#this is about yuri and yaoi btw

[poicyss]

"we are breaking down gender roles by making the women coded word emotional and making the man coded word brash 🥰"

[silencedrowns]

you know what could really do well with a new anime that actually adapts the entire manga because it was so ahead of its time?

Claymore.

It’s got incredibly sapphic coded borderline monster girls with swords the size of their own bodies, extreme body horror (and I do mean extreme, it’s one of the only series to ever make me feel remotely squeamish from body horror), tons of action, conspiracy drama, characters willing to die for each other, a majority female cast… it is exactly the sort of thing 2020s fandom would go insane for, but the manga ran from 2001-2007.

It deserves another chance in an era where fandom is no longer full of fucking cowards.

(it’s in the Jump app if you’re in the USA and this sounds appealing though!)

[anonymocha]

Bluepoch gave us the gift of barely-subtext tragic sapphic-centric media do NOT throw that away.

Context regarding PJSK and Undertale under cut.

Project Sekai cast is dominated by female characters but mlm is more popular, meanwhile Undertale has canon wlw rep and oh my god they’re at the bottom. I have nothing against these fandoms or media (I’m literally currently/was in them) but yeah. I just HOPE r99 doesn’t end up in a similar state.

[desolate-flame]

im feeling so fucking insane about daisira and jonmartin parallels rn basira basically already lost daisy (or her version of daisy/the daisy she knew) after the unknowing while despite jon not being Himself (human (though this is another can of worms i wont open)) after the coma martin was able to get to know the actual jon for the first time during the safehouse era and beyond but regardless both basira and martin were in love with people who were already dead and withering away, who could not return to their old selves, who were destined for death . basira will forever be waiting for someone she know cannot return and martin will forever be cherishing a version of someone he knows he will lose ARGHH

[sillyfudgemonkeys]

Have ya seen or read either delicious in dungeon or frieren? I dunno how you feel about refan these days but I figured some popular fantasy series would give ya a chance to get more into the genre/setting/etc

Dungeon Meshi.....aka the anime with a very yuri coded scene being blasted all over the internet? .....of course I'd watch it. 8U Give this himejoshi a good yuri or shojo-esque scene and there's a good chance I'll be all over it! <(˘ ˘ ˘)>

(Narrator: this didn't apply to the one Yuri bait scene in MHA with Himiko and the floaty girl)

Tbh I got a bit spoiled on it (between the bath scene, and the thing that directly lead to needing the bath scene that looks like it was a scene outta that Locked Tomb novel I need to finish XU). But tbf, that spoiler did get me interested. And I am liking it!

Plus that main genre of that anime (fantasy adventure) was something up my boyfriend's alley so I figured he'd enjoy it too. And he did! And we're now waiting for the next ep. Marcille is my(/our?) fav I think.

Frieren I've heard and seen stuff from it (one person I follow was reblogging a lot of both). I kept getting it confused with DunMesh tbh. We checked out the trailer but......it's didn't grab either of us. I'll look a diff trailer later to see if it gives us more info on what's going on. TT0TT

We just finished Hell's Paradise (those last few eps may have caused me to start shipping Sagiri and Yuzuhira pretty hard u_u alksfjdl) And we ended up starting....Mashle, only watched the first ep but it looks promising!

That's in the fantasy genre too I think (tho it seems more like a comedy)? I wanted to watch it cause I was interested in the char designs (kept seeing them with Tamashii figures).

Anyway thanks for looking out for me anon with those recommendations! If you have any other's I'd love to hear them! ^_^

[caracello]

it is kind of whiplash for my mind ffor the two main crushes at the forefront of my thoughts rn to be Da‌rth Vad‌er from St‌ar Wa‌rs and also That One Mean Coach From Gl‌ee.

[hakiarleon]

thinkin about my oc hours again: canonverse retsu, captain of the lilias knights circle, sister-in-law to the current viscountess sion.

— wedding greetings.

“You can’t rely on the Viscountess’ generosity forever!”

But I can yours? Retsu thinks, but does not say. She must be nice, because the Vice Captain is standing right outside the door ready to deliver her to the Lord of Lilias’ terrible, terrible, unending lectures the moment she missteps. She already apologised for playing hooky, can’t he let her off just the once? But no, he’s standing vigil with a goddamn vengeance, and she’s stuck in this stupid soap opera of a life.

You can’t rely on the Viscountess’ generosity forever. As if she ever has. If anything, it’s Arleon’s shoes she’s been licking, and loudly at that. Then again, that’s why she’s in this situation, isn’t it? Why she’s been in this situation, again and again. It really is so hard being such an eligible bachelorette.

Because the Lady of Arleon is getting married.

Because Haki is getting married.

“Probably not,” she says instead, hiding her scowl in a demure sip of stale tea. If Dorji’s trying to poison her like this now he better have given her guest the same treatment.

Alas, Lady Silk’s tea remains untouched. The prim composure that she wore into the room has chosen to abandon her, leaving her with a furious frown so starkly different from the condescending smile that she first greeted her with.

She kind of gets it. Someone of her stature probably isn’t used to being refused - worse still by another’s discarded goods. The title of Captain can’t quite obscure the truth of her identity, Arleon’s guard dog and runaway and whatever else.

“Even so,” she adds, just as the lady’s lips part, “I’m afraid I’m quite comfortable where I am.”

There’s a resignation letter in her desk drawer, but she doesn’t need to know that.

Well, she’ll find out eventually, Retsu thinks, watching her storm out of the humble greeting room, her attendant scrambling to keep up. Dorji glares at her.

She gets her revenge within the hour, slipping out while he’s buried under the piles of paperwork she’s been neglecting that are too urgent to wait on forcing her to work. Hah.

There’s a resignation letter in her desk drawer, and Dorji will be the first to know when it’s time. Even she can admit the poor guy deserves it.

Tucked under it, unopened, is the wedding invitation.

Haki had delivered it in person.

She’d known it was coming. Was flattered, even, to see Haki here, to know she’d come all this way just to let her know, because Wistal is more her home these days than Lilias. Well, she probably had to be here, anyway, official business with Makiri and the Countess and all but- it was nice. To see her. To have her near, as if this meant nothing.

Haki is getting married. She’d known it was coming. It still feels so sudden.

“Oh,” she’d said, bland as even Haki can’t make her not be. “That’s good,” she’d tried, because it is. The Countess must’ve been ecstatic. “Congratulations?”

Haki had smiled, that patient, familiar thing. “I wanted to tell you myself,” she’d said, like it was a secret. Like it was the most obvious thing in the world.

Before she left (left her behind, left her office for the last time because without her here there’s no point to Retsu being here either, to clinging to the nearest thing she can find without asking for something she doesn’t deserve), she had asked what Retsu wanted.

Because Haki was going to be Queen and it was not the King’s choice alone. She is happy. She wants this.

Retsu’s never wanted much. Peace and quiet sometimes, the ruckus of the training hall and the bustle of the city other times. A home to come back to. Haki, close as she’s always been.

(Take me with you, she does not say.

She could. She could.)

Lilias is cold and unforgiving and so very far from Wistal, even though it had been just far enough from the Arleon estate.

Haki is leaving, so she will, too. The other way.

It’s not some eternal farewell, but when she sees her off, all the way to the city’s edge, after she’d spoken to Makiri and the Countess and whatever other business she’d had to tend to (long gone are the days when Haki’s business was her business, yet it aches like yesterday) - she feels something break.

She hands in her resignation after the wedding. The way Makiri instantly curses her out almost cheers her up. Dorji breaking down in tears screaming, “Fucking finally!” does not. Rena’s crying is even worse for how utterly sincere it is. Really, you do a good deed once and you never hear the end of it.

Haki of Arleon is crowned Queen Consort. Her sister’s generosity will have to serve her for now.

[milimeters-morales]

listen. when i make a post about miles and gwen dating and being girlfriends it’s NOT the same as whatever ppl who actually ship them or what the movie directors are doing. trust me.

[starfoxyaoi]

falco x fox is yaoi but wolf x fox is yuri no i will not be elaborating..

[snowisflesh]

where am i

[scn-thedog]

nuh-uh actually they should get together IF THEY DON'T I'M GOING TO CRYSO BADLT OH MY GOD

[piosplayhouse]

Hi! I came across a post complaining about the guy yuri poll and discourse aside, I vaguely remember you made a post about what is yaoi and what is yuri? I dunno if I dreamed this post up, but I've scrolled and scrolled and I can't find it. So, I wanted to ask (if you don't mind answering >.<), what is yaoi/yuri? (beyond the basic definitions) What counts as guy yuri and girl yaoi?

Uwaa ok so I will say Im planning to actually write a paper on this but I haven't done much research yet so ask in a few months and you'll hopefully have a better answer with cited sources. But here is a bit of what I'm conceptualizing at this point (corrections and additions very welcome!)

What set me down this path really was of course the fantastic Yaoizine hosted by tshirt3000, which includes a rather poignant author's note about broadening the definition of yaoi in public to the abstraction. Indeed, the actual origin of the term "yaoi" is an acronym for "yamanashi, ochinashi, iminashi" (plotless, climaxless, meaningless) from 70s doujinshi spheres wherein it was used as a somewhat self-degrading term to define a specific type of porn-without-plot self-indulgent indie fancomic. These were of course, mostly of the male-male variety. However, as the Yaoizine makes clear, there's not really an inherent gendering within the word in any sense but genre expectation-wise. This becomes particularly salient in the case of perhaps one of the most famous wlw romances out there, Revolutionary Girl Utena. Tshirt cites an interview with the creator of the anime, Ikuhara Kunihiko, where he refers to the relationship between the two main female characters (among other things) as yaoi, recontextualizing the term from merely a mlm genre into a statement on the dynamics of power and consumption as they relate to gender-- an act of sexual passion paired with a reversal of societal norms = yaoi in this case, which is why utenanthy fits perfectly within the term.

Conversely, yuri (lily) is a bit more difficult to analyze from a gender-neutral perspective as it originated not as a counterpart to yaoi, but instead as a counterpart to bara (rose, a term used to refer to erotic gay male content) used when lesbians would write in to gay magazines trying to hook up and whatnot. However, it's pretty agreed upon that the genre grew out of Class S literature, a type of literature based on girls, often senpai and kouhai, going to an all-girls school together and experiencing a connection that straddles the thin line between romance and homosociality. Homosociality like this among women has historically been and to this day remains somewhat under the radar and perceived as a "phase" or an amateur attempt at romance before a woman eventually marries a man. This is where we see significant overlap between pre/early modern Japanese male homosexual literature and lesbian literature, where homosexuality is seen as a youthful phase that will inevitably be grown out of (as in the case with the chigo system, LUG (lesbian before graduation), etc). Essentially, it was very common for the characters of early modern queer literature (mostly written by queer authors btw) to have brief and passionate schoolyard flings before graduating onto "normal" sexuality. Of course, these narratives fell out of style and are considered dead today, but their remnants can still be seen in the subsequent shojo and modern gl manga boom. The yuri that grew from this in the beginning was usually explicitly erotic, but still somewhat held onto the predominant themes of schoolgirl innocence and youthful beauty. Over time, meanings and terminology shifted, and the "yuri" we use today is more interchangeable with "gl", meaning it's not so much of an indicator of explicit content as "yaoi" is. However, I would still argue that one of the largest indicators of a story's "yuri factor" (if you could say that) is its ties to the establishing homosociality progressed into homoromantic relationship genre expectation. Of course, there are many wlw stories that subvert this, (as there are many mlm stories that subvert the yaoi or even bl template) but to me, if you were to compare yaoi and yuri's theming, yaoi's focus tends to skew more towards the intimacy in explicit eroticism, while yuri looks more into the implicit eroticism in intimacy. If that makes sense.

Of course, when looking into "boy yuri" there's also a transfem-coding factor to consider, which I think is what the majority of people have in mind when they refer to a couple as "boy yuri". Historically, there is massive precedent for feminization between male queer couples in historical Japanese literature, as well as in early modern relatives of bl, mainly Inagaki Taruho's work, so it would be somewhat disingenuous to say feminization is a purely modern, female-created phenomenon. But anyway, those are my (somewhat messy and likely inaccurate) thoughts so far, let me know what you all think. Have a happy yaoimas and merry new yuri, as they say.

[warningsine]

Old man yaoi this and old man yaoi that WHERE is my old yuri movies????

God forbid women get older and remain sexual beings.

Regardless of quality, the following films are about middle aged and elderly lesbian/bi/trans women (not all of these revolve around romance btw, many are documentaries):

Silent Pioneers (Short 1985), doc.

Nitrate Kisses (1992), doc.

Forbidden Love (1992), doc.

Last Call at Maud’s (1993), doc.

Not Just Passing Through (1994), doc

Tender Fictions (1996), Barbara Hammer's autobiography.

Murder and murder (1996), middle aged not elderly.

Late Bloomers (1996)

Between Two Women (2000)

Hand on the Pulse (2002), doc.

The Hours (2002)

My Mother Likes Women (2002)

Ruthie and Connie: Every Room in the House (2002), doc

Sunset Story (2003), doc

No Secret Anymore: The Times of Del Martin & Phyllis Lyon (2003), doc.

The Page Turner (2006)

Finn’s Girl (2007)

Ten More Good Years (2007), doc

Black./Womyn. (2008), doc

A Place to Live: The Story of Triangle Square (2008), doc

Hannah Free (2009)

A Horse Is Not a Metaphor (2009), doc

Edie & Thea: A Very Long Engagement (2009), doc

For 80 Days (2010)

The Owls (2010)

Gigola (2010)

Cloudbirst (2011)

Gen Silent (2011), doc

Out Late (2011), doc

Les Invisibles (2012), doc.

Mommy Is Coming (2012)

A Perfect Ending (2012)

Vic + Flo Saw a Bear (2013)

Tru love (2013)

The Passage of Time (2013), doc

Rebel Menopause (2014), doc

Before the Last Curtain Falls (2014), doc

Advanced Style (2014)

Female Masculinity Appreciation Society (2014), doc

Kate Bornstein Is a Queer & Pleasant Danger (2014), doc

Freeheld (2015)

Grandma (2015)

MAJOR! (2015), doc about Miss Major Griffin-Gracy

Stuff (2015)

Black Mirror: San Junipero (2016). Everyone has seen this one, I know.

The Pearl (2016), doc

Etage X (Short 2016)

The Personal Things (short 2016), animation about Miss Major Griffin-Gracy

Marguerite (2017)

Chavela (2017), a doc about Chavela Vargas.

Wild Nights With Emily (2018)

The Favourite (2018)

Happy Ending (2018)

The Heiresses (2018)

Love Letter Rescue Squad (2018), doc

A Great Ride (2018), doc

Obscuro Barroco (2018)

Monica – Loose on a Cruise (2018), doc

Two of Us (2019). A fave of mine. Deeply humanistic and touching.

Time & Again (2019)

Madame (2019), doc

So My Grandma’s a Lesbian! (2019)

Uferfrauen - Lesbian Life and Love in the GDR (2019), doc.

The Archivettes (2019)

A Month of Single Frames (2019)

Forgotten Roads (2020), doc

Naomi Replansky at 100 (2020), doc

T11 Incomplete (2020)

The Aerialist (2020)

Mama Gloria (2020), doc, Gloria Allen's story.

Rebel Dykes (2021), doc.

The Affair (2021)

A Secret Love (2020), doc.

Surviving the Silence (2020), doc.

The Mistress (2020)

Your Mother’s Comfort (2020), doc about Indianara Siqueira.

A Wild Patience Has Taken Me Here (2021), middle aged not elderly.

Genderation (2021), doc.

Nelly & Nadine (2022), doc about two women that fell in love in a concentration camp.

Sweetling (2022), doc.

All the Beauty and the Bloodshed (2022), doc about Nan Goldin.

Nyad (2023)

[obstinaterixatrix]

okay I was talking about this with a pal and, to take what’s mostly considerer a joke to unnecessary degrees of analysis,

when folks talk about ‘girl yaoi’ and ‘boy yuri’ it is A Very Personal Definition Of What These Terms Mean To You etc but genuinely and sincerely I do believe genre conventions and thus the lens that these stories come through can be kind of conceptualized as yuri’s emphasis on distance (absence of yuri anyone) (thanks miyazawa) and BL’s emphasis on desire. so like there’s ‘desire to close *distance*’ and there’s ‘*desire* to close distance’ and the difference in emphasis is what affects the ‘vibe’ so to speak. and on the flip side, denial of desire vs pursuit of distance.

and it’s very gendered because it exists in a gendered context—yuri’s roots in the Class S narratives and heavy emphasis on ambiguity (and to some extent, transience/impermanence) (:|) is obviously because women were (and still are) held to a certain standard/expectation of restraint.

meanwhile, BL as a genre has roots in smut and taboo (I always do feel the need to note that the genre has shifted over time to be more mindful and respectful of like. real actual gay people and that a lot of the reinforcement of societal bullshit is a mirror of the issues in TL and josei smut because it’s similar artists/audiences) and there’s this… recursive loop of ‘society is more accepting of male desire than female desire’ and ‘female authors push the genre because male desire is easier to conceptualize/explore/market’ which is especially interesting when considering that, as far as I’ve read, folks consider BL as a genre started & initially explored by queer women before getting the reputation & association with straight women (akiko mizoguchi has some papers floating around but what I *really* want to read is this book that was published… either for or in association with a museum exhibit a couple years ago, but it’s only been published in japanese…)

so with yuri it tends to be more conventional to have those more introspective and ambiguous tone (though less so transient, which is nice) (we’re also excluding f/f hentai from this conceptualization btw). but that’s not to say there’s no yuri that more directly confront desire or has more high energy narratives, sal jiang is like. THE heavy hitter in that regard. (also zeniko sumiya’s witch/witch hunter series carries the energy, which makes sense because she writes BL). but most of it I think ends up as doujin and other online publications rather than going through traditional publication channels because publishers aren’t as interested as expanding yuri as a genre the way they were willing to expand BL as a genre because it’s harder to define an audience for yuri. but also it’s harder to define an audience because publishers limit it (hanamonogatari… you deserved better…) anyway I got distracted. the point. the point is. help me with yuri duty or get out of my way

[origami-boat]

(this review is going to be shorter than i would've liked because of the character limit, if you want my actual unfiltered thoughts on this magazine you can find them in this mega folder.)

let's start with the review:

i don't know how this is being sold in bookstores so casually. it should be banned. it shouldn't have gotten greenlit in the first place. i don't understand what horrible people agreed on publishing this horrible magazine made by horrible creators.

don't pick up this magazine ever. it was the worst mistake i've ever made. my biggest regret, probably. i'm going to try and explain my reasoning here, even though it should be obvious.

concept (3/10):

so...i don't really understand the themes. the first volume is supposed to celebrate the creators getting married 100 times? which is...really disturbing and distressing. why would they share it with other people? shouldn't they be embarrassed? but i guess it is something...why did the theme shift from "marriage" to "god" in the second volume? what happened during these 101-200 marriages? actually, looking at the reviews of the first volume, i don't get why they released a second one. clearly there is no demand. i'm hearing rumors that a third volume's in the making, too...do they never learn? literally everyone is telling them to stop. nobody is asking for this. it's just annoying. but that just goes to show how self centered and selfish the creators are, i guess. and indecisive. because what will the theme even be? what even is the point? why not just quit...?

design: (4/10)

pretty simple. i don't have any notes on this one. it is misleading, though. it's so average, like they're trying to trick you into thinking this is an average zine. a normal zine. it really isn't.

memes: (6/10)

cute kitten pictures are the only tolerable thing about this whole magazine. the four points are for the project sekai meme and the chainsaw man meme. those were not funny. the rest is fine, i guess.

writing: (1/10)

i'm giving it one point because i'm generous, it doesn't actually have any redeeming qualities. from the very first pieces you could tell that the author has gathered up all the love they have ever felt before and put it in each and every word. imagine this: you're drinking tea, and you accidently put two spoons of sugar instead of one. disgusting, right? too hopeful. too full of love. too raw. just thinking about it makes me shake. what the fuck is wrong with the author. in an ideal world, i would've wished for them to find a better therapist, but i don't think any therapist deserves to go through that. they should just die, maybe...?

art: (1/10)

no redeeming qualities again. yes, i know, i'm too generous. in this case it's actually so vile i threw up several times. too joyful. too intimate. again, too much love. what is with this magazine and love? aren't there other, better things to celebrate? not to mention, i've seen the artist say some pretty weird stuff before. like how they enjoy...yaoi...i know, that's so fucked up...they're really fucking evil and unsalvageable. death is the only solution for what's wrong with them, whatever that is.

final rating: (2/10)

i can't bring myself to rate it any lower. i feel kind of bad. even after all i've said, i understand that the creators didn't choose to be born this way, you know? of course, i don't think they can get any better, so...i just wish they would disappear as soon as possible. make the world a better place.

hope this review helped. don't waste your time and money on this thing, it does more harm than good (it does not do any good, really). go enjoy something else.

for those unaware this is for vol 3 of yurimag!! it’s a zine i make with public enemy number one @impastopesto it’s the worlds top magazine that celebrates yuri of all kinds. part one and part two are available for free on my itch.io account: haunted-oyster

this is the general vibe of the zine btw

[animentality]

Do you like horror movies? I've recently become obsessed with the Saw franchise (less so the actual torture porn of the movies - more so the fun queer fandom headcanons and toxic yuri + yaoi)

I love horror!

Horror was my bailiwick before I got very into sci fi and fantasy.

I'm a bitch who loves intense emotions, and the soul rending shrieks of a person, at their wit's end, abandoning all pretenses and human airs, and becoming their most base, instinctual self.

Horror is great for that sort of thing.

As for SAW - I actually LOVE Saw.

I think 1 and 2 were honestly brilliant and didn't deserve the ratings they got! They're way more clever than anyone ever thinks!

The first Saw twist was actually brilliant, and not enough normies know that it really wasn't just torture porn from the beginning. The escape room thriller, murder mystery element was present too.

Now later Saws kind of became torture porn, but.

I adore 1, I think 2 is awesome and Amanda's haircut is transcendent.

I have seen 3 and 4, but didn't like them that much. I think I saw 7, but I'm not sure, and I definitely saw Spiral and 10 in theaters...

Spiral was bad, but 10 was the only Saw movie to have an actually respectable RT score, which is honestly kinda hilarious, when you think about it.

Ooh, and I loved it, btw. Can't recommend it enough. Really wonderful human story...about sadistic murder traps being inflicted on healthcare scammers.

So in short, YES.

I love horror.

Torture porn doesn't do much for me, but the villains are reallllly cunty and that makes them soooo much fun to talk about. I have a soft spot for the Saw fandom. They're pretty chill, in terms of fandoms.

Also, that iconic post

saw fans are the best.