#starfallbluez

[bowserphobia]

That idiot is saying that a grooming victim is lying abt what their abuser did to them? Wow

Worse, they’re playing the semantics game (“sure I groomed a child but how DARE you call me a pedophile”) and saying that even if they did, they’re not doing it NOW, so everyone should just move on, stop talking about it, and let them continue to be in fandom spaces where there are lots of children, I guess.

[pastelbiohazard]

So I have a statement re: starfallbluez/jelly-fish-wishes:

CW: grooming, pedophilia, stalking and harassment

Her and I have known each other for about 6 years. She is one of my closest friends and we've been living together for a little over a year now. She isn't the same person she was when we met and she is DEFINITELY not the same person she was 10 years ago. Was she behaving irresponsibly online at that time, absolutely. However, she was ABSOLUTELY not grooming someone. Grooming and pedophilia mean there would have to be intent to target someone and take advantage of them sexually specifically because they're a minor. There is no evidence of this intent, in fact, she didn't even know the person's age when they first made contact. She treated them like a peer because she assumed they were and didn't think to check, that's not predatory. The messages show me that, after learning the kids age, she tried to make sure they weren't exposed to explicit content. That still wasn't the right move but it isn't exactly nefarious. This does not negate the harm done to a minor being exposed to those kinds of conversations and that kind of content but it also doesn't make Jelly a groomer.

What SHOULD have happened is them both blocking each other and leaving each other the fuck alone and seeking help if accessible. Jelly TRIED to do this, she tried to move on with her life, she couldn't really seek the appropriate help but she left the kid alone and was careful with her interactions with minors from then on. Someone involved kept seeking her and her accounts out and sending messages to those close to her to try to oust her for years. Now as far as I'm concerned, the mistake Jelly made haunts her enough, nobody needs to follow her around online to try to ruin her image over something irresponsible she did as a young adult. Its not heathy for either party, its just really not constructive, and at this point its stalking and harassment. Constantly keeping tabs on her to see if she has changed her name, or is really just trying to use the internet in any capacity, is stalking. You said your piece now block her and her friends and move on because its not good for you to keep this up. Someone should have contacted the appropriate authorities by now if there were that much cause for concern.

There is no proof of this being a CURRENT behavior. She DID take accountability, she accepted the harm she did, she respected the victim's boundaries when cut off, and she changed her behavior so something like that would never happen again. Jelly is not running from anything, she's just moving on with her life. The victim and those around them should be doing that as well. Seeking Jelly out to then relay where she is to the victim does more harm than good already but I can't imagine how harmful it is to them for someone as close as their fiance to be as obsessive about keeping track of her as they are. So just stop, please. Leave Jelly alone, move on with your lives and let her move on with hers. She may have harmed someone by acting irresponsibly when she was younger but she is most definitely NOT a groomer or a pedophile.

[carriioneater]

Goals with this situation, for “Jelly”’s Friends who think her not feeling guilty about grooming a kid is more important than not victim blaming

- Best middle-of-the-road scenario, I’d like to see her make a reply to Pepin’s post if she so desperately wants to defend herself & pin it to the top of her blog, so that people can see what she did and how she interprets it, so that her followers can make the informed choice on whether or not they want to stick around without taking her word on what she remembers doing, bc based on what her friends have said to me she apparently doesn’t remember any of what she did.

It would also be nice to not be blocked so I can actually see it, especially considering she has unblocked the victim & not the people trying to protect him.

- I’d like to see her do a better job of not interacting with children bc she isn’t doing a great job with that especially on tiktok & needs to make a stronger stand on her content being 18+ if that’s the case

- I’d like her and y’all to grow up and stop worrying about her reputation in this situation. Y’all should not care about her reputation if she is as genuinely innocent and safe as y’all are making her out to be. If there is no fear of her re-offending there should be 0 concern about us bringing these things up

- and lastly I’d like for y’all to allow her to be an adult and defend herself. She does not need y’all crying harrassment, she is almost 30 and she needs to stop being so afraid of the 22 year old her victim is now & his support system. He’s brave enough to speak up about her, she needs to be brave enough to get her head out of the sand and recognize that a half-assed apology about how bad she feels does not un-groom my fiance.

[citruzybee]

Hey, I just wanted to say I’m sorry people are coming to that shitstain of a groomer’s defense. Thank you so much for sharing your story and alerting the public. God only knows how many people you’ve protected by that act alone.

And congrats to you and your fiancé! I hope only the best comes y’all’s way.

Hey, friend! It's so sweet you said that 💛

Its alright. I've been sitting with it for years ever since it's happened, it's something I really, kind of expected from fans that idolize her, or close friends she could have magically spun the story to be more appealing. I would like to think my coming out about it will protect others from her, but seeing her tik tok (under starfallbluez) following at 18k, and her making no statement there about her actions makes me anxious for her following. Insanely so. I don’t have as big of a following there to assume people would see it as they did here.

I really appreciate your words of kindness, my friend! It means the world. And thank you so much! We're hoping for only the best ourselves. 😭💛

Something I'd like to add to this reply, that isn't quite related, but is about her is that, even with her public apology only posted on tumblr, on @/starfallbluez - I don't think she actually cares like she claims she does in it. It feels performative, because she went on to her other media's (all under various users of jell-o101, starfallbluez, jelly-fish-wishes, jellyfishwishes101) with the bio, "everything's okay now". I had a sliver of hope that she did care, but given that fact? It just tells me she doesn't. And she's trying to walk it off and act like nothing happened at all. It hurts to see, but I really should've expected it.

But all of that aside, huge thanks for your ask here, it's comforting to know my story is getting around and hopefully makes it's way around thoroughly enough that she will not have a chance to hurt someone else.

[xx-akubara-xx]

Hey I’m a total lurker but I really love your work and art (both Mario and Gravity Falls). Do you know at all what happened to Jelly-fish-wishes? Their account is totally deactivated and I don’t know where to find them on other platforms

Thank you so much for following my works! <3

As for Jelly... Regretably, I do. To keep it short, they've been outed as a groomer.

You can read the original callout blog here and the original Tumblr post here. If you have further questions, please direct them to the victim's fiancé (carriioneater), as the situation has understandably been overwhelming. Their partner has been posting new evidence every other day.

This will be my only post regarding Jelly - or, as they're now calling themselves, starfallbluez.

Given the amount of evidence that has come to light, I no longer wish to be associated with this person. I encourage you to look over the victim's posts in full. This wasn't a simple, one-off mistake. It was a continuous, inappropriate relationship with a minor that lasted five years. And while I understand Jello experienced trauma of their own - and I genuinely hope they heal from that- It doesn't excuse their behavior. Reasons do not equal Excuses.

As someone who's also survived abuse- Mental, physical, and religious alike- and has had close family members who survived sexual abuse- this situation has been infuriating and incredibly upsetting.

For anyone just learning about this issue, I ask that you digest this information with a clear mind and refrain from sending hate or doxing. Support the victim, and block whoever needs to be blocked.

[adorablekittyigirl]

Silly little reminder Pepin: 12 Star: 19

Silly little reminder

6 years ago

Me: Not that type of person who freaks out that is over 5 years

[coffeecat1983]

I'll just say this.

If you still follow or support Jelly-Fish-Wishes AKA

@starfallbluez

Unfollow me right now.

[luigixfanxayjay]

I'm aware that I'm under hiatus, but the post here is important to anybody unaware.

It's about time I talk about my side of this whole Jelly_Fish_Wishes incident.

Jelly defenders, don't even dare flock this post, especially without reading the entirety of it. I've blocked several of you already and I won't hesitate to block more. Leave me alone. Don't make this worse for my mental health.

To anybody simply awaiting my return, it still may take a while for reasons I wouldn't want to explain here. I appreciate your patience.

TW: exposing of famous people (callout), gr00ming, inc3st, emotional manipulation, trauma, depression, religion, vent

So. This all started when Jelly suddenly wiped out all of her social medias. I was devestated about the fact she left so suddenly, because for around one and a half years I loved her content and essentially idolized her the most out of anyone out there. I made (now deleted) fanart and everything. To see all she made wiped out ended up making me depressed as I was very involved in it. She, apparently, left for "mental health reasons", which was worrying for how sudden it was.

Art I made to help myself grieve below.

It was the same for a couple of days until she came back under the name "starfallbluez" (I forgot the exact name so I apologize if it's wrong). As soon as I noticed her account, I reached out to her. She DMed me, and this was where it got the worst. She told me that she gr00med someone years younger than her when she was 19, forcing them into making NSFW art. She claimed the people who called her out were "harassing" her and "calling her names". She said that the "harassment" was getting to her, and that she was planning on killing herself when she was offline before people reached out. She also used her religious trauma as an excuse. I was traumatized and disturbed by what SHE said alone, but I was a strong people pleaser and I was manipulated without knowing. Once I said I was a teenager, she said she didn't want to end up doing what she did again and we ended the conversation by closing the DM. She didn't give me much information of what she did compared to the callout post and I didn't have full context of the incident, so I forgave her. I regret that greatly. Later in the day I see others online upset, and I ended up getting trailed to the callout post itself. It turns out that she was not only a gr00mer, but also an inc3st defender and egotistical manipulator. I was hellishly overwhelmed. I spiraled for several days knowing someone who I once thought was a good person become someone I could not trust. I couldn't even actually read the whole exposing story until days later and I was triggered by it afterwards. I can't see the Mario movie the same again, especially Lumalee and Penguin King. I've been recovering slowly, but that does NOT excuse everything that happened. I am genuinely disgusted. It took me quite the courage to tell everyone here online my side. I am a teenager. I do not deserve this weight on my back. It's hard to explain all of what I'm feeling to everyone. I'm sorry if my explanation is seen as overdramatic. To any other victim (or just anybody affected), I hope the very best for your recovery. It's not easy. I wish this could've been prevented and, to be honest, I wish I never knew Jelly so my mental health wouldn't drop so drastically like this. And thank you to the person who called Jelly out as it was something I honestly needed to know. I'm very scared that people will attack me on this post, but I must be brave. Thank you for reading. See you until then...

[bowserphobia]

it's incredibly fascinating to me that you can have a very small amount of notoriety (niche tumblr mario fandom microcelebrity with an ok comic based on a movie for babies) and people (adults, according to their bios at least) will write paragraph long defenses of you for crossing major boundaries with a twelve year old

[carriioneater]

@pastelbiohazard @candythrills

Ok so hiii ive known the victim, my fiance, Pepin, for 6 years now & I met him after he cut ties with “””Jelly”””.

I’m surprised you’ve known her for 10 years & didn’t know about all the nitty gritty details of this, that’s when everything started for Pepin! Very very interesting to me that many of the folks she knew from the duration of the time my fiance was being groomed by her had no idea Pepin existed, bc Pepin certainly heard a lot about her friends! And her partners! And her sex life. When he was 12-16. Yuck :P

On top of that, she REALLY seemed to be thinking about having sex with & dating this kid! A lot! Like concerningly frequently!

(Also idk why she was drawing the height gap between 5’ and 5’3 like that all the time, Pepin wasn’t even done growing but 5’ on my current 5’6 is like. Chin height. C’mon. You would not be face-first in his non-existent, mid-puberty boobs, girl.)

And meeting up with him!

I hit the image limit so this is just part 1 lol

[carriioneater]

Hi! I’m the victim’s fiance! I’ve known him for 6 years, and I’ve seen firsthand how badly it has affected him & how the impact of her actions has fallen back on him instead of her.

The reason we haven’t gone to the authorities is bc (thankfully) nothing physical ever happened between the two of them, my fiance is trans in THIS political climate, she’s a cis woman, it happened across state lines and it’s been about 5,6 years since it ended, which unfortunately puts it out of the statute of limitations. Why on earth would we go to the authorities when they’re gonna make my fiance relive 4 of the worst years of his life where he was actively suicidal & being GROOMED when so much as looking at the chat history is enough to trigger his PTSD from everything, so the cops can, what? Shelve it? Show up to our apartment & shoot our cats??

“Changing” does not un-groom my fucking fiance or undo the PTSD she caused him. It does not undo how her impact left him vulnerable to be groomed AGAIN by another person right after they cut ties.

When Pepin cut her off she tried every single other social media he had to get a hold of him. You wanna know why I know that? Bc I met him properly the DAY he cut her off & even then I could see he was being groomed.

She knew he was a minor! if you’d actually read the post instead of sticking your fingers in your ears and going “LALALALALA NOT LISTENING” you’d see that

Here’s a lovely little preview of what I’ve been working on, since I have access to their ENTIRE 4 year chat history.

—

screenshot of a Google doc that reads -

[Pepin had sent a NSFW drawing. I don't believe anything was shown but I'm keeping it redacted, as it was drawn when he was a minor]

Y: UUUUM

Y: HOW OLD ARE YOU AGAIN ?

P: 13. (my friends have taught me things.)

P: (*walks out* I feel bad now-)

Y: I’M ONE OF THOSE FRIENDS

—

It’s so great to see that she’s been LYING to your FACE about what she’s done, and you BELIEVE IT! It’s actually a little funny!

I’m “obsessive” to keep my fiance safe from the likes of y’all, who feel that your bestie who GROOMED A 12 YEAR OLD is more of a victim than her own victim.

She can feel as bad for herself as she wants, it doesn’t change the fact of what she did.

Admittedly I’m surprised you can see the chat history, considering she deleted her Facebook ages ago! The only reason I’m able to see it is bc Citruzee gave me the ok to download his Facebook data history so I could put that doc together without having to stay logged into his account literal days before she deleted it! The images she sent to him ALONE are horrific!

Here’s a couple censored screenshots of the images folder for their chat history :)

Please note that 6 years ago, Pepin was 15 (a minor), and 9 years ago (when this all started bc Pepin has a summer birthday & was born in ‘03) Pepin was 12! (Still a minor!)

It’s really buried in there but there’s also NSFW art of David (24) and Max (10) from camp camp on there!

TLDR: The fact you’re comfortable defending her after allegedly seeing the chat history says absolutely everything I need to know about you, and I sincerely hope neither of you have any access to children in any capacity.

So I have a statement re: starfallbluez/jelly-fish-wishes:

CW: grooming, pedophilia, stalking and harassment

Her and I have known each other for about 6 years. She is one of my closest friends and we've been living together for a little over a year now. She isn't the same person she was when we met and she is DEFINITELY not the same person she was 10 years ago. Was she behaving irresponsibly online at that time, absolutely. However, she was ABSOLUTELY not grooming someone. Grooming and pedophilia mean there would have to be intent to target someone and take advantage of them sexually specifically because they're a minor. There is no evidence of this intent, in fact, she didn't even know the person's age when they first made contact. She treated them like a peer because she assumed they were and didn't think to check, that's not predatory. The messages show me that, after learning the kids age, she tried to make sure they weren't exposed to explicit content. That still wasn't the right move but it isn't exactly nefarious. This does not negate the harm done to a minor being exposed to those kinds of conversations and that kind of content but it also doesn't make Jelly a groomer.

What SHOULD have happened is them both blocking each other and leaving each other the fuck alone and seeking help if accessible. Jelly TRIED to do this, she tried to move on with her life, she couldn't really seek the appropriate help but she left the kid alone and was careful with her interactions with minors from then on. Someone involved kept seeking her and her accounts out and sending messages to those close to her to try to oust her for years. Now as far as I'm concerned, the mistake Jelly made haunts her enough, nobody needs to follow her around online to try to ruin her image over something irresponsible she did as a young adult. Its not heathy for either party, its just really not constructive, and at this point its stalking and harassment. Constantly keeping tabs on her to see if she has changed her name, or is really just trying to use the internet in any capacity, is stalking. You said your piece now block her and her friends and move on because its not good for you to keep this up. Someone should have contacted the appropriate authorities by now if there were that much cause for concern.

There is no proof of this being a CURRENT behavior. She DID take accountability, she accepted the harm she did, she respected the victim's boundaries when cut off, and she changed her behavior so something like that would never happen again. Jelly is not running from anything, she's just moving on with her life. The victim and those around them should be doing that as well. Seeking Jelly out to then relay where she is to the victim does more harm than good already but I can't imagine how harmful it is to them for someone as close as their fiance to be as obsessive about keeping track of her as they are. So just stop, please. Leave Jelly alone, move on with your lives and let her move on with hers. She may have harmed someone by acting irresponsibly when she was younger but she is most definitely NOT a groomer or a pedophile.

[adorablekittyigirl]

I am okay .... But something is wrong here recently

So basically, I saw some posts from a victim that made a post, which in my opinion, they would of done that 6 years ago, or just not do it.

This could be sensitive//

Okay, when I was very happy that Star came back, which I call her that, and was hoping that her comic stuff would continue and her Dimentio drawings (which I love so much), strange things happened that took a turn.

A person, which I won't say names, posted of what should of been posted 6 years ago, called her out for being a groomer and a pedophile when they were 12 and she was 19, they sent a bunch of proof, which I did take a look at the screenshots, but am not convinced because, come on, that was 6 years ago, don't you people have brains? I'm not asking the victim if they has the brain because they seem like a sweet person, it's the fiance that I should ask if he has any brains.

Before Mr manipulator tries to do the same for me, I am gonna tell a story that all of this is reflecting on my past almost 5 years ago.

I had no experience of internet stuff when I had a first phone at 15, my first media platform is Deviantart, but 3 months later, which I take responsibility on that, and 2, I was desperate to have a boyfriend, found a person, which he met me first, was a user that we were both becoming friends, and then a day after that, we dated, but a couple weeks later, he knew I was 15, and didn't bother to say his age, but wasn't aware of what a pedophile is, he finally had the guts to tell me he's 24, like after all the time of our roleplays of making out, and he was dirty minded to me in his dreams. I was a bit shocked and didn't mind because I was an idiot.

AM I CALLING OUT AFTER WHAT HAPPENED?? NO

AM I SAYING HIS NAME? NO AM I LETTING HIM MOVE ON AND DO HIS THING IN LIFE? YES!!!!

The manipulator like carriioneater should do the same as I did. I don't know how much of a good fiance he is, I completely agree with the person that commented him, like he ain't a good fiance for letting the victim get traumatized, ain't even letting the victim speak (unless the victim is scared, I get it and it's okay) and worst, if you got Star to kill herself, I WILL REPORT YOU FOR HARASSMENT, VIOLENCE, AND SUICIDE TO A BLOGGER!!!

I feel real sorry for Star beause they can't even let her move on! Her past self even reminds me of my past self, we never experinced online.

If anyone that is a hater that tries to give me hate on here and youtube, I will not give two shits on what you say, I have moderators prepared for this, and for tumblr, you will get blocked next time I come back.

Anyway, Star, if you see this post, I'll be praying, my friends and I will be praying for this drama to end, so we can go back to normal. God bless you.

[bowserphobia]

Candythrills needs to go to hell where they belong ridiculous. How would they feel ig someone told them their trauma is invalid

I’m unsure why that person feels like they need to defend jelly the way they did. Very embarrassing and unsettling if they’re an adult.

Op of the og post blocked me but I’m thinking of maybe dunking that post/jelly’s apology in water when I get home from work and talking about why it’s such a crock of bullshit.

This whole thing has been really bothering me honestly. The idea of a child stumbling upon that defense and thinking to themselves “oh, I guess this sort of thing isn’t that bad” sends a shiver up my spine.

[carriioneater]

As someone who has been affected by Jelly's bs, I hope you and the victim (and any other victims of hers out there) can recover from this. It's very brave to speak out and I wish you the best 💚

We appreciate it a lot! I’m so sorry to hear that she’s affected you as well. I’m hoping that this can help other victims of other people even know that it’s never too late to be open abt what happened to you & that we need to stop worrying about the reputations of folks who think it’s ok to fuck around with kids.

[carriioneater]

as somebody who follows all kinds of cancel culture, all kinds of drama. I'm letting you know now that this will never die down. This will never end now that it's on the internet. Everybody involved will forever be harassed. There will always be people out there who will find a way to make your life, their life, miserable, even months from now. People will involve themselves even when they weren't involved in order to harass either you or them, and not because they care, because they want to be involved, they want an excuse to make somebody feel bad, to hate on them. Somebody will make a video talking about this getting more involved and that will make it worse for everyone. So many will harass you and your fiance because of the 6 years, so many will harass them because of what they did 6 years ago. Nobody will be free, the best choice will be to leave the internet but I don't think any parties involved will. So I wish you the best of luck, but just telling you, that people will victim blame, will make up stories to pretend they are involved, will hunt down and doxx them. This will happen, especially since she was popular in the crk fandom. These things will most likely happen. And nobody will be free.

Ok this is the only ask of this type I’m gonna answer—

Oh yeah sorry my fiance was too afraid to come out abt his groomer for the past 6 years bc of how popular she is, I’ll make sure to keep a pedophile’s reputation & feelings in mind over my concern for the very minor heavy CRK fandom feeling the need to defend a pedophile over her victim, especially after seeing how badly she affected him!

Some of us have lives offline, it’s not our fault Jelly doesn’t. If they wanna doxx a victim for coming out abt his abuser bc she has a big, minor-centric platform that says a lot about them.

This isn’t “cancel culture”, this is outing a pedophile.

[carriioneater]

Now Ive been following this and I was rereading some of your posts and I noticed that one of the things you said is a long the lines of that jelly can't make amends until she repairs the damage don't to your fiances reputation. I don't want to seem rude but I don't recall ever reading anything about that? Did she like tell everybody that your fiance was bad in a earlier post on Facebook or?

The damage to his reputation is due to the normalization of drawing NSFW art as a minor. It got him in trouble a bit before his 18th birthday, and that normalization directly lead to him being groomed by another individual into making a lot more unsavory NSFW art via similar methods. (Watchumafox/Librawolf or whatever he’s going by now is a whole other story, but since he’s had other, much younger victims who came forward first, we decided to let them speak on it & Pepin got his side in on the doc for Watchuma as well.

He’s asked me not to give specifics on the art bc he’s ashamed of it & doesn’t want the wrong type of folks to go looking for it.)

It’s had a very negative affect on him being able to participate in fandom spaces, & multiple MAP hosts & artists whose patreons he’s been subscribed to have kicked him out of projects and servers essentially bc he was groomed, & they believe that the art he had been groomed into making as a teen by two artists he looked up to makes him a threat to minors in the servers.

My main concern isn’t her making amends, though. Frankly I would rather her never contact Pepin or I again. Rn my main concern is her growing a pair and telling her friends to step off, bc she’s an adult who can defend herself.

If she can undo the trauma she caused Pepin, maybe I could consider forgiving her. But there’s not really a cure for trauma during 4 of the most developmentally important years of your childhood is there?