Miraculous and Redemption
You know, I think I understand what my issue is with this show’s stance on redemption. It’s not specifically who gets the redemption, even the hypocrisy of who does or doesn’t get redemption/forgiven is only one part of the issue.
It’s specifically how they treat the characters who don’t get redemption.
I have seen, in media, where terrible characters who’ve done terrible things get a redemption, and the mean characters, who are just mean, don’t change at all. That’s fine! People are complex, some change and some don’t, some have done horrible things and some are just school yard bullies. It’s fine to showcase this, I mean hell, in the Owl House, Boscha was still an asshole in season 2, and this was past the point that characters like Lilith were forgiven (Lilith isn’t really terrible in Season 1, she just has done a lot worse than Boscha)
Miraculous’s massive issue with this, however, is that the narrative/the authors treats those mean characters as worse than those characters who’ve done horrible things.
I mean, what other media has one of the creators say that some high school bully is comparable to Trump when her literal rich, corrupt, politician father is right fucking there?
Usually the media where a terrible person is redeemed and the mean character isn’t doesn’t treat it as a moral issue. It’s not “oh well this person can’t change” or “oh this person is even worse!” It’s usually “they’re mean, and that’s annoying, but oh well”. That media never treats the character like Satan incarnate, or treats their meanness compared to actual villainy as a moral issue. When characters are around them, they aren’t treating that mean character as literal scum compared to the former villain, the narrative doesn’t treat them as more than an annoyance or, for lack of better words, “small fry”. I mean, while Owl House acknowledged that Boscha was still a prick in season 2, they didn’t act like she was worse than Belos.
Miraculous treats Chloe and Lila, some petty, mean teenagers, as the literal devil compared to other characters. Lila is a master manipulator who somehow convinced 3 people she’s their daughter and has a trillion disguises! It doesn’t matter that that twist came out of nowhere, and it makes it a little weird that this teenager has multiple disguises that she uses around the city apparently, one where she looks like a 20 year old, making people theorize she’s an adult because how on earth is she smart enough or resourceful enough to do this. Chloe is a villain comparable to Gabe, even when she was a hero! Her backstory doesn’t justify any of her actions, but for literally everyone else, we are going to justify their actions! If they don’t do that, they’ll just sweep their actions under the rug completely! It doesn’t matter that she’s consistently being manipulated by the fully grown adults around her, she’s terrible don’t think about it! She neglected her father somehow (???????????????????) so it’s fully justified to send her off with her abusive mother! We aren’t even going to acknowledge that Andre literally had a part in raising her and her turning out this way, because somehow he did no wrong!
And what sucks is that it’s succeeding at making those characters appear that way, because some fans are completely genuine when they say that Gabriel is more sympathetic than them. I mean, if you frequent the Reddit (which you absolutely shouldn’t, one way or another it will melt your brain), you’ll consistently see character rankings with Gabriel, Lila, Tomoe, and Chloe in the same category. Somehow the show put the bullies in the same categories as the literal abusive terrorist and his helper in these people’s eyes. You will constantly see these literal teenagers be put on the same category as adults who have done infinitely worse. Even Andre, who is a corrupt politician and terrible role model and literally RAISED CHLOE… is “woobified” by some fans, even going as far to say that Chloe abused him! Nevermind how that would even be possible when she was like, 5-7 when her mom left! I can’t point my fingers at the fans for this though, because the show goes out of its way to place all of its sympathy on the adults, even when they don’t deserve it, EVEN WHEN THE PAST WRITING LITERALLY PAINTS THEIR ACTIONS AS BAD
(It also doesn’t help that the fully grown adult’s actions are all forgiven but god forbid you’re terrible as a teenager, then you’ll get sent off to live with your verbally abusive mother while your basically deadbeat father adopts your half sister literally right after wiping his hands of you)
I will talk about the hypocrisy in redemption at some point, and how bias and forgiveness is handled, but godDAMN, this sucks
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I personally hate the “pudding” joke. That’s my personal “busty Asian beauties.” As someone who’s been on a psych ward, it’s like, that’s how the show sees me?
Yeah that ones gross too.
I will probably never watch an episode of SPN again due to finale trauma, but I will watch with great interest as new generations find it and discover all the really gross really stupid and sometimes really disturbing shit in it.
Remember when Dean wanted to fuck a dog?
Remember when they put a black woman in a dog collar and made her be the servant, familiar, and sexual partner of her white master?
Remember when Dean cohersed born again virgin and former porn star into sex because he exposed her past?
Those are just off the top of my head!
Supernatural had some fucked up moments, but at least most are left in the past. The way the actors still seem to think "Busty Asian Beauties" is a funny joke leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. It wasn't funny years ago, its not funny now. Give it a damn rest.
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I've just realized that despite Carmilla whole pseudo-radfem ideology, throughout the entire show we only ever see one woman being specifically targeted and oppressed partially due to her gender and that's Lisa.
Everyone are either Sypha, but she's not being persecuted due to being a witch, as in something only a woman could be suspected of being, but because she's a scholar, and scholars are comprised of both genders, or male characters who are mostly being tortured, violated or both by female characters (or in Alucard's case a male and female at the same time).
Muh hypocrisy I guess? :/
Literally couldn't even do something as cliché as showing sexism in a medieval setting, you have to actively try to be so bad as show don't tell
Friendly reminder that Carmilla has a whole tragic radfem backstory of her being abused by an old man, and we don't even see that, we only see the moment she killed him in all of her #girlboss glory. And Striga and Morana sit there and talk about the nightmares she has WHAT NIGHTMARES?????
But yeah. The radfem angle is so shallow and boring, and doesn't reflect the setting. Carmilla speaks of a world where women are put on the fringes of society, but most women are portrayed as being fairly badass, competent and respected, with only Lisa being a genuine victim of the bigotry of the time. ... of course, this would be the time where I point out how cruelly emasculated two certain feminine male characters were :)
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i have a doctors appointment at stupid o'clock in the morning, yet here I am, crying at 1:00 am about a musical abt six dead theatre kids.
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