#transabled discourse

[sophieinwonderland]

Alright, y'know what? I'll bite. You cannot be transautistic. Autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder that not only causes behavioral issues but also other physical setbacks, including digestive issues, sleep disturbances and sensitivity to stimuli. There are specific differences in an autistic brain that vary from neurotypical brains that you will never, ever achieve, no matter how hard you try. I don't know why you would want to live with a disorder that actively makes it so you have to puppet-show yourself through social situations because NTs don't understand that autistic people struggle with picking up on social cues and with masking because if they even try to be themselves, they're shunned. Autism, especially the higher needs you get, is very difficult to live with. You cannot transition into a neurodevelopmental disorder you do not have for whatever reason. Whether it's for the 'aesthetic', because you 'feel' autistic, you already have 'physical' autism or whatever. All the reasons why someone might 'identify' as transautistic are null and void. You can either be autistic or you can be not autistic. By identifying as 'transautistic', you are actively harming people who actually have autism by: - invalidating their experience as autistic by making it seem like it's pleasant to have/an aesthetic - invalidating their experience by showing you do NOT take it seriously - invalidating their experience by allowing bigoted neurotypicals to accuse actually autistic people of faking it or being 'transautistic' and therefore pushing their progress back on research and receiving help and support for their condition

I'm sorry if the reason you're 'identifying' as 'transautistic' is because of some kind of trauma. I get it. But you cannot be 'transautistic'. It is inherently harmful to actual autistic people. If you're experiencing atypical dysphoria, that's different and worthy of receiving help for. We support people with atypical dysphoria. We do not support the faking or romanticization of autism.

This is beside the point, but aren't a lot of those physical issues you listed things that are just caused by normal stress? The digestive issue, sleep disturbances, etc?

Anyway, to your point...

I don't know why you would want to live with a disorder that actively makes it so you have to puppet-show yourself through social situations because NTs don't understand that autistic people struggle with picking up on social cues and with masking because if they even try to be themselves, they're shunned.

I don't know why people with BIID would want to remove their limbs.

That doesn't make these feelings any less real though.

There's a mistake I think people make a lot where they assume that the brain and its wants and desires inherently have to be rational. The truth is that human beings are rarely rational actors.

Personally, I agree that ASD is neurodevelopmental disorder and that you can't actually transition into having it in the same way you can transition to a new gender.

At the same time, I feel like the alleged harm is largely overblown.

- invalidating their experience as autistic by making it seem like it's pleasant to have/an aesthetic - invalidating their experience by showing you do NOT take it seriously

This comes down to the mentality of the individual.

Look, we're autistic. Our autism causes us a lot of problems in life.

But it also gives us a unique perspective of the world, and we wouldn't be who we are if we weren't autistic. While there are some things about ourselves that I wish we could change, I don't wish we weren't autistic.

Putting aside that dysphoria is often not something people choose to experience, I personally wouldn't have an issue with with neurotypicals who looked at the pros and cons, and wanted to be autistic like us. I think that would be pretty cool.

Feeling invalidated by this is a personal matter.

This is also the same exact logic I've seen used by TERFs, transmeds and sysmeds alike to try to argue that it's bad to want to be a woman/transgender/plural.

"You want to be like us but haven't experienced the pain we did so it makes us feel bad."

And I mean, this sort of emotion is valid in its own way... but that doesn't make it rational.

And to me, it feels more like self-inflicted harm, where a person's own outlook is what's actually responsible for the distress, rather than the actions of others.

- invalidating their experience by allowing bigoted neurotypicals to accuse actually autistic people of faking it or being 'transautistic' and therefore pushing their progress back on research and receiving help and support for their condition

As someone who regularly stalks r/fakedisordercringe to screenshot and use them as content on my blog, I've never seen them actually fakeclaim people by calling them transautistic.

I don't think this is a thing that actually happens.

If someone is going to accuse you of faking, you're far more likely to get accused Munchausen's.

Which, by the way, has been happening for a LONG time.

I just don't see an uptick in fakeclaiming of disorders related to transabled people

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And since I mentioned TERFs, they also have been making similar arguments. They've suggested respecting the identities of transwomen would somehow setback feminism, but this hasn't happened.

While disabilities aren't genders and comparing them too closely can be dangerous, I think what history shows us is that a lot of these sorts of arguments tend to be more fearmongering than anything else.

Just as trans rights didn't setback feminism, neither will a small group of transautistics online somehow setback research into ASD or support for autistic people.

Regardless of people's opinion on whether transautism is valid, I think it's important for ASD advocates to keep attention on real issues that face the autistic community instead of a small niche group on the internet with little to no power or impact in the real world.

[the-prettiest-corpse]

"all transIDs are harmful!!!"

My alter, Ember, is transfieldmedic because her best friend in her source was one and she wants to be one to remember him.

I'm transambulatorywheelchairuser because I need to sit almost constantly because of my chronic leg pain to the point I feel like sitting is more natural.

I'm translesbian because I hate having so many beings I'm attracted to due to being pan and hyperromantic.

We are transendogenic because we don't enjoy the harsh talk a large amount of the traumagenic community uses against them and thus don't want to be associated with them

Listen to the reasoning behind an ID before you judge. You don't want others to assume things about you so don't assume things about others.

Note: ok I just gotta say I absolutely love this god damn -🔪🫀 (the post wasn't made by me the sign-off is just for the note)

[everafter-life]

“Disability aids should be free” until a transabled person wants to use one

Minor quick edit: If you are against this sentiment, i would be perfectly fine with calmly and politely having a discussion on why you disagree! I won’t try to change your opinion, and will just say why i believe what i do, i will answer any questions too! I have been very much on and off tumblr so i may not reply for while, so thank you for understanding.

[radinclus-not-radqueer]

Radqueers are a cult.

I am a cult survivor, I have been one far before I was in the radqueer community. As a cult survivor, the radqueer community IS a cult. If you've never been in the community, and have only been an outside observer, it's understandable that you wouldn't realize this, but claiming radqueers are "just assholes" is a slap in the face to people like me who have been permanently traumatized by them.

Here is a commonly used model of how cults work:

If you go through every single point in this, the radqueer community checks almost every one of them. People have already pointed this out many times before, however I will explain it again for people who haven't seen those posts.

(Skipping over ones that don't fully apply or that I haven't personally experienced. Most of these are pretty brief because I don't think anyone will read an entire essay for every point)

Rigid rules - radqueers force you to include everyone and everything, and never question what you're accepting lest you get labeled as "not a real radqueer" and harassed. You must accept any and all predatory relationships, or you'll receive the same treatment as "antis". If that isn't "rigid rules", I don't know what is.

Rewards and punishments - you coin a term people like, or make an "I love pro-cs" post? Everyone likes you, praises you, sends you asks telling you how amazing you are! You dare to question anything about the community? You get cast out, banned from servers, harassed, sent death threats, and doxxed.

Dependence and obedience - radqueers make their victims believe that this is the only community that will accept them. They say that every other community will hate them for their identity, and this is the only "real radinclus" community. This causes people to feel trapped there, or in other words become entirely dependent on the community for validation and support. They convince people that if they leave, or do anything wrong that causes them to be forced out, they'll have nowhere to go. This forces them into obedience for fear of being left all alone and being completely abandoned.

Deception - this one is very, very obvious. There's a reason why radqueers label themselves as "radically inclusive", "pro-consent", "pro-bodily autonomy" - they are not just saying these things because they don't understand what they mean. They're intentionally using uplifting, inclusive language that sounds really great and supportive to deceive people into joining them. This is also why they use emoji codes, so other radqueers will recognize them but people who don't know what radqueers are will be lured into their trap.

Propaganda - pretty similar to the above. They label everything as "radical inclusion" and tell people that they have to support all these things to be "truly inclusive". They make cute flags and emoji codes to make grooming, abuse, racism, ableism, and transphobia seem cool and fun, to further lead people into their trap. By definition, propaganda is "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view". All these cutesy emojis, symbols, flags, and terms are propaganda.

Discourages access to outside sources of information - radqueers constantly say that all science, psychology, and medical information is "biased" and "bigoted". If you provide them with any information on how what they're doing is wrong, they pull out any number of excuses and then tell their "friends" how bigoted and exclusionist the source is. This makes it seem like radqueers are the only reliable source of information, and anything else is untrustworthy.

Insider/outsider doctrine - this is painfully clear with how they refer to everyone who disagrees with them as "antis". Even if you're just an outside observer, you pick up on this quickly.

All/nothing, good/evil, us/them dogma - once again, they refer to anyone who differs even slightly in opinion as an "anti" or "anti in training", and the second anyone decides to question why they're literally supporting nazis and blackface, they get labeled as an "anti" and "horrible person". They play the victim any time they get told that what they're doing is wrong, while crying and complaining about how much they're harassed and about how "mean" and "rude" anti-radqueers are.

Feeling chosen or special - radqueers very obviously convince themselves that they're so unique and special, which is why terms like transship or transhasapetcat exist. They want to seem really cool and special, and make completely normal things into obscure, "special" identities, like calling yourself translivesintheuk instead of just saying you wanna move to the UK. As someone who's been in their servers, they hoard identities like this because it makes them feel temporarily special and unique, which makes them convinced that what they're doing is right.

Guilt/manipulation - radqueers do this all the time. When someone says they aren't sure if they support something or not, radqueers immediately get all teary-eyed and upset, claiming that the person would be "basically an anti" if they decided not to support it. I've even seem someone cry and complain over being rejected by an anti-transnazi radqueer and claim that it was "ableist" that the person rejected them. Everyone defended and comforted the person who was rejected, immediately siding with them for fear of being "ableist", saying that it was wrong to be against literal nazis. This is very clear manipulation and guilt-tripping.

Phobia indoctrination - phobia indoctrination is where people in the cult make others terrified of leaving for fear of being hurt, killed, etc. As I've explained earlier, radqueers try to scare people into staying by saying that if they leave the community, no one will ever support or love them, and they'll never be accepted outside of it. People who went into the radqueer community after being anti-radqueer know firsthand how awful the harassment, doxxing, and death threats from radqueers are. People in the community who have doubts are very clearly too scared to leave, and people who don't have doubts have been convinced that no one will ever love them except for radqueers.

Anyways, I hope that this clears up how the radqueer community is a cult! Feel free to add on with your own experiences or additions, and please stop invalidating and shaming survivors.

[rjtbot]

Identifying with made up/medically unrecognised illnesses does not invalidate your experience.

Identifying with made up/medically unrecognised disorders does not invalidate your experience.

Not having a diagnosis yet does not invalidate your experience.

Not ever wanting to, being abke to, or trying to get a diagnosis does not invalidate your experience.

The concept of "validity" or "invalidity" does not invalidate your experience either way around.

The DSM is already criticised as it is, so it means nothing about your experience when it still can't get things right throughout multiple rewrites. The concept of "validity" and "invalidity" doesn't help anyone other than capitalism/fascism.

Meanwhile self-diagnosed, transabled, and people alike are able to serve themselves by putting a label to their experience. Where is the problem from that? "They'll steal us REAL disabled people's resources" no they won't. You're blaming a minority group for what fascism is doing. I am cisautistic. Psychology was taken off of my disability funding despite the fact I need it, the professionals I have engaged agree that I need them, and anyone close to me would be able to say I need it. Did transabled folk do this to me? No. The corrupt system did.

It's no better than saying that xenogenders are making a mockery of the trans community, Dylan Mulvaney is giving trans girls a bad reputation, m-spec folk are making the gay/lesbian community look less legitimate, or that m-spec lesbians are the cause of violence against mono-lesbians. None of these are true. Oppressors will see you as worth less no matter who you cull from your community.

[acceptotherpeople]

OP, you realize that some people who are transID have also been diagnosed with mental health issues, right?

I'm one of them. I'm cis disabled, cis mentally ill, cis chronically ill, and also transabled -- I've wished for my illnesses to be *more* severe.

Trust me, most people who are transID truly understand how hard it is to have a disability, in part because many of us are also cis disabled.

And yeah, please don't tag your hate.

everything is boring

ugh. I wish I was a normal person. But no, I gotta be this weirdo with disorders, I fucking hate being mentally ill.

don’t understand why anyone would want this. Directed to those people who do shit like transids . Not even bothering with being nice, y’all are just straight up stupid. Do you understand ANYTHING about mental illness AT ALL? It’s not called illness / disorder for nothing. It literally makes your life hard. It makes you want it gone. You don’t fucking want that. Not even I, as a Masochist, like this.

Wake up, mental illness and disorders isn’t something ‘super aesthetic cute kawaii sugoi!’ it’s something that’ll haunt you till you find a way to cure it. It’ll make your life hell.

You don’t want that,

[radqueer-empire]

Another hate anon discussing the trauma dumping done by antis! It’s located under the cut

Anyways, I’ll say this as a victim myself, if your trauma effects you to the point you can’t let people live their own lives and instead resort to sending them unwarranted messages that give your extremely triggering life story, you are a bad person. Their issue is transharmed and transharmful folk, that’s fine, they have a lot of their own tags that those folk can block so they don’t have to see this stuff! Sending these asks that release a bunch of trauma can not just be blocked until after they’re sent. You are not morally superior for doing this and you aren’t helping yourself or other victims. If you want to do something good for yourself, block tags and get the help you need to recover, or don’t. I can’t tell you what to do but Radqueers will not baby you. There will always be people who accidentally trigger you by existing, that is not their problem. It is your responsibility to work through your trauma, not ours to shelter you. Transharm folk do nothing that is harming abuse victims ability to get help or be taken seriously and most don’t identify with these things as a “fetish” or “aesthetic”. Even if they did identify for those reasons, it’s not their job to cater their identity to make sure you’re comfortable online.

Block people, block tags, and take responsibility for your own life. Your trauma is not an excuse to lash out or disrespect others just because their identity bothers you. I will not feel bad for people who continue to put themselves in triggering situations and then cry about how those situations continue to trigger them. You are not required to interact with these folk at all, they are not hurting you, you are just hurting yourself.

If I am triggered by someone for just existing, I either remove myself from the situation or I continue to endure it while understanding it’s not the person’s fault. It takes practice and often isn’t pleasant, but it’s possible and it is the respectable thing to do.

[gothic-ouji]

Hi could I ask what being RQ personally means to you? I have no bad intentions in asking to clarify sorry if it comes off that way I'm bad with tone, I'm normally very anti-RQ but I want to hear people's experiences before anything and possibly learn something.

Ty in advance!!

Hi hi hi!! firstly nice to make your acquaintance, hope you have a nice time 🤍 you're going to get a lot of varying answers in your research and even within this post, i contain multitudes (literally) and so does the Rqc.

to me, radqueer is about freedom. it's a freedom of expression and to be whoever i want to be even if that person is not the best version of myself i could be, if i know it to be my happiest. i have always believed in being my authentic self no matter how many people think i'm simply playing pretend or refusing to face reality.

i struggle a lot with atypical dysphoria (a type of dysphoria similar to what pwBIID experience) and every other community has made me feel like shit and less-than for not having bad enough symptoms. maybe it wasn't even intentional but that's typically how i felt, and it grew into a sort of resentment and self-hatred because i was never bad enough, my pain wasn't justified or able to be proved, i didn't need the help.

i have always always wanted to be worse, even before i understood what that meant or what pain really felt like. i was one of those kids who would fantasise about being severely ill and being taken care of, ending up in the hospital, having an eventful and trauma-filled childhood.

but i'm also a paraphile and have been since before i knew what that was, and i know it wasn't caused by trauma. there aren't a lot of places online that are accepting of paras, even with my rather non-existent desire to be in contact with the subject of my para (yes, im keeping it vague intentionally).

in short, the RQ is welcoming and i am at home here. i am who i am, not an small fraction of myself or a filtered, overpurified simplification of my identity. and i wish this life for everyone, to be happy without the fear of being mocked or ridiculed.

[sophieinwonderland]

Something that occurred to us about transautism that had been brewing for a while: late diagnosis.

So like, we understand cis gender to be a matter of identifying with the gender you were assigned at birth, and trans gender to not identify that way. And we also understand that trans people are the gender they identify with right?

If we're applying that same understanding of what "trans" means, doesn't it stand to reason that "tramsautistic" would look pretty identical to late diagnosis?

Yes of course the narrative that all trans folks were born their gender and always knew is a harmful one. Gender can change unlike neuro developmental neurotypes. But that narrative is true for some trans folks. Hell it's true for a lot of trans folks.

So why wouldn't the same be true of someone who wasn't assigned autistic at a young age?

We're both trans and late diagnosed. A lot of the experiences with those identity overlap and have parallels.

We didn't "show signs" of being trans in our youth similar to how we "didn't show signs" of being autistic in our youth. We hid the things about us that others rejected and showed hostility towards because, conforming to social pressure, until we looked like a cis allistic singlet. All without ever understanding what we were doing or why, to the point where we look back and struggle to parse out those signs. There's a whole lot of gaslighting (internal and external) that happens for eggs and undiagnosed kids.

Also I can't help but notice a hint of "sex = gender" that slips into arguments against transabled IDs. Like, "you can't change your neurotype like you can change your gender" makes me wonder if that's talking about gender fluidity, or saying that trans folk are valid only because we have HRT and surgeries now. Cause in a lot of ways, you can change your neurotype if we understand neurotypes to be socially constructed like gender. You can get a diagnosis (like you can get a gender marker change). You can unmask (like you can socially transition). You can do treatments and therapy that helps (like you can do things that alleviate gender dysphoria and bring euphoria).

Anyways, I see a lot of parallels between trans in the gender sense and late diagnosis in the autistic sense. Plenty of kids were presumed to be a gender that they weren't. Plenty of kids were presumed to be a neurotype they weren't. When they seek to rectify one we call it transition and the other late diagnosis.

I know this isn't the universal story of trans gender folk or trans abled folk. But the connections between these two dots is too compelling for us not to bring it up.

-Faye

It's an interesting connection between late diagnosis and transitioning.

I don't think this is really how most transabled people use the word though.

Of course, certainly in some cases, this is going to be true where some transautistics can be cis-autistic all along but repress that.

I would say there are probably 3 general categories we could break transautism into.

The first is what you suggest, undiagnosed/late diagnosed cisautism where signs of ASD always existed but aren't recognized until later. And identifying as transautistic can supply security to someone trying to understand their identity.

The second is similar to the first, but where similar symptoms to ASD don't manifest at all until adulthood. In these cases, this might be a sign of another disorder. There's a lot of overlap between symptoms of ASD and schizophrenia for instance. So much so that ASD was at one time considered a childhood form of schizophrenia.

Then the third is what I consider the more stereotypical transautistic cases where an allistic person feels like they should be autistic for some reason, and sometimes may even feel dysphoria for not being autistic.

(This isn't mentioning trans-severity, where someone with Cis-ASD feels it should be worse.)

...

This is a bit of a side tangent, but...

To be honest, I worry a bit for people who fall into the first two categories.

There are legitimate issues with the healthcare system that would dissuade people from seeking mental help. We, ourselves, aren't seeking any treatment and don't feel it's necessary for us.

At the same time, the first step in healing a problem is recognizing it, and I do worry that identifying as having a trans-disorder may discourage someone from taking that first step of recognizing their symptoms are from an actual disorder they can seek treatment for.

This came up a while ago, with a transkleptomania anon who identified that way because they usually only felt the urge to steal things when they were stressed, and were under the false impression that cis-kleptomania required you to always have that urge.

Nothing against them, but I do have a concern that some people who consider themselves to have transdisorders may actually have those disorders and not be seeking treatment because they decided they don't have them.

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And as I say this, I realize that this sounds a lot like sysmed arguments about how endogenic spaces supposedly discourage systems from realizing they have dissociative disorders. But the difference is that, from what I've seen of endogenic spaces, that's largely not true and many systems realize they have disorders BECAUSE of these spaces. Even in the tulpamancy community, it's common for people who show symptoms of dissociative disorders to be recommended to investigate further when symptoms of a disorder are mentioned.

I guess, one concern I have with the transabled community is that I'm not seeing as much of this.

To be fair, despite being described by one anti-endo as a radqueer God, I'm not actually part of those communities and these conversations could definitely be happening where I'm not looking.

...

Sorry, I kind of derailed there.

Anyway, while I don't think it completely applies to how I tend to see transabled identities used, I do find the comparison between late diagnosis and being transgender to be a fascinating topic.

[1d10tch1ld]

This is exactly my theory but a lot of people like the demonize FD which is frustrating. I don't want to make people feel forced into the label either.

No hate to anyone tagged or anything. / No discourse in the comments (over being for/against it.) - (Demonization of FD will also be hidden.)

if your "transabled", "transnuerodivergent" or any other kind of thing like that go read about what Factitious Disorder is please for the love of god.

[everafter-life]

Is there a reason you support those who call themselves transdisabled? It is not healthy for a completely able-bodied person to desire disability whether by not wanting limbs, wanting to be mentally ill, etc. This type of phenomenon is incredibly horrifying. It does not make sense to want to support someone who believes they should be in a wheel chair, missing an arm, blind, etc. I believe this to be an extreme type of body dysmorphia which would need intensive therapy to understand the psychological desire to be disabled. To me, and many people, this is not a widely accepted school of thought.

I’d like to hear your thoughts more on how you feel as not many blogs welcome the difference of opinion on many transIDs. That, and I have no interest in hearing from a child (assuming you are in fact 20). This is something I’d assume is more common in teenagers or preteens.

Much like other times I’ve replied to anyone asking or speaking, I’m going to organize this in a way so it can be legible on what exactly I’m focusing on, since sometimes people jump everywhere and that can get confusing for me.

“This is something I’d assume is more common in teenagers or preteens.”

From what I’ve seen, there are a lot more teens/preteens who do, at least vocally, support this stuff, it’s part of the reason I’m not too active in the community as an adult because it can feel quite odd and i don’t want minors to look up to me in a weird way or anything. The thought of that makes me so uncomfortable which is why when i tend to get a wave of notifications i quickly stop posting because that makes me feel odd (Plus people who mass report without even trying to explain their opinions)

“It is not healthy for a completely able-bodied person to desire disability whether by not wanting limbs, wanting to be mentally ill, etc.”

The first thing i want to talk about here is the “completely able-bodied person” part. Now i don’t doubt that able-bodied, neurotypical, mentally sound (with no better word i can think of myself) trans-abled people do exist, i also know that there are plenty of people who, if they’re labeled or not, do desire to become disabled. There is in fact a disability all on its own connected to this (Body Integrity Identity Disorder, aka BIID) but i assume you would be devoiding those with that disorder with stuff like this since most people do (i won’t be saying my opinion on that here since that doesn’t connect to the conversation at hand)

Next, the “It is not healthy” part. Now i cannot confirm nor deny that since i’m not a psychiatrist of any degree, but i don’t think something being “unhealthy” at any level should mean to ostracize and shun those with those thoughts and actions. It would be better to be able to have there be a place where those with those thought processes can be treated nicely (that can be put to interpretation since everyone would interpret it differently, even i’m not fully sure what it would mean)

“This type of phenomenon is incredibly horrifying.”

I do greatly understand this, i mean, sometimes the thought of it does still make me get weirded out for my disabilities, but then i remember that, no one knows someone better than themself. As long as people aren’t sending themself to the hospital due to doing something unsafely and unprofessionally, i don’t see much of an issue (which is personal, i know others will believe differently but i was raised to basically let people live their life)

“I believe this to be an extreme type of body dysmorphia which would need intensive therapy to understand the psychological desire to be disabled.”

As stated previously, there is a recognized disorder that is a form of dysphoria (by the medical definition) where one believes their body and/or mind doesn’t match your mental image, it does need a lot of therapy to lessen but currently we have no cure for it.

Although other than that, I’ve talked to people, both who do and don’t identify as transabled, that say they wish they were more/less disabled because it would make it so they were believed more about their issues of any kind, or because it would make their current life a lot less hard in any regard. It might be a psychological issue or not, but if people keep treating those who do believe they should be disabled as horrid people, then they will never be able to get any help at all (that is if they even want help, since you can’t force someone to get help, it never works)

I am 100% willing to listen to others beliefs and thoughts, i find it odd when people won’t

Unless it’s like.. saying someone should die because they were born a set way, that’s something i will never listen to because i don’t think people should be killed for how they were born/something they can’t control.

I’m sorry if this looks weird, i typed it on my phone’s note app because it’s easier for me to get thoughts out in there.

[radinclus-not-radqueer]

One thing I don't notice people talking about is how inaccessible the radqueer community is. When I was radqueer, I was practically on my hands and knees begging for people to at least add plain text to posts, and I was directly refused and was told I was ableist for doing that (because apparently accessibility is ableist??). The amount of blogs that are neon on neon, have colored text in posts, have horrible formatting with italics and bold everywhere, have eyestrain as hell flags, all with no warnings or plain text or image ids anywhere - really goes to show that the radqueer community's claims to "care about disabled people" are all lies.

[shellshires]

lgbtq discourse has me on the verge of tears NO MOREEEEE PLEASE IVE HAD ENOUGH ITS BEEN 4 YEARS!!!!! CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG DAWG 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[radqueer-empire]

Our discord is not pro transmed. Just because we take time to handle conflicts and do not share our administrative decisions publicly, does not mean we support everything a member does. This server has over 100 people and only a few staff members who are not all active at the same time. We have lives and we do not get paid to work on this server. If we decide to ban someone that is our business and if we decide that there was a misunderstanding, we decide how to respond to that as well. On top of running a discord server, we run social medias, and are working on new stuff everyday.

I will admit I am a bit heated but I do not stand by any misinformation that will not only affect me, but my admins. They work hard to keep this place functioning and they are allowed to take time to make decisions. We will be increasing our moderation and opening up staff applications soon to add a few more to our team because of this.

Thank you to all of those who have been around to learn and grow with the Radqueer Empire team. We now have our cashapp ready for donations, please contact me for more information to get the link.

[proshippers-against-censorship]

This isn’t every anti and proshipper, but god damn, it sure is a good bunch from what I’ve seen…

They’re all hypocrites.

I have been in both communities. I have identified with both stances during my life.

Both sides don’t care about victims. I’m fucking sorry but you cannot sit there and claim to care about victims when you’re writing nsfw about an actual child for your RPF fic or calling nsfw of an anime girl “child porn” and seeing it as an equivalent to CSEM of real and abused children.

Both communities do harm. They encourage harmful behavior. Antis end up fostering moral OCD in people’s brains. I knew somebody who developed P-OCD from anti rhetoric. Their life is in literal shambles from that shit.

Now, this may seem out of left field but proship and radqueer are intertwined. RQ is harmful. Claiming to be shit like “transabled” or “transracial” is already hurting oppressed minorities - disabled people, people of color, and trans people. It makes trans people seem like a joke. We have people appropriating culture. We have people pretending to be disabled when they’re not, which doesn’t help people who can’t afford to get a diagnosis and end up not being taken seriously because of people like that.

And of course, neither community can claim to be anti-harassment when they both harass each other. I’ve seen a proshipper send a 14yo anti rape threats and tell them their trauma isn’t valid. I’ve seen plenty of times where antis tell proshippers to kill themselves over a dumbass ship, on TikTok unsurprisingly.

It’s no wonder both communities are seen as cess pools full of toxicity. It’s because they are.

The only people I’ve personally met that are “normal” is neutral folk and those who don’t give two shits about this discourse.

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[five-thousand-loaves-of-bread]

just another reminder that. radqueers transabled transage transid transrace etc. get fuck out of my blog

also supporters of them & people do call self cis-autistic cis-(disability) cis-(anything that isn’t gender) also get fuck out

[please no discourse abt radqueer transabled they get enough attention as is don’t give them any more positive negative attention any positive negative platform]