[willosword]

ohohohoho suworkbook is doing warp tour 👀👀

[lollytea]

Huntlow thought - I definitely ship them and appreciate what we've gotten of them in the show, but I am sad we haven't gotten to see many one-on-one interactions/conversations yet (which I imagine could be because of having fewer episodes in general). Because we of this, I actually slightly prefer interpreting Willow's protective actions in COTH as more just demonstrating how much Willow cares about Hunter as a friend, and having more romantic feelings on her side develop slowly later.

My opinion on Willow's protectiveness in that ep is that it does come from a place of friendship. She would have acted similarly if it were Luz or Gus or Amity. I like to believe (Though there's no real proof) that she has a silly crush on him at this stage, but that does not invalidate that she also thinks of him as a very close friend. I don't like the idea that Willow liking Hunter romantically would make his safety more of a priority then the others. (Although he might be considered a priority because of his current circumstances.) Neither romance or friendship are superior to one another. They're both forms of love. But sometimes they correlate.

Also while I don't believe the scenes themselves were explicitly romantic in nature, I definitely believe people are so into them because of the emphasis. The crew is drawing attention to the fact that Hunter and Willow care about each other. A lot. They are signalling to the audience that this is something important that they should be aware of.

Anyway I can understand wanting more interactions between them but I'm quite satisfied with what we're getting. Sounds like you want a slow burn. Very valid.

But as a huge Willow stan, what I want, what I really really want, is for this mature sensible level headed girl to know a boy for like a week and decide that she's going to marry him. It's just so...teenager-ish and dumb and cute. Willow is so smart so when it comes to something like this, I want her to be a bit of an idiot.

[thesuperiorlokiseries]

*presses nose against the glass* *slides u a cookie* ep 2 time is coming soon.... teaser excerpt?

*snatches cookie and feeds it to the pet dragon*

Ask and you shall receive :)

These bookshelves, these tomes that he knew by heart, they… Loki’d never dared dream that he’d see them again. Yet now that he was here, he couldn’t… they weren’t his, not anymore. They belonged to the Loki that had died the moment he’d let go of Gungnir, not to the poisoned husk that still remained, waiting and waiting and waiting to be set aflame and purged because the universe petulantly refused to get the hint that Loki Odinson was dead, that there was really no point in continuing to puppeteer his corpse for its cruel, twisted amusement anymore. All that this place held for him were ghosts. Loki couldn’t breathe. It was too much to bear.

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[sunset-telepath]

DUDE YOU WATCH TOH WHAT —

I’ve still got a few eps to get caught up on sob but lumity my beloved

also stan willow for clear skin 😎

Bestie I've been watching TOH since season 1

I stan Hunter more myself, but to each their own. Willow is absolutely amazing.

Bored? Send me asks - especially about The Owl House

[hilarychuff]

top 9 albums of 2021

ty for the tag, @chispas-and-broken-bindings! lil nas x stan representation is so important

it was clear beyond any shadow of a doubt that sour by olivia rodrigo and montero by lil nas x were the top two for me, but the rest took a lil more guess work. i typically listen to individual songs and playlists so some artists just didn’t make the cut (shouts to annie dirusso and willow and jensen mcrae from whom i listened to singles on repeat ad nauseam), but other highlights (including some eps, not sure if that’s cheating) were: a touch of the beat gets you up on your feet gets you out and then into the sun by aly & aj, color theory by soccer mommy, pockets by frances forever, triplets by house phone, gaslighter by the chicks, punisher by phoebe bridgers, and public void by penelope scott 

what were you listening to in 2021, @chdarling​ & @ladyinasong​? 

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Lilith came through, we love a growth queen! I missed amity this episode but I’m glad that she’ll have her mentor on Luz’s side. Willow and Gus were perfect and I loved seeing Gus’s dad!!! So cute! ALSO LUZ KICKED ASS like she held her own even against the emperor for a bit and tricked him anyways we stan. Eda and Luz were so cute and I’m glad she’ll have eda as a maternal figure until she figures out how to get home to Camilia, I’ll do a full like thoughts and review on the ep tomorrow when I’m able to pause through it but overall a very solid ending to the season I’m glad it was emotional but not too sad like it was perfect!

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Lilith for the character ask?

Oh boy, a controversial character! Gotta say, I stan James Charles /J

How do I feel about this character?:

On a real note, I do like Lilith as a character. When we first meet her, she's pompous and proud. Oozing with entitlement, she's easy to route against and you like to see her get worked up and "brought down" to Eda's level as the wild which so eloquently put it. Later on, but not too much later that it feels disingenuous, we really get to see her show that she cares for her sister. One might believe it is *Eda* being ridiculous, as far as the audience is aware, Lilith's offer holds little downsides. Eda would be cured and be afforded the luxuries of the upper class AND keep her magic. All she had to do was be the Emperor's soldier.

As to not get off track by talking about Eda, (im sure Lilith herself would loathe that lol) Lilith's reveal to have cursed her sister over a spot in the emperor's coven was...controversial to say the least. I don't think it's unpopular to voice that, yeah. It could've been communicated better to the audience since I saw plenty of commentators and regular fans themselves either thought Lilith cursing her sister was *needlessly* petty and not at all thought out (which yeah it kinda was).

From where I stand on that issue is, yeah, Lilith's whole reason to curse her sister could've been avoided by just talking to her sister and asking her to let her have this. BUT, I think a lot of people forget that the Emperor's coven would want to limit the number of powerful witches in their coven. Sure, Belos would want to be protected by a bunch of loyal soldiers, but he wouldn't want too much of the population to ever have a much power as him. So limiting the number of members in not just his coven but possible in the other major covens, would aid in controlling that population.

This might be pure hogwash but like, there are a ton of other "lesser" covens. So in my mind, it's more likely that the general population of witches gets sorted into one of the various miscellaneous. If you think limiting yourself to only practicing Illusion magic sucks, imagine only practicing whatever the fuck the "swag coven" does.

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Romantic Ships for this character?:

Hm, it's only s1 and we haven't seen her interact w/ many characters outside of her fam/Belos/actual children. I kinda jokingly ship here with Steve lol. Kikimora and her also have a funny dynamic but in all actuality, I don't ship her w/ anyone rn.

Non-Romantic Ships for this character?:

Her and Hooty lol. I mean Eda is an obvious answer but like, Hooty fucking with Lilith is too funny to not want to see. Her and King would be great too, probably get some good B plots out of it. It would be a good contrast since they both can be petty but in different ways and I think that would help flesh out their characters a bit more and maybe cause some introspection (at least on Lilith’s end lol)

Unpopular opinion about this character?:

Lol. I feel like she is such a divisive character in general that most opinions about her aren’t too out of the main stream. I guess a more meta take is that when she’s portrayed in fanworks, usually fanfic but not exclusively, very...one note lol. She’s usually a pretty flat, boring character in an attempt to highlight the contrast between her and Eda. She’s the straight-laced, “responsible” sibling who has a chip on her shoulder. In fanon, that equates to her characterization to either be like, completely and utterly apologetic to the point where it becomes unbelievable for any person to do. Her apologizing or making amends is usually quickly forgiven by Luz/and or Eda. Sure, Luz is very forgiving person naturally but like?? She’s wasn’t mad in canon too much about THEIR well being (almost getting impaled), she was specifically pissed about Lilith betraying Eda. 

So, if Lilith is a big part of your story (and it’s working in the realm of canon), then this should be a problem which doesn’t get resolved by just ONE big action. I also feel like her being on better terms with Eda would come BEFORE Luz since Eda’s main gripe with her would be about her being annoyed by Lilith’s controlling nature and the fact that she didn’t trust her enough to talk about her feelings back when she was first cursed (also her using Luz against her but I feel like that would probably be a hurdle that wouldn’t really be over come until Lilith in turn would be willing to sacrifice herself for Luz while also making an effort to care for Luz as a person not just see her as a “pet”). Hhhh this section is so long and its kinda bleeding over in the next question so-

Something I wish will happen or would have wanted to happen in canon?:

yall if you are still reading I am so sorry sksk

I want Lilith in general, not to be forgiven by either Luz or Eda. Eda probably early on stating about how she is unsure if she could EVER forgive her sister for what she has done. BUT, critically, Eda would see that Lilith is trying and she is willing to work with her (with a unhelpful dose of teasing) because at the end of the day she still loves her sister. For the relationship they had before everything with south, for knowing her side of the story even though she believes it doesn’t justify her actions. She understands and sympathizes, she’s grown a bit softer thanks to Luz, which is very funny since I want Luz to be the one who is the hardest to convince Lilith actually had a change of heart but more on that later. 

Before I move on to what I want her path towards forgiveness with Luz looks like, I want to bring up a parallel that I haven’t seen many people make. Fans always talk about the parallel between the Clawthornes and Luz/Amity, and rightly so because there is a lot to extrapolate there, but I think another interesting dynamic that might be interesting to see in s2 would be an episode that focuses on lost friendship/sisterhood with the Clawthornes and Amity and Willow. It’s kinda funny that Amity and Willow’s friendship was ruined because Willow was too “weak” while Eda was too “powerful”. In a potential episode, it can show the progression both Eda/Lilith and Willow/Amity are making in rekindling their relationship with each other. For Eda and Lilith this would be a lot more rough around the edges since it both be either the first or one of the first attempts at doing so while Willow/Amity would maybe be further along yet still have some major/minor hang ups with one another. With Willow/Amity, their relationship would either be rounding the bend of fully moving past the “idk how to feel about you stage” or it is stated outright that Willow forgives Amity, (and by forgive, I mean in the “we both know what you did, you’ve actually changed. we won’t have the same relationship that we once had but I’m okay with trying again”). In contrast, Lilith and Eda would reach a understanding and come up with some ground rules on how to handle each other (Eda’s main take away from this “episode” would be what I previously stated in the last question), ones that will be more like guidelines cuz its Eda lol. Also what separates the Clawthornes conflict from the Willow/Amity one (besides the obvious) is that the Clawthornes both know how the other works. Which buttons to push and all that so both of them are going to have to learn to resist doing that, at least a bit, in order to actually progress. 

ANYWAYS, I also want Luz to be the one to regard Lilith the coldest. Luz refusing to let Lilith teach her anything despite probably having more practical/book smarts knowledge on magic theory than Eda because she doesn’t trust her. If they are gonna use that masked dude as a spy, I want Luz to assume Lilith is somehow a coconspirator. This plot thread doesn’t have to be going at 100% the whole time, (in fact I would want it to be a temp thing maybe lasting a couple eps at most or like, just something that is hinted at but not dived deeply until the second half of the season). Really, Lilith has a hard time because Luz straight up doesn’t give her the opportunity to really express her regret/remorse. Lilith probably won’t at first give her a ton of reasons to forgive her as she usually attempts at coming back at Luz’s snide remarks with her own quippy comebacks. Sksk a really angsty end to an attempt could include Lilith saying something to Luz after going on a small talk with her (where yeah Lilith has improved but still needs noticeable work) that she “reminds her a lot of Eda” and Luz bites back with something like “Oh yeah? You going to curse me too? You want another person you can force to do what YOU want?”. 

Hell maybe “parental problems” could have Lilith poke at, either on purpose or accidentally, Luz’s feelings about going back to the human world and Camila. Lilith reminding her, maybe unknowingly, reminds her a lot of her mom and that causes her to blow up on her. Luz would hate that comparison, thinking about how similar her mom and Lilith are to one another. That because she still has such a strong dislike of Lilith, it bleeds over into how Luz views Camila and vice versa. In that, both Camila and Lilith value respect, an adherence to the rules, have a great sense of wisdom (arguably for Lilith lol /hj), and (eventually for Lilith once she gets to know Luz better) a genuine want for Luz to succeed and belief in her even though they are critical of her actions at times. Sure Eda reminds her of that more, motherly protective kind of love, in which she would do anything for her to be happy and healthy. Lilith can be the other side of that, the worry and slight doubt. That familiar way they each go about trying to understand and get close to Luz yet not quite getting it yet would still do whatever she’d ask for her sake. Luz at first would take Lilith being disappointed in her actions as an accomplishment. As they grow closer and the more Lilith reminds her of her mom, it becomes scary. The disappointment hurts and in an effort not to feel like that again and to not want to think about the comparison between Lilith and her mother she will snap back at her. Eventually Lilith would then have to change again and reassure her that she cares and by extent, her mother cares to. It is here Lilith is willing to let go of being so constantly controlling and learns to encourage first (or do some form of the compliment sandwich) and Luz comes to peace with her feelings about her mother and understands her position better. To be able to love herself even if she knows that she will always try to do her best. 

oh my fucking god you made it im so sorry i guess i had a lot of thoughts. fffffff