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[farfartothewestofeverywhere]

“I worry about the storytelling. I worry about the logic of it. I worry about the plotting. I worry about the characters. I worry about the story making sense and things tying together.”

Tony Gilroy my beloved 💞

[sudden-stops-kill]

star wars celebration . starwars.com / youtube.com/@StarWars : 4-7 8:30 am et 4-8 8:00 am et 4-9 6:45 am et 4-10 6:45 am et

[fanthatracks]

Star Wars is now on TikTok

Star Wars is now on TikTok.

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Is Jocasta Nu in "Star Wars" an archivist or...a librarian? [Part 3]

Continued from part 2

Of course, those who have written stories with Nu have not realized this nuance, thinking of her as just an information provider and nothing more, nothing less.. Nu is doing much more than what librarians describe as a "reference interview," a way of describing a conversation between a library user and librarian, often at a reference desk, with a librarian explaining to a user's information need by trying to clarify what the user is saying and directing them to the appropriate resources.

Reprinted from my Wading Through the Cultural Stacks WordPress blog. Originally published on Nov. 25 2021.

Nu can be, and still is, an archivist even if she is working in a special library, as she clearly has archival duties, including controlling access to the contents of the Holocron Vault. She also has duties which some might attribute the librarians like helping Jedi find information using the data terminals of the Jedi Archives, said to be the greatest repository of knowledge in the galaxy. Those duties can easily be part and parcel of archival work.

The issue here is that Nu, who is overconfident in the role of the archival records and thinking they are immutable, is treated as an archivist and a librarian at the same time, even those these professions are not the same. The creators easily blended the two together, despite the fact those in each position have different roles, even if they work together. Libraries can exist within archives and vice versa, but libraries and archives are not the same, and should not be treated as the same. To act like they are interchangeable is to devalue the work of archivists and librarians alike, and contribute to misinformation and narratives which result in the loss of funding to archives, and likely even libraries as well.

In the end, I hope that a live-action or animated series within the Star Wars franchise has a better archivist character in upcoming series [4] and doesn't fall into the trap of acting like libraries and archives, librarians and archivists, are the same thing, as some of the fan fictions, which feature Nu as a character, likely do. They never have been the same thing and they never will be the same thing. The professions can surely work together, but the distinctions between each profession are important to ensure that necessary work can be completed, people are paid fairly, and inequities solved.

�� 2022 Burkely Hermann. All rights reserved.

Notes

[4] According to CBR, the upcoming Star Wars: Crimson Reign #1 comic (available starting on December 1) includes a mysterious character known as the Archivist, who is Force-sensitive character, and is recounting the events from the comic from a holocron where she recorded what she experienced, but as CBR notes, " nothing is known about her other than her sensitivity to the Force and her radical belief that there is no difference between the light and dark sides of the Force" with her design seemingly "inspired by Iain McCaig’s early concept art for Darth Maul."

There's also an archivist appearing in the book, Star Wars: The High Republic: Mission to Disaster, which will be available beginning in January 2022, named Lyssa Votz. Starwars.com describes her as a "Jedi temple on Dalna, a human female in her late 20s and a fully trained Jedi Knight" who hates fighting, and is described by Lucasfilm Publishing creative director Michael Siglain as "always forgetting her lightsaber" but often carries a datapad in her hand at all times. So, I look forward to those.

[gffa]

#A WHOLE BUNCH OF PREQUELS COMICS UPCOMING??? Star Wars: Mace Windu. Mace Windu is getting his own Marvel miniseries in January, just in time to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Star Wars: The Phantom Menace. The series, written by Marc Bernardin, was announced along with this cover by Mateus Manhanini. Star Wars: Jango Fett. The writer [Ethan Sacks] behind the Bounty Hunters series, which it was revealed will soon come to an end, will helm the Marvel miniseries that debuts in March. A cover by Leinil Francis Yu was also revealed. Hyperspace Stories with new Dark Horse original graphic novels. A new line of original graphic novels kicks off with new tales featuring a beloved Jedi duo. Qui-Gon written by George Mann and illustrated by Andrea Mutti and Obi-Wan written by Cecil Castelucci with art by Lucas Marangon were announced with covers by Michael Cho.

[fandomsandflyingstingrays]

Mark your calendars, Rebels fans!!

[pinkfey]

starwars.com sucks so bad wtf where are the puzzles where is the trivia where are the games !!!!!!

[sw95ws]

Star Wars: Visions | StarWars.com

[echos-gal]

I REGRET TO INFORM EVERYONE THAT ACCORDING TO THE OFFICIAL SW DATABASE (via starwars.com) TECH IS NO LONGER 6'4" AND NEITHER IS CROSSHAIR

(i typed these out in the notes app with meters to feet conversions)

on the bright side, Hunter is still short king, and Wrecker got TALLER than previously thought

EDIT: i was slightly off (this is why we don't do sleep-deprived math), here's the corrected heights:

Tech is still 5 inches shorter than previously!!!

[probadbatch]

From the starwars.com episode trivia - the best scene in the whole episode was a late addition

[david-talks-sw]

"The Acolyte" wasn't 'woke' propaganda.

I had my issues with the show (you can check out my other posts to see what they were) but there's this notion that The Acolyte was created to spread The Message™ of "woke propaganda"... and I think there's a bit of a mix-up going on, there.

Because that's simplifying things a lot.

When you're a minority, you're not "being woke" when you're just being yourself! Conversely, you're not "writing to be woke" when you're a minority drawing inspiration from your personal experiences to tell a story.

I talked before about how George Lucas implemented elements of his personal life in his own films. In his own words:

"There's no way to write without writing from yourself. Y'know, the stuff gets made out of things that you care about… whether you've actually lived them or not. There are emotional issues that you deal with, and I think that's always a major factor with any writer. I don’t think— it's hard to write without having some kind of emotional connection to the material. I've never seen any reason not to. It’s easy to write that way. It's hard to write in the abstract. So when I write a scene, I write a scene that moves me or I care about, or is something that is personal to me." - George Lucas, Q&A with Lynne Hale, 1994 (StarWars.com)

Any piece of writing worth some salt needs to come from a personal place to some degree because that's where the heart of the story, the truth, lies. That's what an audience will relate to.

Example: The six original Star Wars films are purely George Lucas. As in, everything in those films, from the characters, to the cinematography, to the editing style, etc are all a reflection of who George is as a person and what he stands for:

anti-Vietnam / "fight the corporate & imperial machine"

60s-70s white kid from Modesto, California

single father of three

who defines himself as Methodist-Buddhist,

has an anthropology major and

a passion for Kurosawa,

cinema vérité,

cinema history in general

art and visuals and

car racing.

You see all that in those films.

Same thing with The Acolyte.

Leslye Headland drew from her personal experiences.

Among other things, Leslye is gay. So that's what she uses as inspiration to, for instance, craft Qimir's character motivation.

"I was on the treadmill being like, “What is [Qimir] gonna say?!” And my wife, who is a huge part of my creative process, finally she said, “What do you wanna say? Stop thinking of it like you have to somehow tap into a different guy.” [...] I was like, “I wanna say that people don't want me to exist as a gay woman, as a woman in this particular space, working in this wild sandbox.” There was a whole crew of people who believed in me, but deep down, I felt like, “I am unaccepted for who I am because of what I believe in and wanting to wield my power the way I'd like without having to answer to the legion of people that just exist out there.”" - Leslye Headland, Collider, 2024

She took this specific life experience of hers, and then made it more universal, so that a bigger audience could relate to it.

"By the way, I think everybody feels this way. I think that's why it resonates when you're honest about yourself, and you get personal about it. When [Qimir] says, “I want freedom,” that's what I want. I just want freedom. I want to be able to just be out there and be myself and be the type of artist I want to be without having to answer to anybody." - Leslye Headland, Collider, 2024

Same goes with Osha and Sol's relationship, or how she defines the Jedi Order. It derives from her own relationship with her father and how she felt being raised straight, in a Christian household.

If you have the time, listen to this audio clip where she describes that.

In the context of the whole interview, her voice goes down a few octaves and starts to crack a bit. This is a vulnerable moment, when she's talking about it... and it's this experience that she turned into fuel for her writing of Sol and Osha's father/daughter bond.

"There's this thing that's called benign sexism, and part of it is this paternal protectionism — it seems like this good thing, but like you said, there's this, “I have to protect you from everything. I have to make sure you're okay. I have to tell you what track to get on, and then once you're on that track, I need to support you.” Ultimately, what happens is — again, this is a father-daughter relationship — as women evolve in their lives and develop their own personalities separate from their fathers, at some point, they have to reject that protectionism. [...] She cannot stay a little girl or an adolescent or young adult. She has to, at some point, say, “I reject what you have told me I need to do to make you proud, to follow in your footsteps.” She has to do that." - Leslye Headland, Collider, 2024

Now... if we're talking consistency with the themes in Lucas' Star Wars, then yeah, The Acolyte misses the mark.

The Jedi Order isn't the patriarchy or the Catholic Church. They're more like Buddhist monks, George has stated so multiple times.

The Jedi teachings aren't narratively meant to be the same traits found in toxic masculinity or benign sexism.

When a Jedi tells you to be mindful of your emotions, it's not meant in the "boys don't cry" sense.

When they talk about letting go of attachments, it's not meant in a stoic "don't get emotionally involved" sense.

Anakin too, the whole point is that he's wrong, the narrative frames his fall to the Dark Side as his own fault, it's not meant to be perceived as a failure in upbringing.

But she's not the only one who does it. Filoni does it too, a majority of fans have this take on the Jedi.

And because of her experiences, I can see why her takeaway would be that. Same goes for Filoni, they're products of their generation, upbringing and experiences.

My point is:

Leslye Headland is writing from a personal place, when she's writing The Acolyte. It's partially informed by her politics because - like she quotes, "personal is political" - but when it comes to the writing of the show, it's personal first and foremost.

What this was, was a Star Wars fan (arguably the nerdiest one we've had so far, in terms of creators) putting all of herself in the creation of a show that perfectly reflects who she is and what she stands for, resulting in:

a story about growing past your father's paternal control and accepting that our guides aren't infallible,

where her wife holds a role and gets to wield a lightsaber,

a show about taking corrupt religious institutions to task

about the Sith and the Dark Side

and questioning the unquestionable

and exploring whether the good are really so good and if the bad are really so bad.

This was a project written from the heart, and regardless of whether the resulting art found its mark, I think it's important to note that it wasn't written to spread a propaganda message in some "pro-woke holy war" or whatever the hell the YouTubers are peddling.

[apocalyp-tech-a]

Remember in Season 1, Episode 1 Aftermath, Tech says "I am merely stating a theoretical hypothesis based on factual data?" Well, that's what I did, I made a "logical conclusion." From Lama Su coming back when we thought he was dead to the infamous "domicile," it was all factual evidence that was meant to push us in a direction of hoping that Tech would return and that CX-2 could be the way he does it. I'm not stupid, and neither are you. There's an underlying reason that I love Tech not based on just his handsome looks. I don't claim to have an exceptional mind like him and I don't intend to convince anyone that CX-2 was Tech, but I do want to explain how it could be construed through the way that character was presented as well as the possibility of Tech's return in general, that he could have been and none of us were wrong or "losers" to think so.

45 70 Reasons and more well on the way, lol...

General reasons:

*Tech is never seen actually dying.

*Hemlock being untrustworthy source of death certificate.

*The return of many thought to be dead characters in past Star Wars from Darth Maul who was sliced in half to Lama Su - the door closed on him and we thought he was getting shot by troopers only to show up alive later and this happened in The Bad Batch itself.

*CX-2 is shown walking toward the 'light' after dropping off Omega, symbolically toward a future redemption. @astrovoidy

*Height change on starwars.com

*The word 'dead' danced around on official sites and by BB employees

*the similarities to Winter soldier @on-a-quest

*the cryptic tweets that showcased reborn characters like Gandalf

*The official poster of CX-2 shows him in 'good' light. @eriexplosion AND CX-2 is shown looking up and to the side the way the original CF99 members are positioned and facing in their poster as if CX-2 is also a CF99 member

*other people in professional settings like New Rock Stars on youtube thought the same exact thing as well as casual viewers

*the large focus on CX-2, over multiple episodes

*misleading title of last episode "The Cavalry Has Arrived"

*Tech being smart enough to find a solution

*If Season 2 could be compared to Empire Strikes Back, Tech was taken from us the way Han Solo was, but Han Solo was returned so surely Tech would be as well

*no one expected a main ensemble character permadeath

*the fight with Crosshair music had hints of "Plan 99" in it

*Tech’s whole big conversation with Romar was about culture and memory, and he helped Romar restoring a data repository. Between the implication that Tech would have lost his memories and Phee saying, “Tech’s brain was the databank, not mine,” you could easily see that as foreshadowing for Tech getting his memories back. @heyclickadee

*All the little one line reminders and goggles shots up through episode twelve only serve to make the audience want Tech back. They aren’t closure, they’re reminders of his absence. [Tech never being quite mourned.] @heyclickadee

*The goggles are lit, or look like they’re lit, in every scene they’re in except the last one, which sure makes all those earlier shots deliberate. @heyclickadee *CX-2 could have killed all of them at different moments, but chose not to (shooting pilot instead of Hunter for example)

Physical and character similarities:

*the shrimp posture

*the kick in the fight similar to droid kick in S1E1

*the similar hand to hand combat style

*the shooting accuracy- ipsium cave/ plan 99

*the elegant deliberate movement especially of hands and fingers

*the animated head and body when speaking

*the helmet – even has his hairline @jorolle

*the viewfinder similar to Tech's and utilized just as often

*the pouches(!!!)

*the limberness and agility

*the confident capability

*the crouching/getting on one knee - Tech is an infamous croucher!

*the deviant nature – ignoring orders

*the technology know how

*the flying – some say the turn on Teth was a Tech Turn

*the extraness of tool/weapon twirl

*armpad like Tech's datapad @wolveria

*CX-2's ship has similarities to the Marauder @wolveria

*Tech CC-9902 / CX-2 - both end in 2 @wolveria

*We are reminded this season that Tech was especially good at decryption. What do we see CX-2 doing on Phee’s ship? Yeah. @heyclickadee

*Season two went out of its way to establish that Tech has a high pain tolerance, is a good close range fighter (he won a life-or-death fight with a guy when he had that broken femur), quick processing speed, and is an excellent shot. All skills we see CX-2 exhibit. @heyclickadee

The 'British' accent, speech inflection, pronunciation. and vocabulary (this alone is enough to convince anyone...):

'You better get back HERE." - "I know the girl is HERE."

"The fifth IS Omega." - "The girl IS alive."

"Who are you?" - "Who are you?"

"Naveecomputah." - "Neveecomputah."

"DOMICILE." - "DOMICLE."

Cinematic framing similarities:

*the limping

*the coming out of the water @lilacjunimo

*hooking the rappel hook rappelling down was like dangling off the rail car

*the boulder moving

*helmet viewpoint from CX-2 in finale, only BB members ever had that

Conjectural situations of suspicion:

*the beef with Crosshair

*the constant surviving

*the pausing when choking Crosshair

*the pausing to look at Phee

*The implications that Crosshair seems to know something about CX-2 (he wants to get out of dodge when he knows CX-2 is coming), and the intense lingering guilt Crosshair feels—and which is never dealt with! It’s still there through the finale—implying he knows or suspects it’s Tech. @heyclickadee

*“Whatever they did to you, whatever you’ve done, you’re still one of us,” offered by Rex towards the CXs @heyclickadee

*Crosshair’s character arc this season being partly about realizing that anyone can change and that no one is really beyond saving, which would have continued going somewhere if he thought CX-2 was Tech and considered him beyond saving, but then changed his mind and realized he needed to try. Notice that he does not engage CX-2 in 11 like he did in 7, and that this comes after his revelation about giving people a chance in 9. @heyclickadee

*CX-2 is even more Tech like in 11 than he was in 6 and 7. This implies that he could be starting to wake up, and that almost killing Crosshair triggered that. He doesn’t kill anyone except one of his own guys on Pabu (or Phee) even though it would make his job much easier. He even has Hunter and Wrecker in his sights and moves his aim to not shoot them directly. @heyclickadee

*Crosshair has no way to know that the CX’d clones come out different and that their identities are erased unless it happened to someone we know. In fact, there’s not reason for the CX plot to exist unless that horrific thing happens to someone we know. @heyclickadee

*The first episode of the show starts out with Hunter covering for someone who supposedly died in a fall. In fact, there are direct parallels in the lines: “Where’s the Jedi?” “I stunned him when he jumped. He didn’t make it.” vs “Where’s Tech?” “Omega…Tech didn’t make it.” I’m not saying Hunter was covering for Tech; I am saying that is the only place in the script where we see those phrases matched up. @heyclickadee

*Tech being CX-2 would have fit in perfectly with each member of the batch experiencing a traumatic loss (and regaining) of agency that correlated directly to who and how they are as people. @heyclickadee

Foreshadowing lines:

*More machine than man, percentage wise at least.

*Better late than dead.

*See you around, Brown Eyes.

*Tech's not gone.

*The operative's gone rogue.

*Romar saying he's a survivor and Tech's look at him.

*Don't go running off with any pirates or smugglers. @heyclickadee

Abandoned storyline reasons:

*The romance with Phee, surely it wouldn't be abandoned!? 🙄😡

*CX-2's death being anticlimactic

*The finale seeming rushed and incomplete

*Actors saying there were script changes

*CX-2's accent in the finale was not only not like Tech's as it was in previous episodes, it wasn't even a clone accent (wtf was that) signaling a script change

@wolveria made a great analysis here with her Tech-Genda !

@heyclickadee gave a great analysis here and also great evidence, more in comments!

@vivaislenska has a list as well with some of these points!

@eriexplosion has a great analysis here!

Having said that, here are some reasons it may not have been him:

*Too many characters coming back from the dead.

*The way he says 'clones' in Infiltration was more reg accent.

*Tech's line in the cave to Omega which "was a big one to me” in retrospect: "I am aware that you miss him, but we have to adapt and move on."

As for the intentions of the writers to either have been forced to change the script, but can't admit it due to NDAs or if they truly meant for CX-2 to be Crosshair's foil which to me was unclear, especially with all of the evidence above, I don't know. At least they could have made CX-2 talk and move like a reg. Making him talk and walk like Tech was kind of cruel on top of a cruel we already experienced in Plan 99. I am not personally attacking the writers, I still love Season 1 and 2 and most of Season 3, but I wish I knew what happened behind the scenes with this and I know I'm not the only one. I think this is the last time I'll personally address Season 3 or the finale unless to support other commentators/creators and for my own fix-it and art and writing. And I look forward to seeing everyone else's works as well and hope no one gives up this beautiful Batch or fandom as I almost did. Canon seems done with him, he belongs to us now. 💜

And if anyone has anything I missed (I'm sure I'll think of more myself), feel free to comment or reblog with that addition or a link to your own post and/or I can edit the OP to include it and tag you. Also, don't feel like you can't make your own post about this subject! But I do hope this maybe helped anyone still dealing with the 'aftermath' like me, to know you're not alone, and you did not read too much into it.

(In retrospect, I can't believe they killed him though, lol. What the kriff were they thinking!?! #too handsome to die #too awesome to die)

[kopykunoichi]

CloneX Height Conundrum

Okay, so I initially ruled out Tech as being CloneX because he is clearly the same height as Wolffe. According to my Clone Wars encyclopedia, Tech is 6'4" (1.93 meters).

However, the Starwars.com databank has now updated his height to be 5'11" (1.82m).

Now, I've always thought that Tech looked shorter than Crosshair. But he does have massive feet compared to the other shorter clones, and he slouches a lot. Also, the animators aren't very consistent with how they draw height, so I took the original encyclopedia as fact, despite what my eyes were telling me.

However, if his height has been recanonized as just a wee bit taller than Hunter, the top image still tracks. The fact that his accent is noticeably different from the other clones also lends itself to the Tech theory.

On the other hand, it would surprise me if Crosshair didn't know that Tech went through the program, since he was there too. Also, I'm not sure Tech would beat Crosshair quite so handily...but Cody would have made short work of him. But then there was THAT LINE (you could have been one of us, you chose the wrong side), which could go either way, but it be so poetic if it was Tech.

Ack! I just don't know!

[niobiumao3]

k so in that starwars.com interview they LITERALLY admit they killed him off for stakes and consequences so.

I def don't feel even a little bit bad about calling this bad writing. it's bury your austistics. Straight. Up.

[gffa]

"In addition to the Batchers, now scattered following the events of Season 2, the trailer includes some new creatures and familiar faces, including Wanda Sykes’ Phee, and ends with the shocking appearance of fan favorite Sith-apprentice-turned-free-agent Asajj Ventress. “We love Asajj Ventress. She’s a character that we’ve been wanting to tell more stories about,” Brad Rau, supervising director and one of the executive producers of the series, tells StarWars.com. And he makes clear that her return will honor prior tales, including the book in which the character apparently perished. “We don't want to spoil anything, but want fans to know that any new storytelling with Ventress will align with the events of Star Wars: Dark Disciple.” [starwars.com]

[yukipri]

Beautiful, and fitting.

Cody and Crosshair's meeting as well as final conversation in The Bad Batch, Season 2 Episode 3 takes place in front of the First Battle Memorial, "a commemorative monument in honor to the many clone troopers who died during the first battle of the Clone Wars on Geonosis."

Note that Cody looks at the names both times they're there, but Crosshair does not either time.

Concept art by Will Nichols, previously found in the Clone Wars Trivia Gallery for the Episode, "The Jedi Who Knew Too Much," which is also a fitting reference here.

Sources:

Wookieepedia article ・ Starwars.com Trivia Gallery (no longer linked to the main page)