#there are people who care about sqq and that he cares about and he just leaves them.

[tcfactory]

What do you think about the whole rapist Bingqiu situation? You made a comment about it under one of your posts.

Okay, this is going to be a bit long. The tl;dr. is: I really don't care either way tbh.

On the comment I kinda jumped the gun a bit, because I recently got my hands on the books (finally, they were supposed to get here in December) and I read the extras first, because I haven't read them before and was too curious about them. And I really quite dislike the Wedding extra, but I dislike it because I don't enjoy how MXTX writes sex scenes in general, not because of anything it's about. Is the scene rape? Eh no, on second read Shen Qingqiu never withdraws his consent, despite having a shit time. Having a bad first time w/ shit communication is not a crime, especially between these two idiots.

Would Binghe have stopped if he did withdraw his consent and outright told him to stop? I don't really think so, no. Like, you can say all you want about Shen Qingqiu never being direct with what he wants and playing hard to get and wanting to be coaxed along with this gay shit, but that's something we, the readers, know. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember it ever being established as something that Binghe knows for sure - and with how hot and cold Shen Qingqiu was to him all this time, how he still hides behind his masks even at the end, I don't think "I just assumed you were playing hard to get" is good enough. So the possibility of him hurting Shen Qingqiu despite not meaning to is still very much there. Ignoring the withdrawal of consent is still rape regardless of Binghe's intentions - and we all know how deep Shen Qingqiu can get in his own head when he thinks about denying Binghe something he feels that 'the protagonist deserves' now that he regards himself as the harem stand-in, he would not fight him off if Binghe seems adamant to have him even if he says no.

And honestly that's fine. It's one of those things they need to work on post-canon. You could write a pretty neat hurt-comfort fic around it imo, of Binghe getting so jealous one day that he falls in that pitfall, and the reparations and open direct communication they need to do afterwards. Or just ignore it altogether, let Binghe's protagonist halo prevent any serious misunderstanding in the future. These are characters, not real people. Their dynamic is weird enough that you can just as easily write them a happy post-canon relationship or a situation where their respective habits of hiding their true selves from each other and Shen Qingqiu unintentionally encouraging the worst in Binghe culminates in something awful down the line. Nobody actually gets hurt one way or the other.

[kn-rainbowblood]

I just finished reading Scum Villain book 3 so now you all have to deal with me diving into the fanarts (and crying about Zhuzhi Lang. Why. Why is it always my favorite?!).

I have... OPINIONS on the ending but ok. I can't wait to read the extras and hopefully get some Luo Binghe being happy.

[stardust-falling]

You know, actually, I think that’s part of what makes Bingqiu work so well.

There’s never a moment when SQQ suddenly finds out “the truth” about LBH, that he’s manipulative, that he’s violent, the lengths he’s willing to go to (sexuality is a different story) because SQQ already knew all that about him from the beginning.

And aside from fearing for his own safety, he doesn’t really care. I’d even go so far as to say that Luo Binghe’s flaws are part of what drew him to the character in the first place! He looked forward to seeing the protagonist as ruler of the world! He wanted LBH to succeed in everything!

Obviously he didn’t want people to die if they didn’t have to… but, well, he’s still much more concerned about LBH’s well-being and success.

Basically, SQQ knew all about LBH’s tactics and tendencies and his “true nature” from day one— and despite all that, he still embraced him. Even though they had their share of miscommunication and difficulty, I think that’s just so key to everything— where SQQ is concerned, that’s his Binghe, who he cares about, who he wants to see succeed, and nothing LBH does can change that.

[jade-len]

bad svsss fanfic/au idea: random marriage/guidance counselor transmigrates into PIDW, sees the absolute mess of lord luo bingge and his harem, goes "jesus fucking christ", and makes bank.

and like. they're probably not even that good of a counselor. it's just that people lack any sense when it comes to bingge, and since he's the emperor, that means pretty much everyone. also because therapy doesn't exist. i'll give them some credit though, whatever they hell they're doing works.

now, while sqq and sqh are having a grand ol' time in SVSSS with their husbands, this random, average counselor has to deal with being in the care of lord luo bingge. no wife beam. no anything. all they have is some basic empathy and common sense people just tend to lack in here for some reason.

it's even worse considering the fact that they've arrived after luo bingge completed his plan and became the hailed demon emperor. now, while they've never full on read the entire thing, they've heard enough from a close friend who has kept up with it to know the main character is the literal embodiment of the cycle of abuse and heavy unresolved issues. like, it got to the point where they started to unironically use luo bingge as an example of how to not deal with conflicts and trauma.

really, how could people like bingge? seriously, it's just another edge lord main character with way too many glamorized issues and abuse. red flag! (hey, who the hell is peerless cucumber and why does he keep defending binghe? lord, have mercy on these impressionable young men...)

so, after being kidnapped taken in by bingge and his wives after the bunch claimed that they were a "wise man" or whatever (all they did was offer some basic relationship advice to some poor woman, who turned out to be ning yingying, who told the other wives, and it just spiraled from there), they were deemed "special" and given their personal office and a room! hey, better than being on the streets in this god forsaken hentai-ish world, i guess.

quickly, a routine was established. one that, especially, consisted of luo bingge outright ignoring them. which, they weren't complaining about!

wake up, eat, meet with multiple of the wives, spend their hard earned money on delicious delicacies, meet with more wives, sleep, repeat. the most interaction they had with the demon emperor was him ordering them around, but even then, that was uncommon. it was, surprisingly, easy to fall into the rhythm of this undoubtedly odd life. you're upset that lord luo hasn't spent much time with you? maybe you can ask! the other wives are being annoying? remove yourself from the situation. you're upset that lord luo has so many other wives? oohhh... yeah. uhm.

luo binghe only tolerated them, they knew that. and they're sure that, if not for multiple of his wives insisting on keeping them, they'd be dead for even daring to be so "intimate" with them. a little bit of a shock, if they do say so themself. like, insecure much (something that they'll probably never get used to is the fact that bingge built an entire little village for his wives, though)?

but that's not the most shocking thing, oh, no.

it's this.

"i- i tried.. i tried to take the.. hiic-- other.. other shizun w-with me.." lord luo binghe, the powerful, almighty demon emperor, trembles and sobs. "b-but he! he wanted to-- s-stay with that.. stupid, inferior version of my- hic- self.."

despite the mountain of gold they're getting paid in, is it really enough to deal with this? probably not. will they get killed for witnessing luo binghe's vulnerability? perhaps. is he a dictator, the embodiment of the cycle of abuse, and a crazily vengeful bastard? definitely.

"it's-- s' not.." his voice breaks. something else inside of them probably does, too. "..n-not, hiic- fair."

should they feel bad? they shouldn't. he's hurt much too many people. isn't it a little late? can he even be redeemed? because, they are absolutely not here to try and "fix" him.

and yet.

"can you breathe, lord luo? deep breaths, don't focus on anything else but me, okay? i'll do it with you too. can you do that for me? there, there. you're doing a very good job, do you know that? here, when i'm upset, sometimes i like to do something called, '5-4-3-2-1'. i promise it'll help, binghe. would you like for me to do this one with you too?"

they can't help but think about a small, lonely boy on qing jing peak.

. . .

after that, bingbing slowly starts to come around and develop an actual bond! cool!! he just,,, can't believe only his wives were granted the "wisdom". how foolish was he?

"i know i'm only a mere human, but i can tell that lord luo is... masking things. you can put that away for now, okay? i promise, everything you say here will be confidential information, and it'll never leak... no no there's no enemy spies here-"

"i'm not even going to question this. you go back there right now and deal with it yourself if you cannot respect me or the other clients. aka, your wives."

"no, it's not stupid. this is how people help themself, and it's okay if you want to do it. as long as it doesn't hurt you or anybody. it helps, and that's all that matters."

"oh? one of your wife confronted to you about it? i'm glad to hear that, she's doing well, i see. i'm also happy that you're listening too, really."

"yes, and when something like that happens, you--- no- don't pull out xin mo now. what did we say about that? good job."

"here, can i touch your hands, binghe? there we go. when you're unsteady, you feel the need to pick at your skin, correct? well, let's try a few different things to keep those hands busy! it must be quite stressful being an emperor. how about we start with crocheting! it's quite popular back at my hometown."

"your mother sounds like a wonderful woman, lord luo. hey, how about you take a small break and visit her, okay? you want me to come with you? of course, it'd be an honor."

and thus, the story of the poor transmigrator counselor continues on with luo bingge added to their schedule!! this could be read as romantic or platonic lol. but i was thinking of this as luo bingge obtaining his first actual friend. it takes a long while due to bingge's... bingge-ness, but eventually it all works out lmao

[linya333]

Thinking something on the importance of overcoming self hate in svsss and how hating yourself hurts the people around you.

Sqq hated himself so much for pushing Binghe into the abyss he couldn't even bring himself to apologize. Because if he can't forgive himself? Why would Binghe ever believe a genuine apology?

And Binghe hates himself for being a demon and assumes that sqq must also hate that part of him.

So here they both are hating themselves and assuming others hate them too.

And I think this is the core misunderstanding of their relationship and the book.

Because sqq was sure that if he just died everything would be better. Because he hated himself so much he wanted to be someone else. But dying didn't change who he was. He still wanted to help others and protect his sect and cared about Luo Binghe and wanted the best for them all.

All sqq dying accomplished was hurting a lot of people in a lot of ways. Because all the people who cared about him hated to see that. And so many people care.

And Luo Binghe hating himself didn't help at all because he was just making himself more unstable and therefore violent. Pinning all his hopes and dreams on one man.

So both of these men needed to learn to let the other person love them. And I think that is something that probably took a long time to do *well*.

[sinn-bee]

Hi I'm very fascinated by your dragon svsss au and I got a question if you're still open for them! It's regard SY!SQQ, bc in the first pic that you uploaded of the au he's noticeably more clothed than LQG and in the last comic you made the joke that he's wondering where his clothes are. Now to my question: is this different to how Shen Jiu used to dress because Shen Yuan had some modesty concerns from his former life or did he always cover up more? Or is Liu Qingge just unusually exposed in comparison to the other dragon Peak Lords? Anyway I hope you have a good day!

First of all sorry it took so long to answer your ask oTL (Got busy and distracted)

To answer your first question, SY!Sqq wears the same kind of clothing that SJ!Sqq did, he does feel kinda weird about being so exposed for a while but gets to learn Very Quickly that most everyone dresses like this. So yeah he has modesty concerns but learns to hide his embarrassment very quick because if everyone else is doing it, it isn’t as weird!

Lqg is more exposed than the other peak lords 😂 I’ll get back to that in a second.

SO. Some worldbuilding lore~

“Dragon fashion is designed to transition easily between forms and allow a tail to move freely, and dragons don’t care much about nudity or exposure-

Clothes expand at the waist and are slit at the sides to accommodate a larger, more serpentine form, and come off quickly and easily if you want to get really big.”

-excerpt taken from a dragon au fic my friend Corrin (/ partner in crime for making this au) wrote (it’s not posted yet, it’s Moshang, and it’s part of a zine coming soon)

Draconic peak lords, having ascended to full dragon hood, can shift between forms easily and so as mentioned above prefer to have less clothing that is easier to move around in. Normal draconic cultivators mimic those styles to some degree despite not being capable of shifting forms fully.

So less clothing = Shifts into other draconic forms more often. Lqg likes to hunt and travel and be in a draconic form a lot so he…doesn’t care much for clothing.

Yqy you’ll notice is very clothed and that’s because he just doesn’t ever shift to other draconic forms for sad reasons, and also to cover up as much of his scales as possible.

The other fun clothing headcannons (is it headcannons for an au??) I have are that the style and complexity of clothing also depends on the ranking of the peak and draconic hierarchy. Like Sqq has more jewelry and gems and Sqh has much simpler clothing and no gems. Lqg has gems because they’re a gift from Sqq.

The other reason for being so scantily clad is that draconic cultivation takes a Lot of time and effort, some more so than others, so people who have beaten their way to the top and ascended to dragonhood like to show off their scales and draconic features. Ahem Sj cough cough

Thank you so much for your curiosity! I like being able to infodump about my au especially since posting the comic and art for it takes a while 😅

[asukaskerian]

Been following you since the homestuck days, and I recently got into scum villain based on your reccomendation post. I wanted to ask since you have an overlap in fandoms, do you have any trollstuck headcanons for anyone in the svsss cast? (I don’t have anything solid other than airplane and cucumber seem like they would fit in best with the modern trolls, while everyone else is probably from the ancestor times.)

oh man, no, i didn't think about it at all :( there are things in svsss that wouldn't work out with blood color as caste. shen jiu being a slave and then becoming a peak lord seems like it would be hard to accomplish while hiding that he's a rustblood, for example, and if he were a jadeblood or higher then he probably wouldn't have been a slave to start with.

though if he was hiding it from the start because jadeblood + poor = specialty brothel and then qiu jianluo discovered it and found it Amusing... hmmmm. jadeblood with all its intense motherhood/virgin mary connotations being the caste sj is stuck with could make some quite delightful angst and rage against the irony. he would hate kids twice as hard just to prove that he isn't defined by it.

meanwhile sy!sqq: ohhh the story said he was hiding his blood color and not a REAL indigo, i thought that meant he was LOW but he's JADE that's actually pretty alright. /proceeds to embody every single stereotype about the caste

... then of course you have yqy who's a goldblood with insanely broken abilities but it's rude to show your blood especially in a sect so his shizun had it discreetly whispered that he was a purpleblood who had his fins removed because he cares So Much about the stated goal of cultivation being to go against destiny and it's totally on merit that he's on top and not nepotism or whatever bullshit he could figure out. once you have a golden core who cares about blood color lifespans, so why not have a guy who packs a punch, but also most people don't REALLY think that rustbloods should be allowed to throw off their mortal shackles deep down and you don't want huan hua to flap their mouths too much.

[ineffectualdemon]

"Oh, I haven't yet asked this distinguished gentleman for his immortal name."

The words "Ha ha, this humble one is the untalented Qing Jing Peak Lord of Cang Qiong Mountain, the Xiu Ya Sword, Shen Qingqiu of the Central Plains" veered off course just before they reached Shen Qingqiu's throat.

So close, so close—he'd almost given them his old name. He couldn't think of another name in the moment, and after muttering for a bit, he resolutely said two words: "Peerless Cucumber."

SVSSS Vol 2 p 178

This haunts me

SQQ is fine basing the mushroom off his old face but it never occurs to them that "Shen Yuan" is a name he could use. He is so disconnected from his real life name from his first life

He always thinks of himself as Shen Qingqiu from word go or Peerless Cucumber, taking pride in that identity

Everything that had happened before was as unto smoke. From today forth, as he walked the jianghu, he would use this ID, which had been plastered all over the comments section for years.

SVSSS Vol 2 p 178

How Shen Qingqiu chooses to identify himself as privately and in his own head is fascinating to me and really proves that his life pre transmigration was not as happy as he had painted it

And I know we all make jokes about him being kind of a lazy rich boy but I honestly think if he really did go on an endless honeymoon with Binghe Shen Qingqiu would get depressed

Like even when Binghe was in the abyss he kept busy by wandering around on missions, fighting shit

Shen Qingqiu is someone who has a jam packed schedule but claims they are bone idle with nothing to do

But like hes just out of the ground as a mushroom man and is free to do whatever he wishes and immediately he gets pulled into helping people and being useful

His lack of identity with his Shen Yuan identify and his casual dismissal of that him as a "worthless pretty boy idling his life away" reveals a lot about his self worth

Add in the fact that he is always surprised from this point that anyone cared that he died at all and it really paints a sad picture of Shen Yuan

Maybe he and Airplane have more in common than we thought

[thestormthatrises]

Y'all, you ever just get assaulted by the idea of how devasting it would be for the rest of the world if SQH actually took care of himself, three meals a day and 8 hours of sleep sorta deal? How minds would be blown?

Because like, I have this headcanon that every peak lord has a different kind of beauty, yeah? Like SQQ has this very cold, ethereal beauty. And LQG has this very sharp, intimidating beauty. YQY has this very warm, confident beauty, beautiful big bro beauty. WQW has this rugged and debonair sort of beauty and so on and so forth.

And SQH, underneath all of the stress and sleepless nights, is the most adorable, endearing, cute person in the world. He's that cute that makes people go feral, like honest to God cute aggression.

So can you guys imagine like, let's say that SQH has a minor but very acute qi deviation because of how hard he works, yeah? It's not SJ level but enough for MQF to put his foot down and whisk his shixiong away to his peak and very politely forcing him to be taken care of So SQH can't do anything but rest, eat well, take some sun for that good vitamin d for his depression and chill.

(MQF has some close calls with SQH, of course. Some disciples that need their Shizun back. Some demons that don't understand they can't just teleport in and Try to steal his shixiong away. But because MQF has had plenty of training with SQQ and LBH, he perseveres)

Queue a couple of weeks later and SQH is getting some weird ass looks and doesn't understand why! Is there something on his face? He looks at his reflection more often His cheeks are rounder and pinkish but they look clean enough. Was it because he put on weight? His clothes aren't hanging off of him anymore... But MQF said it was a good thing.

Was it his hair? He thought it looked good. With nothing to do for all those weeks, he had thought That he had managed the bird's nest he had been saddled with. MQF and his head disciple had said it looked nice... Were they lying?

Look as he might, he can't find stuff that's too wrong with his face. So why are people staring at him like that?

....

And not just staring. They're acting weird too!

Like! Like! He went to talk to LQG about his peak going over the budget and the man looked like he would kill him. And then! When he finally managed to get his shidi to agree in keeping the costs down, he smiled, thankfully And LQG punched the table between them, breaking it in half! Like WTF, bro!

He thought they were cool now, after SQQ married Bīnghé!

Guess he was wrong...

Speaking of his son! He was weird too!

SQH'S body had decided to betray him after so many years. Just because he had shown weakness.

He couldn't go three hours without food anymore. Real food too! His adored melon seeds did nothing for the growling beast in his stomach.

Such a traitor! Didn't his body know he had a job to do? Aiya!

So imagine his embarrassment! His shame! When waiting for a weird acting Cucumber bro, his stomach growled noisely near LBH! WTF!

SQH looked down, apologetic, cheeks red with shame, and askes to be forgiven by Junshang.

The look LBH gave him was so deadly that he thought his days were numbered. But when Airplane thought LBH was going to give him the final strike, he merely got up and left his Shishu to wait alone.

Normal right?!

But then! When he was talking to SQQ, who was a lot More bitchy than usual, LBH brought snacks for his beloved. Usual, right?! NO!

For the first time in his life, LBH placed some of the plates in front of SQH! And two cups for the same pot of tea! Bīnghé usually made two pots of tea for them, one with the really good stuff for SQQ and one so and so for SQH!

And people might think he was insane! I mean, maybe the table was small, right? He had to place the snacks for Shizun near the other peak lord because there was no room but NO! There was so much room!

And to top it all off, after. While of just drinking tea, LBH asked why wasn't he eating??? WTF!!

He looked helplessly to SQQ but the traitor just arched a brow at him. Was this some sort of game? Was the food poison??

"Eat, shidi"

SQH had lived a... Life, right?

It wasn't the best life but it had been a life. Who knew it would end like this?

SQH ate the food. It was delicious. The soft exterior of the bun melted in his mouth giving way to the savory meat inside. It was the best food he ever had. It was heaven.

Ok.

He could die for this.

But as he happily ate, he must've done something! Because SQQ struck his head with the guard of his fan, waking him up from his bliss.

"What was that for?" He asked, heartbroken.

But Cucumber didn't answer. He merely grumbled about his stupid face and to just eat and shut up.

Weird, right??

And then he had been getting these-- things! They looked like gifts from his martial siblings but-- but that did not make any sense! They never, ever given him anything but work.

And at first he thought they were normal, yeah? He thought, for example, when WQW had given him a Very beautiful and blessed dagger that he wanted more of the ore that made it and told him he would see what he could do. When he managed to find the budget for it and purchase the ore,his shixiong had the nerve to ask him why he bought it!

SQH showed him the dagger and WQW had the gall to laugh at him and told him to keep it. Like it was a gift or something??

WTF??

But worst of all! Worst than all this weird crazy nonsense, was his king!

If MBJ had been needy, demanding, and spoiled before, it was nothing compared to now.

Now, MBJ demanded his full attention when they talked, looking him dead in the eye like he was trying to pick out a lie. Or when they sat, he pulled SQH to his lap like he was going to run away. Or get made when those weird not-gifts started to pile up in his house.

He had the sneaking suspicion that his king broke some of them too.

Aiya!

And because SQH'S body was a traitor now, not only did it need food like all of the time, it needed sleep too! He was now falling asleep on his king's lap all the time. So rude!

He tried to get MQF to deal with this weirdness but his shidi only said that it was normal.

And then patted his head! Like... Like--like he was a kitten or something!

WTF?!

[peerlesscucumber]

I said this on my twitter and want to put it here too:

People who say SQQ doesn't love or is forced to be with LBH seriously irk me. SQQ literally risked his life and died two times for him and it was only after he was done his mission of fixing the story and the system stops bothering him for good that he can finally let his feelings show.

It just took him awhile to realize LBH actually did love him because he only knows LBH to be conniving and charismatic from what he read in PIDW not to mention the system is always on him about doing things so it leaves no room to do things autonomously. Only when the system is gone can he finally settle into his feelings.

How can you say SQQ is not in love with this man when he is openly admiring him while talking to someone and they're sharing loving gazes at each other? That he is so moved by LBH's devotion to him in the deep dream extra that he initiates affection because he's so in love with him. How he's always commenting about how beautiful or handsome LBH is and gets shy around him? He's willing to protect LBH even if CQMS doesn't want LBH there. He told him to go where he is welcome and he will go with him whereever that is. He was excited for the story of PIDW ending and his story with LBH beginning.

Shen Yuan is an unreliable narrator, but the shift when the system isn't on his ass to push certain plot points and he can be fully autonomous with his life is very clear. He openly chooses to go with LBH. Not out of obligation or he forced but out of true genuine love. All through the story he has shown himself to love and care deeply for LBH, his LBH, the one who shifted from the stallion novel version, the one he shaped and came to fall in love with. Once all the miscommunication became untangled and settled did clarity come to SQQ that he loves LBH, that he could say if they die together he's okay with that because at least they would be together and he is at peace with that. After he dies the second time and activated the self saving system to wake up again who is he looking for first? Luo Binghe. Free from the system, completing his mission of fixing the story, he goes to the man he loves, not caring what the other peak lords have to say. He is unashamed and fully ready to embrace his new life by LBH's side.

Tell me that man doesn't love LBH one more time!!

[chuckduckling]

No character is a stranger to being vilified in fanfic (for the sake of a ship, a plot contrivance, whatever), but when Yue Qingyuan is vilified by making him into a controlling and pushy yandere, it's always kinda funny to me.

Because I'm pretty sure any time YQY has to force anyone to do anything, especially Shen Qingqiu, he breaks out in hives. This man has had "parentified peacekeeper" baked into his bones since childhood — I mean, he was a child slave who coped by taking care of the other child slaves, it makes sense to me.

Hell, this was one of YQY's defining moments in the main book, supporting Shen Yuan as he left with Luo Binghe! (also, does anyone else get "SY craving daddy’s approval before running off with the local bad boy" vibes…just me...okay...)

More rambling (and screenshots) under the cut...

I mean, arguably, YQY's biggest canonical flaw is his inaction when Shen Jiu is abusing disciples. Scenes that involve YQY and SJ arguing, such as the brothel scene, or when SJ was interrogating Shang Qinghua, don't actually have YQY using his authority to make SJ do anything.

In fact, the brothel argument ends with YQY acquiescing to what SJ wants, promising to help cover the whole thing up, and even assuring SJ that he'll keep Liu Qingge silent!

Every time YQY pushes past SJ’s “stay away I hate you” boundaries, it's also never motivated by control or disregard, but rather, it comes from anxiety about SJ's well-being. For example, when YQY takes advantage of the annual spars to bother SJ, this is what he's dying to talk about:

And considering how we saw SJ shut down SQH when he was trying to help him out, after LQG misunderstood him, well…it's not entirely unreasonable to assume that if SJ is in trouble, he won’t ask for help. I mean, the whole reason YQY went to the brothel in the first place was because he was worried SJ was being bullied, and he was going to Qing Jing to help him!

However, this is not to say that anyone has to see these as good excuses or justifications for pushing boundaries. If you find YQY's pushiness frustrating, regardless of the reason, who am I to tell you your feelings are invalid?

But from what I see in the text, YQY normally defaults to respecting SQQ's wishes, and when he acts to the contrary, he's motivated by very specific worries about SQQ's well-being — not a desire for control.

I do find YQY to be a flawed character, but sometimes...his vilification in fanfics...it just seems to be making things up, to the point that I'm like, who is this controlling authority figure??? Where did the real YQY go, the guy who assures outsiders that he'll definitely punish his subordinates, and then turns around and talks to them about dinner plans???

I'm honestly curious what other people's thoughts are, because I do feel like I've come across this criticism of YQY's behavior in quite a few fanfics, and it always throws me off.

[mooncheese3]

yueliujiu anon here saying if ur too shy to answer my last ask -- it's ok! but also, if you have any more yueliujiu thoughts pls feel free to dump!! id love to hear them 🥺🥺🥺

OH MB MB THATS MB IT WASNT THAT I WAS SHY THAT TIME I JUST HAVENT BEEN CHECKING MY NOTIFS AT ALL LIKE

GNNGHAGGG MY BAD

ANYWHO HDNFN yeaa :DDD u are the anon in mermaid qijiu reblog :DDDD genuinely cant stop thinking about them now also im totally gonna join yqy weekend now that i have been made awareRAWGRH SPREADING THE YLJ AGENDA

thoughts on how lqg is so used to having a big family and how hes never worried about losing their support vs qijiu whose longest familial bond has only ever been each other and how they always worry about losing that so they try their damnest to tie themselves together (and this doesnt always translate well)

idk what theyll do about that i just know that hurts and it hurts good

but also small-town!sv au wherein yqy is the mayor, lqg is a newly transferred cop, and sqq is the local librarian & part-time language tutor (also a retired criminal investigator)

basically 'beyond evil' vibes where lqg is investigating a case gone cold, aka the qiu massacre thing. SO LIKE. hes following a lead everyone else deemed outlandish, but the thing is his instincts have never failed him before, and those instincts are telling him hes on the right path

it just so happens that path leads right to a little town up in the mountains, whose mayor is a charismatic man named yqy. yqy is kind, thoughtful, and just. he smooths problems out quickly and can manage many things at once. right beside yqy is sqq, the only flaw lqg can find in yqy

sqq is an acidic man. the mayors wrapped around the guy's finger and the mayor himself doesnt care; he knows too much, is what lqg thinks. lqg notices sqq's aversion to fire, notices how his stare lingers on flames that burn too close. he notices how sqq easily lockpicks the libarary's door when the rust in the lock finally overpowers the key, how sqq seems to be hated by all yet is frequently hired by the parents who gossip about him. lmy tells him over the phone that if sqq really were the suspect, hed have been around 16 when the qiu massacre happened—isnt that too much?

despite agreeing with his sister, he cant shake the feeling that a teenage sqq would be capable of it

(SPOILER ALERT BC I CANT HELP IT SJ WASNT THE ONE WHO STARTED THE FIRE THAT KILLED EVERYONE--THO HE DID KILL A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE--IT WAS YQY. SQQ IS JUST COVERING UP FOR HIM AND PAINTING HIMSELF AS THE SOLE TARGET BC HE FEELS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT AND BC THATS HIS QIGE!!!!! NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO HURT HIM!!!!!!!!

additionally to sqq he feels that qht deserves to at least find peace in finally "figuring out" why her family died in such a horrible way and getting justice. she was innocent after all. so if that means he needs to rot in jail for the rest of his life he'll let lqg do his job and finally close the qiu case

yqy is less than pleased btw. he tries to take suspicions off of sqq but it just makes it worse)

idk how the plot goes i just need some enemies/you-can-tell-theres-tension-between-them-but-they-never-argue to lovers action

[badass-queer-couples-battle]

Sword gays showdown, round 0.5

Propaganda:

For Liu Qingge:

Warning for spoilers, He’s the War God of Bai Zhan Peak basically the original sword gay in the world of SVSSS, whether or not you ship him with Shen Qingqiu, Luo Binghe or neither the point still stands that he’s a draw his sword first ask questions later kinda guy. Also SQQ basically canonically calls him a pretty boy, what more do you need 

He's one of the best swordsmen in-universe! According to the author, he's not interested in a relationship so he's canonically aro and possibly ace as well!

For Kurogane:

He's been practicing swordplay since his dad started teaching him when he was a kid, and inherited the sword Ginryuu that's been in his family for generations.  He now uses his skill with a blade to protect the people he cares about, and is considered the strongest swordsman in his country.  He once cut off his own arm with his sword to save the life of the man he loves, and honestly isn't that just Peak Sword Gay?

he's over six foot & his sword is almost as tall as he is, his husband (technically not canon but by god the queer subtext is h e a v y) is an immortal vampire wizard twink whose life he saved by cutting off his own arm, he's a family man first & a mass murderer second, he's that one tumblr post that's like "it's not my fault my love language is acts of service & all I know how to do is kill", he is the most mentally stable member of his traumatized little found family & he's doing his level best to drag the rest of them up with him no matter how much they (specifically his husband) might kick & scream about it

[danmeiconfession]

This is my unspoken feelings about SVSS.

I mean, if we want an entire list of people in the SVSS world that SY doesn't really care about because they're fictional characters:

1. Zhuzhi-lang, who like, cared about him and died... yes, it was complicated, but seriously, SY, the guy was practically a simp for you. No tears? 2. His disciples that...aren't Luo Binghe? I mean, does the guy even teach? 3. All the girls he tries to throw at LBH because he thinks owning women and feeding them sexually to a sword is okay if it's Luo Binghe doing it? 4. The Palace Master, who NICE LBH turned into a human stick. NICE LBH. > And yes, the guy deserved it! ... Or did he? What level of serious crime merits human stick-ness, instead of just straight out execution?

But, you know, that sort of thing is normal for the xianxia world, so it doesn't matter! Also, they're all fictional characters!

And okay, if he treated the entire novel like a fiction novel, you could get away with it...except he's clearly humanised Luo Binghe. So...?

(Even if beating your disciples is super xianxia world too... so only bad stuff that happens to Luo Binghe matters? I mean, SQQ is railed on for whipping Luo Binghe and locking him up in a woodshed, but he basically dismisses neighbouring Liu Qingge's training practice of showing up on Baizan, beating his disciples to a pulp, and buggering off. Which of these is the worst corporal punishment for a cultivation student?

It's an honest question because we can't compare student experiences to tell if LQG beats up his students worse than SQQ whips them, but it's the kind of statement that makes you go...huh. So if this is what this world is like, SQQ's actions are kind of...sucky, but not objectively terrible when compared to the xianxia world standard? And Luo's Binghe's experience may not be objectively more terrible than the average cultivation student on certain peaks. Hell it might even be mild! Unfortunately the novel didn't give us enough real content to judge consistency...

Like a lot regarding Shen jiu and what we think of him is based on others perception of him and the audience as well. I can't get a good read on him because of that but he's honest perfect angst fic potential lol.

Yeah.

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[shuriken696]

//I'm legit should be writing my fic rn but this is getting to my head.//

Has anyone ever thought of an AU where when SQQ is dead, his soul via self imploding, goes to Ghost City?

But the way that it's been transported is a complication. A Sun and Moon Dew flower is a 'rare plant' after all. You can't just come back to life that easily.

Hua Cheng just looks at Shen Yuan who is confused af as to why he was in front of a throne. He knew that Shang Qinghua messed up on the SMD Mushroom but he didn't think it was that bad!

"Fuck, am I actually dead? Is this Hell?" Shen Qingqiu asks Hua Cheng. He tries calling on to the System but it was to no avail.

"Daozhang is a curious case. His stay in Ghost City is only temporary only when his 'plant' is fully ready is he able to go." Hua Cheng tilts his head. He did not expect something so unexpected to happen today. This soul didn't even turn into a ghost flame upon meeting him! He just came fully corpreal like it wasn't even a problem at all.

Well, at least Shen Qingqiu isn't fully dead if that counts as anything. He would be able to come back. His plan would work.

But, PIDW had never mentioned anything about a Ghost City, or any description of the man in front of him!

PIDW was more extended than just the novel? Or was it a deleted outline that Shang Qinghua robbed the readers of?

"How long would that be?" Shen Qingqiu had to get back as soon as he could. What if Binghe got mad at someone else now that the scum villain is gone? "Can I leave this place? I need to be somewhere and it has to be as quick as possibe" He figured that maybe he could float around and haunt people like they showed in the movies?

"I can't allow you to do that, Daozhang. It's against the rules." Hua Cheng raised his eyebrows. This man refused to rest in peace even though he had sacrificed his life for his disciple.

Or was he just like Hua Cheng, refusing to rest in peace until he reunited with the one he loved?

"That man who you sacrificed your life for, what is he to you?" The Ghost king asked. Shen Qingqiu pulls out a fan from his sleeve.

"He is my student. The sword's influence on him was too much so as the one who was responsible for all of this, I had to repay him for the faults I did." Shen Qingqiu answered easily.

Hua Cheng wanted to snort. With the way he's answering, this was more than just a Master-disciple relationship. But if the man didn't know, then he wouldn't tell him. It was more interesting this way anyways.

But for the sheer fact that this cultivator wanted to go back to the man he sacrificed himself for (or what he could assume by reading in between the lines) Hua Cheng couldn't help but see himself in him and respecting him, just a bit.

"I can get you a good place to live while you're residing here but daozhang hasn't told me his name?"

Shen Yuan bows.

"This humble one is Shen Qingqiu, Peak Lord of Qing Jing Peak of the Cang Qiong Mountain Sect."

There was more to 'Shen Qingqiu' that met the eyes, but everyone had their own secrets. As long as he didn't mind Hua Cheng's business then he wouldn't pry into Shen Qingqiu's as well.

"And I am Hua Cheng, the ruler of this city."

Oh shit, I was talking to the leader this whole time?! Shen Qingqiu wanted to smack himself in the head for messing up that badly. Of course the man who was sitting on the fancy throne would be of high status!

Shen Qingqiu bowed again, apologizing for his lack of manners earlier and Hua Cheng waves him off.

"It's alright. Daozhang didn't know."

After that, Hua Chang and Shen Qingqiu became somewhat friends and HC tells SQQ about him trying to find Xie Lian.

(In between that, Wei Wuxian also pays Ghost City a visit, but thats a story for another time)

Years after Binghe and SQQ are married, they find Hualian on a crossing path and Hua Cheng just looks at Binghe and then to Shen Qingqiu.

"Does he treat you well?" Shen Qingqiu hid a smile behind his fan. He didn't think the Ghost King cared that much.

"He's alright. When I saw you, I never thought he and I would get together."

Meanwhile Binghe is so confused. How does his Shizun know this man thats reeking of resentful energy? Why is this man holding hands with someone who had pure energy? Is that even possible?

His Shizun had some explaining to do later!

[komaneko-kun]

honestly i love every shen yuan trans hc I've come across so i kinda hc as every identity ever lol but for today I'll share my personal favorite one (?? which i relate to a bit bc i love to project

so thinking about shen yuan who was transmasc in his original life, even tho he's wealthy, and his family is loving they don't rly support him in that sense, and he dies and transmigrates before he can medically transition. He had complex feelings about getting gender envy from binghe and also feeling attracted to him, which he completely suppressed bc he didn't want to "seem like a straight girl" and he wasn't gay either, no way, he just admires binghe.

his username is also a way of compensating dysphoria and an easy way to get people to gender him correctly online, he also feels weirdy understood by airplane (who is also transmasc) which he will never admit, there's little hints here and there in pidw about how he views gender.

when he finds himself in sqq's body (i like both the idea of sj being trans or cis) he feels quite comfortable and at ease since he passes here and sqq's identity is respected. but despite all of that, when the wife plot starts hitting him he feels dysphoric again, which confuses him bc he's supposed to be "fine" now but these roles being forced on him make him uncomfortable. After the novel's events tho he slowly starts rediscovering femininity and the wide range of roles he can take, and he realizes he actually doesn't hate the idea of being binghe's wife, he accepts his own motherly instincts and stops repressing his complex feelings about gender.

sqq realizes he doesn't really hate the idea of being any gender in particular, but rather having it be out of his control and it being forced on him. When he realizes that, he's free to accept himself however he feels like being that day, he also develops a very "mix and match" attitude with gender, doesn't really care much about labels just about what makes both him and binghe happy. sqh is relieved that he's finally laid-back about it, but still teases him

bonus: transmasc binghe isn't the most popular but he's very dear to me, i like to imagine sqq teaching him everything he learned in his previous life